UT's next basketball coach - discussion/debate

[MirrOlure 14945]

The potentially realistic home run list for me would be Oats, Lloyd (kinda doubt he'd leave though), Muss (also doubt he'd leave), and Jay Wright (sounds like he's not 100% retired for good, maybe by then he'll be ready).
Extreme longshots you could at least call - Billy Donovan and Brad Stevens. I know, I know, it's dumb to even mention them but you never know if they have a hankering to get back into the college game.

I thought Billy Donovan died….oh, wait… that was Ray Liotta….sorry. Carry on.

[NoName 16614]

here is the text on the Seth Davis Athletic Article on coaching candidates

 

 

Spoiler

Texas coaching candidates: Could John Calipari, Rodney Terry be Chris Beard’s replacement?

By Seth Davis

Jan 5, 2023

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When Texas announced on April 1, 2021 that it had hired Chris Beard, it seemed to augur both high-level success and long-term stability for the program. Beard was a coaching supernova who in just six years as a Division I head coach had taken Texas Tech to the 2018 Elite Eight and the 2019 NCAA championship game, where it lost in overtime to Virginia. For that achievement, Beard was rewarded a few weeks later with a six-year contract that paid him more than $4.5 million a year on average.

 

Beard would only leave a job that lucrative for one place — Texas, where he graduated in 1995 after working as a student manager. Texas gave Beard a modest bump in salary from what he was making in Lubbock, but the school didn’t just appeal to his wallet. It appealed to his heart. As long as he kept winning at a reasonable level, it seemed he could be in Austin for a long, long time.

That time ended on Thursday when Texas fired Beard as a result of his Dec. 12 arrest for third-degree felony assault. The shocking, sudden end to this partnership has thrown the program in turmoil amidst a season that began with high hopes. One week before Beard’s arrest, the Longhorns had risen to No. 2 in the AP Top 25. They are currently sixth, although they will probably be lower next week in the wake of Tuesday’s loss at home to Kansas State. The one good thing about Friday’s announcement is that the program is no longer clouded by the uncertainty of Beard’s indefinite suspension. But that’s the only good thing that can be said about it.

When Beard was initially suspended, associate head coach Rodney Terry was assigned as his interim replacement, and the school has designated him as acting head coach for the remainder of this season. Where does Texas go from here? That’s just one more question in a season that has suddenly become full of them.

Job evaluation

There aren’t many programs that have a bigger gap between perception and performance. Ask any college basketball coach to name a list of the top jobs in America, and Texas will be right up there, what with its access to all that football money and location in the booming capital city of Austin. The Longhorns also just opened the Moody Center, a state-of-the-art, $375 million venue that has the potential to be one of the sport’s great home-court environments. The Moody Center holds 15,000 for concerts, but that capacity is reduced to about 10,000 for basketball in order to produce a more intimate, bandbox feel. That also speaks to the limited interest in basketball, because there are plenty of places around the country that can fill a 15,000-seat venue. And of course, more than 100,000 fans regularly pack Memorial Stadium to watch a Texas football program that hasn’t contended for a national championship in 13 years.

 

That, of course, speaks to the primary knock against Texas men’s basketball — namely, that it’s a “football school.” That helps explain why Texas basketball, in spite of its many assets, has so little to show for it. The Longhorns are regular participants in the NCAA Tournament, but in their history, they have only played in three Final Fours, and just one since 1947. So we’re left with a job that has a lot of upside but comes with high expectations — and not much reason to believe they can be met.

Texas’ impending move to the SEC doesn’t have many implications for basketball. At the end of the day, this is still a plum job that pays extremely well, and the school will have plenty of appealing candidates to consider.

Call list

(in alphabetical order)

John Calipari, Kentucky head coach. Calipari’s name gets tossed around for jobs a lot (mostly by people who are “close to Calipari,” and presumably at his behest), but most of the time the specter of his leaving Lexington is hardly worth considering. UCLA found that out in 2019, when it had enough substantive conversations with Calipari that he was able to leverage the school’s interest into a lifetime contract from Kentucky that pays him north of $8 million per year. In light of Kentucky’s current struggles, and the fan base’s commensurate impatience, the notion that Calipari would actually leave this time is a lot more credible. Would Texas be willing to pay him what he’s making at Kentucky, and perhaps more? Possibly. Would Calipari be willing to take a pay cut to make the move? Possibly. The timing of this is a challenge for Calipari, because he will undoubtedly be asked about it for the remainder of the season (although he has usually found conjecture about his next move to be quite useful). This remains a long shot, but it’s not nearly as long as it seemed a couple of months ago.

GO DEEPER

Is John Calipari now the Jimbo Fisher of college basketball?

Dennis Gates, Missouri head coach. Gates’ name wouldn’t have been on this list even two weeks ago, but now that he has the Tigers back in the Top 25 following blowout wins over Illinois and Kentucky, he has to merit some consideration. Whether he actually takes this job will depend mostly on whether Missouri can keep it rolling for the remainder of the season, but also on how deep Gates’ desire is to succeed Leonard Hamilton at Florida State, where Gates served as an assistant coach for eight years. Gates is in Year 1 at Missouri after taking Cleveland State to the NCAA Tournament.

 

Dennis Gates is winning big in his first season at Missouri. (Jay Biggerstaff / USA Today)

Chris Holtmann, Ohio State head coach. Holtmann is well-respected and well-paid, and if he wants to coach at Ohio State for a while, he probably can. But he is also in his sixth season in Columbus, and he has yet to take the Buckeyes to the second weekend of the NCAA Tournament. How long until the natives get restless? A move to Texas would give Holtmann a new clock and a fresh start, and it would give Texas a proven coach with a squeaky-clean reputation.

 

Royal Ivey, Brooklyn Nets assistant. Ivey is basically the beginning and the end of the list of former Longhorns with the coaching credentials to take this job. He has never been a head coach in the U.S., but he played 10 years in the NBA (few players have gotten more out of their talent), and he has spent six years as an assistant with the Thunder, Knicks and Nets. He also has served as the head coach for the South Sudan national team since 2021. It would be tough to sell the fans on a guy with such limited head coaching experience, but given Ivey’s relationship with the program, the school owes him at least the courtesy of an interview. Maybe he’ll impress them enough to take a closer look.

Eric Musselman, Arkansas head coach. Musselman is only in his fourth year in Fayetteville, yet he has already taken the Hogs to two Elite Eights and has a chance to bring them there again this season. He, too, recently signed a long-term extension that pays him more than $4 million annually. He has everything he could want at Arkansas except one thing — a big city. Musselman has coached in the NBA and spent a lot of time on the West Coast. It was an open secret last year that he would have had high interest in USC if Andy Enfield had left for Maryland. Musselman would definitely be interested in talking to Texas. If the school could make this hire, it would have the added benefit of kneecapping a future SEC rival in the process.

Nate Oats, Alabama head coach. Oats has much the same appeal as Musselman, although his teams have not had the same success in the NCAA Tournament. Oats also did an outstanding job in four years at Buffalo, during which time he took the Bulls to three NCAA Tournaments and two second-round appearances, and reached the Sweet 16 with Alabama in 2021. Not only do Oats’ teams win, but they are also highly entertaining, which is essential when it comes to drawing fans at a football school.

Kelvin Sampson, Houston head coach. If Texas is looking for a coach inside the state who is a proven winner, it won’t have to look far. Sampson has done an incredible job revitalizing a moribund program in Houston, and he has the Cougars in a position to be No. 1 in both polls come Monday morning. On the other hand, Sampson’s history of NCAA violations at Oklahoma and Indiana could be tough to overcome. And from Sampson’s standpoint, he would be leaving a job where he makes great money and has all the stability he wants. The wild card in all this is Sampson’s son, Kellen, who is his top assistant and designated successor at Houston. It’s unlikely Sampson would make this move unless Houston promises that it will hire Kellen, or Texas promises the same.

GO DEEPER

Rats, cats and the birth of a new era of Houston basketball

Rodney Terry, Texas acting head coach. Most fans are only now hearing about Terry, 54, but people in basketball circles have known about — and thought highly —  of him for a long time. Terry is a Texas native who got his first head coaching job at Somerville High School. After serving as an assistant at Baylor, UNC Wilmington and Texas (for nine years under Rick Barnes), Terry was hired in 2011 at Fresno State, where in six years he won 53.8 percent of his games. He took the UTEP job in 2018, but Beard convinced him to make the unconventional move of leaving a head job to be his associate head coach in Austin. Terry has a thoughtful, measured demeanor which should serve him well in his efforts to navigate the current turbulence. The question is, can he navigate it well enough to convince the school to make him the permanent coach?

Jay Wright, former Villanova coach. This is most likely a short conversation, but Texas has to at least make the call. By all indications, Wright is enjoying his life as a former coach turned broadcaster, and now that the games are underway he says he is missing the action even less than he thought. It would have to take an extraordinary situation to pull Wright back into the grind. There’s a very short list of jobs that would qualify, but this could be one of them.

The smart money is on …

Terry. There is lots of precedent for a coach in Terry’s situation doing well enough to be named the head coach at the end of the season. From Steve Fisher, who took over Michigan at the start of the 1989 NCAA Tournament and led the Wolverines to the national championship, to Isaac Brown, who was named interim coach at Wichita State prior to the start of the 2020-21 season after Gregg Marshall was forced out, Terry can call on many past examples to figure out ways to get hired. The best way, of course, is by winning big. Terry has one major advantage over all the other candidates in that he already has a relationship with the current players. Losing their head coach in this fashion is undoubtedly traumatic, but if the players like Terry as much as they say they do, then that should give them another cause to play for. If the Longhorns can put the pain of Beard’s departure behind them, bind together, and make a run in the NCAA Tournament, they’ll have both the gratification of their own success, and the joy of knowing they got Terry the job.

 

[Rockethorn1978 6153]

I hope it’s not terry

[Js1 85746]

12 minutes ago, chemHORN said:

We can sit here and throw out names all day long but we all know it is gonna he Royal Ivey.  

Okie dokie. 

[MoJames 8256]

1 hour ago, shadow_operative said:

chris beard's ceiling at Texas was becoming our Coach K, and possibly even supplanting Duke from their spot in the CBB hierarchy. we absolutely were set up to be successful for decades, and the architect of it all is just *poof* gone because of his psycho ass personal life. he had the world at his feet and he pissed it away over nothing. i thought i was stunned and kissed when Penders released Axtell's grades, a situation that looked like it would stunt the growth of the program, but ultimately worked out better than we probably could have hoped for. this is way beyond that. Beard just built the foundation for something very, very special, and then blew up the entire thing with a grenade launcher. un fucking believable.

You can always tell how depressed derka is based on the lack of a wall of text and decreased use of the shift button.

Hugs Derka.

[Brothahorn 10088]

1 hour ago, shadow_operative said:

chris beard's ceiling at Texas was becoming our Coach K, and possibly even supplanting Duke from their spot in the CBB hierarchy. we absolutely were set up to be successful for decades, and the architect of it all is just *poof* gone because of his psycho ass personal life. he had the world at his feet and he pissed it away over nothing. i thought i was stunned and kissed when Penders released Axtell's grades, a situation that looked like it would stunt the growth of the program, but ultimately worked out better than we probably could have hoped for. this is way beyond that. Beard just built the foundation for something very, very special, and then blew up the entire thing with a grenade launcher. un fucking believable.

[El Squared 1829]

6 hours ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Texas needs the triple B, Badass Brad Brownell 

Defense specialist? Check

Recruiting master? Kinda

Proven winner? Working on it

Shaka already stopped by here....

[El Squared 1829]

26 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I hope it’s not terry

If it is then we are a rehab school.....

40 minutes ago, chemHORN said:

We can sit here and throw out names all day long but we all know it is gonna he Royal Ivey.  

Golly, what else do you know?

[Uncle Nate 2097]

44 minutes ago, NoName said:

here is the text on the Seth Davis Athletic Article on coaching candidates

 

 

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Texas coaching candidates: Could John Calipari, Rodney Terry be Chris Beard’s replacement?

By Seth Davis

Jan 5, 2023

 

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When Texas announced on April 1, 2021 that it had hired Chris Beard, it seemed to augur both high-level success and long-term stability for the program. Beard was a coaching supernova who in just six years as a Division I head coach had taken Texas Tech to the 2018 Elite Eight and the 2019 NCAA championship game, where it lost in overtime to Virginia. For that achievement, Beard was rewarded a few weeks later with a six-year contract that paid him more than $4.5 million a year on average.

 

Beard would only leave a job that lucrative for one place — Texas, where he graduated in 1995 after working as a student manager. Texas gave Beard a modest bump in salary from what he was making in Lubbock, but the school didn’t just appeal to his wallet. It appealed to his heart. As long as he kept winning at a reasonable level, it seemed he could be in Austin for a long, long time.

That time ended on Thursday when Texas fired Beard as a result of his Dec. 12 arrest for third-degree felony assault. The shocking, sudden end to this partnership has thrown the program in turmoil amidst a season that began with high hopes. One week before Beard’s arrest, the Longhorns had risen to No. 2 in the AP Top 25. They are currently sixth, although they will probably be lower next week in the wake of Tuesday’s loss at home to Kansas State. The one good thing about Friday’s announcement is that the program is no longer clouded by the uncertainty of Beard’s indefinite suspension. But that’s the only good thing that can be said about it.

When Beard was initially suspended, associate head coach Rodney Terry was assigned as his interim replacement, and the school has designated him as acting head coach for the remainder of this season. Where does Texas go from here? That’s just one more question in a season that has suddenly become full of them.

Job evaluation

There aren’t many programs that have a bigger gap between perception and performance. Ask any college basketball coach to name a list of the top jobs in America, and Texas will be right up there, what with its access to all that football money and location in the booming capital city of Austin. The Longhorns also just opened the Moody Center, a state-of-the-art, $375 million venue that has the potential to be one of the sport’s great home-court environments. The Moody Center holds 15,000 for concerts, but that capacity is reduced to about 10,000 for basketball in order to produce a more intimate, bandbox feel. That also speaks to the limited interest in basketball, because there are plenty of places around the country that can fill a 15,000-seat venue. And of course, more than 100,000 fans regularly pack Memorial Stadium to watch a Texas football program that hasn’t contended for a national championship in 13 years.

 

That, of course, speaks to the primary knock against Texas men’s basketball — namely, that it’s a “football school.” That helps explain why Texas basketball, in spite of its many assets, has so little to show for it. The Longhorns are regular participants in the NCAA Tournament, but in their history, they have only played in three Final Fours, and just one since 1947. So we’re left with a job that has a lot of upside but comes with high expectations — and not much reason to believe they can be met.

Texas’ impending move to the SEC doesn’t have many implications for basketball. At the end of the day, this is still a plum job that pays extremely well, and the school will have plenty of appealing candidates to consider.

Call list

(in alphabetical order)

John Calipari, Kentucky head coach. Calipari’s name gets tossed around for jobs a lot (mostly by people who are “close to Calipari,” and presumably at his behest), but most of the time the specter of his leaving Lexington is hardly worth considering. UCLA found that out in 2019, when it had enough substantive conversations with Calipari that he was able to leverage the school’s interest into a lifetime contract from Kentucky that pays him north of $8 million per year. In light of Kentucky’s current struggles, and the fan base’s commensurate impatience, the notion that Calipari would actually leave this time is a lot more credible. Would Texas be willing to pay him what he’s making at Kentucky, and perhaps more? Possibly. Would Calipari be willing to take a pay cut to make the move? Possibly. The timing of this is a challenge for Calipari, because he will undoubtedly be asked about it for the remainder of the season (although he has usually found conjecture about his next move to be quite useful). This remains a long shot, but it’s not nearly as long as it seemed a couple of months ago.

GO DEEPER

Is John Calipari now the Jimbo Fisher of college basketball?

Dennis Gates, Missouri head coach. Gates’ name wouldn’t have been on this list even two weeks ago, but now that he has the Tigers back in the Top 25 following blowout wins over Illinois and Kentucky, he has to merit some consideration. Whether he actually takes this job will depend mostly on whether Missouri can keep it rolling for the remainder of the season, but also on how deep Gates’ desire is to succeed Leonard Hamilton at Florida State, where Gates served as an assistant coach for eight years. Gates is in Year 1 at Missouri after taking Cleveland State to the NCAA Tournament.

 

Dennis Gates is winning big in his first season at Missouri. (Jay Biggerstaff / USA Today)

Chris Holtmann, Ohio State head coach. Holtmann is well-respected and well-paid, and if he wants to coach at Ohio State for a while, he probably can. But he is also in his sixth season in Columbus, and he has yet to take the Buckeyes to the second weekend of the NCAA Tournament. How long until the natives get restless? A move to Texas would give Holtmann a new clock and a fresh start, and it would give Texas a proven coach with a squeaky-clean reputation.

 

Royal Ivey, Brooklyn Nets assistant. Ivey is basically the beginning and the end of the list of former Longhorns with the coaching credentials to take this job. He has never been a head coach in the U.S., but he played 10 years in the NBA (few players have gotten more out of their talent), and he has spent six years as an assistant with the Thunder, Knicks and Nets. He also has served as the head coach for the South Sudan national team since 2021. It would be tough to sell the fans on a guy with such limited head coaching experience, but given Ivey’s relationship with the program, the school owes him at least the courtesy of an interview. Maybe he’ll impress them enough to take a closer look.

Eric Musselman, Arkansas head coach. Musselman is only in his fourth year in Fayetteville, yet he has already taken the Hogs to two Elite Eights and has a chance to bring them there again this season. He, too, recently signed a long-term extension that pays him more than $4 million annually. He has everything he could want at Arkansas except one thing — a big city. Musselman has coached in the NBA and spent a lot of time on the West Coast. It was an open secret last year that he would have had high interest in USC if Andy Enfield had left for Maryland. Musselman would definitely be interested in talking to Texas. If the school could make this hire, it would have the added benefit of kneecapping a future SEC rival in the process.

Nate Oats, Alabama head coach. Oats has much the same appeal as Musselman, although his teams have not had the same success in the NCAA Tournament. Oats also did an outstanding job in four years at Buffalo, during which time he took the Bulls to three NCAA Tournaments and two second-round appearances, and reached the Sweet 16 with Alabama in 2021. Not only do Oats’ teams win, but they are also highly entertaining, which is essential when it comes to drawing fans at a football school.

Kelvin Sampson, Houston head coach. If Texas is looking for a coach inside the state who is a proven winner, it won’t have to look far. Sampson has done an incredible job revitalizing a moribund program in Houston, and he has the Cougars in a position to be No. 1 in both polls come Monday morning. On the other hand, Sampson’s history of NCAA violations at Oklahoma and Indiana could be tough to overcome. And from Sampson’s standpoint, he would be leaving a job where he makes great money and has all the stability he wants. The wild card in all this is Sampson’s son, Kellen, who is his top assistant and designated successor at Houston. It’s unlikely Sampson would make this move unless Houston promises that it will hire Kellen, or Texas promises the same.

GO DEEPER

Rats, cats and the birth of a new era of Houston basketball

Rodney Terry, Texas acting head coach. Most fans are only now hearing about Terry, 54, but people in basketball circles have known about — and thought highly —  of him for a long time. Terry is a Texas native who got his first head coaching job at Somerville High School. After serving as an assistant at Baylor, UNC Wilmington and Texas (for nine years under Rick Barnes), Terry was hired in 2011 at Fresno State, where in six years he won 53.8 percent of his games. He took the UTEP job in 2018, but Beard convinced him to make the unconventional move of leaving a head job to be his associate head coach in Austin. Terry has a thoughtful, measured demeanor which should serve him well in his efforts to navigate the current turbulence. The question is, can he navigate it well enough to convince the school to make him the permanent coach?

Jay Wright, former Villanova coach. This is most likely a short conversation, but Texas has to at least make the call. By all indications, Wright is enjoying his life as a former coach turned broadcaster, and now that the games are underway he says he is missing the action even less than he thought. It would have to take an extraordinary situation to pull Wright back into the grind. There’s a very short list of jobs that would qualify, but this could be one of them.

The smart money is on …

Terry. There is lots of precedent for a coach in Terry’s situation doing well enough to be named the head coach at the end of the season. From Steve Fisher, who took over Michigan at the start of the 1989 NCAA Tournament and led the Wolverines to the national championship, to Isaac Brown, who was named interim coach at Wichita State prior to the start of the 2020-21 season after Gregg Marshall was forced out, Terry can call on many past examples to figure out ways to get hired. The best way, of course, is by winning big. Terry has one major advantage over all the other candidates in that he already has a relationship with the current players. Losing their head coach in this fashion is undoubtedly traumatic, but if the players like Terry as much as they say they do, then that should give them another cause to play for. If the Longhorns can put the pain of Beard’s departure behind them, bind together, and make a run in the NCAA Tournament, they’ll have both the gratification of their own success, and the joy of knowing they got Terry the job.

 

 

1.  I'm surprised Jerome Tang is not listed.  Yes, I know he is in his first year at KSU, but if it's true what they say, he was a huge part of Baylor's success and so far is looking pretty damn good as the 1st year coach at KSU.

2.  I'm not surprised to see Eric Musselman on the list and if I were a UT fan I would hope he would be close to the top of CDC's short list.

[Shaggy3.0 1695]

9 minutes ago, El Squared said:

If it is then we are a rehab school.....

actually, we're a message board school.

 

[Gucci_Suit 2673]

2 minutes ago, Shaggy3.0 said:

actually, we're a message board school.

 

Username checks out. 

[Js1 85746]

3 minutes ago, Uncle Nate said:

 

1.  I'm surprised Jerome Tang is not listed.  Yes, I know he is in his first year at KSU, but if it's true what they say, he was a huge part of Baylor's success and so far is looking pretty damn good as the 1st year coach at KSU.

2.  I'm not surprised to see Eric Musselman on the list and if I were a UT fan I would hope he would be close to the top of CDC's short list.

I would like to see how Tang does in the tournament. We don’t need another regular season savant and tournament dunce. So far his resume is incomplete. 

[CurlyDumps 4549]

Jeff Goodman thinks we should go after Bruce Pearl. So crazy it just might work?

[ztejas 43741]

3 hours ago, UDontKnow said:

My pipe dream is for Texas to hire Brad Stevens and bring him back to CBB.

I'm going to start negging you fucking idiots. 

[UDontKnow 10503]

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I'm going to start negging you fucking idiots. 

Apparently your SMU education failed to teach you what the meaning of 'pipe dream' is. Here's some advice. Take a break from Surly and find a goddamn fucking dictionary before you post. You've been intolerable in the last several weeks and you need to chill the fuck out. Quit being a self-righteous dick.

[ztejas 43741]

1 minute ago, UDontKnow said:

Apparently your SMU education failed to teach you what the meaning of 'pipe dream' is. Here's some advice. Take a break from Surly and find a goddamn fucking dictionary before you post. You've been intolerable in the last several weeks and you need to chill the fuck out. Quit being a self-righteous dick.

Here's some advice. Quit bringing up Brad Stevens in the coaching search thread. 

[UDontKnow 10503]

1 minute ago, ztejas said:

Here's some advice. Quit bringing up Brad Stevens in the coaching search thread. 

Here's some advice. Learn to read. This is the thread title: 

UT's next basketball coach - discussion/debate

Lose the holier-than-thou attitude, you ain't no fucking moderator. Asshole.

[ztejas 43741]

2 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

you ain't no fucking moderator.

Neither are you fuckface. Sorry you're getting so offended that I find it amazing that Stevens continues to get brought up. My personal pipe dream is that Obama coaches the team with Jesus and John Wooden as his lead assistants. 

[UDontKnow 10503]

Just now, ztejas said:

Neither are you fuckface. Sorry you're getting so offended that I find it amazing that Stevens continues to get brought up. My personal pipe dream is that Obama coaches the team with Jesus and John Wooden as his lead assistants. 

And you know what, you're welcome to post it. I don't give a fuck. Why are you so hellbent on micromanaging other posters on this board? Are you having personal problems in your life? Get some help instead of being a keyboard warrior, douchebag.

[JesusSweatDuck 17814]

12 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Neither are you fuckface. Sorry you're getting so offended that I find it amazing that Stevens continues to get brought up. My personal pipe dream is that Obama coaches the team with Jesus and John Wooden as his lead assistants. 

I'm down, I could use a raise.

[ztejas 43741]

9 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

And you know what, you're welcome to post it.

I know that Brad Stevens isn't taking the Texas job. Why that fact is so hard for multiple people here to accept or understand I don't know. You can make all the lame personal attacks against me you want it isn't changing who the legitimate candidates for this job are. I would put coaches like Wright and Musselman in the pipe-dream category. You are bringing up someone who is in the no fucking way on God's green earth is he coaching Texas category. And it isn't even a creative suggestion as it for whatever reason has to repeatedly keep being explained why it isn't happening. 

So bring up whatever name you want - but maybe get your panties in less of a wad when the stupid ones are shot down. 

[ztejas 43741]

And I will do my part and quit bitching about it since it appears that his name is going to keep being brought up regardless. So apologies there. 

[Brothahorn 10088]

[gofuckyourself 8678]

6 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

I'm down, I could use a raise.

"He is not here; He has risen!" - CDC 24:7

[ztejas 43741]

3 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

No. Fuck you. You probably want Stevens too. 

[UDontKnow 10503]

1 minute ago, ztejas said:

I know that Brad Stevens isn't taking the Texas job. Why that fact is so hard for multiple people here to accept or understand I don't know. You can make all the lame personal attacks against me you want it isn't changing who the legitimate candidates for this job are. I would put coaches like Wright and Musselman in the pipe-dream category. You are bringing up someone who is in the no fucking way on God's green earth is he coaching Texas category. And it isn't even a creative suggestion as it for whatever reason has to repeatedly keep being explained why it isn't happening. 

So bring up whatever name you want - but maybe get your panties in less of a wad when the stupid ones are shot down. 

Nobody here truly believes that Brad Stevens will ever coach again given that he stepped away from coaching at such a young age. Part of the fun of this message board is being able to post your wildest dreams and fantasies. At the time I made my post, the thread was focusing on finding a coach young enough so that coach could stick around for 20 years or so. If one is allowed to muse (apparently you have issues with that), Brad Stevens would fit the bill as he is 46 years old and we are all well aware of his coaching prowess and acumen.  

 

Don't call someone out and then act all surprised when someone fires back at you. Sorry-not-sorry, but you're too  stupid for me to further continue this discussion.

 

[Droopy 2634]

2 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

 we absolutely were set up to be successful for decades, and the architect of it all is just *poof* gone because of his psycho ass personal life. he had the world at his feet and he pissed it away over nothing.

Undefeated. 🤬
 

 

[petscii 1190]

It seems to me that Beard won't be kicking himself.  He'll be blaming everyone else for his problems.  

There is a better coach out there.

[Rockethorn1978 6153]

5 minutes ago, petscii said:

It seems to me that Beard won't be kicking himself.  He'll be blaming everyone else for his problems.  

There is a better coach out there.

[YGIFS 19453]

and the new head coach?  You guessed it... Frank Stallone...   

Edited January 6, 2023 by YGIFS

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[Pig Bellmont 8750]

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Free version of Seth davis article:

 

https://www.on3.com/news/seth-davis-lists-john-calipari-as-potential-replacement-for-chris-beard-at-texas/?fbclid=IwAR3KEWX20_l3L_zDtiv6s-nLzzWXBPCMKeZ1324HwTWSFDMOktboMGK_l3Q&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

And maybe John Wooden comes back from the dead to be his assistant. These “it’s a long shot but more likely now” articles are garbage 

[1leggedduck 443]

Drew? Sampson? Pearl? Lot of stupid in that article.

[Red Five 41066]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Lloyd

Is this at all realistic? 

[Pam Cummings 9697]

At the gym and cant hear what they have to say about it, but "should Calipari be interested in the Texas job?" was a topic at the end of PTI.

[Js1 85746]

14 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

At the gym and cant hear what they have to say about it, but "should Calipari be interested in the Texas job?" was a topic at the end of PTI.

I mean, we wouldn’t run him out of town for not making the Final Four in 7 years or whatever since we’ve been waiting almost 20 years 

[SuckitKevin 968]

Fuck Calipari, he recruits but can’t coach for shit.

[DixonHur 11600]

36 minutes ago, Red Five said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Lloyd

Is this at all realistic? 

He'd be at the top of my list.  He's got the pedigree and has backed it up the last 2 years.

[shadow_operative 15932]

12 minutes ago, SuckitKevin said:

Fuck Calipari, he recruits but can’t coach for shit.

yeah, fuck that. Coach Cal would be a dream hire considering the position we are in. he's also a damn good coach an insane career record of 777–243 (.762). we are in zero position to be talking down on a coach of his caliber.

[shadow_operative 15932]

54 minutes ago, Red Five said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Lloyd

Is this at all realistic? 

we have way more resources than Zona and can give him a huge raise. just depends on if he has any real interest in the job or not. 

[TommysTinyTowels 787]

45 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

At the gym and cant hear what they have to say about it, but "should Calipari be interested in the Texas job?" was a topic at the end of PTI.

They said it makes no sense to them, Kentucky is a much better place to coach basketball.

They said Kentucky thoroughbred money is the same as Texas oil money….said Texas is fine, but it’s not Kentucky.

FWIW

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2646]

We are not going to hire the second sleaziest coach in all of college sports after firing beard to uphold our image.   No way    

[hobbes2702 13150]

43 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

yeah, fuck that. Coach Cal would be a dream hire considering the position we are in. he's also a damn good coach an insane career record of 777–243 (.762). we are in zero position to be talking down on a coach of his caliber.

I think I’ve made clear that I don’t want coach Cal and would prefer other candidates. 
That said you are correct. I think some of his shine has come off due to NIL but it’s not like he’s been awful.
People generally overestimate how much success the best college bball coaches actually have. They think that if it’s not 5 FFs in 10 years that the coach isn’t really elite. 

[hobbes2702 13150]

45 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

we have way more resources than Zona and can give him a huge raise. just depends on if he has any real interest in the job or not. 

His resume is short but he would be on my very short list.

[Pancho 45434]

2 minutes ago, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

We are not going to hire the second sleaziest coach in all of college sports after firing beard to uphold our image.   No way    

Now that NIL is a thing, he’s not “sleazy” anymore. He’s just a coach with a shitty offense.

I’d still be interested. 

[Brothahorn 10088]

Sometimes a change of scenery is good for both parties..see Andy Reid. Coach Cal might have a few good seasons left in him that he needs to get out in a different enviroment.

[Rickylovesweed 14832]

5 hours ago, CurlyDumps said:

Jeff Goodman thinks we should go after Bruce Pearl. So crazy it just might work?

I don't understand the appeal of these type coaches. Texas doesn't need a bagman with NIL. 

Coaches like Pearl and Calipari are the types that just buy recruits. Texas can accomplish that with NIL. Get a good coach and not a bagman because Texas can land transfers/recruits with NIL. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

26 minutes ago, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

We are not going to hire the second sleaziest coach in all of college sports after firing beard to uphold our image.   No way    

well of course he's not going to be our next coach, but he's still an elite coach who is better at what he does than whoever we do end up hiring will be. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

28 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

I think I’ve made clear that I don’t want coach Cal and would prefer other candidates. 
That said you are correct. I think some of his shine has come off due to NIL but it’s not like he’s been awful.
People generally overestimate how much success the best college bball coaches actually have. They think that if it’s not 5 FFs in 10 years that the coach isn’t really elite. 

when i went to Allen Field House last spring i was blown away by my experience, and a part of being blown away was realizing that KU had a total of four, count 'em four national championship banners. that's the entire program, a program that's got as much basketball history and as many great coaches as any program anywhere. a lot of people follow college hoops their entire lives and never realize how difficult it is to actually win it all. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

19 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I don't understand the appeal of these type coaches. Texas doesn't need a bagman with NIL. 

Coaches like Pearl and Calipari are the types that just buy recruits. Texas can accomplish that with NIL. Get a good coach and not a bagman because Texas can land transfers/recruits with NIL. 

shaka recruited at a top 5-ish national rate during his time at Texas and it never translated to anything substantive. Coach Cal has one of the winningest records of all time. just because his own standards have dropped a little in recent years doesn't mean he can't coach.