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17 hours ago, Blotto said:

I've always thought that the reason Beard was fired wasn't so much about what he did but moreso about the chances of him doing it again. If they didn't think he was willing to make the life choices necessary to avoid being in the same scenario, than it wasn't worth the risk to bring him back. Not sure anything has changed on that front. 

The $9.95ers have alluded to it being his behavior after the fact that led to him being fired. Strident, defiant, refusing to cooperate or show contrition. He couldn't even be bothered to pretend he was sorry for the shitshow of a mess he made.

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53 minutes ago, Patron said:

Are you trying to throw us off the trail?

No.  I’d eat a shoe if TJ left for Texas.  Your job opening up this spring doesn’t concern me.

I’m also a Drake alum, and have been very impressed with what McCollum has done thus far.  He’s not staying at a mid major long, and what I really don’t want is Iowa to hire him.  I’d much rather he go out of the Midwest.

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On 1/9/2025 at 10:18 PM, HookEm said:

Out of all the coaches we could hire, bitch ass Beard is just about at the bottom of my list.

Amazing to me that anyone would react "F you" to this post.  Tells me that you, like Beard, are also probably a scumbag.

 

On 1/13/2025 at 7:57 AM, MotownHorn said:

I give him 5 years, tops, before he self-destructs again

Anyone who thinks that the night of his arrest was the first and only dust up that Beard has had with a female is a moron.  I guess you think he was just unlucky.  His reaction after the fact, with zero contrition, shows that he doesn't have the self awareness needed to coach somewhere like UT. 

This is not a man of high character. Period. The fact that he left UNLV 19 days into his tenure, just days after signing a 5 year contract, should have been a clue. I can't recall another time when a coach has done that. 

Any current UT supporters of Beard come across as desperate and pathetic.  We can do better.

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4 minutes ago, HookEm said:

Anyone who thinks that the night of his arrest was the first and only dust up that Beard has had with a female is a moron. 

Oh definitely not. But Lubbock and Oxford police would likely brush it under the rug. The spotlight is bigger in Austin

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12 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Oh definitely not. But Lubbock and Oxford police would likely brush it under the rug. The spotlight is bigger in Austin

LOLz.  Sergio Kindle would like a word.  Maybe call Art Acevedo and discuss accountability.

 

and no, I'm not gonna remotely defend LBK police, but come the fuck on.  

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3 hours ago, Patron said:

Yeah, I don't think Texas has a chance with Otzelberger. I'm just hanking your chain.

But I do honestly/earnestly think McCollum could really succeed with high major resources.  He's been a Midwest lifer at this stage, but the guy has an eye for talent and can get a roster to work well together.  I don't know if UT fans feel like a good year in the MVC after a DII run is enough of a track record, but I think he'd do well in Austin.

Plus (and this is my chief motivator if I'm being honest) it keeps him out of Iowa City or Manhattan or Lincoln or Minneapolis or some place where he'd be recruiting against us with some actual resources.

If Otz actually did leave, he would be at the top of my preferred replacement list (after making a run at DeVries of course).

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18 hours ago, Iceman said:

LOLz.  Sergio Kindle would like a word.  Maybe call Art Acevedo and discuss accountability.

 

and no, I'm not gonna remotely defend LBK police, but come the fuck on.  

Wtf is the point of this post? Beard didn't get away with the same things in Austin that he got away with in Lubbock. "What about Sergio Kindle, what about Art Acevedo" what about them? Because they're doing so awesomely these days right?

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21 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Wtf is the point of this post? Beard didn't get away with the same things in Austin that he got away with in Lubbock. "What about Sergio Kindle, what about Art Acevedo" what about them? Because they're doing so awesomely these days right?

Art Acevedo hasn't been the APD Chief since 2016
Sergio Kindle was 15 years ago

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1 hour ago, Pam Cummings said:

Wtf is the point of this post? Beard didn't get away with the same things in Austin that he got away with in Lubbock. "What about Sergio Kindle, what about Art Acevedo" what about them? Because they're doing so awesomely these days right?

The point is there is no higher degree of accountability in Austin PD.  High horse trip is trippy. 
 

‘pure as the wind-driven snow’ is just funny. 

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4 minutes ago, txexlonghorn23 said:

Who do y'all think are out the top 3 candidates for next head coach of Texas Men's Basketball as of now?

 

Ben McCollum is definitely top 3, especially if he does well in the tournament.

With CDC running the show, everyone and anyone. 

No one had Mike White, Vic Schaefer, Bob Bowman, Laura Ianello, etc. in their top candidate list when CDC pulled them from their current schools, where they were super successful P5 head coaches with big postseason success - White went to 5 WCWS at Oregon (and they haven't been back since), Schaefer had 2 NCAA tournament finals appearance at freaking Miss St (and their only Final Fours ever), Ianello won a title in 2018, Bowman was just coming off a title at ASU....

The only "obvious" one was Schloss, because of their relationship, and he was coming off a runner-up finish and a set up for a #1 ranked roster in 2025.

So I totally believe the next guy up for MBB is going to be someone we don't fully expect and it will be a great hire with skins on the wall. 

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

With CDC running the show, everyone and anyone. 

No one had Mike White, Vic Schaefer, Bob Bowman, Laura Ianello, etc. in their top candidate list when CDC pulled them from their current schools, where they were super successful P5 head coaches with big postseason success - White went to 5 WCWS at Oregon (and they haven't been back since), Schaefer had 2 NCAA tournament finals appearance at freaking Miss St (and their only Final Fours ever), Ianello won a title in 2018, Bowman was just coming off a title at ASU....

The only "obvious" one was Schloss, because of their relationship, and he was coming off a runner-up finish and a set up for a #1 ranked roster in 2025.

So I totally believe the next guy up for MBB is going to be someone we don't fully expect and it will be a great hire with skins on the wall. 

Schloss may have been the most obvious but I thought he was the least likely.  I think CDC could pull almost anyone, maybe even Jay Wright

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10 minutes ago, UnhappilyMarried said:

~$30m. Just signed an extension with mega buyout 

Better check those numbers. He makes only $3M a year, which is less than RT's salary, I think. Is the buyout amount the money the university would owe him if they were to fire him or is it what a school has to pay to hire him away? At any rate, I think it was $18M as of las july.

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10 hours ago, MuellerHorn said:

Came here to say the same thing. I would love it to be Otzelberger. He’s a Midwest guy and his wife is ISU lore though, so who knows. 

It's not just that she's ISU lore - Central Iowa is literally her adopted home.  She's an Australian native who came here knowing no one and remains close to her host family.  His family is in Milwaukee on top of that.  His HS recruiting is almost exclusively based out of Milwaukee, Chicago, Minneapolis, and Kansas City, and even a large chunk of his portal targets are Midwest natives looking to get closer to home.

Obviously Texas has way more money than ISU, and more in-state talent, but I just have a hard time seeing him leaving period at this point, especially for a job where basketball takes such a back seat in a part of the country he doesn't have many/any HS recruiting connections, so far away from both he and his wife's respective homes.

It's a lot different situation than Hoiberg.  Hoiberg and his wife both grew up in Ames and they felt smothered by the hometown hero/everyone knows their family/knows their business type of thing that can accompany life in a provincial smaller college town.  Hoiberg ultimately felt trapped by his legacy as The Mayor and wanted out of the fishbowl.  Otz and his wife both chose this place to put their roots down and build their life.  This is his third stint at ISU (twice as an assistant).  He's extremely invested here.

Doesn't mean he'd never leave, but I just don't see a job like Texas being the one he'd leave for.  Not that Texas isn't/can't be a great job, it just doesn't seem like a good fit for him.  Frankly, I'd be more concerned about Wisconsin than Texas.

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2 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

It's not just that she's ISU lore - Central Iowa is literally her adopted home.  She's an Australian native who came here knowing no one and remains close to her host family.  His family is in Milwaukee on top of that.  His HS recruiting is almost exclusively based out of Milwaukee, Chicago, Minneapolis, and Kansas City, and even a large chunk of his portal targets are Midwest natives looking to get closer to home.

Obviously Texas has way more money than ISU, and more in-state talent, but I just have a hard time seeing him leaving period at this point, especially for a job where basketball takes such a back seat in a part of the country he doesn't have many/any HS recruiting connections, so far away from both he and his wife's respective homes.

It's a lot different situation than Hoiberg.  Hoiberg and his wife both grew up in Ames and they felt smothered by the hometown hero/everyone knows their family/knows their business type of thing that can accompany life in a provincial smaller college town.  Hoiberg ultimately felt trapped by his legacy as The Mayor and wanted out of the fishbowl.  Otz and his wife both chose this place to put their roots down and build their life.  This is his third stint at ISU (twice as an assistant).  He's extremely invested here.

Doesn't mean he'd never leave, but I just don't see a job like Texas being the one he'd leave for.  Not that Texas isn't/can't be a great job, it just doesn't seem like a good fit for him.  Frankly, I'd be more concerned about Wisconsin than Texas.

CDC is a magician when it comes to hiring coaches away from other programs. You have some good points but I don't think any of those are insurmountable barriers to hiring him. It's not like you're asking him to leave south of France for College Station. 

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3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

i'll stir the pot, two close L's vs ranked teams, one blow out and one W. not horrible but not the best. if it was your new coach with that early conf would you be calling for his head ?

next there game are huge, need some W's 

I don't see this ending well for RT but yes, two close losses to top 5 teams does not get someone fired.

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