UAP Pentagon Report (UFOs, Foo Fighters, Commie Drones)

[BamaATL 16286]

8 hours ago, nineliveslost said:

Why does it need to be transparent?

So you can see the whales dummy.  

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4962]

[msucolt45 3978]

I loved that “red head” from the X Files series, so I’m a believer, even though she was the denying portion of the team.

Hook’em!!!

[bolverk 29104]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/13/us/politics/ufo-records-schumer.html

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Bipartisan Measure Aims to Force Release of U.F.O. Records
Legislation backed by Chuck Schumer, the Senate majority leader, would create a review board to declassify documents related to unidentified aerial phenomena across the government.

Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the majority leader, is pushing legislation to create a commission with broad authority to declassify government documents about U.F.O.s and extraterrestrial matters, in an attempt to force the government to share all that it knows about unidentified phenomena.

The measure offers the possibility of pushing back against the conspiracy theories that surround discussions of U.F.O.s and fears that the government is hiding critical information from the public.

The legislation, which Mr. Schumer will introduce as an amendment to the annual defense policy bill, has bipartisan support, including that of Senator Mike Rounds, Republican of South Dakota, and Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, who has championed legislation that has forced the government to release a series of reports on unidentified phenomena.

Support in the House is also likely. On Wednesday, the chamber included a narrower measure in its version of the annual defense bill that would push the Pentagon to release documents about unidentified aerial phenomena.

(While the government has agreed not to call mysterious sightings U.F.O.s, various branches and agencies disagree on whether to refer to aerial phenomena or anomalous phenomena.)

The Senate measure sets a 300-day deadline for government agencies to organize their records on unidentified phenomena and provide them to the review board.

President Biden would appoint the nine-person review board, subject to Senate approval. Senate staff members say the intent is to select a group of people who would push for disclosure while protecting sensitive intelligence collection methods.

Interest in U.F.O.s has always been high, but it has grown even more since a collection of videos showing unidentified phenomena recorded by military sensors was made public and naval aviators described hard-to-explain events while on training missions.

Some of the videos released by the Pentagon have been explained as optical illusions or drones, but others remain unexplained and the object of much speculation. Under pressure from Congress, the Pentagon and intelligence agencies have gathered hundreds of reports of unexplained phenomena. Officials have said most of the unexplained incidents are airborne trash, Chinese spying efforts or errant weather balloons. American officials have repeatedly said that none of the videos or other material they have collected appears to be evidence of alien visitation.

It is hard to know how many unreleased documents exist in government archives. Intelligence agencies have said repeatedly that they have released the material they have. Their freedom of information offices are constantly deluged with requests for material on U.F.Os., only to be met with responses that the archives have been released.

Still, more recent work, particularly by the Pentagon, has not been made public, and the reticence of some government agencies to produce records has frustrated both Democratic and Republican lawmakers, Mr. Schumer’s staff members said.

For example, various Pentagon task forces have conducted extensive studies on videos taken by naval aviators and other military personnel that have remained secret. Some work on the videos has been released, including at a recent NASA meeting (see second article below). In some cases, officials believe disclosures could reveal the capability of classified optics and sensors. But in cases in which no formal conclusion has been reached, officials have been reluctant to share information on their deliberations or theories.

It is the reluctance to share all that is known about the incidents that are not completely understood that has fueled endless speculation on social media, in television specials and public debates.

The new legislation is modeled on the commission that oversaw the release of information about John F. Kennedy’s assassination. That legislation, passed in 1992, has been imperfect, and both the release and withholding of documents have continued through the Biden administration.

Still, the Kennedy assassination review board has forced the release of thousands of pages of documents, and lawmakers believe the approach could work here.

Under Mr. Schumer’s legislation, the president could decide to delay material the commission has chosen to release based on national security concerns. But the measure would establish a timetable to release documents and codify the presumption that the material should be public.

“You now will have a process through which we will declassify this material,” said Allison Biasotti, a spokeswoman for Mr. Schumer.

Government officials have repeatedly said they do not have the remains of a crashed alien spacecraft or any manufactured material of extraterrestrial origins.

Those assertions have been challenged by some former officials who believe the government is not divulging all that it knows. The legislation would likely force more details of the government’s study of unknown materials to be released, but it also gives the federal government the power to claim any crashed spaceships in private or corporate hands, however unlikely that such things exist.

Mr. Biden, unlike former President Barack Obama, has not directly addressed the issue of unidentified phenomena. But Mr. Biden did order two unknown objects and a Chinese spy balloon to be shot from the sky. Afterward, the president said that he would not apologize for shooting down the spy balloon and that the United States would continue to adapt its approach to dealing with unknown objects.

 

 

NASA meeting in May referenced in above article. Be sure to click video link in story below.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/31/us/politics/nasa-ufo-hearing.html

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NASA Panel Says Data Problems Make Explaining U.F.O.s Difficult

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Members of a NASA task force that studies unidentified anomalous phenomena, or U.A.P.s, said on Wednesday that they were pushing the government to collect better data to try to find answers for unexplained events that have captured the public’s imagination.

A Pentagon official speaking at the meeting said the Defense Department is examining more than 800 cases from the past 27 years, but only 2 to 5 percent of those incidents are considered truly unexplained. The numbers are an increase from 2022 and represent new information that the Federal Aviation Administration has given to the Pentagon as well as an uptick in reports after a Chinese spy balloon transited the United States.

Why It Matters: These phenomena have fascinated the public.
People are and always will be interested in space aliens, but these unexplained incidents are not extraterrestrial visitations — they are mostly drones, balloons and trash blowing in the winds.

“There is no conclusive evidence suggesting an extraterrestrial origin for U.A.P.s,” said Nadia Drake, a panel member and science journalist who has written in the past for The New York Times. “Collecting more good data from the scientific community to review in a peer-reviewed context will be important for progress to be made here.”

One reason data on these phenomena is so bad is that the military cameras, radar and other sensors that have collected videos are typically fine-tuned for other purposes, such as bomb targeting, rather than being designed to gather data necessary to identify nonhostile objects.

Many in the public are invested in the idea that some of the anomalous phenomena could be extraterrestrial. NASA officials said many panel members had been subjected to online harassment. Throughout the meeting, many commentators on NASA’s YouTube feed accused panel members of lying or covering up evidence of extraterrestrials.

Despite such hostility, the panel tried to explain some of the material that has fascinated the public. It used some (slightly tricky) high school geometry to explain how the object in one video taken by a Navy plane in 2015 known as “GOFAST” was not moving quickly but at just 40 miles per hour by illustrating how the vantage point on an object could be a visual trick.

Scott J. Kelly, a former astronaut, said that when flying, whether in air or space, optical illusions abound. When he was a F-14 Tomcat pilot, he said, the flight officer in the back seat thought he saw a U.F.O.

“I didn’t see it,” Mr. Kelly said. “We turned around. We went to go look at it. It turns out it was Bart Simpson, a balloon.”

Background: Many examples, most with explanations.
Many military videos of these phenomena appear interesting at first, but only later do ordinary explanations emerge.

Sean M. Kirkpatrick, the director of the Pentagon’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, presented a video recorded by a P-3 surveillance plane, which showed three dots that appeared to move back and forth. Further research found that the dots were three planes about 40 miles away waiting to land at an airport.

Mr. Kirkpatrick showed another video in which something remains unexplained, but which was an example of the kind of thing the U.S. military sees around the world. The video, recorded by a MQ-9 drone flying in the Middle East last year, appeared to show a silver orb. While some outside experts have said such objects appear to be stray weather balloons, Mr. Kirkpatrick said they have no further data and cannot yet come to a firm conclusion.

Throughout the public meeting, experts repeatedly emphasized that the data collected of almost all of the unexplained incidents was of low quality, and therefore it was difficult to reach any conclusions about many incidents.

What’s Next: The task force's report.
NASA will release a report of its task force by the end of July, making recommendations to the government. But it was clear from the panel discussion on Wednesday that improving data collection to quickly resolve unexplained or anomalous sightings will take time.

In the meantime, reports of U.F.O.s will continue to proliferate.

 

 

[Parliament 14022]

There are quite a few Congress members, of both sides, making a big deal of this.  July 26, 2023 might be the day we finally learn what's up.

 

[ztejas 42819]

5 minutes ago, Parliament said:

July 26, 2023 might be the day we finally learn what's up.

Like they'd actually release everything.

[Lord Melbourne 24]

It does seem that they’ve been priming the population for the release of something. Not sure when it will be, but I’m sure it will be for a purpose. They’re not just deciding to release stuff out of concern for the public. 

[Parliament 14022]

Somehow they're gonna use this to ask for more money.

[Hermanator 6697]

Don't get your hopes up. Congress isn't going to do shit about anything. What are they gonna do? Cut defense spending over UFOs? Yeah that'll go over well. 

They'll release some bullshit that furthers whatever the IC narrative is that gets us nowhere and Congress will puff their chests out and act like they accomplished something. 

[thunderlounge 7642]

8 minutes ago, Lord Melbourne said:

It does seem that they’ve been priming the population for the release of something. Not sure when it will be, but I’m sure it will be for a purpose. They’re not just deciding to release stuff out of concern for the public. 

Pretty much this, but on a broader scale. They’ve been priming the idea in society for decades.

Once society as a whole is more nonchalant about it all, and it won’t induce a widespread panic, then there may be some type of “official” release that something is out there.
 

Doesn’t mean we’ve met with them, or there will be some big saucer landing on the white house lawn. May just be confirmation of what most assume already. 

Part of this process are things like the UAP task force, and other “disclosures.” They aren’t really to disclose anything, but simply another small brick in the wall that is building to true disclosure somewhere a good bit down the road. 

But overall we’re talking extremely long game here, not some whim of some politicians.

[Lord Melbourne 24]

10 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Somehow they're gonna use this to ask for more money.

What better reason to print a bunch of money than some new nebulous threat from outer space? Who’s gonna fight that?

[Parliament 14022]

36 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:

Pretty much this, but on a broader scale. They’ve been priming the idea in society for decades.

Once society as a whole is more nonchalant about it all, and it won’t induce a widespread panic, then there may be some type of “official” release that something is out there.
 

Doesn’t mean we’ve met with them, or there will be some big saucer landing on the white house lawn. May just be confirmation of what most assume already. 

Part of this process are things like the UAP task force, and other “disclosures.” They aren’t really to disclose anything, but simply another small brick in the wall that is building to true disclosure somewhere a good bit down the road. 

But overall we’re talking extremely long game here, not some whim of some politicians.

Short of announcing that aliens have infiltrated our society, I think the biggest response to any disclosure will be all the cool memes and .gifs that come of it.

[thunderlounge 7642]

You mean like this?

[Rudiger 1148]

So should I go ahead and put on my tinfoil hat now?

[NeverMarryAStripper 21765]

[Jiggy-Z 3422]

21 hours ago, ztejas said:

Like they'd actually release everything.

This.

Any morsels they release will be of the unexplained variety or some cold war declassified spy shit.

The ramifications of alien contact or even existence disclosure would be world changing.

Surly might even add a new thread instead of just tagging onto this one.

[Hermanator 6697]

1 hour ago, Jiggy-Z said:

Surly might even add a new thread instead of just tagging onto this one.

And Stassney Horn would cry like a little bitch about it

[ztejas 42819]

2 hours ago, Jiggy-Z said:

This.

Any morsels they release will be of the unexplained variety or some cold war declassified spy shit.

The ramifications of alien contact or even existence disclosure would be world changing.

Surly might even add a new thread instead of just tagging onto this one.

Well... a lot of us wouldn't be surprised and it wouldn't change our world. Unless they disclosed shit that's never even been rumored (which would basically be impossible). 

The crowd that doesn't believe in any of it or (usually "and") has never looked into anything would be surprised. 

But I think the latter group is shrinking. 

[NeverMarryAStripper 21765]

I'll believe that aliens are here when they beam me up and stick a probe up my ass

[nineliveslost 2691]

2 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

I'll believe that aliens are here when they beam me up and stick a probe up my ass

sounds like wishful thinking . . . 

[956 Worldwide 34019]

“They” aren’t hiding aliens, “they”’ simply don’t want to publicize the extent that extremely terrestrial adversaries have successfully used pretty ordinary technology to get into sensitive U.S. airspace. 

[CHIEF 5045]

9 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

“They” aren’t hiding aliens, “they”’ simply don’t want to publicize the extent that extremely terrestrial adversaries have successfully used pretty ordinary to get into sensitive U.S. airspace. 

"Pretty ordinary" like, they are just hiding on the backside of Uranus?

CHIEF

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13485]

I saw Bigfoot once!

[PRONG HORN 3084]

4 hours ago, Jiggy-Z said:

 

The ramifications of alien contact or even existence disclosure would be world changing.

 

Yeah and the Jews/Muslims/Christians would shit their pants and probably contribute to destabilization.  They would be like the people at the party who can't handle their alcohol and end up doing something stupid.  

 

[ztejas 42819]

25 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

Yeah and the Jews/Muslims/Christians would shit their pants and probably contribute to destabilization.  They would be like the people at the party who can't handle their alcohol and end up doing something stupid.  

 

I don't think religion and aliens existing is incompatible. 

[Hermanator 6697]

27 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

Yeah and the Jews/Muslims/Christians would shit their pants and probably contribute to destabilization.  They would be like the people at the party who can't handle their alcohol and end up doing something stupid.  

 

No they would just say that God/Jesus/Allah created the universe so he also created those beings as well. 

Religion can always move the goalposts. That's why it's complete bullshit. Can't stand up to scrutiny. 

[PRONG HORN 3084]

1 minute ago, ztejas said:

I don't think religion and aliens existing is incompatible. 

 

What's more likely to be the truth about god? 

 

God lives in the sky and is invisible. 

God is a dude with a shit load of technology and flies a space ship.  

 

When those three religions realize god is a spaceman it's going to be hilarious.  

[ztejas 42819]

@Hermanator gets it.

If you don't think the Catholic Church already has a response loaded in the chamber you're kidding yourself. 

[PRONG HORN 3084]

3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

@Hermanator gets it.

If you don't think the Catholic Church already has a response loaded in the chamber you're kidding yourself. 

 

 

They aren't as prepared as you'd think.  The pope's only reply about all the kid rape in the church was "once again in history the church is being tested".  That's the only direct quote about the issue that the pope has ever said.  

 

[JMFP 1113]

5 minutes ago, ztejas said:

@Hermanator gets it.

If you don't think the Catholic Church already has a response loaded in the chamber you're kidding yourself. 

They already addressed it:

 

https://catholicreview.org/vatican-astronomer-says-if-aliens-exist-they-may-not-need-redemption/

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May 22, 2008

Jesuit Father Jose Funes, director of the Vatican Observatory, said Christians should consider alien life as an “extraterrestrial brother” and a part of God’s creation...

 

 

“This is not in contrast with the faith, because we cannot place limits on the creative freedom of God,” he said.

“To use St. Francis’ words, if we consider earthly creatures as ‘brothers’ and ‘sisters,’ why can’t we also speak of an ‘extraterrestrial brother?’“ he said.

Asked about implications that the discovery of alien life might pose for Christian redemption, Father Funes cited the Gospel parable of the shepherd who left his flock of 99 sheep in order to search for the one that was lost.

 

 

 

[ztejas 42819]

12 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

They aren't as prepared as you'd think.  The pope's only reply about all the kid rape in the church was "once again in history the church is being tested".  That's the only direct quote about the issue that the pope has ever said.  

 

Shit, dude. I think alien existence is way less problematic than longstanding institutional pedophilia. 

Maybe it isn't. Just my .02.

[JMFP 1113]

If these whistleblowers are right and we do actually have a flying saucer that we've reverse engineered, the biggest uproar won't be from the churches. It will be from the people wanting to know why we're still burning coal and oil. That's the conspiracy theory anyway.

[CHIEF 5045]

30 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

No they would just say that God/Jesus/Allah created the universe so he also created those beings as well. 

Religion can always move the goalposts. That's why it's complete bullshit. Can't stand up to scrutiny. 

I don't struggle with faith, but I am sometimes curious about others belief, and how they explain their belief in God. I certainly believe in evolution, life on other planets, and look at intellectual and scientific debates between apologists and atheists. I believe there are many more atheists that have become believers, then believers that have become atheists, in the scientific and intellectual community. Those of you that think all Christians just believe in "a man floating in the clouds" are either disingenuous, or just plain stupid. Listen to Frank Turek, or John Maddox (an Oxford mathematician) and draw this conclusion. They have debates on many of your issues. I urge you to go down this rabbit hole, as I have done. 

CHIEF

[ztejas 42819]

30 minutes ago, JMFP said:

If these whistleblowers are right and we do actually have a flying saucer that we've reverse engineered, the biggest uproar won't be from the churches. It will be from the people wanting to know why we're still burning coal and oil. That's the conspiracy theory anyway.

Apparently it's really difficult to reverse engineer their tech. It's a lot more advanced than ours. 

[NeverMarryAStripper 21765]

How advanced can it be if they keep crashing on our planet?

[ztejas 42819]

27 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

How advanced can it be if they keep crashing on our planet?

Million dollar question right there. 

They have crashed here. It's happened. Not just in the US, either. Anyone that's done enough research would be insane to believe otherwise. 

So you're left with questions like: they can supposedly travel FTL across galaxies but they eat shit trying to wheel around Earth. 

I mean, maybe we have a different signature than they do across all kinds of frequencies. 

I don't think that their tech is so advanced that a lightning storm doesn't fuck their shit up. 

Some of y'all need to really open your mind up. 

[ztejas 42819]

The US Gov or some alternate, shadow branch is absolutely in possession of alien tech that has crashed here. 

How soon that shit is going to be publicized I'm not sure but it's going to come out. A lot of you that are certain that it couldn't possibly exist are going to look stupid. 

[PRONG HORN 3084]

4 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Million dollar question right there. 

 

 

 

I would assume that they have never crashed here based on available sources.  We have seen things in the sky that we can't explain.  That's all.  There is zero evidence (video) of a crash anywhere.  

 

 

 

[ztejas 42819]

4 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

I would assume that they have never crashed here based on available sources.  We have seen things in the sky that we can't explain.  That's all.  There is zero evidence (video) of a crash anywhere.  

 

 

 

Go watch Moment of Contact. 

I mean seriously guys this shit is fucking everywhere for y'all to digest - go look into it. 

This isn't even some dumb conspiracy shit this is legitimate and it's happened here. We have multiple members of congress starting to question this. 

Edited July 22, 2023 by ztejas

[PRONG HORN 3084]

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Go watch Moment of Contact. 

 

 

Is it a visual source of a crash?  Or some people who saw something?

 

 

[ztejas 42819]

4 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

Is it a visual source of a crash?  Or some people who saw something?

 

 

You've obviously decided that you're going to be closed-minded about it so what's the point of replying to me? 

I'm sure this is just the Russians, though.

 

 

Edited July 22, 2023 by ztejas
Btw I'll fucking go all night. Let's have it.

[PRONG HORN 3084]

45 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Btw I'll fucking go all night. Let's have it.

 

 

Just show me a crash.  Search all night if you have too.  

 

 

[ztejas 42819]

17 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

Just show me a crash.  Search all night if you have too.  

 

 

Hey man you like your little comfortable bubble that's fine. I already gave you a doc to watch.

Btw it's to* not too*.

Edited July 22, 2023 by ztejas

[PRONG HORN 3084]

I think the aerial sightings are not man made in origin but all the crash talk is hype.  

[ztejas 42819]

33 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

I think the aerial sightings are not man made in origin but all the crash talk is hype.  

Dude. You're halfway there. Go watch the doc. 

For anyone interested, I'd say start with The Phenomenon then watch Moment of Contact. 

Edited July 22, 2023 by ztejas

[Parliament 14022]

9 hours ago, ztejas said:

 

They have crashed here. It's happened. Not just in the US, either. Anyone that's done enough research would be insane to believe otherwise. 

So you're left with questions like: they can supposedly travel FTL across galaxies but they eat shit trying to wheel around Earth. 

 

I'm gonna go ahead and say they don't have phasers and shields and photon torpedos and such.  Humans are (sadly) way more violent than any advanced species should be.   These aliens are peaceful and are visiting because they don't understand why we haven't destroyed ourselves.

What I'm saying is, when the aliens invade, I like our chances.  F22's and Second Amendment civilians are gonna stuff them back in Uraeus. 

9 hours ago, ztejas said:

The US Gov or some alternate, shadow branch is absolutely in possession of alien tech that has crashed here. 

 

Like this right here.  No way we coulda figured this out alone.  Come on.

 

[Brisketexan 103656]

All I know is that if THIS particular Congress decides to do a big “reveal” on UFOs and such, be prepared for them to put up a posterboard with a photoshop of Hunter Biden’s giant dong flying through space.
And I’m here for it.
Because otherwise, they ain’t gonna reveal shit.

[nineliveslost 2691]

10 hours ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

How advanced can it be if they keep crashing on our planet?

“Traveling through hyperspace ain’t like dusting crops, farm boy. Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova, and that’d end your trip real quick, wouldn’t it?”

[wild_turkey 3086]

I’m in the camp that thinks it’s statistically likely that intelligent life exists other places in the universe. Perhaps thousand (millions, I don’t even know how to quantify it?) of unique and separate civilizations exist or have existed in the history of the universe.

I think the likelihood that an alien life form has physically visited Earth is pretty low, but I think there’s at least a 50% chance that an alien species has sent unmanned drones to scout Earth, or perhaps some other surveying/monitoring technology that’s different from anything we use.

Thinking about it from a human perspective, it seems entirely possible that over the next 50-100 years we will begin sending large amounts of drones into the Milky Way galaxy, as our own technology advances. We will likely have pressure to explore in hopes of finding alternate habitable planets due to deteriorating conditions on Earth - climate change, disease, nuclear war, etc.

By extension, other alien species may face a similar existential threat on their own planets (part of the Fermi paradox), prompting them to explore the universe by whatever means possible. It seems logical to me that sending massive amounts of drones into the nearby universe is an effective means of exploration, much easier than manned space flight to unknown planets, and possibly some of those drones have reached Earth.

I sort of doubt there’s any imminent threat to humanity in all of this, because I suspect one of the following scenarios:
1. They have observed Earth and didn’t think our planet is useful to them and not worth their effort to actually come here.
2. They have observed Earth and decided visiting Earth is too risky due to them not fully understanding our capabilities, concern for our diseases, fear of our technology which is foreign to them.
3. Their ability to engage in manned interstellar travel lags hundreds or thousands of years behind their ability to perform unmanned surveillance.

[956 Worldwide 34019]

Here’s some really cool data on what star systems within 325 light years of us could have “seen” us within the time frame of the rise of civilization (5,000 years). It’s not as much as you think, it’s about 1,700 star systems. 

https://www.amnh.org/explore/news-blogs/research-posts/new-study-ids-nearby-star-systems-that-can-see-earth

Now, for nearly all of that time we would have been a silent planet, although any advanced species of life (as we understand it) looking for another place with life would have been intrigued by us.  Our radio signals have gone 200 light years into space would be very weak and indecipherable for much of that distance. 

Once you narrow down known exoplanets within that distance it gets small indeed. 75 star systems within about 75 light years and seven known exoplanets.  
 

So if we think that we’ve been visited, even by drones, intentionally and not randomly— these are very high odds indeed that life developed in one of these systems, that it evolved on a time frame to overlap with us and our civilization, and that we were “found” and the drones or whatever was sufficiently advanced to launch and visit us.
 

Even if you posit the big number- 1,700 star systems within the past 5000 years that could have even theoretically seen that we are a planet— the odds of one of those systems having a civilization that has the technology to note that we exist as a planet and the desire/tech to send something out….that’s pretty small when you think of all that happens to create life, let alone smart life, which has only existed on our plant for a nanosecond in geological time. 
 

And again, the physics of faster than light travel can’t be explained away with “because aliens”.  At the VERY fastest it would be close to that limit and almost certainly much slower. 
 

So to me the odds are just super high. The universe is a big place, and I do think there’s something else that thinks “out there.” It’s just that for all real purposes, the overwhelming vastness l of the universe is unseeable and inaccessible.