UT's next basketball coach - discussion/debate

[closetohumping 17,785]

2 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

"A message board where everyone is busy understanding without expressing their personal opinion is boring as fuck."

- SL Xpress

Lulz.  Negged 

[jimmyjazz 46,990]

On 4/7/2023 at 9:33 PM, shadow_operative said:

again, just keep changing the arguments and moving the goals posts.

Can you find another pet phrase?  This one is worn out.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Can you find another pet phrase?  This one is worn out.

i'm just describing what idig is doing. that's not a pet phrase, that's just frustrating (see: impossible) to deal with. 

[kingkoopa6 8,597]

On 3/18/2023 at 4:50 PM, jw4381 said:

Who's on the Musselman train?

Musselmsn should be fired on spot for only 36 points 

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8 hours ago, kingkoopa6 said:

Musselmsn should be fired on spot for only 36 points 

Oh boy 

[ChiTownDoc 21,326]

Porter Moser with talent would be scary good.  Would hate to lose him to UT and I’m sure you all want a big name but the dude can coach.  

[HookEm 2,495]

There is no reason to think Porter Moser would have significantly better talent at UT than OU. OU objectively has a better basketball history than we do and has plenty of money to get recruits. If he doesn’t have top end talent, it is his own fault.

[Rickylovesweed 15,309]

Why would we want a coach that's won 0 NCAA tournament games and missed the tournament all 3 years so far at OU? Maybe it's a troll? 

Edited November 29 by Rickylovesweed

[CTC2 2,858]

I don’t have any suggestions to add to this thread but whomever it is, I’m looking forward to it. 

[Hookem2147 21,958]

I got my eye on this dude. Tech tried to hire him as an assistant two years ago under McCasland and he is now at Drake. Won 4 national titles at the D2 level and has Drake 6-0 to start this season with wins over Miami, FAU and Vandy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_McCollum

[Shoxthemonkey 1,992]

On 11/29/2024 at 7:35 PM, Hookem2147 said:

I got my eye on this dude. Tech tried to hire him as an assistant two years ago under McCasland and he is now at Drake. Won 4 national titles at the D2 level and has Drake 6-0 to start this season with wins over Miami, FAU and Vandy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_McCollum

He is the coach that I wanted for the WSU job when they stupidly gave it to the interim guy and set the program back 5 years. My best friend played for NWMS in the 90's and has remained close to their teams and staffs since graduating. He has nothing but praise for McCollum. I don't imagine it would take much to convince him to leave Drake when the time comes. That is, if the Drake job doesn't kill him first.

[Blotto 23,975]

On 11/29/2024 at 11:37 AM, ChiTownDoc said:

Porter Moser with talent would be scary good.  Would hate to lose him to UT and I’m sure you all want a big name but the dude can coach.  

Nice try, sooner. Why would we hire that block-headed dildo to replace a coach that is 4-0 in h2h matchups the last two seasons?

[ChiTownDoc 21,326]

13 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Nice try, sooner. Why would we hire that block-headed dildo to replace a coach that is 4-0 in h2h matchups the last two seasons?

I mean I’m a huge fan of your HC, I’ll just leave it at that.  Thankfully Beard is a POS or there was gonna be a serious run but we are all safe, for now, with Terruh…

[Blotto 23,975]

2 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I mean I’m a huge fan of your HC, I’ll just leave it at that.  Thankfully Beard is a POS or there was gonna be a serious run but we are all safe, for now, with Terruh…

Two separate issues. Most of us realize we will need to replace Terry, but I think we want to actually get a better coach in the process. 

[ChiTownDoc 21,326]

1 hour ago, Blotto said:

Two separate issues. Most of us realize we will need to replace Terry, but I think we want to actually get a better coach in the process. 

Fair.  Still think Porter with talent is a very good coach.  

[HookEm 2,495]

Why does Porter not have talent?

[chemHORN 1,298]

There is an up an comer out there at Ole Miss named Chris Beard.  Should we give that guy a look?

[Eskimohorn 5,677]

There is an up an comer out there at Ole Miss named Chris Beard.  Should we give that guy a look?

Not without his glasses

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5 hours ago, chemHORN said:

There is an up a comer out there at Ole Miss named Chris Beard.  Should we give that guy a look?

He’s busy doing advertising stuff with warby Parker 

[Rickylovesweed 15,309]

Need to see how the season plays out but Otzelberger looks like the real deal. 

He's young too. 

[Rickylovesweed 15,309]

On 11/29/2024 at 7:35 PM, Hookem2147 said:

I got my eye on this dude. Tech tried to hire him as an assistant two years ago under McCasland and he is now at Drake. Won 4 national titles at the D2 level and has Drake 6-0 to start this season with wins over Miami, FAU and Vandy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_McCollum

McCollum looks like the truth. Drake beat Kansas State tonight and moved to 10-0 in McCollum's 1st year. 

.813 winning percentage at the D2 level with multiple national championships and now 10-0 at the D1 level. This guy just wins it looks like. He's also really young. 

[Rickylovesweed 15,309]

On 12/2/2024 at 10:34 AM, Shoxthemonkey said:

He is the coach that I wanted for the WSU job when they stupidly gave it to the interim guy and set the program back 5 years. My best friend played for NWMS in the 90's and has remained close to their teams and staffs since graduating. He has nothing but praise for McCollum. I don't imagine it would take much to convince him to leave Drake when the time comes. That is, if the Drake job doesn't kill him first.

McCollum now has wins over Vandy, Miami, and K-State this year with a roster he primarily recruited out of the portal from his D2 team. 

He's beating power conference teams with a D2 roster. He won't be at Drake longer than a year. It's already pretty obvious he's a good coach. 

[Dbeasy 15,529]

It’s so wonderful to wake up this morning and realize that Texas’ three previous coaches are all ranked, including number 1, and Texas isn’t. And they’ve lost to unranked teams.  Sigh. 

Edited 9 hours ago by Dbeasy

[Pancho 46,082]

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

It’s so wonderful to wake up this morning and realize that Texas’ three previous coaches are all ranked, including number 1, and Texas isn’t. And they’ve lost to unranked teams.  Sigh. 

But hey, we can scream “we’re Texas!” and those schools can’t.

 

[HookEm 2,495]

6 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

McCollum now has wins over Vandy, Miami, and K-State this year with a roster he primarily recruited out of the portal from his D2 team. 

He's beating power conference teams with a D2 roster. He won't be at Drake longer than a year. It's already pretty obvious he's a good coach. 

In his last 8 years at NW Missouri St he was 253-21 (0.923) with four National Titles (and would have been a 5th if Covid didn't cancel 2020).  Is that good?  Seems good.

[Red Five 41,609]

2 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

It’s so wonderful to wake up this morning and realize that Texas’ three previous coaches are all ranked, including number 1, and Texas isn’t. And they’ve lost to unranked teams.  Sigh. 

Wonder if that has ever happened before. Three coaches ditched by the same school (yeah Shaka wasn't technically fired) all ranked at the same time. 

[jimmyjazz 46,990]

I'd say Beard ditched us.

[Pancho 46,082]

No, Texas ditched him. 

didn’t realize Mississippi was 17th in the poll….jesus. 

[Red Five 41,609]

Three ex-coaches in the top 17 is really something. And us in "others receiving votes". I'm not crying, you're crying. 

[Rockethorn1978 6,203]

Yea but Terry is such a great guy, stand up fella, a guy all our kids should look up too. yayyyy.

 

[idigTexas 2,325]

I don't understand why we moved on from all those coaches who were underachieving or getting arrested here.  

[Js1 86,996]

6 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

I don't understand why we moved on from all those coaches who were underachieving or getting arrested here.  

Yeah, awesome for them doing well at their new schools, but just a reminder

Rick Barnes failed to advance to the 2nd weekend for 7 straight seasons after the 2008 Elite 8 and only had two top 3 regular season finishes in the Big 12 in those 7 years.  And missed the NCAAT one of those years
Shaka Smart failed to win a single NCAA tournament game in his 6 seasons, missing the tournament twice (and maybe a third time if COVID didn't cancel the tournament) with two top-3 regular season finishes in the Big 12
Chris Beard couldn't keep his hands to himself one fateful night and was entirely unremorseful and defiant and forced CDC's hand 

[Pancho 46,082]

Maybe we’re the problem?

 

[Texas Wahoo 3,627]

6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Maybe we’re the problem?

 

The Shaka thing is the only one that is weird to me.  He had success before here and after here, but was pretty terrible here.  Although a lot of that was losing in the tournament, which can be a bit random.

Rick Barnes - It's really hard to maintain a really high level of success over a long period of time, and I think Barnes at Texas had gotten a bit stale.  Plus, there were some bad losses in the tournament that likely doomed him.  He also has not exactly been tearing it up in the tournament except for last year:

Beard - I mean, I'm pretty sure that one did not have much to do with the Texas job.  He was likely going to have success here, but after the arrest and the statements by his attorney, Texas did not have much of a choice but to fire him.

[HookEm 2,495]

In the last 17 years, Rick Barnes and Rodney Terry have been to exactly the same number of Elite Eights.  In the last 5 seasons, Chris Beard has won a grand total of TWO tournament games.  Shaka Smart has made it past the first round in the tournament exactly one time in the last 14 years.

Yes, these coaches are ranked highly right now, but lets see the season play out before we cry too hard.

 

 

[HookEm 2,495]

I always felt like Shaka was close to turning the corner at Texas, but he just never could do it. Every year it seemed like we had 4-6 VERY close losses that could have changed the whole season with a win.

2016 should have been a good year.  Isaiah Taylor, Jevan Felix, Roach, Ridley, Ibeh, etc.  Lost a few close ones that could have moved us up to a 4-5 seed. Instead we are a 6 seed and lost to Northern Iowa.  Fail.

2017 was a shit show. Finished the regular season losing 7 in a row and 14 of the last 17.  Fail.

2019 had wins over #7 UNC, #9 Purdue, #15 ISU, #17 KU. And then put it together to win the NIT. (Big whoop). They also had TEN losses by 6 points or less. Just win half of those and we would have been a medium NCAA seed.  Fail.

The 2021 team was really good.  We were 19-8, but again 6 of those losses were by a combined 11 points. That team was full of NBA talent in Sims, Kai Jones, Greg Brown. We had a great senior PG in Matt Coleman. And Jones / Ramey were solid.  That team should have been a S16 or E8 team.  Nope. Stepped on our dick vs. shitty ACU.  Fail.  

[Herpa Derpa 6,326]

Shaka coached with fear while at Texas.

[Js1 86,996]

Thanks, needed a reminder of the ACU debacle. Had food poisoning the night before and still felt like blowing chunks watching that 

[Rickylovesweed 15,309]

33 minutes ago, HookEm said:

 In the last 17 years, Rick Barnes and Rodney Terry have been to exactly the same number of Elite Eights.  In the last 5 seasons, Chris Beard has won a grand total of TWO tournament games.  Shaka Smart has made it past the first round in the tournament exactly one time in the last 14 years.

Yes, these coaches are ranked highly right now, but lets see the season play out before we cry too hard.

 

 

Yeah, this is pretty much it. Barnes and Shaka were fired because they couldn’t win when it mattered. Still been the same issue.

[HookEm 2,495]

My dad's birthday was yesterday. He was telling me about how his granddad died on his birthday when he was 7.  

I was like... cool story.  Texas basketball died on my birthday, December 12 two years ago.