2021 Houston Astros Thread

[Starfleet Command 441]

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

oh, we're definitely going to lose.

but your very specific reasoning doesn't really take into account the fact that they played 6 games against ~playoff teams in their last 35 while we stacked up games against the rays (3), a's (6), m's (6), and padres (3).

also you can start not including greinke in your "argument", unless you also want to include verlander, who should see an equal amount of meaningful time this series.

We’re talking about hundreds of innings combined between these two teams over that time span. I guarantee the variance in offensive talent over a sample that large is less than 10% while the difference in results are substantially larger than 10%. It’s just silly to argue that they don’t have a marked advantage there.  
 

On the other hand we hit and field better than they do, which is hardly nothing and could also be the difference in the series. 

[henrygandorf 29199]

1 minute ago, Starfleet Command said:

We’re talking about hundreds of innings combined between these two teams over that time span. I guarantee the variance in offensive talent over a sample that large is less than 10% while the difference in results are substantially larger than 10%. It’s just silly to argue that they don’t have a marked advantage there.  
 

On the other hand we hit and field better than they do, which is hardly nothing and could also be the difference in the series. 

apologies if i don't consider lance lynn to be elite.  he's been good not great since june 1.  before that he was really nasty.  kopech, kimbrel and other pieces have been touch and go.  their staff scared me a lot more right after the deadline.

[runthebone 8134]

Cross them off, then.

[Gourmand 7775]

49 minutes ago, Starfleet Command said:

On the other hand we hit and field better than they do, which is hardly nothing and could also be the difference in the series. 

You're also ignoring the obvious and unquantifiable advantage of postseason experience. How many postseason games have White Sox players experienced vs the Astros roster?

[UTexasFight 9607]

This whole comparison of Sox starters vs Astros starters ignores one minor fact: our starters don’t have to face Altuve, Bregman, Alvarez, Correa, Brantley, Gurriel, Tucker.

No offense to the White Sox starters, but I’m just not going to lose any sleep facing anyone when we have that lineup

[Starfleet Command 441]

9 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

You're also ignoring the obvious and unquantifiable advantage of postseason experience. How many postseason games have White Sox players experienced vs the Astros roster?

I'm not a big believer in that mattering much.  If you think postseason experience is so material, then maybe we should start Greinke in game three or four?  He has more experience than anyone on the roster.  How much post-season experience did Framber have last year when he was by-far our best post-season pitcher?  

[Gourmand 7775]

6 minutes ago, Starfleet Command said:

I'm not a big believer in that mattering much.  If you think postseason experience is so material, then maybe we should start Greinke in game three or four?  He has more experience than anyone on the roster.  How much post-season experience did Framber have last year when he was by-far our best post-season pitcher?  

They were 3-7 vs Oakland last year and then wiped them out in the divisional series. You think playoff experience didn't matter then?

Edited October 6, 2021 by Gourmand

[Honeysucklerose 996]

Does anyone have 2 extra tickets to fridays game I can buy?

Sorry, I didn’t notice Friday. I gave extra to thursday

[Starfleet Command 441]

5 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

They were 3-7 vs Oakland last year and then wiped them out in the divisional series. You think playoff experience didn't matter then?

No. I think they were playing far below their talent level for that 60 game season and their playoff run was more akin to how they should have been playing the entire season. 

[Gourmand 7775]

4 minutes ago, Starfleet Command said:

No. I think they were playing far below their talent level for that 60 game season and their playoff run was more akin to how they should have been playing the entire season. 

Funny that you say that because I think the 2021 Astros played far below their talent level and should have won 100+ games considering the effect of injuries to the core of the lineup and their results against inferior teams earlier in the season.

Edited October 6, 2021 by Gourmand

[runthebone 8134]

This is pretty weird...it's an odd numbered year, and we're not eliminating the Yankees from the playoffs?

[henrygandorf 29199]

3 hours ago, Gourmand said:

They were 3-7 vs Oakland last year and then wiped them out in the divisional series. You think playoff experience didn't matter then?

seemed to matter in 2015 too. 

[YChang 3472]

So the Stros are doomed?

[tx 3 putt 77928]

47 minutes ago, YChang said:

So the Stros are doomed?

start the off-season thread !!!!

[kevwun 15943]

I vote Winter of our Discontent for the off-season thread title.

Edited October 6, 2021 by kevwun

[UTPhil2006 3828]

Who else is going tomorrow?

[WBT 20744]

So I was reading the fangraphs chat from the game last night and came across this:

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Kevin Goldstein: There definitely was. We talked a lot about how there’s the measurement you have to make at the time about the runner and the thrower(s), but you have to add in a variable for chances to execute. I brought this up early, but in the 2017 ALCS, it was an auto-send on anything close because Gary Sanchez can’t catch the baseball.

lulz

A chatter asked him about Pettis as a 3rd base coach after the terrible send by Nevin last night.

Edited October 6, 2021 by WBT

[tx 3 putt 77928]

im a fan of making the other make a play and knowing your scouting

 

 

 

[Guadaloopy 11039]

1 hour ago, YChang said:

So the Stros are doomed?

[Gourmand 7775]

 

[Gourmand 7775]

This goes out to all you Dusty-bashing reactionaries.....

 

https://twitter.com/SportsTalk790/status/1445811194460213250

[tx 3 putt 77928]

That clubhouse loves Dusty, it’s well known 

Edited October 6, 2021 by tx 3 putt

[kevwun 15943]

They'll keep Dusty around so they can scapegoat him next season.

[elfenix 34385]

Abreu potentially out game 1 with flu like symptoms. Has tested negative for covid.

[TonyTexas 10569]

 

[UTexasFight 9607]

I like our Lance more than their Lance 

[IDIOTsavant 8522]

It's a Lance off!

 

 

 

I'll see my way out. Please don't remove me from the ticket drawing Wulaw Horn.

[Scraps 13598]

Need lance z and berkman on the broadcast

[Starfleet Command 441]

I think they should have gone with Giolito first to max out his innings this series.  This team hits pitchers who are reliant on their fastball pretty well.

[HtownHorn 14923]

The Astros have killed Lynn in MMP. Interesting choice to go with him Game 1. But I do understand considering he's their only starter with post season experience that will start in this series. Unless Rodon can't go and they start Keuchel.

[runthebone 8134]

3 hours ago, kevwun said:

They'll keep Dusty around so they can scapegoat him next season.

Dusty is riding off into the sunset a World Series winner, my friend.*

 

 

* except the Astros are apparently doomed against the White Sox

[tx 3 putt 77928]

Maybe they won’t show up ?

[Guadaloopy 11039]

Look… I understand the need for some of us to temper our expectations so that we don’t have to experience a full measurement of disappointment if things don’t go the way we hope.  But this team has earned your confidence.  If you aren’t willing to show it, go ahead and jump off the bandwagon now.  You don’t deserve to revel in the glory when it comes.  
 

Astros in 4 and then we get revenge on the Rays for last year in 6.     
 

Then the boys win one for Carlos, Dusty, and Greinke on the big stage against whoever comes out of the NL.  

[runthebone 8134]

2 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

Look… I understand the need for some of us to temper our expectations so that we don’t have to experience a full measurement of disappointment if things don’t go the way we hope.  But this team has earned your confidence.  If you aren’t willing to show it, go ahead and jump off the bandwagon now.  You don’t deserve to revel in the glory when it comes.  
 

Astros in 4 and then we get revenge on the Rays for last year in 6.     
 

Then the boys win one for Carlos, Dusty, and Greinke on the big stage against whoever comes out of the NL.  

Then Crane says fuck it, it's only money, resigns Correa, and we win four more in a row with Whitley getting 3 Cy Youngs.

[Guadaloopy 11039]

Just now, runthebone said:

Then Crane says fuck it, it's only money, resigns Correa, and we win four more in a row with Whitley getting 3 Cy Youngs.

[Texas St. Armadillos 1381]

3 minutes ago, runthebone said:

Then Crane says fuck it, it's only money, resigns Correa, and we win four more in a row with Whitley getting 3 Cy Youngs.

I'll have what he's having. 

[runthebone 8134]

7 minutes ago, Texas St. Armadillos said:

I'll have what he's having. 

I hope Whitley is rubbing it on his elbow every night.  It's good for that, too.

[Guadaloopy 11039]

1 hour ago, runthebone said:

Then Crane says fuck it, it's only money, resigns Correa, and we win four more in a row with Whitley getting 3 Cy Youngs.

You forgot Correa and Tucker’s back to back MVP seasons.  

[Mez2 4036]

2 hours ago, runthebone said:

Then Crane says fuck it, it's only money, resigns Correa, and we win four more in a row with Whitley getting 3 Cy Youngs.

This guy fucks

[henrygandorf 29199]

5 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

Look… I understand the need for some of us to temper our expectations so that we don’t have to experience a full measurement of disappointment if things don’t go the way we hope.  But this team has earned your confidence.  If you aren’t willing to show it, go ahead and jump off the bandwagon now.  You don’t deserve to revel in the glory when it comes.  
 

Astros in 4 and then we get revenge on the Rays for last year in 6.     
 

Then the boys win one for Carlos, Dusty, and Greinke on the big stage against whoever comes out of the NL.  

for me it’s more about tempting fate and angering the baseball gods. i am definitely a little stitious. 

[runthebone 8134]

Well, it would have been funny for the Dodgers to lose, but fuck you, St. Louis.

[Starfleet Command 441]

6 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

Look… I understand the need for some of us to temper our expectations so that we don’t have to experience a full measurement of disappointment if things don’t go the way we hope.  But this team has earned your confidence.  If you aren’t willing to show it, go ahead and jump off the bandwagon now.  You don’t deserve to revel in the glory when it comes.  
 

Astros in 4 and then we get revenge on the Rays for last year in 6.     
 

Then the boys win one for Carlos, Dusty, and Greinke on the big stage against whoever comes out of the NL.  

I think the Sox will be a bigger hurdle than the Rays, if we face them.  Hopefully Lance has it tomorrow as being down 0-1 facing Giolito will be tough. 

[henrygandorf 29199]

i hope the sox even show up for game 2 after the embarrassing ass-whipping they will receive tomorrow. they may just concede. 

[BornOrange 1441]

Today is the day.

Let the ass-whipping commence.

[Scraps 13598]

Is it 3pm yet?

[Telegraph_it 3371]

3 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Is it 3pm yet?

In Paris? Yes. 

[Chuckie Finster 22763]

What replaced r/mlbstreams for those of us not in front of a TV?  Trying to prevent a mad scramble at 2:59.

[kevwun 15943]

Use mlb66.ir

It's much better than reddit ever was.

 

Edited October 7, 2021 by kevwun

[TonyTexas 10569]

7 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Use mlb66.ir

It's much better than reddit ever was.

 

Word. They also operate NFL5.ir, NHL66.ir and NBA3000.ir. Best sports streaming site out there. 

[kevwun 15943]

They have a Youtube channel you can subscribe to so that you can find out their new URL if they ever have to move also.