2021 Houston Astros Thread

[rvm96 1643]

 

36 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

Nah they've all moved on to Maton and Graveman

I'm a Moton truther so we'll see how that goes

[Gourmand 7774]

 

Machete is the man.

[runthebone 8013]

6 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

 

Machete is the man.

The photographer is really interrupting a beautiful moment there...

 

"It's time to put your balls back on."

[Saint Tacky 1614]

2/11

[Pimphand 5764]

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

Cf’M dealing in Milwaukee 

I think ATL is proper fucked having lost this game. I still dislike the Braves from the 90s but I dislike Bud Selig way more.

Oh well Go Giants at this point.

[Harrison Stafford 3335]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

what's your cable provider and the toll free number to their cancellation dept? 

also your full name and ss#.

Sorry.  I do record the games and watch them after the fact.

Bond.  James Bond. ss# 000-000-007.

[henrygandorf 29192]

does anyone have a gif of correa waiting for altuve so they could do their routine before allowing tucker and everyone else through to continue doing theirs?

tell me that’s a guy looking to leave this team. i want to believe. 

[Pimphand 5764]

I didn't think the issue was Correa looking to leave as much as Crane/Click not making a big enough offer.

[Guadaloopy 10973]

11 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

I didn't think the issue was Correa looking to leave as much as Crane/Click not making a big enough offer.

Yep.  I think Carlos has given pretty clear signals that if the Astros are competitive with their offer, he stays an Astro.  

[Gourmand 7774]

[David Dennison 18922]

12 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Yep.  I think Carlos has given pretty clear signals that if the Astros are competitive with their offer, he stays an Astro.  

A competitive offer being 10 years, $300 million.

Edited October 9, 2021 by David Dennison

[Guadaloopy 10973]

McHugh struggling and letting the Red Sox back in the game.   Was rooting for him to do well tonight.  

[Js1 85413]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

A competitive offer being 10 years, $300 million.

Yes, a competitive offer for Carlos and a competitive offer to the front office are on 2 different continents right now 

[tx 3 putt 77070]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

A competitive offer being 10 years, $300 million.

 
per radio talk, and someone claiming to have some info - the team correa plan is to break the bank. Lindor+ 

[David Dennison 18922]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Yes, a competitive offer for Carlos and a competitive offer to the front office are on 2 different continents right now 

It's a real shame. They are going to offer five years because reasons and I'm going to be sad.

[Gourmand 7774]

I didn't think the issue was Correa looking to leave as much as Crane/Click not making a big enough offer.

I think it's bigger than just money, it's the opportunity to not be vilified by every fanbase outside of Houston and enjoying the process of being pursued by multiple suitors. Money is definitely a huge part of it but Correa has been looking forward to this opportunity for years.

He gone.

[Spoetzl 181]

If he wants and can get 10 years, then great, do it.  He will not get it as an Astro.  And that is ok.

[Fudge Nuggets 19206]

Fuck it, see if we can scam the Pirates again and trade for Oneil Cruz as his replacement if Carlos leaves.

Edited October 9, 2021 by Fudge Nuggets

[henrygandorf 29192]

36 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

It's a real shame. They are going to offer five years because reasons and I'm going to be sad.

maybe 5-200 gets it done.

[runthebone 8013]

16 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

maybe 5-200 gets it done.

That's what I was thinking.  Maybe.

[henrygandorf 29192]

if we win the world series i don't care who leaves.

[Guadaloopy 10973]

3 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

if we win the world series i don't care who leaves.

[WBT 20616]

Sox-Rays headed to a split and 9 combined pitchers so far tonight.

[Gourmand 7774]

We will know how serious Crane is about signing Correa within the first five days after we win the World Series because that is the time frame for a team to make a qualifying offer to its free agents. That is another reason I am extremely skeptical about Correa returning because Click doesn't want to be in a situation where his player's intent is truly unknown because that costs the opportunity to get a compensatory pick in return. The team will either make a serious, big-money offer with the understanding that he will take it, or they're going to make him a QO which he will reject. The emotional theatrics we saw in the last regular season game weren't just performative, they were a blinking sign that's he's taking his talents elsewhere.

[tx 3 putt 77070]

i wonder if sunday turns into a garcia / grienke combo start ?

[TonyTexas 10516]

.^^^
Gourmand is drunk. It’s an absolute that CC gets a QO. That’s purely a administrative move. 

[Gourmand 7774]

1 minute ago, TonyTexas said:

.^^^
Gourmand is drunk. It’s an absolute that CC gets a QO. That’s purely a administrative move. 

I was under the impression it was an either/or proposition for the team making the QO. That's good to know.

[TonyTexas 10516]

Just now, Gourmand said:

I was under the impression it was an either/or proposition for the team making the QO. That's good to know.

Making a QO doesn’t stop negotiations. It only means that if he signs elsewhere, the Astros get the compensatory draft pick. 

[UTexasFight 9499]

Does the strike change anything on negotiations? Or at least delay it?

or nah?

figure the high end FAs gonna get paid no matter what. 

 

Edited October 9, 2021 by UTexasFight

[Guadaloopy 10973]

3 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

.^^^
Gourmand is drunk. It’s an absolute that CC gets a QO. That’s purely a administrative move. 

Sure… but only once since the QO began has a player rejected a QO and then signed with the original team. Mike Moustakas.  Correa’s situation is nothing like that.  A QO would be a smart move if the Astros don’t plan to be competitive in the Correa market, but a terrible signal if they really intend to sign him.  

[Gourmand 7774]

1 minute ago, TonyTexas said:

Making a QO doesn’t stop negotiations. It only means that if he signs elsewhere, the Astros get the compensatory draft pick. 

I realize that about the compensation, but I thought the effect of the initial QO being rejected meant that the team couldn't negotiate a new deal without significant penalties attached.

Either way it's a no-brainer that both Correa and JV will receive QOs because the team knows they're gone but would be happy to have them stick around on a one-year deal. My guess is Correa will sign with Miami, that seems like a city both he and Daniella would love to live in. 

[UTexasFight 9499]

The rays gave up 14 earned runs today….and still have a better postseason team ERA than the White Sox

[TonyTexas 10516]

11 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

I realize that about the compensation, but I thought the effect of the initial QO being rejected meant that the team couldn't negotiate a new deal without significant penalties attached.

CC will receive a QO and reject it. That makes hm a FA. And the Astros can be a player in that FA negotiation. If they sign him then no compensatory draft pick. Happens all the time. 

[Guadaloopy 10973]

15 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

CC will receive a QO and reject it. That makes hm a FA. And the Astros can be a player in that FA negotiation. If they sign him then no compensatory draft pick. Happens all the time. 

Has happened exactly once. Because the player and his agent badly misjudged the market. 

[Guadaloopy 10973]

Before you say it… I was wrong.  It used to happen a lot, but not since 2016.

Edited October 9, 2021 by Guadaloopy

[Guadaloopy 10973]

Most of those were 3-4 year deals, with the longest being Chris Davis with the Orioles for 7 yrs.  lulz

[TonyTexas 10516]

7 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Has happened exactly once. Because the player and his agent badly misjudged the market. 

Happened twice last year. LeMahieu and Realmuto 

[Guadaloopy 10973]

[Murfdogg21 4413]

If they think there’s a 90+% chance he’s gone, you are suggesting they don’t make a QO because of the optics/psychology that CC will take them out of the running? And the Astros should give up the draft compensation, if not making a QO increases their chances of him resigning for less than market from 0% to 1%?

[TonyTexas 10516]

^^^^
They 100% make a qualifying offer.  They know it won’t be accepted but necessary to be eligible for a compensatory draft pick. It just starts the process. And it’s is no insult to Carlos. Just business. 

Edited October 9, 2021 by TonyTexas

[Gourmand 7774]

And JV as well. 

[TonyTexas 10516]

2 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

And JV as well. 

Yes. But not Greinke. A player can only get one QO and he’s already received one fron the Dodgers. 

[Doug E. Fresh 452]

This guy was sitting a few rows in front of a friend on Thursday and got booted for talking shit, mainly about trash cans. Guess he sat in the wrong (or right) section on Friday.

[Gourmand 7774]

Astros minor league player of the year? C Luke Berryhill. He slashed .295/.413/.561 with 15HR and 54 rbi in A ball.

[Fudge Nuggets 19206]

3 hours ago, Doug E. Fresh said:

This guy was sitting a few rows in front of a friend on Thursday and got booted for talking shit, mainly about trash cans. Guess he sat in the wrong (or right) section on Friday.

I consider myself fortunate I don’t have to mingle with the riff raff when I go to MMP.

[WBT 20616]

Related to Damon Berryhill?

[Chuckie Finster 22701]

Astros minor league player of the year? C Luke Berryhill. He slashed .295/.413/.561 with 15HR and 54 rbi in A ball.

Between Berryhill, Lee, and Diaz, do we really have three catching prospects with actual major league potential? Never thought I’d see the day.

[runthebone 8013]

57 minutes ago, WBT said:

Related to Damon Berryhill?

Possibly, but his dad is...Larry

https://gamecocksonline.com/sports/baseball/roster/luke-berryhill/6259

[Huckleberry 32997]

No relation to Damon, apparently. At least according to South Carolina (where he played) 247.

[tx 3 putt 77070]

3 hours ago, Gourmand said:

 

 

Astros minor league player of the year? C Luke Berryhill. He slashed .295/.413/.561 with 15HR and 54 rbi in A ball.
 

 

him and Lee had great years