UAP Pentagon Report (UFOs, Foo Fighters, Commie Drones)

[atomheartbevo 89,643]

4 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

those people are now positioning themselves to jump on this story and slant the military’s program as undermining and subverting a US public who might fall for that load of horse shit since it is now unfamiliar with how the military conducted itself procedurally during the Cold War.

Me thinks we flew our F-117s and B-2s through and around plenty of Soviet/Russian/Chinese air defenses and over plenty of their ships when they first entered service.

 

 

[atomheartbevo 89,643]

3 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

Narrator:

they are.

I'd expect social media would be blowing up in Abilene, Bossier City, the Dakotas, areas around other bases, Vandenberg AFB, Cape Canaveral, around the various aerospace companies in California, etc. if these same vehicles were running massive sorties over those areas.

 

[Longhorn94 2,448]

9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Why are they so hyper-focused on the Navy?  Why aren't we seeing all of these UFOs over the cities, flying over our highways, our factories, etc.  

Why aren't they flying hundreds of missions over our nuclear missile silos and Air Force bomber bases? Or over the areas where we test our latest and greatest? 

We don't know that they are focused on the navy and we don't know that they aren't doing all of the other things listed. We also don't know the reasons behind any of it.

 

 

[atomheartbevo 89,643]

1 minute ago, Longhorn94 said:

We don't know that they are focused on the navy and we don't know that they aren't doing all of the other things listed. We also don't know the reasons behind any of it.

If they are running hundreds of extensive sorties against our non-naval military forces (and civilian areas), we'd be seeing it.  Yeah, we have plenty of military bases out in the boonies, but the majority of them have sizable communities nearby.  Places of interest like Palmdale are not far from Los Angeles, etc.  Civilians would have seen the kind of stuff we are seeing from the Navy folks, and because everybody has a smart phone with a camera in their pocket, we'd be seeing photos or social media chatter.

It ain't fucking aliens, that's for sure.

 

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

Just now, atomheartbevo said:

I'd expect social media would be blowing up in Abilene, Bossier City, the Dakotas, areas around other bases, Vandenberg AFB, Cape Canaveral, around the various aerospace companies in California, etc. if these same vehicles were running massive sorties over those areas.

 

There’s a number of reports of UAPs apparent interest in our nuclear weapons. There several reports from operators of minute men missiles with high security clearance that have testified that there have been tests of nucular weapons that were directly affected by UAPs that one time happened in front of a lot of high brass.

there isalso  one that describes how in ND 7 minute men rockets he was in charge of became active in their silos while a UAP was over them. Then suddenly everything shut down when it left. 

the techs went thru every inch of the rocket and systems and discovered that the plutonium had somehow become inert. Years later a heavily redacted report was released by FIA where around the time the officer claims the incident happened, the military sent a piece of inert nuclear material to private companies for study. 

[Longhorn94 2,448]

13 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

If they are running hundreds of extensive sorties against our non-naval military forces (and civilian areas), we'd be seeing it.  Yeah, we have plenty of military bases out in the boonies, but the majority of them have sizable communities nearby.  Places of interest like Palmdale are not far from Los Angeles, etc.  Civilians would have seen the kind of stuff we are seeing from the Navy folks, and because everybody has a smart phone with a camera in their pocket, we'd be seeing photos or social media chatter.

It ain't fucking aliens, that's for sure.

 

I have no idea what it is. Neither do you. And again, we don't know they are targeting anything. You are making lots of assumptions with very little support.

 

 

[Parliament 14,254]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

600mph through the water would be pretty noisy.  And would be pretty amazing from a physics POV, but maybe they've found out how to transform the properties of water.

Super cavitating torpedoes can't go 600 mph (yet) but the technology to do so is possible.  No "generational step change" required.  Add to some super advanced radar dazzlers, and it's entirely possible the Russians/Chinese can pull it off.

[CHIEF 5,079]

35 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

There’s a number of reports of UAPs apparent interest in our nuclear weapons. There several reports from operators of minute men missiles with high security clearance that have testified that there have been tests of nucular weapons that were directly affected by UAPs that one time happened in front of a lot of high brass.

there isalso  one that describes how in ND 7 minute men rockets he was in charge of became active in their silos while a UAP was over them. Then suddenly everything shut down when it left. 

the techs went thru every inch of the rocket and systems and discovered that the plutonium had somehow become inert. Years later a heavily redacted report was released by FIA where around the time the officer claims the incident happened, the military sent a piece of inert nuclear material to private companies for study. 

You gotta keep the ants in your ant farm from killing each other?

CHIEF

[mdleast 8,289]

Made it a point to record 60 Minutes tonight. It is certainly noticeable how many more reports and official acknowledgments seem to be coming out these days.

[XYZ 2,154]

4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

It ain't fucking aliens, that's for sure.

You don’t know that.

[CooterBrown 18,005]

Made it a point to record 60 Minutes tonight. It is certainly noticeable how many more reports and official acknowledgments seem to be coming out these days.

They’re grooming the public for when it finally does become officially confirmed to minimize the freak out.

[MaybeACoordinator 8,349]

I wish I could remember where I heard this report -- some podcast or other a few years ago -- but supposedly there is a billionaire UFO fanatic who essentially pays the US Navy out of his own pocket to indulge his fantasies. Like tens or hundreds of millions of dollars the Navy wouldn't get their hands on otherwise, so they just take his money and say "Yeah, sir, we definitely saw something out there this time. Now when did you say that next payment was coming?" They've given him some kind of bullshit rank and clearance and whatnot...

It sounds insane but not out of realm of possibility. 

[Hagbard Celine 10,852]

non-navy incidents over on-land military facilities have been happening for the last 75 years, in droves.  the USAF had hundreds of incidents during the first 50 years of the modern phenomena.  the largest number of incidents involve commercial pilots.  thousands.  the most interesting military incidents involved disabling nuclear missiles, in silos, and on test flights. 

people being unaware of the incidents is a result of never having encountered the information.

[MaybeACoordinator 8,349]

Another possibility -- I have it on good authority from navy vets that the stories of "rum, sodomy, and the lash" are all true. "It isn't gay if you're underway," a retired 20-year vet has told me repeatedly. So...the aliens might be interested in the Navy out of a shared love of butt stuff. 

[Hagbard Celine 10,852]

welp, the aliens never kidnapped phoebe cates, so there's that.

[Message Board User 12,395]

6 hours ago, mdleast said:

Made it a point to record 60 Minutes tonight. It is certainly noticeable how many more reports and official acknowledgments seem to be coming out these days.

https://www.cbs.com/shows/60_minutes/video/1_o9YfncqvVVSzSv49jBCDkQc5MmQIHu/navy-pilots-describe-encounters-with-ufos/

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

6 hours ago, CHIEF said:

You gotta keep the ants in your ant farm from killing each other?

CHIEF

The second we see a huge magnifying glass in orbit I'm bugging out for the hills.

[Red Five 40,852]

Has Marco Rubio always had ears like a Ferengi? 

[mdleast 8,289]

That’s why he knows so much about UAPs

[atomheartbevo 89,643]

5 hours ago, XYZ said:

You don’t know that.

I feel pretty confident in saying that extraterrestrials have not visited the earth.

I also feel pretty confident that there is/was/will be intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.

But the chances of us encountering such life is going to be up there with Sela Ward dropping the restraining orders against me and Brisket.

 

[mdleast 8,289]

Holy shit. What about the 2 pilots (including the Top Gun Pilot) on the 60 Minutes segment talking about the “tic tac” shaped ship? Why the fuck haven’t we heard more about that/aren’t people talking about that more?

[ztejas 43,418]

56 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I feel pretty confident in saying that extraterrestrials have not visited the earth.

That's just an underresearched or poorly informed opinion at this point. Unless you want to split hairs on "what" has visited. 

The evidence is overwhelming. It's not a conspiracy. 

[tbone_ 14,115]

Holy shit. What about the 2 pilots (including the Top Gun Pilot) on the 60 Minutes segment talking about the “tic tac” shaped ship? Why the fuck haven’t we heard more about that/aren’t people talking about that more?

This right here

[Brisketexan 105,093]

I feel pretty confident in saying that extraterrestrials have not visited the earth.
I also feel pretty confident that there is/was/will be intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.
But the chances of us encountering such life is going to be up there with Sela Ward dropping the restraining orders against me and Brisket.
 

So you’re saying there’s a chance?

[atomheartbevo 89,643]

14 minutes ago, ztejas said:

That's just an underresearched or poorly informed opinion at this point. Unless you want to split hairs on "what" has visited. 

The evidence is overwhelming. It's not a conspiracy. 

Anybody who has the technology to visit us, is going to have the technology to stay out-of-sight from us until they want to meet with us.  Whether that's parking a probe in orbit or something on the moon and watching what we do.  

With that kind fo technology, they don't need to constantly probe our military capabilities.

To put it in perspective: If we had the kind of technology to travel many light years, and we had the technology and longevity to find actual planets/solar systems with intelligent life, are we going to go all that way to visit those other worlds, and then just fuck around with their equivalent of aircraft and ships for years on end?

Are we going to expose ourselves and constantly probe their military and give them years/decades to be scared and to start preparing a hostile reception for us?  Because fucking around with our military ships and aircraft is a good way to ramp up our hysteria and get some fingers on some buttons, and get some weapons designers trying to think up ways to defeat such craft.

I would love for there to be extraterrestrial visitors, but this makes no sense.

[XYZ 2,154]

7 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

They’re grooming the public for when it finally does become officially confirmed to minimize the freak out.

This is the most logical explanation (that I can think of) for why they are suddenly so willing to share footage with the public.

[ztejas 43,418]

4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Anybody who has the technology to visit us, is going to have the technology to stay out-of-sight from us until they want to meet with us.  Whether that's parking a probe in orbit or something on the moon and watching what we do.  

With that kind fo technology, they don't need to constantly probe our military capabilities.

To put it in perspective: If we had the kind of technology to travel many light years, and we had the technology and longevity to find actual planets/solar systems with intelligent life, are we going to go all that way to visit those other worlds, and then just fuck around with their equivalent of aircraft and ships for years on end?

Are we going to expose ourselves and constantly probe their military and give them years/decades to be scared and to start preparing a hostile reception for us?  Because fucking around with our military ships and aircraft is a good way to ramp up our hysteria and get some fingers on some buttons, and get some weapons designers trying to think up ways to defeat such craft.

I would love for there to be extraterrestrial visitors, but this makes no sense.

Very anthropocentric mindset there. You're operating under the assumption that they would basically behave like humans just much more advanced. Why would that be the case? Wouldn't that be a crazy coincidence for them to behave exactly like we would or like we would expect them to? Maybe they don't even have weapons. 

Edited May 17, 2021 by ztejas

[KYHorn 17,022]

56 minutes ago, mdleast said:

Holy shit. What about the 2 pilots (including the Top Gun Pilot) on the 60 Minutes segment talking about the “tic tac” shaped ship? Why the fuck haven’t we heard more about that/aren’t people talking about that more?

The guy pilot was on Rogan's podcast last year discussing it in detail. https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ

That's really the only place I've seen it covered outside of Twitter, random blogs, and an occasional, brief news story.

Haven't seen much discussion of this either:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2021/02/08/what-is-behind-the-us-navys-ufo-fusion-energy-patent/amp/?sh=3189e5374733

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What Is Behind The U.S. Navy’s ‘UFO’ Fusion Energy Patent?

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When Dr. Salvatore Cezar Pais, an aerospace engineer at the Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division (NAWCAD), filed a patent for a “Plasma Compression Fusion Device” in 2019, it was either a giant breakthrough – or mad science. According to the patent application, the miniature device could contain and sustain fusion reactions capable of generating power in the gigawatt (1 billion watts) to terawatt (1 trillion watts) range or more. A large coal plant or mid-size nuclear powered reactor by comparison produces energy in the 1–2 gigawatt range. The revolutionary invention by Dr. Pais, if real, would produce near unlimited clean energy from something no larger than a sports utility vehicle.

Dr. Pais’ fusion device is among a handful of outlandish technologies dubbed “The UFO patents” that have, in some shape or form, been pursued by the U.S. Navy.

I’ve written before with some skepticism on the implications of Dr. Pais’ purported compact fusion reactor for U.S. energy independence. The physicist appears to have bona fide credentials including a Ph.D. from Case Western, and published some of his work, while much is presumably classified.

He has been employed by the Pentagon for decades. And this isn’t the first patent filed in his name, and all of them appear centered around what he calls the Pais Effect. Dr. Pais posits that by controlling the accelerated spin or vibration of electrically charged matter, high energy electromagnetic fields can be produced.

One proposed use for such fields is an “electromagnetic field generator” device which could be applied to alter the trajectory of earthbound asteroids over a period of time. While the patent makes clear that such a device would work only on “small” asteroids of under roughly 100 meters length or less, it isn’t hard to grasp the interest of any defense agency in providing contingencies for such a scenario.

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Dr. Pais’ “inertial mass reduction device” is one of his most extraordinary patents. This technology suggests manipulation of quantum field fluctuations which could reduce a vehicle’s inertial and gravitational mass, allowing it to travel at hitherto unseen speeds. The reason the speed of light is something of a universal speed limit is that mass increases to infinite as one reaches it, demanding infinite energy to continue moving. The ability to reduce mass could have incredible implications for the future of space travel. Only faster than light speeds of travel would allow the humanity to venture outside of the solar system.

His High Temperature Superconductor patent would, like a fusion device, revolutionize global energy systems. Superconductors have no electrical resistance, meaning electricity can be transferred without loss of energy to unlimited distances. That could mean quite a drop in energy costs, but getting any superconductor to operate even as warm as room temperature is a longstanding problem.

Last but not least is what Pais calls a high frequency gravitational wave generator. The patent purports that the electromagnetic fields created by the Pais Effect could be intersected, generating waves of gravity upon which a spaceship could propel itself to its destination. Such waves could also be used to deflect asteroids more efficiently or communicate through solid objects.

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Any one of these “UFO” patents would transform modern science and society. It might be too early to break out the champagne, though. While Dr. Pais has spoken confidently about his work in the past, the Navy recently threw cold water on hopes of a breakthrough.

Queries about his experiments were met with confirmation that a three-year $508,000 assessment had found no proof of the Pais Effect. For now at least, the odds are good that the Navy may not lead the energy revolution, while President Joe Biden expends political capital squaring off against fossil fuel companies.

That brings us back to his fusion device. Even if Dr. Pais is wrong, it doesn’t mean fusion is going to stay the stuff of science fiction forever, though. The International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor (ITER) project, an initiative with roots stretching back to a November 1985 summit between Reagan and Gorbachev, is currently scheduled to generate its first “small star” in November 2025. Various projects are racing them there, all with that shared goal of 2025.

All this is to say that fusion might no longer be perpetually thirty years away.

With some tangible, well-funded projects underway, it raises the question of why the Navy has previously gone to bat for Dr. Pais — and his ideas, which seem considerably ahead of their time if not outright implausible. The other possibilities are worth pondering though.

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Occam’s Razor would suggest there might be something there. A genuine breakthrough in theoretical physics so advanced would require serious and well-funded lab work and prototype experimentation for years or even decades. Think of the long journey from J.J. Thompson’s discovery of the electron (1897) and Rutherford’s atomic model (1911) to the Manhattan Project (1939-1946). There are defense applications to most physics breakthroughs, and that is plenty incentive to invest in any potential Enrico Fermi, Niels Bohr, Albert Einstein, or Andrey Sakharov. The patents could be a sort of hedging, ensuring the United States can claim it was there first.

A second explanation is that is a U.S. disinformation operation to entice our adversaries into spending billions of dollars on dead-end research. That was more or less the initial thinking behind President Reagan’s “Star Wars” initiative. By faking data, the officials behind the program hoped to entice the Soviets to burn billions for a then-non-viable space-based missile defense system. Sending China on a wild goose chase for the Pais Effect would be a clever use of half a million dollars. Otherwise, his research would be deeply classified and not patented.

Lastly, and most out there, Dr. Pais’ patents could be a cover for alien technology. If the recent disclosure by the Pentagon of possible encounters with extraterrestrial artifacts is true, such technology may be in the U.S. Government’s possession. Talk about a low probability, high impact event!

I am not sure if we will see Faster Than Light space travel any time soon, but with or without Dr. Salvatore Cezar Pais, the race for fusion power is on, and we are likely to see a successful result within our lifetime.

*Correction: a previous version of this story reported that Dr. Pais graduated from Carnegie Mellon. He is a graduate of Case Western Reserve University where he received all three of his degree (BS, MS, Ph.D).

 

 

Edited May 17, 2021 by KYHorn

[mdleast 8,289]

If Marco Rubio is calling for these to be taking seriously as a national security threat doesn’t that argue for these to be assumed to be (at least) drones from other countries (if not, on the “at most” end of the spectrum, aliens)? Assuming that is the case (regardless of what anyone thinks about how plausible or laughable the idea of it being “aliens” or not), it does seem striking/shocking that we haven’t heard more about this. To make it more geographically pertinent, if a report came out that there were multiple/ongoing sightings of whatever these are directly above Washington D.C., can’t we assume we would be hearing a whole lot more about them?

[wild_turkey 3,159]

Anybody who has the technology to visit us, is going to have the technology to stay out-of-sight from us until they want to meet with us.  Whether that's parking a probe in orbit or something on the moon and watching what we do.  
With that kind fo technology, they don't need to constantly probe our military capabilities.
To put it in perspective: If we had the kind of technology to travel many light years, and we had the technology and longevity to find actual planets/solar systems with intelligent life, are we going to go all that way to visit those other worlds, and then just fuck around with their equivalent of aircraft and ships for years on end?

I’m on the side of thinking these UAPs are a human technology in some form, but I also think you’re making a lot of assumptions about what level of technology an alien race would possess and what their intentions would be if they choose to visit Earth.

Just thinking about humans, if we’re still in existence over the next 100-500 years, we will be constantly pushing the limits of our technology to explore farther and farther into space. We will likely be sending unmanned rovers akin to Perseverance to other solar systems to explore potential habitable planets without knowing what is there in advance. That’s the very nature of exploration. I don’t think we will sit on our technology until it becomes sufficiently stealthy to avoid detection from any other possible lifeforms that could possibly exist, especially since we don’t know what those lifeforms are or what their own technology would be to detect us.

Therefore, it seems entirely possible to me that an alien race could be similarly pushing the limits of their own technology to explore the universe, and perhaps some of their probes could arrive at Earth and exist in a format that is partially observable to us. Maybe they are 1,000 light years away and their own planet was facing extinction and they sent millions of probes in all directions out of desperation. Now some of those probes have reached Earth, but that’s not to say that we are special or that our planet was targeted, but merely that in the vastness of the universe, someone cast a wide enough net that accidentally encountered us and we happened to see it.

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

32 minutes ago, mdleast said:

To make it more geographically pertinent, if a report came out that there were multiple/ongoing sightings of whatever these are directly above Washington D.C., can’t we assume we would be hearing a whole lot more about them?

You mean like in 1952? 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington,_D.C._UFO_incident

 

[atomheartbevo 89,643]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

Very anthropocentric mindset there. You're operating under the assumption that they would basically behave like humans just much more advanced. Why would that be the case? Wouldn't that be a crazy coincidence for them to behave exactly like we would or like we would expect them to? Maybe they don't even have weapons. 

1 hour ago, wild_turkey said:

I’m on the side of thinking these UAPs are a human technology in some form, but I also think you’re making a lot of assumptions about what level of technology an alien race would possess and what their intentions would be if they choose to visit Earth.

Just thinking about humans, if we’re still in existence over the next 100-500 years, we will be constantly pushing the limits of our technology to explore farther and farther into space. We will likely be sending unmanned rovers akin to Perseverance to other solar systems to explore potential habitable planets without knowing what is there in advance. 

If they have the technology to send probes countless light years out, then they've put some thought into what happens if those problems encounter intelligent life. I can think of three main scenarios, and plenty of smaller scenarios, but these feel like the main ones:

1. Ye Old Conquest. Revealing their capabilities and alerting us to their presence through antagonistic actions, and giving us time to come up with a response/defense of some sort doesn't seem the best course of action.
2. Ye Olde "We Come in Peace". Again, the actions of these craft are very antagonistic.
3. Ye Olde Prime Directive (non-interference/passive observation). Again, the actions of these craft are very antagonistic.

I have plenty of old sci-fi novels on my shelves that have some variation on the notion that aliens are sufficiently advanced to the point where we are to them what ants are to humans.  Like a wayward child, they just wanted to take a stick and poke the anthill.   But would that happen in reality?  They put all of that effort into looking for intelligent life, only to fuck with it?

In terms of wt's scenario, what if they were facing an extinction event?  If they have the technology to send automated probes many light years out, then I'd think they'd be putting efforts into ensuring their survival. If they were looking for a habitable planet (assuming they were carbon/oxygen based), this doesn't feel like the best way to make peaceful contact and ask if they can sleep on the couch.

On a tangent, Harry Turtledove wrote a fun series of books about aliens scouting out the earth during prehistoric times, with the intention of colonizing it, and then showing up millennia later with a colonization force that was equipped to fight a few thousand neanderthals or Homo erectus or whatever, armed with stone spears, not billions of Homo sapiens in the midst of World War II, complete with massive militaries and atomic weapons.

 

 

Edited May 17, 2021 by atomheartbevo

[ztejas 43,418]

6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

If they have the technology to send probes countless light years out, then they've put some thought into what happens if those problems encounter intelligent life. I can think of three main scenarios, and plenty of smaller scenarios, but these feel like the main ones:

1. Ye Old Conquest. Revealing their capabilities and alerting us to their presence through antagonistic actions, and giving us time to come up with a response/defense of some sort doesn't seem the best course of action.
2. Ye Olde "We Come in Peace". Again, the actions of these craft are very antagonistic.
3. Ye Olde Prime Directive (non-interference/passive observation). Again, the actions of these craft are very antagonistic.

But you're still making assumptions and framing it as if they behave and think the same way that we do. Like it's just our species but more advanced on a different planet. 

Do you not see the issue with that?

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

another mass report that has been forgotten: 

Farmington, NM Armada Event in 1950 

Hundreds of disks seen by thousands of people preformed incredible maneuvers over Farmington, NM for 3 days. The objects were also seen in Dallas, San Antonio and Mexico.

it dosent even have a Wikipedia entry. Just a blurb tacked on to the end of Farmington’s city page.

 

pretty interesting story:

https://wgno.com/news/farmington-ufo-armada-possibly-the-largest-ufo-event-youve-never-heard-about/

 

[El Diablo 4,232]

Coast-to-Coast AM had Matthew Roberts on over the weekend. He was on the USS Roosevelt in some intelligence capacity during the 2015 "Gimbal" incident. His life got very strange after that. Nix that, "strange" is an understatement. I think the dude lost his fucking mind but that's just my take. His story is googleable. Best part was when he was forced to have sex with a female blue alien.  This shit is going to bring out every crazy ever. 

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

Just now, El Diablo said:

Coast-to-Coast AM had Matthew Roberts on over the weekend. He was on the USS Roosevelt in some intelligence capacity during the 2015 "Gimbal" incident. His life got very strange after that. Nix that, "strange" is an understatement. I think the dude lost his fucking mind but that's just my take. His story is googleable. Best part was when he was forced to have sex with a female blue alien.  This shit is going to bring out every crazy ever. 

I call bullshit we all know female aliens are green

[CooterBrown 18,005]

8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

1. Ye Olde Prime Directive (non-interference/passive observation). Again, the actions of these craft are very antagonistic.

 

 

From a caveman perspective. At best, we would be at the caveman level compared to alien intelligence if they can even recognize humans as sentient life.  

Edited May 17, 2021 by CooterBrown

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

1 hour ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

I call bullshit we all know female aliens are green

Yeah but only the reptilian ones…

[Red Five 40,852]

1 hour ago, El Diablo said:

Best part was when he was forced to have sex with a female blue alien.

Yeah I imagine that would be the best part. 

[bernorange 8,359]

Dead men tell no tales.  The almost dead can be a different story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After_Roswell

[Nicole44 22,059]

This is all bad. I’ve seen the miniseries “V” and I know it’s not good. It’s never good. They (fucking aliens) probably have this speech memorized!

John/Fucking Alien: We have come in peace, to all mankind. Our planet is the fourth in distance from the star you call Sirius, some 8.7 light years from Earth. This is the first time we have left our system, and you the first intelligent life we've encountered. We're pleased to meet you. We have come on behalf of our great Leader, him who governs our united planet with benevolence and wisdom. We have come because we need your help. Our planet is in serious environmental difficulty, far far worse than yours, it's reached the stage where we will be unable to survive without immediate assistance. There are certain chemicals and compounds which we must manufacture, which alone can save our struggling civilization. And you can help us manufacture these and in return, we will gladly share with you the fruits of our knowledge.

 

Nicole: Total Bullshit!

 

John/Fucking Alien: And we'll reward your generosity as I have said by educating your industrial and scientific complex to the limits of our knowledge, helping to solve your environmental, agricultural and health dilemmas. Then we'll leave you as we came... In peace.

 

Nicole: OMG! 
 

John: Now if our circumstances were reversed, and you had come to visit us, I know that I would feel a burning curiosity to see the inside your of spacecraft right away.
 

Nicole: That’s totally true. I’m out! 

 

 

 

Edited May 17, 2021 by Nicole44

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

7 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

This is all bad. I’ve seen the miniseries “V” and I know it’s not good. It’s never good. They (fucking aliens) probably have this speech memorized!

John/Fucking Alien: We have come in peace, to all mankind. Our planet is the fourth in distance from the star you call Sirius, some 8.7 light years from Earth. This is the first time we have left our system, and you the first intelligent life we've encountered. We're pleased to meet you. We have come on behalf of our great Leader, him who governs our united planet with benevolence and wisdom. We have come because we need your help. Our planet is in serious environmental difficulty, far far worse than yours, it's reached the stage where we will be unable to survive without immediate assistance. There are certain chemicals and compounds which we must manufacture, which alone can save our struggling civilization. And you can help us manufacture these and in return, we will gladly share with you the fruits of our knowledge.

 

Nicole: Total Bullshit!

 

John/Fucking Alien: And we'll reward your generosity as I have said by educating your industrial and scientific complex to the limits of our knowledge, helping to solve your environmental, agricultural and health dilemmas. Then we'll leave you as we came... In peace.

 

Nicole: OMG! 
 

John: Now if our circumstances were reversed, and you had come to visit us, I know that I would feel a burning curiosity to see the inside your of spacecraft right away.
 

Nicole: That’s totally true. I’m out! 

 

 

 

V reference. 

nice.

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[Nicole44 22,059]

1 minute ago, Doc Reeves said:

V reference. 

nice.

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Marc Singer knows! He knows!

[SquishMitten 10,403]

Uhhh if they have all that amazing technology, why would they give a flying fuck what the US Navy do in response?
 
Given what we have seen, it just simply wouldn't matter.

From my extensive research of sci-fi novels, there’s a perfectly reasonable explanation. Let’s say a highly advanced civilization found us and wanted to make contact. It’s possible they have discovered other similar civilizations. Perhaps they’ve come across somebody who was a little too trigger happy. Even though they may be vastly more advanced than us and could easily wipe us out, that may not be their intention. Something like a nuke could presumably still kill an alien. They would be wise to make sure they knew all of our tech and took every precaution to minimize casualties on both sides when they inevitably make their presence known.

[SquishMitten 10,403]

This is all bad. I’ve seen the miniseries “V” and I know it’s not good. It’s never good. They (fucking aliens) probably have this speech memorized!

John/Fucking Alien: We have come in peace, to all mankind. Our planet is the fourth in distance from the star you call Sirius, some 8.7 light years from Earth. This is the first time we have left our system, and you the first intelligent life we've encountered. We're pleased to meet you. We have come on behalf of our great Leader, him who governs our united planet with benevolence and wisdom. We have come because we need your help. Our planet is in serious environmental difficulty, far far worse than yours, it's reached the stage where we will be unable to survive without immediate assistance. There are certain chemicals and compounds which we must manufacture, which alone can save our struggling civilization. And you can help us manufacture these and in return, we will gladly share with you the fruits of our knowledge.

 

Nicole: Total Bullshit!

 

John/Fucking Alien: And we'll reward your generosity as I have said by educating your industrial and scientific complex to the limits of our knowledge, helping to solve your environmental, agricultural and health dilemmas. Then we'll leave you as we came... In peace.

 

Nicole: OMG! 
 

John: Now if our circumstances were reversed, and you had come to visit us, I know that I would feel a burning curiosity to see the inside your of spacecraft right away.
 

Nicole: That’s totally true. I’m out! 

 

 

 

Alien: So please wire $10,000 to my bank account in Nigeria. We will then send you $100,000 back

[Nicole44 22,059]

Also I have a “case number” with MUFON for an “event” I saw a few years ago...Fucking A! I’m legit as my tits! 

[Message Board User 12,395]

I guess we really will need Space Force.

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

So… this is happening now:

Lt. Walter Haut was the press secretary at Roswell, NM in 1947 who drafted the famous UFO release with the base commander that was later denied and called a crashed weather balloon. Five years before his death he made a video describing what he saw. The video was evidently not released by his friends until the pentagon admitted UAPs were real.
 

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A FORMER Army press officer revealed he saw the body of a "beat-up alien" the "size of a 10-year-old child" after the Roswell UFO crash in a bombshell video he made before his death.

In the footage, released for the first time, the press officer for Roswell Army Air Field 1st Lt. Walter Haut recalls his encounter with the UFO and an alien body that had been found lifeless at the crash site in Roswell, New Mexico.

Haut drafted the military's original press release on the 1947 UFO crash, which made international news, but the Army Air Force quickly changed their story and said it was just a weather balloon.

In the video, shared with The Sun, Haut says: "To the best of my remembrance there was one body ... it was a relatively small body comparable to maybe a 10 or 11-year-old child. It was pretty well beat up."

He said he could not remember the color as it was so many years ago.

In a signed affidavit Haut made before his 2005 death, also shared with The Sun, he said: "I am convinced that what I personally observed was some type of craft and its crew from outer space."

The video was made in 2000 by Haut's friends Dennis Bathaser and Wendy Connors and has been kept under wraps until now. 

Researcher Anthony Bragalia, who first published the video on his UFO site, said it's a significant discovery following the recent release of Pentagon UFO documents earlier this year.

The Pentagon admitted to holding and testing wreckage from UFO crashes in a bombshell Freedom of Information letter, shared with The Sun, in February.

Bragalia says the stunning admission on the video confirms the extraterrestrial nature of the infamous Roswell crash. 

"The video was given to me by a close friend of Walter Haut's named Dennis Balthaser for distribution," Bragalia told The Sun.

The video had previously only been viewed by a small circle of researchers and Haut family members. 

"Given all the new information on UFOs coming out, they felt the time was right to let everyone see it.

The confessional video helps to confirm the extraterrestrial nature of the Roswell crash. 

"The recent release of the Pentagon UFO debris test results papers, with its inclusion of technical papers on memory metal like what was found as debris at Roswell, combined with this testimony, makes the incident even more likely to have been ET-related."

Bragalia believes the government could still be holding alien bodies and UFO debris in secured locations. 

"The alien bodies are likely stored in secure facilities with access only by those with a need to know," he said.

"I suspect that they are not all held in one place."

Bragalia says he had Haut's testimony looked at by a Digital Voice Stress Analysis (DVSA) expert who confirmed Haut was telling the truth. 

The expert, Jerry Baker, said: "My DVSA analysis of key portions of the Haut interview confirms that he did believe he was telling the truth about what he recalled about the ET in question. 

"The portions that I was able to use did confirm credibility."

Bragalia added: "Haut was seen as a trusted community member and was reluctant for years to tell his story."

"Now with Voice Stress Analysis, we know that what he finally did say about the event before he passed was indeed truthful."

The revelations come after disclosure campaigner Steve Bassett told The Sun we may be just weeks away from finding out the truth about UFOs and aliens by the US government.
 

 

 

[SquishMitten 10,403]

I’ve told this story on TOS, but it’s always fun for me to think about. My grandpa was in the Air Force during the Roswell incident, and he worked in communications or whatever it’s officially called. Each person in there would only receive short snippets of a message (like 2-3 words), which was then passed up the chain where the full message would be pieced back together. The one that stood out the most to him was he received several snippets referring to “the body” and “debris/wreckage.” Obviously, he has no way of knowing what they were actually talking about, but due to the timing he was always pretty confident. He didn’t tell this story to us until he was in the late stages of cancer, but my grandma confirmed he had told her about it way back in the day so we know it wasn’t just some old man’s delusions. She also confirmed that for years after he left the Air Force, there was always a black government vehicle parked down the street from them. Those two things don’t necessarily seem related as I can’t imagine they spent years following around everybody who was in comms that week, but he definitely knew something they didn’t want him talking about.

[Red Five 40,852]

36 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I’m legit as my tits!

In the spirit of disclosure...