Brexit shenanigans

[G650 14249]

1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

The finality of it all is coming. Stupid people voting and not fully comprehending what it fucking means. Nationalism is GREAT except when it inconveniences them, then it's the EUs fault.

https://i.redd.it/c8j3lmzwyz751.png

I love this so much.

[crash_davis 23107]

and the good news keeps coming...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/job-interviews-british-citizens-europe-brexit-a9593066.html?utm_source=reddit.com

Representatives of British in Europe, an umbrella organisation representing the 1.2 million British people living on the continent, said the loss of rights was “already real” for many people living abroad.

UK nationals have free movement in the EU until the end of the transition period in December this year, giving them the right to live work and study abroad.

But EU employers are anticipating the end of those right, which will make it harder for Britons to do some jobs that involve cross-border travel.

“We are seeing people refused interviews for jobs because those jobs require the freedom to travel across the EU,” Kalba Meadows, a steering group member of British in Europe who lives in France, told the EU Future Relationship Select Committee.

[Brisketexan 105094]

I mean, you want to say "look at those unintended consequences."

But the problem is, these were all known, predictable consequences, that were known and warned against over and over and over, but they still said "FUCK YOU!  NATIONALISM ROOLZ!"....and here they are griping about shit that was known, and they were warned about.  

Complete and total stupidity.  It is our brand as a species.

[FondrenRoad 4378]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

I mean, you want to say "look at those unintended consequences."

But the problem is, these were all known, predictable consequences, that were known and warned against over and over and over, but they still said "FUCK YOU!  NATIONALISM ROOLZ!"....and here they are griping about shit that was known, and they were warned about.  

Complete and total stupidity.  It is our brand as a species.

Actually, these are intended consequences.  They voted to Brexit specifically in order to prevent EU citizens from residing or working in the UK without a visa.  Given that, surely they didn't expect that UK citizens would be allowed to continue to reside and work in the EU without a visa.  These learned scholars of international relations must understand the meaning of reciprocity.

Just kidding.  "We didn't mean we wanted to ban all French people.  Just the brown ones.  Please let us continue to bring our fatasses to your Mediterranean town where we will refuse to even learn a lick of the local language and act put upon when the local baker doesn't speak English.  Oh, but we love the bakeries and the culture."

Of course they expected to continue doing whatever the fuck they wanted to in Europe while also telling EU citizens to pound sand.  They may be the only people more narcissistic than Americans when it comes to their place in the world.  "No you may not visit my country, but you should see it as an honor that I visit yours."  Just kidding on that too.  We are the worst.

[tx 3 putt 76905]

Elections have consequences 

[Chad Fuck 17669]

What are the chances a sizable portion of the “somewheres” voted Brexit just to keep the “anywheres” from trotting off to the continent for their fancy pants jobs?

I’m thinking it’s in the high 100s.

[crash_davis 23107]

36 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Actually, these are intended consequences.  They voted to Brexit specifically in order to prevent EU citizens from residing or working in the UK without a visa.  Given that, surely they didn't expect that UK citizens would be allowed to continue to reside and work in the EU without a visa.  These learned scholars of international relations must understand the meaning of reciprocity.

Just kidding.  "We didn't mean we wanted to ban all French people.  Just the brown ones.  Please let us continue to bring our fatasses to your Mediterranean town where we will refuse to even learn a lick of the local language and act put upon when the local baker doesn't speak English.  Oh, but we love the bakeries and the culture."

Of course they expected to continue doing whatever the fuck they wanted to in Europe while also telling EU citizens to pound sand.  They may be the only people more narcissistic than Americans when it comes to their place in the world.  "No you may not visit my country, but you should see it as an honor that I visit yours."  Just kidding on that too.  We are the worst.

nothing to add. just wanted to quote this again because it's beautiful.

[bolverk 29659]

There was a poll that just came out a few days ago showing a rise in support for staying in the EU among the Brits. Interestingly, most other countries across Europe also saw an increase in support.

Quick snippet:

Four years on from the UK's Brexit vote, a majority of British voters would now opt to remain inside the European Union, says new research.

According to the European Social Survey (ESS), a pan-European poll carried out every two years, 56.8% of respondents in the UK indicated that they would vote to remain inside the bloc, an increase from 49.9% the last time the survey was published in 2018. The most recent survey shows that of those questioned in the UK, 34.9% said they would vote to leave and 8.3% said they would not vote at all.

The findings -- shared exclusively with CNN -- come in the same week that marked the fourth anniversary of the 2016 referendum. The intervening years have seen the UK engage in divisive internal debate about precisely what form Brexit should take, complicated negotiations with Brussels on how the country would leave the bloc, and painful political deadlock that only ended on January 31 this year, when the UK finally left the EU.

The survey also reveals that support for the EU has grown broadly across the continent.

The latest survey of 26 countries, four of which are not member states, reveals an increase in support for EU membership, suggesting that speculation that other countries would quickly follow the UK to exit the union is possibly unfounded.

More:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/25/uk/uk-supports-eu-four-years-after-brexit-intl-gbr/index.html

[elfenix 34230]

guessing real estate in marbella is getting really cheap

[Biff Tannen 45673]

2 hours ago, bolverk said:

There was a poll that just came out a few days ago showing a rise in support for staying in the EU among the Brits. Interestingly, most other countries across Europe also saw an increase in support.

Quick snippet:

Four years on from the UK's Brexit vote, a majority of British voters would now opt to remain inside the European Union, says new research.

According to the European Social Survey (ESS), a pan-European poll carried out every two years, 56.8% of respondents in the UK indicated that they would vote to remain inside the bloc, an increase from 49.9% the last time the survey was published in 2018. The most recent survey shows that of those questioned in the UK, 34.9% said they would vote to leave and 8.3% said they would not vote at all.

The findings -- shared exclusively with CNN -- come in the same week that marked the fourth anniversary of the 2016 referendum. The intervening years have seen the UK engage in divisive internal debate about precisely what form Brexit should take, complicated negotiations with Brussels on how the country would leave the bloc, and painful political deadlock that only ended on January 31 this year, when the UK finally left the EU.

The survey also reveals that support for the EU has grown broadly across the continent.

The latest survey of 26 countries, four of which are not member states, reveals an increase in support for EU membership, suggesting that speculation that other countries would quickly follow the UK to exit the union is possibly unfounded.

More:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/25/uk/uk-supports-eu-four-years-after-brexit-intl-gbr/index.html

[RDCanecutter 26409]

2 hours ago, elfenix said:

guessing real estate in marbella is getting really cheap

Torremolinos Torremoliiiinos.

[hpslugga 4058]

8 hours ago, F250 said:

It didn't quite work out for Sinn Fein despite coming in first in the general election. A centrist coalition was formed and they were able to keep Sinn Fein out of leadership with the appointment of Michael Martin as Prime Minister (Taoiseach). Sinn Fein is now the opposition party as of this weekend.

 

Well motherfucker

[F250 28766]

1 hour ago, hpslugga said:

Well motherfucker

Yeah, the parliamentary system is a trip.

[elfenix 34230]

2 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

Torremolinos Torremoliiiinos.

costa ingles

[F250 28766]

2 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

Torremolinos Torremoliiiinos.

I am down for moving there. The only downside was all the British expats but Brexit should clear a lot of them out.

As a young man I was propositioned by a group of Scandinavian milfs for sexy time in Torremolinos. They were probably late 30's but that's ancient when you are young. Besides picking up chicks there is like shooting fish in a barrel. As an old man I feel like uncle Rico, "if only I could go back in time. I would slay all those milfs."

[F250 28766]

8 minutes ago, elfenix said:

costa ingles

Playa del ingles? I have family in Gran Canaria and there are definitely too many Brits in the area. Which is probably better than Italians because those fuckers always ruin the party.

 

[elfenix 34230]

1 minute ago, F250 said:

Playa del ingles? I have family in Gran Canaria and there are definitely too many Brits in the area. Which is probably better than Italians because those fuckers always ruin the party.

 

south med coast of spain (costa del sol) has a shit ton of englishmen.  they're not just sneaking out of gibraltar at night.  whole area should be renamed costa ingles. 

[F250 28766]

4 minutes ago, elfenix said:

south med coast of spain (costa del sol) has a shit ton of englishmen.  they're not just sneaking out of gibraltar at night.  whole area should be renamed costa ingles. 

Oh I hear you. They definitely overrun the place.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13510]

Not that they could have seen covid coming, but the U.K. is screwed.

gdp down 20%, largest of any major economy: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/12/economy/uk-economy-gdp/index.html

I can’t imagine that trade negotiations are going well for anyone at the moment but the Brits must be starting to panic which isn’t good for negotiations.

[bernorange 8359]

43 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

...I can’t imagine that trade negotiations are going well for anyone at the moment but the Brits must be starting to panic which isn’t good for negotiations.

Seems like negotiations are progressing in a business as usual fashion as far as I can tell...

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A post-Brexit trade deal between the UK and Japan may have met an unlikely obstacle - stilton cheese.

On Friday, the two sides said they hoped to agree the details of a post-Brexit trade agreement by the end of the month.

The Department for International Trade said talks are ongoing.

But progress has reportedly been blown off course after International Trade Secretary Liz Truss requested better terms for British blue cheeses.

The Financial Times, which first reported that talks had hit a snag, said Ms Truss may be looking for a symbolic victory, as sales of blue cheese to Japan from the UK were only £102,000 last year.
...

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53737388

 

[tx 3 putt 76905]

hmmm blue cheese, now i want some wings 

[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

On 8/12/2020 at 7:08 AM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

gdp down 20%, largest of any major economy: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/12/economy/uk-economy-gdp/index.html

I thought ours was down 30%, not 10% as stated in that article.

Did dotard make the Office of National Statistics revise it already?

[WhatTheBuck 28776]

On August 12, 2020 at 9:34 PM, tx 3 putt said:

hmmm blue cheese, now i want some wings 

Repped for proper dressing pairing with wings. 

[elfenix 34230]

On 8/13/2020 at 2:51 PM, Fudge Nuggets said:

I thought ours was down 30%, not 10% as stated in that article.

Did dotard make the Office of National Statistics revise it already?

10.6% isn't annualized.  the 2nd quarter the US was down 9.5% alone, which is the 30% annualized shrink:

 

https://www.bea.gov/news/2020/gross-domestic-product-2nd-quarter-2020-advance-estimate-and-annual-update

Edited August 14, 2020 by elfenix

[Ghost of LL 15531]

So the Government now wants to trash the Withdrawal Agreement, which the Tory manifesto said was "a good deal" and was "signed, sealed and delivered."  But to do so would violate not only a campaign promise, but also a binding international treaty.  

And now the House of Lords is saying that they're going to block any bill that revises the Withdrawal Agreement, on some sort of reverse-Salisbury theory.

Fucking wild.

[bernorange 8359]

Thread title holds up.

[elfenix 34230]

irish unification of 2024 is back on!

 

 

[bolverk 29659]

 

[HenryJames 66041]

The Brit idiots fucked around and found out.

[RDCanecutter 26409]

44 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

Why just a European nation? Darien/Panama is just sitting there, waiting to be swooped down on again.

[elfenix 34230]

 

[GopherRock 1765]

On top of that, Kent just became the trucker bomb capital of the Western world.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy8x77/this-corner-of-england-is-ground-zero-for-brexit-chaos-and-it-literally-reeks-of-piss

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For Tony Bessent, the daily reality is a reminder that reeks: he’s unable to work in his garden because of the overriding smell of urine. “They chuck two-litre Coke bottles full of piss straight onto the roadside,” says the 77-year-old retiree living on the outskirts of Dover in Kent, who voted Leave in the 2016 referendum. “I like to work on my garden and in my workshop. But you can really smell the fumes of it.”

 

[Biff Tannen 45673]

 

10 minutes ago, GopherRock said:

the 77-year-old retiree living on the outskirts of Dover in Kent, who voted Leave in the 2016 referendum

[Saint Tacky 1614]

59 minutes ago, GopherRock said:

On top of that, Kent just became the trucker bomb capital of the Western world.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy8x77/this-corner-of-england-is-ground-zero-for-brexit-chaos-and-it-literally-reeks-of-piss

 

Sounds like a great-gig that's ready and waiting for a recently fired football coach with an unnatural fetish for urine.

[Bozo_Casanova 26444]

 

[WBT 20561]

I want to be a sex arse tycoon when I grow up

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Those Texit people might want to think about their beautiful 401Ks.

 

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

 

 

 

[Brisketexan 105094]

The fucking around.

Always followed by the finding out.

[tx 3 putt 76905]

[workswithseed 2100]

On 12/25/2020 at 3:59 PM, bolverk said:

 

 

[Captainant 27647]

1 hour ago, workswithseed said:

 

/r/therightcantmeme

[bolverk 29659]

Time to bump this thread again.

Today, Scotland will hold elections for its devolved Parliament. While independence isn't directly on the ballot, many are watching to see how pro-Independence parties do and how that might portend for a future referendum on divorcing from their Anglo-Saxon neighbors to the south.

 

Scenes of Scotland, as It Weighs Its Future Within Britain

If the pro-independence vote surges in Thursday’s elections for the Scottish Parliament, momentum for an another referendum on independence may become unstoppable.

 

Spoiler

 

It has weathered the conquest and loss of an empire, survived two world wars and witnessed more than one deadly pandemic. But now Scotland’s ancient alliance with England is itself in poor health, and on Thursday it could take a serious turn for the worse.

When Scottish voters go to the polls to elect 129 members of Scotland’s Parliament, strictly speaking the question of independence will not be on the ballot.

Yet as these photos vividly illustrate, Scotland is grappling with an uncertain future. Pressure is growing for a second referendum on whether to leave the United Kingdom, breaking up a 314-year-old union. If Scots vote in sufficient numbers for pro-independence parties in Thursday’s election, the momentum for another plebiscite could become unstoppable.

An electronic billboard featuring Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland’s first minister and the leader of the pro-independence Scottish National Party.
 

Pro Union supporters gathered on one side of George Square in Glasgow as Scottish independence supporters held a rally on the other end. 
 

The remains of a ship scuttled in World War I to block the entrance to the main British naval base at Scapa Flow in the Orkney Islands in far northeastern Scotland to defend against German submarines.
 

The end of the union with England is no foregone conclusion, for as these images show, Scotland is divided both over its future and the prospect of another polarizing vote on independence.

Some are simply weary of the upheaval wrought by years of constitutional wrangling over an issue that divides families and friends as much as it does politicians.

Political parties that favor the union argue that given the economic damage inflicted by the Covid-19 pandemic, it would be pure self-indulgence to embark now on another toxic independence debate, widely known as “indyref2.”

After all, the question was supposed to have been settled for a generation in 2014 when 55 percent of Scots who voted in a referendum opted to preserve their union with England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

But Brexit changed the calculus. In the 2016 referendum, 62 percent of Scottish voters who took part opposed leaving the European Union, only to be outnumbered by their compatriots in England and Wales and wrenched, unwillingly, out of the trading bloc. That reinvigorated Scotland’s independence movement and called the country’s constitutional future once again into question.

 

An abandoned caravan on the nebulous border between England and Scotland.
 

The River Tweed forms part of the border between Scotland and England. On the right is England.
 

Much of the border between England and Scotland is virtually undetectable. That would change if Scotland gained independence.
 

But Scotland’s politics had been diverging from those of the rest of Britain for much longer. The majority of Scots have voted against the Conservatives in every general election for decades, yet they were powerless to prevent the party from taking power in eight of the 11 contests since 1979.

Brexit has reminded Scots that no matter how they cast their ballots, they are just 8 percent of Britain’s population and are easily outvoted by their neighbors to the south. The embrace of Brexit by Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Conservatives reinforced that message.

Mr. Johnson not only proceeded with Brexit, but also brushed aside Scottish calls to keep close ties to the European Union and opted instead for a bare-bones trade deal with the bloc that has caused significant disruption.

Among the sectors worst hit by Britain’s departure from the European Union’s giant single market is the Scottish seafood industry. Many people in fishing communities like Peterhead bucked the trend in Scotland and voted for Brexit, lured by the promise of a “sea of opportunities” for their industry outside the European Union’s fisheries rules.

The reality has been a mountain of red tape hampering exports to the continent, leaving shellfish catches spoiled and boats tied up in harbors.

Both sides of the debate see lessons in that. The pro-independence Scottish National Party, led by the first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, points to the economic damage and says she would aim to rejoin the European Union after breaking away from England. In so doing Scotland could make a success of independence like other small nations like Ireland, which took that step a century ago.

Many of Scotland’s fishing areas, like the port of Fraserburgh, shown here, voted for Brexit, thinking it would free them from E.U. rules. Instead, they lost markets, and many are facing ruin.
 

Fishermen loading boxes onto their vessel before heading out to catch cod and haddock. 
 

Boats operating out of Peterhead boast the largest catch in the United Kingdom, with Fraserburgh second. Most of Britain’s fishing quota is landed by boats from Scottish ports.
 

Her critics say that this would pile more economic misery on top of Brexit by destroying the common economic market with England, easily Scotland’s biggest trading partner. It would probably also mean a physical trade border between England and Scotland, a frontier that is in some places hard even to spot.

Nonetheless, the 2016 Brexit referendum showed that appeals to emotion can trump those to the wallet. In Scotland, identity issues have grown within a proud nation that always maintained a separate, some would say superior, legal and educational system.

Ms. Sturgeon’s S.N.P. is aiming for a rare overall majority in the Scottish Parliament to justify her calls for a second independence referendum. Failing that, she hopes that votes for other pro-independence parties, especially the Greens, will be enough to bolster her case.

A rally for Scottish independence in George Square in Glasgow.
 

Roza Salih, right, a Scottish National Party candidate who arrived in Scotland in 2002 as an Iraqi Kurd refugee and had to fight deportation, campaigning in Glasgow. 
 

Alex Salmond, the onetime mentor to Ms. Sturgeon, is now her bitter rival. He has formed a breakaway independence party called Alba, but it does not seem to be gaining much traction.
 

Support for independence in opinion polls peaked last year at above 50 percent while Ms. Sturgeon’s handling of the pandemic looked sure-footed at a time when Mr. Johnson’s seemed chaotic.

But the successful rollout the Covid-19 vaccines — for which Mr. Johnson can take credit — has coincided with a slight dip in Ms. Sturgeon’s fortunes. Also campaigning in Thursday election is Alex Salmond, a veteran of the pro-independence cause but now a sworn enemy of Ms. Sturgeon who was once his protégé. The two politicians fell out over Ms. Sturgeon’s role in a bungled investigation into accusations against Mr. Salmond of sexual misconduct.

After months of feuding with her former mentor, Ms. Sturgeon survived a damaging crisis, but Mr. Salmond has formed a new pro-independence party, Alba.

Kenny Horne, right, head gamekeeper at Teasses Estate in Fife, with his assistant in the early morning. The Teasses Estate organizes pheasant, duck and partridge shoots as well as deer stalking, skeet shooting and fishing trips. 
 

Casks of whiskey at the Highland Park distillery on the outskirts of Kirkwall, Scotland. It is the northernmost distillery in the United Kingdom and has been in operation since 1798.
 

Laying new rope in a mussel farm on Loch Eil, near Fort William. The Scottish shellfish industry has been thrown into chaos by Brexit, which has closed off their former markets in the European Union.
 

There are domestic issues at stake, too, and after 14 years in power in Edinburgh, the S.N.P. has many critics in Scotland. In televised debates, Ms. Sturgeon has been forced to defend her record on everything ranging from educational achievement to Scotland’s poor record on drug deaths.

In the Shetland Islands, some voters feel as remote from Ms. Sturgeon’s government in Edinburgh as from Mr. Johnson’s in London, and there is even talk of the islands opting for independence from Scotland.

On the mainland the mood is uncertainty. For Ms. Sturgeon tough questions lie ahead about whether an independent Scotland could afford the sort of social policies she favors without the support of taxpayers in England or their central bank.

A Union flag in the harbour at Lerwick. With a population of around 7,000, Lerwick is the biggest town in the Shetland Islands, which have a total population of around 22,000.
 

The massive Ninian Northern oil drilling platform, formerly stationed in the North Sea, being decommissioned in the Shetland Islands. There has been some talk of the islands opting for independence from Scotland.
 

 A man waiting in the bus station at Kirkwall, the main town in the Orkney islands.
 

Noticeably absent from these photos is Mr. Johnson, who has stayed away from Scotland, knowing that his presence would probably undercut the Conservative Party’s pitch to preserve the union. Educated at Britain’s most famous high school, Eton College, and then Oxford University, Mr. Johnson’s cultivated English upper-class persona tends to grate on Scottish voters.

Despite his absence the stakes are high for Mr. Johnson. The loss of Scotland would deprive the United Kingdom of about a third of its landmass and significant international prestige.

Mussel farmers from Fassfern. As the overwhelming majority of Scotland’s mussels were sent to the E.U., the industry has been devastated by Brexit.
 

Environmental activists blockading the north gate at Faslane, the Royal Navy’s principal naval base in Scotland, to protest the stationing of Trident nuclear submarines there.
 

The Scottish capital, Edinburgh. 
 

It would also likely mean the closure of the Faslane nuclear submarine base that the S.N.P. opposes, believing its location makes the nearby city of Glasgow a military target.

Were Mr. Johnson to lose a Scottish independence referendum, he would probably have to resign, and his strategy so far has simply been to reject calls for one. For a plebiscite to be legally binding, an agreement almost certainly would have to first be struck with London, and the prime minister can continue to stonewall for some time.

But whatever the law, it’s hard to say no indefinitely. And a centuries-old union could face its greatest test if a majority in Scotland, which joined voluntarily with England in 1707, thinks now is the time to think again.

Oil supply ships anchored off the city of Aberdeen, the center of Britain’s North Sea oil and gas industry. 

 

 

[crash_davis 23107]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-wiltshire-57987601

You mean companies and jobs are leaving due to higher tariffs caused by Brexit? Who could've seen that happening?

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In Tokyo, Honda executives denied the decision had anything to with Brexit but it came as the British government was in deadlock over whether to stay in the European Single Market or leave, and risk 10% export tariffs on sales to the EU.

 

Prof Graves is convinced Brexit played a crucial part.

He said: "The Swindon factory was world-class but because we chose to pull out of Europe, which was the most important market to Honda, they chose to stick with America and Japan.

 

"Brexit was the straw that broke the camel's back."

 

[Captainant 27647]

9 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-wiltshire-57987601

You mean companies and jobs are leaving due to higher tariffs caused by Brexit? Who could've seen that happening?

 

 

[Biff Tannen 45673]

Never thought they would eat MY face!

[HenryJames 66041]

 

[Blotto 23497]

that lady's reaction throughout that episode is great.

[HenryJames 66041]

[kevwun 15773]

I'd rather my perfect hair, makeup and clothing get ruined by the rain than share an umbrella with you.