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You played at Pitt?

No. I played with him at the 5-star camp at Pitt. He was youngest at the camp, all invitees were going into senior year. He was going into freshman year.
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I’m hyping myself up for Sean Miller but hoping for TJ. 
 

I know CDC is a wizard at coaching hires but none of the big names are really available (or they are at basketball school jobs).

I do have a 3rd theory that I’ve mentioned before as to why Texas will never go big in paying for basketball (coaches, NIL, etc) which is what Gerry is saying would take to get a Oats or Lloyd.

 

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Miller would be fine with the current state of the program/cbb as a whole but the biggest negative is his age. Too young to be a 5-7 year stop gap and will be good enough to make an E8 in year 2 and not get fired until he's in his mid 60s. 

Also our fans will always know him as the guy who lost to RT forced us to hire him in the first place. 

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I think people seem to think we can recreate the Kevin Young experience - former player, no NCAA coaching experience, but has NBA coaching experience + big NIL budget

It’s probably a risk CDC won’t take 

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

I’m hyping myself up for Sean Miller but hoping for TJ. 
 

I know CDC is a wizard at coaching hires but none of the big names are really available (or they are at basketball school jobs).

I do have a 3rd theory that I’ve mentioned before as to why Texas will never go big in paying for basketball (coaches, NIL, etc) which is what Gerry is saying would take to get a Oats or Lloyd.

 

What’s your theory

14 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Is Ivey not considered a serious candidate this time?

Is Kyle Shanahan a serious candidate for football openings?

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13 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I would imagine that CDC would want someone who has coached college basketball before. 

I get HC experience, the lack of college experience doesn't seem to be as big of a deal to me as long as he has experienced college assistants with him.

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Just now, Machinator said:

I wouldn't mind Ivey this time around, but he doesn't seem to fit the CDC archetype.

Hasn’t built a program

Has no NCAA postseason experience

Basically misses the 2 biggest boxes of CDC’s checklist 

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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Hasn’t built a program

Has no NCAA postseason experience

Basically misses the 2 biggest boxes of CDC’s checklist 

This.  I view Ivey similarly to Terry.  If he wasn't a graduate/ex player of Texas would he even be in the discussion given his resume?

He seems like a very solid individual.  he may be a great HC someday.  if he really wants college he should go to a lower level HC job and if successful he'd be hired by a bigger program pretty quickly.

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4 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

This.  I view Ivey similarly to Terry.  If he wasn't a graduate/ex player of Texas would he even be in the discussion given his resume?

Yeah, absolutely not.

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The other part about Ivey is I think he has more upside going the NBA coaching route. He’s well known as an up and coming coach within the NBA circles. 

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Not sure if @Al_4_ISU has any insight, but streets are saying that McCaffery *could* retire this year. If that happens, Iowa’s top targets would be Devries at WVU (who coached at Drake and played at UNI) and this boards wonder boy McCollum, the current Drake HC.

 

I really like what Devries has done at West Virginia. 

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5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Gerry has said RT NIL budget was 3.5ish million for this roster

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I understand Gerry’s position of being from Missouri as it pertains to Texas taking basketball seriously. That’s a legitimate position. 

That said, there are multiple reasons why Texas will take basketball very seriously with the right hire. It needs to be someone who energizes everyone - the admin, the fans and the money, as Beard was doing.

The admin needs and wants men’s basketball to be top ten like every other sport besides women’s soccer. It’s a money sport. It’s high visibility and impacts the school’s brand. 

The money guys want to back a winner. They spared nothing for Beard. They’re not going to let a couple million dollars be the gap that prevents title contention. Know-nothings will now point to the Toppin “recruitment” as evidence otherwise. I’m too bored with that canard to do anything but be dismissive. 

The fans were coming when Beard was at Texas. They show up for WBB. They’ll show up for a men’s program that isn’t boring generally and just putrid, at times, to watch. 

5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Again, I don’t think the ceiling is $4.5M if there is a “right guy” that Del Conte hones in on. 

3 hours ago, Js1 said:

This. They had nothing on the RB coach search either 

CDC will vet a candidate with a couple of the guys if he thinks they have a real insight to offer. Sarkisian doesn’t really ever seek non-peer or mentor counsel when it comes to staff. 

22 minutes ago, Pancho said:

The other part about Ivey is I think he has more upside going the NBA coaching route. He’s well known as an up and coming coach within the NBA circles. 

We can all think what we want about Ivey’s NBA coaching prospects, but he’s made it known he’d be very interested in the Texas coaching job. I do agree with everyone who says he fails to check key hiring boxes for CDC. 

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2 hours ago, Js1 said:

I think people seem to think we can recreate the Kevin Young experience - former player, no NCAA coaching experience, but has NBA coaching experience + big NIL budget

It’s probably a risk CDC won’t take 

CDC isn’t a risk taker because he doesn’t have to be.  Let the techs and Baylor’s of the world be the proving grounds.  

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28 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Not sure if @Al_4_ISU has any insight, but streets are saying that McCaffery *could* retire this year. If that happens, Iowa’s top targets would be Devries at WVU (who coached at Drake and played at UNI) and this boards wonder boy McCollum, the current Drake HC.

 

I really like what Devries has done at West Virginia. 

DeVries younger brother is Hawkeye royalty.  I’m not sure Iowa is a step up from WVU in hoops though.

McCollum is a savant.  We’re actually going to the Drake/Northern Iowa game today.  My wife is a UNI alum/former athlete and I went to grad school at Drake

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19 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

This Rick Barnes guy seems to be doing good things at Tennessee. Maybe we should give him a call

I hope someone makes this joke a 10th time in this thread

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While Ivey is still an unconventional and arguably underqualified candidate for what many are hoping for, he's clearly a better candidate than he was a few years ago when he was discussed, between the S Sudan Olympics job and working as Ime's #2 assistant while not being under his besty KD's influence 

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I don't get Sean Miller. Missed the tourney his last 3 years at Arizona and on track to miss it the last two at Xavier. Pass.

Brad Brownell has made the tourney 4 times in 15 years at Clemson. Yeah he's on a nice two year run right now but that's the exception, not the rule with him.

Lloyd has done well, I'd like that hire. Texas might not be a step up for him though.

Mccollum doesn't seem to fit CDC's profile of someone who has done well in P4. He only has one year in D1 at all. But he's an interesting up and comer. High risk/reward I guess.

Did I miss something where TJ Otz's buyout isn't an issue? I thought people said it was like $18 mil or something. 

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8 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Did I miss something where TJ Otz's buyout isn't an issue? I thought people said it was like $18 mil or something. 

Frequently people conflate the buyout to be paid if fired with the buyout to get hired away. You'd think he'd have enough leverage to not have that large of a buyout for leaving 

It's possible that number is accurate, but it's also plausible that a reporter mixed the two buyouts up and that number spread to other reports 

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7 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Gerry has said RT NIL budget was 3.5ish million for this roster

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gerry might want to learn how to spell nate oats if he’s going to write so much about him.

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28 minutes ago, Fud said:

While Ivey is still an unconventional and arguably underqualified candidate for what many are hoping for, he's clearly a better candidate than he was a few years ago when he was discussed, between the S Sudan Olympics job and working as Ime's #2 assistant while not being under his besty KD's influence 

He can be a better candidate than he was years ago and still not be a good enough candidate today.

The question to ask is: Is this the guy to make UT a bona fide basketball school as part of being a bona fide everything school?  If yes, why?

I don't know what Ivey's got to answer that with.

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2 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

He can be a better candidate than he was years ago and still not be a good enough candidate today.

The question to ask is: Is this the guy to make UT a bona fide basketball school as part of being a bona fide everything school?  If yes, why?

I don't know what Ivey's got to answer that with.

If Ivey is hell bent on the job, he needs to take a college job first to show he can recruit first 

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2 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

He can be a better candidate than he was years ago and still not be a good enough candidate today.

The question to ask is: Is this the guy to make UT a bona fide basketball school as part of being a bona fide everything school?  If yes, why?

I don't know what Ivey's got to answer that with.

Who is the attainable coach who'd "make UT a bona fid basketball school as part of being a bona fide everything school" 

The obvious names seem unlikely to be attainable 

It seems like it'll be leaps of faith of mid-major types, and Ivey becomes less of a ridiculous option against those types 

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The analogue you'd point to with Ivey is Kevin Young, although I think Ivey is probably a couple of years away from where Young was (lead assistant and getting discussed as someone who could get upcoming NBA head coaching jobs)

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2 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

I hope someone makes this joke a 10th time in this thread

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This Rick Barnes guy seems to be doing good things at Tennessee. Maybe we should give him a call

 

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I’m having a hard time understanding how Arizona is a better overall job than Texas in the current state of the sport.

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29 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Isnt Oats a bigger piece of shit than Beard?

I thought Golden at Florida was a bigger piece of shit.

We need a score card or program to keep track.

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3 minutes ago, NBHorn7 said:

I thought Golden at Florida was a bigger piece of shit.

We need a score card or program to keep track.

You’ve got the pervs, the verbal abusers, the physical abusers, the cheaters, the boozers and the slimeballs

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1 hour ago, Fud said:

Who is the attainable coach who'd "make UT a bona fid basketball school as part of being a bona fide everything school" 

The obvious names seem unlikely to be attainable 

It seems like it'll be leaps of faith of mid-major types, and Ivey becomes less of a ridiculous option against those types 

Spoiler

Scott Drew

 

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27 minutes ago, MrX said:

I’m having a hard time understanding how Arizona is a better overall job than Texas in the current state of the sport.

Why are you having a hard time with this?

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Arizona football and WBB sucks. Lloyd pretty much is the best game in town in Tucson. Money-wise, Texas can probably beat it, with their financial troubles, or at least provide a better contract and stability. 

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8 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Surly covers all those demographics too 

Along with these: 

rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists.

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51 minutes ago, MrX said:

I’m having a hard time understanding how Arizona is a better overall job than Texas in the current state of the sport.

Basketball school with a rabid fan base that leads their league in attendance as opposed to school where basketball isn’t even the second most popular sport on campus?

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20 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Arizona football and WBB sucks. Lloyd pretty much is the best game in town in Tucson. Money-wise, Texas can probably beat it, with their financial troubles, or at least provide a better contract and stability. 

WBB is sitting on a streak of 4 straight tournament appearances and lost in the in the championship game in 2021. Not exactly suckage.

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