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Missouri is trying to pass a law for NBA gambling.  The NBA lined the pockets of a few legislatures and in exchange they are getting a 1-2% rub on every bet.  I can't believe that MO is actually seriously considering this proposal.  If you want to legalize gambling then just do it.  Fuck the NBA.

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On 4/30/2018 at 10:16 PM, TahoeHorn said:

The Supreme Court will decide a case on sports betting (unless it becomes moot).  How will they rule?  How should they rule?

I think PASPA is on shaky constitutional ground. 

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I think Congress has the power to prohibit sports gambling nationally (or in certain states) but the bizarre structure of PASPA, where Congress does not criminalize sports gambling but rather forbids states from authorizing sports gambling is constitutionally problematic. Oral argument seemed to indicate a 6-3 decision (conservative 5 plus Breyer) striking it down.

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Onboard 2.0

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7 hours ago, DixonHur said:

I was with you til that last part...why should it be taxed any different from other forms of gambling?

So they can set up a fund for the people who can't afford to gamble.. sort of like Obamacare....

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DanRydell

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7-2 decision with Ginsburg and Sotomayor dissenting (6-3 in parts but mostly 7-2). Holding is basically that the federal government can prohibit sports gambling if they’re so inclined but they can’t direct states to do so.

 

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Jhawk

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It is going to get more play now but the nba is saying that they should get a 1% cut if every bet made for their league. Their claim is that they have to beef up compliance to account for 3rd parties betting on their games. What a fucking joke. 

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Wow.  The tribes in Oklahoma are renegotiating their gaming compact with the state as I type this.  With all of the revenue problems in Oklahoma over the last 8 years I can't imagine sports books not becoming legal.  The tribes are going to be rolling in even more North Texas money very soon.  If Texas is smart they will legalizing sports betting in the next couple of years.  

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While I like gambling and not a fan of govt interference, I'm not sure this is good for the US.  However since most people can gamble even with the current laws, why not allow the govt more controls and protection over it.    IF the federal govt felt it was their issue, they never should have allowed it in one state.  Makes no sense.   

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7 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

hell, you can gamble on soccer matches IN THE FUCKING STADIUM in the uk.

i think the cries of doom and gloom are silly. how we allow for horse racing and the lottery and not other general sports is so hypocritical.

And poker.

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2 hours ago, DanRydell said:

Adelson only has one US casino outside Nevada (in Pennsylvania) so it’ll be interesting to see if he calls in his chits and gets Congress and Trump to fix the law to ban it everywhere but Nevada.

 

Pretty sure this decision would prevent congress from doing that even if they wanted to. 

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i'm tired of the Offshore websites and would like to go in person to do a one time bet here in a Texas venue. I also don't like the Rollover rule which requires you to win twice to get your own money back. I also want to get rid of allthe local bookies and make it legal tax it and fix some roads! It's a great idea. 

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Lagunamadre

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3 minutes ago, DanRydell said:

 


This decision just requires them to do it directly rather than ordering states to do it.

 

Presumably though if Congress passed a law allowing some states to have legal sports betting and others not, then that law would look similar to PASPA and would be struck down by the supreme court using the same constitutional arguments used against PASPA. 

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Its probably pretty unsurly, but I like having  my gambling at a distance. Nothing is more depressing than going into WinStar or some shitty Louisiana casino and see the blue hairs smoking and sending their cash down the tubes and limping back to their now-a-little-bit-more-dire lives.  I don’t really want that in Texas.  Make me fly to Vegas to see it.  

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On 4/30/2018 at 10:54 PM, WhatTheBuck said:

Fuck the Republicans responsible for forcing the UIGEA on us. Worthless pieces of shit. 

Not sure I understand:  Wiki

  • Passed the House on July 11, 2006 (317-93 Roll call vote 363, via Clerk.House.gov)
  • Passed the Senate on September 14, 2006 (98-0 Roll call vote 249, via Senate.gov, in lieu of H.R. 4954)
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2 minutes ago, 77horn said:

Not sure I understand:  Wiki

  • Passed the House on July 11, 2006 (317-93 Roll call vote 363, via Clerk.House.gov)
  • Passed the Senate on September 14, 2006 (98-0 Roll call vote 249, via Senate.gov, in lieu of H.R. 4954)

It was a VERY late addition to the wholly unrelated SAFE Ports Act by Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ).

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KS already has a bill written to regulate in the state. It would allow sports betting in casinos, online, and anywhere that sells state lottery or keno (so bars would be allowed). Estimated $75 million a year in state income. 

 

I'm all for it even though I personally don't find sports betting attractive or fun. 

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Lagunamadre

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14 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

Its probably pretty unsurly, but I like having  my gambling at a distance. Nothing is more depressing than going into WinStar or some shitty Louisiana casino and see the blue hairs smoking and sending their cash down the tubes and limping back to their now-a-little-bit-more-dire lives.  I don’t really want that in Texas.  Make me fly to Vegas to see it.  

I agree. I would hate it if Houston had casinos. I enjoy having to go to Vegas or Lake Chuck to lose a grand. 

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1 minute ago, seven said:

KS already has a bill written to regulate in the state. It would allow sports betting in casinos, online, and anywhere that sells state lottery or keno (so bars would be allowed). 

So, at convenience stores? It is bad enough to be behind the people buying scratchers, now they will also be buying two team teasers?

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2 minutes ago, Dr Fear said:

So, at convenience stores? It is bad enough to be behind the people buying scratchers, now they will also be buying two team teasers?

I'll take $5 on pump 2, a pack of Luckys, and $20 on the money line in the 'Stros game. 

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1 minute ago, Dr Fear said:

So, at convenience stores? It is bad enough to be behind the people buying scratchers, now they will also be buying two team teasers?

I heard the author on the radio and that was my understanding, but I haven't read the bill. 

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Presumably though if Congress passed a law allowing some states to have legal sports betting and others not, then that law would look similar to PASPA and would be struck down by the supreme court using the same constitutional arguments used against PASPA. 


There’s no reason it has to look similar to PASPA. Congress can just pass a law that says, “It is illegal to place or receive a bet on any sporting event. This prohibition does not apply in any state where gambling was authorized by state law on or before December 31, 2011.” That would be perfectly fine under this ruling and would prohibit sports gambling everywhere but Nevada.
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If everybody starts asking for 1% here, 1% there, the feasibility goes out the window pretty quickly. Profit is about 5%  of action wagered in Vegas sportsbooks, and the vast majority of those lines will be around -110 odds. 

I can get -105 lines all day online, and bitcoin makes getting money in/out a lot easier. The competition here is not Vegas, its bookies and online sports book that operate on much cheaper cost structures. 

If they get too many people trying to skim off the top, its gonna be a problem. 

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2 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Adam Siver can get fucked trying to collect a Royalty from all wagers. It’s part of what makes your sport popular and if the NBA were gone tomorrow there would still be gambling. What a greedy fucker. 

Leave them off the board for a year and watch them come crawling back. If you can legally bet on every sport but one, viewership of that one will suffer dramatically. 

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1 hour ago, Brothahorn said:

What about Galveston?

I would love a casino in Galveston, as opposed to traveling to that shitty state next door.

Thought they had a floating casino that went out far enough to be legal. That thing sink?

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CR observation:  The "anti-commandeering" rule is the same premise on which some states and "sanctuary" cities refuse to enforce federal immigration law.  It'll be fun to see if the conservative justices feel the same way if and when that issue hits their desk.  I've got 10-1 odds that they don't.

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13 hours ago, RPM said:

Thought they had a floating casino that went out far enough to be legal. That thing sink?

Those floating casinos come and go. Corpus had one, it gone, Aransas Pass had one, it gone. Supposedly Galveston is getting a new one, but it sounds like a high school business project, so it aint gonna happen. Somehow I don't think they are a great money making venture. People don't want to throw up while gambling. People don't want to have to schedule when they are going to gamble and then set aside 7 hours where they are stuck on a vomit comet that also includes gambling.

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Why does a casino need to be a waterborne vessel?

 

Why couldn't it be in any other resort type areas?

 

Fuck driving 1-3 hours to get to the motherfucking casino.  The mindset around these idiotic regulations is mindbottling to no end.

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Just now, slorch said:

Why does a casino need to be a waterborne vessel?

If that's in reply to my post - because the question was asked if Galveston still had a floating one.


Why couldn't it be in any other resort type areas?

Current state law does not allow casinos, unless indian, feather not dot. Legislature doesn't meet until next January. I'm sure there will be a handful of bills to legalize it and I'm sure they'll all fail.

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