Brexit shenanigans

[Biff Tannen 45697]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

 

And surely they're not doing the same thing in America.  Surely not, no!

[Fudge Nuggets 19211]

On 11/8/2019 at 9:47 AM, relapse98 said:

The guest talks about how he thinks the pro-brexit stuff stems from GB being the center of the world at one time and they are aren't happy about that no longer being the case.

They have had 70 - 80 years to get over it. 

[elfenix 34331]

EU trade technocrat says Boris is full of shit:

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The prime minister has insisted that the United Kingdom will leave the EU in January next year and have time to secure a comprehensive free trade deal by the end of the transition period in December 2020. 

But Sabine Weyand, the EU's Director-General for Trade, said there was only time to negotiate a "bare-bones" deal with the UK next year, as the transition period will give negotiators less than 12 months of talks.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/eu-uk-will-only-be-given-bare-bones-trade-deal-after-brexit-2019-11

Edited November 19, 2019 by elfenix
why does this fucking thing not respect where i put quote tags

[Fudge Nuggets 19211]

1 hour ago, elfenix said:

the transition period will give negotiators less than 12 months of talks.

Plus the three fucking years they already had.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Thread bump because she is marvelous:

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13516]

Never heard this story that Boris won’t say how many children he has. It’s well know he has 4 with his ex-wife but reportedly has at least 1 more with an unknown woman. 

and as this story adds, he was very critical of unmarried mothers a couple of decades ago. 

 

[elfenix 34331]

 

nothing brits love more than a good queue

 

 

Edited December 12, 2019 by elfenix

[Js1 85473]

I love British elections they have the best constituency names 

[Brisketexan 105192]

24 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I love British elections they have the best constituency names 

They really do.

"Old Bexley and Sidcup"  Just solid.  "South Holland and The Deepings"

[406W30th 1111]

Me four years ago: eh, I'm not really into politics

Me today: Carmarthen East and Dinefwr's gone Labour?! Yes!

 

[Js1 85473]

Projected massive Labour losses. Corbyn has to go. 

[sidis 9832]

boris is going to have a giant majority.  january 31 brexit is on.

the brits have spoken.  and they will now live it.

[Patrick Bateman 3918]

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19211]

Good lord, they are as stupid as we are.

[Rougarou 594]

Corbyn is Elizabeth Warren without the brains and personality/charisma. So I guess you could say, a British Corbyn. Stiff upper lip and all.

[Brisketexan 105192]

1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Good lord, they are as stupid as we are.

The whole planet has a case of the stupids these days.

It's actually quite fascinating (I mean, it would be, if we didn't have to actually live through it).  Decades of unprecedented peace and prosperity.  Yes, some people got more than others, but across the board, humanity has had an incredible run since 1945.

Which apparently makes us, as a species, antsy.  Maybe we're too used to chaos/conflict/deprivation, and being without it makes us uncomfortable all in our biology, and we have to sabotage it? 

In short, humanity is Reese Bobby, and that nice family dinner at Applebee's has unnerved the hell out of us, and we need to pick a fight over onions on a steak and get tossed outta the joint....

[Brisketexan 105192]

15 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Projected massive Labour losses. Corbyn has to go. 

Corbyn is their Hillary, but worse.  He's a candidate so bad, the pathological liar buffoon can beat him.  He's an albatross around the neck of Labour.

[Js1 85473]

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Corbyn is their Hillary, but worse.  He's a candidate so bad, the pathological liar buffoon can beat him.  He's an albatross around the neck of Labour.

 

[Ghost of LL 15539]

While a Tory victory would not surprise anyone, I would issue the usual caveats that British exit polls are notoriously unreliable.

Truly--I don't know why they publish them.

[Js1 85473]

2 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

While a Tory victory would not surprise anyone, I would issue the usual caveats that British exit polls are notoriously unreliable.

Truly--I don't know why they publish them.

Yes they classify 65 seats as too close to call. 

[GSU&UT 1798]

11 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Corbyn is their Hillary, but worse.  He's a candidate so bad, the pathological liar buffoon can beat him.  He's an albatross around the neck of Labour.

I don't know if you paid attention, but Corbyn faced some of the most ill-intentiobed accusations of anti-Semitism that were basically nothing more than him standing up for Palestinians. It's not a shock that people bought into this garbage

[Js1 85473]

Just now, GSU&UT said:

I don't know if you paid attention, but Corbyn faced some of the most ill-intentiobed accusations of anti-Semitism that were basically nothing more than him standing up for Palestinians. It's not a shock that people bought into this garbage

Everyone knows if you have any sympathy for Palestine, you’re a Jew hater. /American GOP

[David Dennison 18944]

Ironically, this might be the beginning of the end for the United Kingdom as we know it. Scotland is itching to have another independence vote and Catholics will be a majority in Northern Ireland by 2021.

Good times.

Edited December 12, 2019 by David Dennison

[Brisketexan 105192]

3 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

I don't know if you paid attention, but Corbyn faced some of the most ill-intentiobed accusations of anti-Semitism that were basically nothing more than him standing up for Palestinians. It's not a shock that people bought into this garbage

Oh, there's no doubt that the Tory campaign was fraught with bad-faith bullshit and outright lies (dude, that's on-brand for "conservative" politics these days).  The hell of it is, they didn't need that to make Corbyn look like shit.  He's a repeated failure of a leader.  Labour is a mess.

Meanwhile, the Lib Dems....yeah, they just can't get any damned traction.

[Brisketexan 105192]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Ironically, this might be the beginning of the end for the United Kingdom as we know it. Scotland is itching to have another independence vote and Catholics will be a majority in Northern Ireland by 2021.

Good times.

Yep.

The UK is intent on drinking hemlock, just to "show them bastards!" Not sure who....exactly.....but, you know, "them."  

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Corbyn is their Hillary, but worse.  He's a candidate so bad, the pathological liar buffoon can beat him.  He's an albatross around the neck of Labour.

Best take I’ve seen so far.  Corbyn was a disaster.

[hornbri 1400]

I am in London tonight. This is fascinating to watch and listen to locals discuss at the pub. 

[Brisketexan 105192]

1 minute ago, hornbri said:

I am in London tonight. This is fascinating to watch and listen to locals discuss at the pub. 

I suspect it is.  Do share any juicy turns of phrase you hear from the locals.  Egg them on and solicit outrageous shit from them for our entertainment.  That's an order, not a request.

[GSU&UT 1798]

7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Oh, there's no doubt that the Tory campaign was fraught with bad-faith bullshit and outright lies (dude, that's on-brand for "conservative" politics these days).  The hell of it is, they didn't need that to make Corbyn look like shit.  He's a repeated failure of a leader.  Labour is a mess.

Meanwhile, the Lib Dems....yeah, they just can't get any damned traction.

It's not the Torries even, the UK media is a lot more right-wing and did very little to cover the election in a good-faith and fair way. Brexit may have still win overall, but they absolutely played a role in shaping the narrative.

[GRHorn 105]

Putin wins again 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

8 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

It's not the Torries even, the UK media is a lot more right-wing and did very little to cover the election in a good-faith and fair way. Brexit may have still win overall, but they absolutely played a role in shaping the narrative.

Yeah, that’s how fascism works. 

[GRHorn 105]

But seriously I know little of UK politics, but the people voted for Brexit a couple years. It seems to have stalled out since then. Their people have mandated it again.  Let them have it. I suspect things will be fine. 

[Lurch 5931]

I’m of the understanding they don’t know HOW to “have it”

[workswithseed 2109]

Poor Corbyn, the antisemite. 

[Biff Tannen 45697]

14 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

I suspect things will be fine. 

Mark that.

[GRHorn 105]

23 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

It's not the Torries even, the UK media is a lot more right-wing and did very little to cover the election in a good-faith and fair way. Brexit may have still win overall, but they absolutely played a role in shaping the narrative.

I had no idea that was the case. Interesting. I wonder why the difference compared to here?

16 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Yeah, that’s how fascism works. 

lol

[GRHorn 105]

11 minutes ago, Lurch said:

I’m of the understanding they don’t know HOW to “have it”

Yeah I don’t know all the specifics of why it hasn’t been done yet, but they’ve essentially voted for it twice now. 

[TwiceHorn 31517]

35 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yep.

The UK is intent on drinking hemlock, just to "show them bastards!" Not sure who....exactly.....but, you know, "them."  

The goddam frogs.  And the hun.  And the dirty Dutch.  That's who.  Those fuckers that buy all their shit.

[workswithseed 2109]

Why do y'all hate democracy?

[Biff Tannen 45697]

3 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Why do y'all hate democracy?

Why do you?

[Patrick Bateman 3918]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Andronicus50/status/1205246032910704640?s=08
 

 

[workswithseed 2109]

8 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Why do you?

Cause it has democra in it which is too close to Democrat.

[Homercles 10206]

Oh well...I think it’s asinine but guess we will find out over the next few years exactly how it impacts them.  

[TwiceHorn 31517]

These kinds of things do give one pause about pure democracy.

[workswithseed 2109]

3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

These kinds of things do give one pause about pure democracy.

That's why the electoral college is pretty good.

[Message Board User 12395]

2 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Good lord, they are as stupid as we are.

This should be a lesson for the Democrats in 2020, but won't be.

[Lurch 5931]

Yeah I don’t know all the specifics of why it hasn’t been done yet, but they’ve essentially voted for it twice now. 

Brexit isn’t on the ballot. The parties don’t neatly align w stay/go and brexit is not high priority for many.

So, no, they’ve not essentially voted for it twice

[Lurch 5931]

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

47 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

That's why the electoral college is pretty good.

You can have a republic and a democracy without the Electoral College.  You just let the person with the most votes win. 

[workswithseed 2109]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

You can have a republic and a democracy without the Electoral College.  You just let the person with the most votes win. 

How do you make sure that the mob doesn't rule?