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There is a screenshot floating around from Trilly Donovan's Discord (still not sure if this dude is to be trusted or not but he seems to be more right than wrong) that KD is really trying to push for Royal Ivey.

Wasn't there a conversation on here a month or two back about a lot of former players being in his corner and saying they are willing to provide $upport if he is hired?

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44 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I get this thought but I really think it all hinged on that elite eight "run".  My sense is CDC really didn't have the right guy on the hook but would have pressed if we bow out in the first or second round. And everyone that mattered liked RT and wanted to give him a chance.   The contract of 3M a year said it all though, as it was probably the lowest you could go and not look like it was a buyout waiting to happen.  I fully admit I am rationalizing hoping that CDC really didn't WANT to hire Terry.

I'm on the periphery of folks that are in the know and I have already heard the spend less on the coach and more on NIL since you have to reload every year anyway(and also add Toppin would have made a huge difference....right). I want to slap my forehead because that is the exact opposite of the situation.  you need a guy who can coach balls out, whip guys in to shape, and has a real implementation plan because he's going to be dealing with a new team every year(maybe 2). 

It is more like the NBA than it has ever been.  Having a system and ability to integrate players into that system is going to be the most valuable commodity.  ISO is not a system, IMO.

 

32 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

I agree.  I thought getting to the sweet sixteen got him the job.   As in once he got there it was over

I didn’t mean to imply anything more than cosmic shit with how it worked out with Terry. There were some really deflated supporters when Beard fucked it all up. I don’t know how much folks were ready to immediately pour into the next guy. 

8 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

There is a screenshot floating around from Trilly Donovan's Discord (still not sure if this dude is to be trusted or not but he seems to be more right than wrong) that KD is really trying to push for Royal Ivey.

Wasn't there a conversation on here a month or two back about a lot of former players being in his corner and saying they are willing to provide $upport if he is hired?

TJ Ford has been rallying former players and pleading the case for Ivey for years now. The guy gave me the pitch at one point so I have heard it with my own ears. If Durant is doing anything along those lines, it’s derivative. I’m assuming someone in the discord is just passing the story off and getting names wrong. 

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if the program is going to be profitable then the one place you spend big is on the HC. you don’t hire a lesser and/or unproven guy and then financially support him with money for a whole new roster every year, you back up the brinks truck for a proven commodity who portends to be winning at a high level at Texas for 1-2 decades if not more. you don’t win in cbb with NIL money, you win with bill self, dan hurley, billy donovan, jay wright, or coach k as your HC.

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16 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

There is a screenshot floating around from Trilly Donovan's Discord (still not sure if this dude is to be trusted or not but he seems to be more right than wrong) that KD is really trying to push for Royal Ivey.

Wasn't there a conversation on here a month or two back about a lot of former players being in his corner and saying they are willing to provide $upport if he is hired?

CTJ addressed it but yeah. That ship has sailed though.

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10 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Or KD….you can stop pushing Royal and do something similar to what Steph is going to do with Davidson. 

YES. NIL ambassador / assistant GM type of deal. His mini-me plays for Vic already 

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1 minute ago, ClubWhatever said:

My basketball soul is so crumpled up by the RT era that I would gladly take Royal Ivey.  It can't possibly result in worse basketball, can it?

I almost don't care.  If these are "the good old days", then shoot me.

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41 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

There is a screenshot floating around from Trilly Donovan's Discord (still not sure if this dude is to be trusted or not but he seems to be more right than wrong) that KD is really trying to push for Royal Ivey.

Wasn't there a conversation on here a month or two back about a lot of former players being in his corner and saying they are willing to provide $upport if he is hired?

KD has a poor track record of picking coaches. 

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1 hour ago, Sal said:

Can Duane Akina coach basketball

I bet the defense would improve and Texas would primarily be using a man-to-man technique.

He was a quarterback in college at Washington, he might know something about offense and play calling.

He loves to recruit and still very spunky for his age. 

I have never seen him wearing glasses either, except for some cool shades, doubt he would wear those indoors.

I think he would love the challenge.

Posted
2 hours ago, ztejas said:

I'd be okay with Few.

mainly just bustin' your balls.  honestly I wouldn't be crazy jazzed with Few mainly because it COULD be perceived as a little bit like a late era money grab(even though he obviously isn't driven by money) but the guy can still coach and has an eye for talent(Moar shooters please!) IMO.

He's already done the HCIW apparently so he's either done or he's just willing to let another guy have a shot.  that kind of thing isn't really a great sign.

He'd be the splash hire though.

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2 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

My basketball soul is so crumpled up by the RT era that I would gladly take Royal Ivey.  It can't possibly result in worse basketball, can it?

This is way more Beard's and CDC's fault.  I don't blame RT in the least.  Even though we knew how it would likely end we offered him the contract.  Good on RT.  I never felt he didn't do everything but the best he could and no stupid platitude shit.  Take that University money, you earned it.

As they say, timing is everything.

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3 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

My basketball soul is so crumpled up by the RT era that I would gladly take Royal Ivey.  It can't possibly result in worse basketball, can it?

At least we’d play defense.  I’d feel good about rooting for an alum like Ivey too.

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27 minutes ago, South Austin said:

*less

No I wouldn't be okay with less. I think a change is needed. 

30 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

mainly just bustin' your balls.  honestly I wouldn't be crazy jazzed with Few mainly because it COULD be perceived as a little bit like a late era money grab(even though he obviously isn't driven by money) but the guy can still coach and has an eye for talent(Moar shooters please!) IMO.

He's already done the HCIW apparently so he's either done or he's just willing to let another guy have a shot.  that kind of thing isn't really a great sign.

He'd be the splash hire though.

I know. Just clarifying my position. Few would be a good hire I would just have a couple reservations. Same if we hired Self, honestly. But I don't see that happening.

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2 hours ago, NBHorn7 said:

I bet the defense would improve and Texas would primarily be using a man-to-man technique.

He was a quarterback in college at Washington, he might know something about offense and play calling.

He loves to recruit and still very spunky for his age. 

I have never seen him wearing glasses either, except for some cool shades, doubt he would wear those indoors.

I think he would love the challenge.

We could call it havoc!!!!

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5 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

The name I heard two months ago, from a very circuitous route, which we would all be quite happy with, fits Gerry’s criteria. Now I’m getting interested. 

I think you greatly exaggerate this board's ability to agree on anything.

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2 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

Maybe we could reassign RT to be equipment manager for football.

Did you see those ugly polos he picked out to start the season? No thanks 

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I do think the conference pitch now means something. When the last realignment carousel stopped everyone thought the Big 12 would be a total buzzsaw and the best league. But that’s not the case.

Is this where I go “SEC! SEC!”?

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7 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

There is a screenshot floating around from Trilly Donovan's Discord (still not sure if this dude is to be trusted or not but he seems to be more right than wrong) that KD is really trying to push for Royal Ivey.

Wasn't there a conversation on here a month or two back about a lot of former players being in his corner and saying they are willing to provide $upport if he is hired?

NBA assistant >> college HC is getting big. I guess it’s more attractive now that recruiting has been simplified to managing a payroll

Former players vs donors has way more comedic potential as a bmd dynamic than Dallas vs Houston

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I'll throw something else out there. What if the plane never came back to ground but instead kept climbing, to the point it left earth's atmosphere? I know that a space shuttle has insane amounts of thrust/force/speed to get off the ground and into space, but could a plane, already traveling at 40,000 feet doing 500+mph pull the nose up and just keep going? What if that plane was so fucking high that it just left the gravitational pull of the earth???!?

 

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22 hours ago, Derka said:

CDC: “we want to be top 10 in every sport. that’s the standard………..unless it costs money to hire elite coaches, and in that case we’re not really interested in being good, or winning, or filling that $375m basketball arena we just built.”

yeah, because that makes sense. so on the one hand you’ve got chris del conte who has stated in no uncertain terms what our athletic goals are, backing it up with elite hires across the board, not to mention a $375 million dollar basketball arena, and then on the other hand you’ve got gerry fucking hamilton, who knows fuck all about anything, saying that a $5m buyout is too rich for our blood. 

gee, just a really tough call on who to believe.

Well we didn’t pay for the arena just the land that it is built on 

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29 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

I'll throw something else out there. What if the plane never came back to ground but instead kept climbing, to the point it left earth's atmosphere? I know that a space shuttle has insane amounts of thrust/force/speed to get off the ground and into space, but could a plane, already traveling at 40,000 feet doing 500+mph pull the nose up and just keep going? What if that plane was so fucking high that it just left the gravitational pull of the earth???!?

 

Like anybody could even answer that question without information on the treadmills whereabouts. 

Posted
38 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Like anybody could even answer that question without information on the treadmills whereabouts. 

LOL sorry that post was supposed to go in Derka's "what if" thread but I guess I clicked the wrong thread

Posted
19 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

Maybe we could reassign RT to be equipment manager for football.

I don’t have any doubt that Rodney is a fine coach. I think he would make a great ball boy, maybe a lead laundry tech. spacer.png

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just give Sampson 7 mil for 2/3 yrs…. bring  1/2 his roster and his 5 star recruits from U ofH and wash the stink off of this disaster. Just flush it!

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8 hours ago, Rholl said:

just give Sampson 7 mil for 2/3 yrs…. bring  1/2 his roster and his 5 star recruits from U ofH and wash the stink off of this disaster. Just flush it!

You also have to agree to give his son the job next if you bring him in. Which is at least part of the issue.

Plus the stink of a five year show cause is still hard to wash off, especially when he didn't learn from his first issue at OU.

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8 minutes ago, NoName said:

You also have to agree to give his son the job next if you bring him in. Which is at least part of the issue.

Plus the stink of a five year show cause is still hard to wash off, especially when he didn't learn from his first issue at OU.

I have heard of the Head Coach in Waiting,  I have heard of the HNIC. Now… the HNIW that’s different! I’m kind  of ok with that. 

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1 hour ago, NoName said:

Plus the stink of a five year show cause is still hard to wash off, especially when he didn't learn from his first issue at OU.

Lol. Get real. No one serious gives the slightest shit about that anymore. Sampson is a great coach that produces results. His only issue is being old.

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10 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

No one serious gives the slightest shit about that anymore.

CDC might.   Also why I don't think Will Wade should even be considered

Plus he cheated his ass off and only managed 1 trip to the second weekend at LSU.  Like if you're going to cheat, at least have better results than NIT, Sweet 16, (tournament cancelled), R32, R64.  And he didn't even coach the NCAA tournament games in 2019, so he shouldn't get credit for that Sweet 16 appearance. 

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24 minutes ago, Js1 said:

CDC might.   Also why I don't think Will Wade should even be considered

Plus he cheated his ass off and only managed 1 trip to the second weekend at LSU.  Like if you're going to cheat, at least have better results than NIT, Sweet 16, (tournament cancelled), R32, R64.  And he didn't even coach the NCAA tournament games in 2019, so he shouldn't get credit for that Sweet 16 appearance. 

I don't think UT would consider Sampson right now but if he was, say, 10 years younger I think you'd be insane not to. Right now, he's clearly one of the best coaches in the business regardless. He's been to 4 straight sweet 16s, two elite eights, and a final four in the last 5 years.

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Sampson is a non-starter because he’s going to retire at Houston and has said that a billion times. He has everything he needs and his program is at the elite level. He doesn’t need to leave and start over. He has also set his son up to be the next HC there. 

People who keep mentioning Sampson as a legit hire are just admitting they have no clue about college basketball.

Was the football thread like this before Sark? I can’t remember. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Fud said:

Samson is in the same bucket as Quinn Snyder, Nate Oats, and Bill Walton. Not happening. 

One guy we're not gonna hire, one guy is dead, and the other two are potential candidates. 

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2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

One guy we're not gonna hire, one guy is dead who we're not going to hire, and the other two are potential candidates who we're not going to hire. 

Fify

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15 minutes ago, Fud said:

Fify

Do you have some personal aversion here? If we're making a list of the top 10 or so potential candidates based on what we know now (which admittedly isn't a lot) I'd have both Snyder and Oats on there. 

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