UT's next basketball coach - discussion/debate

[Rockethorn1978 6,204]

Whoever we get I can assure you I’ll want him fired by next week.

[Laxtonto 13,014]

4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

This is my concern as well. If he's not good, firing him may prove difficult bc his buddies will think we didn't give him a chance or enough time or the right resources.

We are in win-now mode.  If Ivey wants to be the head coach, there's opportunities for him to go out there and get that experience and come home later.  He and all his NBA buddies are also welcome around the program anytime they'd like. 

Also if Ivey tanks here he is probably going to be pushed into the NBA assistant for life pool.. He goes somewhere else and builds an identity then if he fails at a big job he has something to fall back on resume wise. Right now he is all potential and hype.

 

I would love to have him here in Austin, but in truth now is not the time for either party.

[Rockethorn1978 6,204]

And I’ll take a hard pass on Ivey right now. I can give two shits if all the nba exes want him. I want someone that’s coached and knows the recruiting landscape, I’m not saying he couldn’t be great but I’d like to see him do it somewhere else first. 

[SizzleChest 8,303]

5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

People do realize Beard can get the NBA Horns back aligned too, right? I don’t get the sense our NBA Horns are saying only Ivey can bring back their support. I do get the sense they just want a coach who knows what the fuck he’s doing.

 

[maninblack 7,975]

[RGBIII 23,012]

Tech fans about to be in shambles 

[GreenspointTexas 9,933]

F5F5F5F5

[ClubWhatever 12,277]

Cool your mittens. Nothing will be announced until tomorrow at the earliest. .  

[CowtownHorn 5,126]

[Js1 87,036]

3 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

Cool your mittens. Nothing will be announced until tomorrow at the earliest. .  

This 

[Teryor 4,974]

I went through FCB's post history (couple thoughts, 247 makes it fucking hard to do this and I had to see TyroneSwoope's posts so a mega-fuck you for that) and I've only seen him be coy about Beard. In a post about Shaka being excited to coach at Marquette for the sold out crowds he said this: 

And in a thread talking about how Beard's lack of rejection is good he responded with this:

I'd rather someone just post the IT update from this morning because we all know FCB sucks and it sucks ass I spent any time on this

[Guest]

52 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Oh let me guess:

• Good riddance. We don't want him. 
• He has no loyalty
• Didn't even do that well here, if you look at X, Y, Z
• Terrible brand of basketball, wasn't fun to watch, we can do better
• Delusional rants about how they are going to land the an elite coach there is because they are a basketball school now

What’s funny/ strange to me is the number of posters in this discussion on this board poo-pooing Beard’s teams’ style of play.  Are they  looking for Jerry Tarkanian, Grandamama, and 120 points a game or some shit?

Winning is plenty sexy and Beard does it a lot.

I will not be happy if he leaves.  He’s a very special coach, with whose philosophy and concepts I identify with, pretty damned strongly. You’re right though, points 1-4 will be hit bigtime.  There are already people bitching because ‘ he’s looking elsewhere just like ole Leach.”  These people have an extreme aversion to winning and success. It drives me nuts.

Edited March 31, 2021 by slorch

[Machinator 32,102]

IT's update isn't particularly illuminating.

Spoiler

Texas Tech head coach Chris Beard is still the odds on favorite to be the next head coach at Texas and we’re not alone in that thinking.

However, per our best sources an agreement has yet to be reached.

Texas Tech is working furiously to keep him, but there seems to be some reconciliation on that side they’ll either struggle to keep him or put the rest of the athletic department at a competitive disadvantage by over-spending.

As we’ve reported, we don’t necessarily think this will come down to money. Beard is a UT graduate and Texas brass has had its eye on him since he took Tech to the National Championship game, if not before.

Since this isn’t done we’re still monitoring any activity with other coaches. We know Texas is working on other candidates but we don’t know exactly who those names are beyond the guys we’ve mentioned — Royal Ivey and Dana Altman.

 

[Funk Doctor Spock 13,129]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

Isn't Sampson's "sleaziness" basically just texting kids during dead periods. Or am I forgetting something else? Calipari and Pitino seem like next-level pieces of shit compared to Sampson.

I remember the texting, but I think someone alluded to under the table payments, but I don't know if that's just rumor.

[CurlyDumps 4,618]

27 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Whoever we get I can assure you I’ll want him fired by next week.

The "Fire ____ _____" thread will on page 10 by then.

 

[Teryor 4,974]

15 minutes ago, Machinator said:

IT's update isn't particularly illuminating.

  Reveal hidden contents

Texas Tech head coach Chris Beard is still the odds on favorite to be the next head coach at Texas and we’re not alone in that thinking.

However, per our best sources an agreement has yet to be reached.

Texas Tech is working furiously to keep him, but there seems to be some reconciliation on that side they’ll either struggle to keep him or put the rest of the athletic department at a competitive disadvantage by over-spending.

As we’ve reported, we don’t necessarily think this will come down to money. Beard is a UT graduate and Texas brass has had its eye on him since he took Tech to the National Championship game, if not before.

Since this isn’t done we’re still monitoring any activity with other coaches. We know Texas is working on other candidates but we don’t know exactly who those names are beyond the guys we’ve mentioned — Royal Ivey and Dana Altman.

 

Eh, I prefer honest nothing over FCB's bullshit "I know something you don't know~~~~!" routine

[Ricky Butler 2,791]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

Guys, I asked the 'buelita working the register here at Whataburger if Texas was going to hire Chris Beard and she said "huh?"

You heard it here first. 

What's the acceptable number of cheeseburgers to eat for lunch in a week? 38, no family history of heart disease.

[Ricky Butler 2,791]

57 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

One risk with Ivey is that if he has an extended run of mediocrity it may be tough to fire him without alienating those NBA alums.  So maybe add in a few more years of wandering in the wilderness.

With the support Ivey has in the league, it sounds like he's going to be an NBA coach soon. Superstars almost get to pick their coaches these days. No way we could keep him.

[Bevo14 8,468]

25 minutes ago, Teryor said:

I went through FCB's post history (couple thoughts, 247 makes it fucking hard to do this and I had to see TyroneSwoope's posts so a mega-fuck you for that) and I've only seen him be coy about Beard. In a post about Shaka being excited to coach at Marquette for the sold out crowds he said this: 

And in a thread talking about how Beard's lack of rejection is good he responded with this:

I'd rather someone just post the IT update from this morning because we all know FCB sucks and it sucks ass I spent any time on this

I saw those posts and didn't mention them because FCB.

[Rockethorn1978 6,204]

If Ivey got hired though we would have 5 stars in meetings with him and kd and LA helping him recruit studs here. Fuck it I’m torn now. 

[Burt Macklin 19,222]

28 minutes ago, slorch said:

What’s funny/ strange to me is the number of posters in this discussion on this board poo-pooing Beard’s teams’ style of play.  Are they  looking for Jerry Tarkanian, Grandamama, and 120 points a game or some shit?

Winning is plenty sexy and Beard does it a lot.

I will not be happy if he leaves.  He’s a very special coach, with whose philosophy and concepts I identify with, pretty damned strongly. You’re right though, points 1-4 will be hit bigtime.  There are already people bitching because ‘ he’s looking elsewhere just like ole Leach.”  These people have an extreme aversion to winning and success. It drives me nuts.

 Now this is a good point Slorch. Beard definitely plays a slower pace, but his offense has a lot of nuance to it. He has good off ball movement and I remember enjoying watching the Tech team that made a run set really good back door screens creating good looks for the cutter. There will be pleasing things about the offense even though it’s not a Musselman/Oates get out and run style of play. And watching wonderfully executed defense and discipline can also be very entertaining. 

[Ricky Butler 2,791]

6 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

I saw those posts and didn't mention them because FCB.

Prove it.

[Beau Vine 55,844]

9 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

If Ivey got hired though we would have 5 stars in meetings with him and kd and LA helping him recruit studs here. Fuck it I’m torn now. 

Pretty sure that would be a recruiting violation.

Quote

Only institutional staff members are permitted to recruit prospective student-athletes. Generally, NCAA rules prohibit anyone else from contacting (calling, writing or in-person contact) prospects or the prospect’s relatives or guardian for recruiting purposes.

 

[MoJames 8,258]

44 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Tech fans about to be in shambles 

[Fug 604]

3 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Pretty sure that would be a recruiting violation.

 

Also, those guys have jobs and when they aren’t working, I am sure they are not wanting to help recruit for a school they were at for 6 months

[Machinator 32,102]

Just now, Fug said:

Also, those guys have jobs and when they aren’t working, I am sure they are not wanting to help recruit for a school they were at for 6 months

The whole premise behind the Royal Ivey movement is that the athletes who were here for a limited amount of time still care very much about the program and would love to throw their support to help it succeed.

[Rockethorn1978 6,204]

2 minutes ago, Fug said:

Also, those guys have jobs and when they aren’t working, I am sure they are not wanting to help recruit for a school they were at for 6 months

If that was the case they wouldn’t be making a huge push for a Texas to hire him.

[Rockethorn1978 6,204]

6 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Pretty sure that would be a recruiting violation.

 

Yea I was being halfway sarcastic. 

[Bevo14 8,468]

247 Tech posters claiming their AD and Beard are no longer speaking

Edited March 31, 2021 by Bevo14

[Huckleberry 34,411]

6 minutes ago, Fug said:

Also, those guys have jobs and when they aren’t working, I am sure they are not wanting to help recruit for a school they were at for 6 months

Man there sure are a lot of people upset that some other people left UT after one year to go make millions of guaranteed dollars but are still more identified as Longhorns than they are.

If any of us had millions on the table to leave Texas after a year we would have taken the money and been out of the room before they even finished asking the question. And we'd still be just as much Longhorns as we are now. Just like those players are.

[Fug 604]

3 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Man there sure are a lot of people upset that some other people left UT after one year to go make millions of guaranteed dollars but are still more identified as Longhorns than they are.

If any of us had millions on the table to leave Texas after a year we would have taken the money and been out of the room before they even finished asking the question. And we'd still be just as much Longhorns as we are now. Just like those players are.

I am not saying I blame them at all, just if I’m KD and am playing basketball for 9 months a year, the other 3 months I’m dealing with my business ventures, I’m probably not hopping on a plane to come help UT get some 5 star kid. I am a realist, no blame on those guys for leaving after 1 year.

[Pato del Muerto 53,366]

I’m cool with beard or Ivey.   Why not?  One of them going to ruin the prestigious history of Texas basketball?

[Bevo14 8,468]

my dude, charge your phone

Edited March 31, 2021 by Bevo14

[Huckleberry 34,411]

Shinesintx2 sounds like way too much of a whiny bitch to be allowed to post an image containing my name and likeness. I demand recompense.

[Laxtonto 13,014]

1 minute ago, Bevo14 said:

Anyone figure out who we dont know taht was viewing this thread at 2:11? There is nothing like a good crowd sourcing fatawa to get the blood pumping while we wait..

[Utexas66 4]

3 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

Seems like you upset them.

[Machinator 32,102]

1 minute ago, Laxtonto said:

Anyone figure out who we dont know taht was viewing this thread at 2:11? There is nothing like a good crowd sourcing fatawa to get the blood pumping while we wait..

You don't need an account to lurk here.

[boilerhorn 1,608]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

People do realize Beard can get the NBA Horns back aligned too, right? I don’t get the sense our NBA Horns are saying only Ivey can bring back their support. I do get the sense they just want a coach who knows what the fuck he’s doing.

This was mentioned a while back.  NBA guys know a bad coach when the see it.  As was mentioned here a while back (by you?), a lot of those guys were disgusted by the way Smart ran practices.

39 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

 He has good off ball movement and I remember enjoying watching the Tech team that made a run set really good back door screens creating good looks for the cutter. And watching wonderfully executed defense and discipline can also be very entertaining. 

Anyone who coaches off-ball movement is a significant improvement over Smart.  Having it accompanied by good fundamentals and discipline will be fantastic.  The on-court product will be night and day better with Beard.

Edited March 31, 2021 by boilerhorn

[Laxtonto 13,014]

Just now, Machinator said:

You don't need an account to lurk here.

But if they are vested enough to come here to look for info with all the other shit and take screenshots to bitch about it, I would expect that they would also sign up to have a troll account ready just in case... but if not and we accidentally nuke some noob by accident...

 

 

[Beau Vine 55,844]

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Utexas66 said:

Seems like you upset them.

The insecurity can be pervasive on there.  Like, in a very scary way, you end up asking, ‘ How do y’all function in life?’

The FB pages are the worst.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Beau Vine said:

If I was on the fence, that would push me out the door…

[Steel Shank 9,536]

1 hour ago, Teryor said:

I'd rather someone just post the IT update from this morning because we all know FCB sucks and it sucks ass I spent any time on this

Would you rather be laying pipe?

[immamac 44,220]

9 minutes ago, Machinator said:

You don't need an account to lurk here.

you do to not see ads, the lack of aids on that screen is a dead giveaway.

[Radical Larry 28,816]

You don't need an account to lurk here.

Sounds like something Shinesintx2 would say.

[cafe society 2,903]

13 hours ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

I live in Arkansas, he wouldn’t even answer the phone. He is a god here.

He's as mercenary as they come, just like dad.  He'll go wherever he makes the most dinero and with the quickest path to the NBA.  Don't kid yourself; he grew up in this world of negotiations.  He just plays the game well enough to make his current employer feel all warm and fuzzy.

[Red Five 41,619]

I don't know. Does that offer include the veal? 

https://www.italiangardenlubbock.com/menu-1

[Laxtonto 13,014]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

you do to not see ads, the lack of aids on that screen is a dead giveaway.

Oh shit... the man is on the case...

 

We may get our fatawa after all!

 

[TexasEx 1,697]

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

you do to not see ads, the lack of aids on that screen is a dead giveaway.

Well, then.. let the games begin. 

[Hornlover 8,921]

27 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Man there sure are a lot of people upset that some other people left UT after one year to go make millions of guaranteed dollars but are still more identified as Longhorns than they are.

If any of us had millions on the table to leave Texas after a year we would have taken the money and been out of the room before they even finished asking the question. And we'd still be just as much Longhorns as we are now. Just like those players are.

Bitching about KD only attending UT for one year is the Texas version of aggy complaining about t-shirt fans.