Chris Beard to Texas

[Machinator 32102]

Watching Baylor win it all might have been enough for me to quit college basketball if Shaka were still our coach. At least now there's a glimmer of hope.

[ztejas 44114]

28 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

Found it. 2008

 

 

 

I think they did something like this in 2002 as well. Goalposts or bleachers or both.

[clapclapclap 9000]

10 hours ago, Pancho said:

Gerry at IT saying Beard’s house in Lubbock was being vandalized by Tech folks over the weekend.

That will definitely help Tceh attract top notch coaches.

Edited April 6, 2021 by clapclapclap
#anTTifa

[Shinesintx 53]

2 hours ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Man, I'm ready for some of those tech transfers to hurry tf up. 

How many do you think Beard can get to transfer?

[Guest]

6 hours ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Beard had the classiest exit from Lubbock possible and Tech fans are still acting like salty petulant children. Beard was too good for Tech and their fans.

Incorrect.  There was most definitely some slash and burn there.

Many of the fans are talking out their asses, but to say Beard did it correctly is just as innacurate.

[Fletch 5817]

How exactly did Beard not leave correctly? 

Edited April 6, 2021 by Fletch

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Man, I'm ready for some of those tech transfers to hurry tf up. 

You can't hire all of their dads...

FTR, McCullar and Edwards staying at Tech upon the Adams announcement as HC.

[Guest]

21 minutes ago, Fletch said:

How exactly did Beard not leave correctly? 

LOlz.  really?

1. Left for less money, not even giving Tech a chance to counter.  This, after 15 years of work at the school.  IDGAF about alma-mater horseshit...that is fucking laughable.  he built his career at Tech. Where did DKR graduate? Why doesn't Coach K work at West Point?  LOLz.   In the grand scheme of things, it means very, very little in comparison with where you worked and became who you are.

2. Leaving on the day the buyout dropped, as opposed to when he likely reached agreement with Texas.  The Comfort Suites in Plainview ain't the first place discussions occurred. I have posted that while this factor pisses off a lot of Tech fans, I considered it pretty good karma for Leach getting hosed financially more than a decade ago.  It's debatable either way, but it's still hardly "Doing Tech right" from Beard's perspective.

3. The 'convenient' departure of Shaka Smart, foregoing a $7MM buyout to take the job at Marquette.  Even the most cynical Longhorn fan couldn't believe he just so cleanly left and UT had everything set on the table... Oh, guess what...Shaka and Beard are represented by the same agent.  Absolutely fucking coincidental, I know...

4. Any team raiding that occurs.  On the first few days it appeared much of the team would be gone, at least with regard to the starters. This situation has improved from Tech's perspective in the past 24hrs.

 

I meant what I said a few days ago about not being salty towards Beard.  I am disappointed, but I also get it.  All of that being considered, it's pretty damned  myopic to act amazed and bewildered that a school and its fanbase is not more accepting of the situation.  Nobody would be...

Edited April 6, 2021 by slorch

[shadow_operative 15932]

that entire post is full of shit, and nothing but whiny excuses trying to justify TTU's blatantly unjustified spite and hatred towards Beard, the man who took the TTU program to never before seen heights, only to take the *obviously better job* at his alma mater. fuck y'all's excuses for acting like petulant little bitches, as they're all complete horse shit. just own it at this point. just say, "Chris Beard was our best chance to be relevant and now he's gone and we're upset." stop with the ridiculous justifications for the TTU reaction to Beard leaving. 

Edited April 6, 2021 by shadow_operative

[closetohumping 17782]

16 minutes ago, slorch said:

LOlz.  really?

1. Left for less money, not even giving Tech a chance to counter.  This, after 15 years of work at the school.  IDGAF about alma-mater horseshit...that is fucking laughable.  he built his career at Tech. Where did DKR graduate? Why doesn't Coach K work at West Point?  LOLz.   In the grand scheme of things, it means very, very little in comparison with where you worked and became who you are.

2. Leaving on the day the buyout dropped, as opposed to when he likely reached agreement with Texas.  The Comfort Suites in Plainview ain't the first place discussions occurred. I have posted that while this factor pisses off a lot of Tech fans, I considered it pretty good karma for Leach getting hosed financially more than a decade ago.  It's debatable either way, but it's still hardly "Doing Tech right" from Beard's perspective.

3. The 'convenient' departure of Shaka Smart, foregoing a $7MM buyout to take the job at Marquette.  Even the most cynical Longhorn fan couldn't believe he just so cleanly left and UT had everything set on the table... Oh, guess what...Shaka and Beard are represented by the same agent.  Absolutely fucking coincidental, I know...

4. Any team raiding that occurs.  On the first few days it appeared much of the team would be gone, at least with regard to the starters. This situation has improved from Tech's perspective in the past 24hrs.

 

I meant what I said a few days ago about not being salty towards Beard.  I am disappointed, but I also get it.  All of that being considered, it's pretty damned  myopic to act amazed and bewildered that a school and its fanbase is not more accepting of the situation.  Nobody would be...

I don’t see any of this as unethical.  In fact, leaving quickly and not stringing Tech along showed integrity.  Think of it from a relationship viewpoint.  Is it better for a girl to string you along or break up with you immediately.  His decision was swift and clean, allowing tech to know where they stand so that they can move on.  Thanks for the corch 

[Blotto 23975]

23 minutes ago, slorch said:

LOlz.  really?

1. Left for less money, not even giving Tech a chance to counter. 

Lulz indeed...

Don't go Chris. Please don't go. How much less do we have to pay you to get you to reconsider?

Edited April 6, 2021 by Blotto

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I don’t see any of this as unethical.  In fact, leaving quickly and not stringing Tech along showed integrity.  Think of it from a relationship viewpoint.  Is it better for a girl to string you along or break up with you immediately.  His decision was swift and clean, allowing tech to know where they stand so that they can move on.  Thanks for the corch 

And you are certainly entitled to that opinion. Rip the bandaid off right?

I do not want to debate the rights or wrongs of all of this.  I was simply addressing how it could be seen as less than loyal or doing Tech a solid. If you don’t want to understand that perspective, then you don’t and that’s cool.

[Rockethorn1978 6203]

46 minutes ago, slorch said:

LOlz.  really?

1. Left for less money, not even giving Tech a chance to counter.  This, after 15 years of work at the school.  IDGAF about alma-mater horseshit...that is fucking laughable.  he built his career at Tech. Where did DKR graduate? Why doesn't Coach K work at West Point?  LOLz.   In the grand scheme of things, it means very, very little in comparison with where you worked and became who you are.

2. Leaving on the day the buyout dropped, as opposed to when he likely reached agreement with Texas.  The Comfort Suites in Plainview ain't the first place discussions occurred. I have posted that while this factor pisses off a lot of Tech fans, I considered it pretty good karma for Leach getting hosed financially more than a decade ago.  It's debatable either way, but it's still hardly "Doing Tech right" from Beard's perspective.

3. The 'convenient' departure of Shaka Smart, foregoing a $7MM buyout to take the job at Marquette.  Even the most cynical Longhorn fan couldn't believe he just so cleanly left and UT had everything set on the table... Oh, guess what...Shaka and Beard are represented by the same agent.  Absolutely fucking coincidental, I know...

4. Any team raiding that occurs.  On the first few days it appeared much of the team would be gone, at least with regard to the starters. This situation has improved from Tech's perspective in the past 24hrs.

 

I meant what I said a few days ago about not being salty towards Beard.  I am disappointed, but I also get it.  All of that being considered, it's pretty damned  myopic to act amazed and bewildered that a school and its fanbase is not more accepting of the situation.  Nobody would be...

[JesusSweatDuck 18046]

Personally, I think we should refuse to pay the $4M buy out and claim sovereign immunity.  Then take that $4M and give it to Coach Leach and say the rest of TX is trying to apologize that is the embarrassment of TX Tech.

[Pato del Muerto 53335]

5 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

Personally, I think we should refuse to pay the $4M buy out and claim sovereign immunity.  Then take that $4M and give it to Coach Leach and say the rest of TX is trying to apologize that is the embarrassment of TX Tech.

And then get the Texas legislature to take their vet school charter away and give it to UTPB. 

[txhorns 2421]

Beard didn't take a pay cut to go to Texas.  He's getting paid more.  The perceived pay cut is because he got a one time bonus of $750k this last year.  That's a one time bonus, not a yearly bonus.

[Machinator 32102]

College athletics is a business. Beard made a business decision (assisted by his alumnus ties). If he leaves Texas for the NBA or a blue blood, that will also be a business decision and I hope our fans don't throw a hissy fit about it.

[jinx 2636]

But we can vandalize his house, right? 

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, txhorns said:

Beard didn't take a pay cut to go to Texas.  He's getting paid more.  The perceived pay cut is because he got a one time bonus of $750k this last year.  That's a one time bonus, not a yearly bonus.

He would have gotten more from Tech to keep him.

[closetohumping 17782]

1 hour ago, slorch said:

And you are certainly entitled to that opinion. Rip the bandaid off right?

I do not want to debate the rights or wrongs of all of this.  I was simply addressing how it could be seen as less than loyal or doing Tech a solid. If you don’t want to understand that perspective, then you don’t and that’s cool.

So IYO, he should've given Tech the chance to counter?  That's where he lacked integrity?  I'm glad he didn't, for Tech's sake.  If Tech money whips him, say 6m a year and he still says no, how does Tech look?  Your school was the dumpee, so I certainly understand the anger and cloudy vision.

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, Machinator said:

College athletics is a business. Beard made a business decision (assisted by his alumnus ties). If he leaves Texas for the NBA or a blue blood, that will also be a business decision and I hope our fans don't throw a hissy fit about it.

And that’s where I fall on the matter.  I’m not upset or throwing a tantrum. Hell, I can personally identify with not wanting to live in LBK. I have moved multiple times for work. It was because it was what was best for my career or family in each situation.

 

Flipside to that reaction is by some on here, “ Well I don’t really see why they might be pissed... We’d be totally understanding in that same situation.”  No ya wouldn’t.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

So IYO, he should've given Tech the chance to counter?  That's where he lacked integrity?  I'm glad he didn't, for Tech's sake.  If Tech money whips him, say 6m a year and he still says no, how does Tech look?  Your school was the dumpee, so I certainly understand the anger and cloudy vision.

I don’t personally feel ‘wronged’ by any of it.  He didn’t do anything to me.  Again, someone asked how Tech could possibly be upset.  If they cannot see why, then they don’t want to see.

Edited April 6, 2021 by slorch

[Chuckie Finster 22978]

6 minutes ago, slorch said:

He would have gotten more from Tech to keep him.

So if he takes more money to go to UT, he's a money chasing, greedy POS.

If he takes less money to go to UT, he's.... unethical for NOT being a money chasing, greedy POS?

Do I have that right?  Good lord, man.  Listen to what you are saying.

[txhorns 2421]

The money aspect is also not just about the head coach salary.  Tech likely would have matched whatever Texas offered for Beard.  Tech, however, probably can't match what Texas is willing to pay for Beard's assistants and support staff.

[Fug 604]

14 minutes ago, slorch said:

I don’t personally feel ‘wronged’ by any of it.  He didn’t do anything to me.  Again, someone asked how Tech could possibly be upset.  If they cannot see why, then they don’t want to see.

How is this whiny bitch not begged to oblivion yet?

[SizzleChest 8302]

This thread has been slorched.  Sad!

[Bozo_Casanova 26773]

20 hours ago, realgreggym said:

Abe also had sellouts. And we had sellouts at Gregory when the aggy, pigs, dirt burglars and other teams came to town. The crowds were amazing at those games.

When Gregory is packed, Gregory is the best sports venue on the planet. 

[planoraider11 9]

10 hours ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Man, I'm ready for some of those tech transfers to hurry tf up. 

Yesterday morning, I would've said Texas was going to get a majority of the team. Now with the Adams hire, I don't think yall get anyone except Peavy or Santos Silva.  Edwards and McCullars have both announced they are coming back. It sounds like Shannon will be returning as well and our top recruit Tyson will be honoring his commitment. Only questions at this point are Santos-Silva and McClung, if I were going to guess SS leaves but McClung comes back. 

 

So yall might end up with 2, but I think that's about it. Tech 100% made the right decision in hiring Mark Adams.  

[Eskimohorn 5676]

And that’s where I fall on the matter.  I’m not upset or throwing a tantrum. Hell, I can personally identify with not wanting to live in LBK. I have moved multiple times for work. It was because it was what was best for my career or family in each situation.
 
Flipside to that reaction is by some on here, “ Well I don’t really see why they might be pissed... We’d be totally understanding in that same situation.”  No ya wouldn’t.

We weren’t upset when Shaka left us for Marquette.

[Machinator 32102]

Edited April 6, 2021 by Machinator

[Js1 86945]

Tech seems to think they are this college blueblood and coaches would never leave them for other jobs.  Ever.  

[Red Five 41597]

Did Tech fans think Beard was going to be a lifer there? That thought never occurred to me. 

[closetohumping 17782]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Did Tech fans think Beard was going to be a lifer there? That thought never occurred to me. 

But but you said you’d eat whale blubber for me

[planoraider11 9]

3 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Did Tech fans think Beard was going to be a lifer there? That thought never occurred to me. 

I don't think most Tech fans thought he would be a lifer but felt like there were very few jobs he would have left for. I'm of the opinion that there were 5 situations in which he would have left. Texas, Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke or the NBA. I do not think KU was an option for him, only UT within the big 12. I was a little upset at first, naturally, but I always expected Texas being his alma matter could hire him and can't fault him for going to his school. Congrats, you got a great coach. 

 

What Beard is really good at is building culture and recruiting. He is excellent in both of those areas, what will be interesting to see is how he does without Adams running the defense. I do think he will still be successful, even if it's only because he should have outstanding talent in Austin, but I think he is a decent X and Os coach as well.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

He can hire another defensive guru.  It isn't that hard to find. He did fine without Adams early in his career.  And will do fine after.

Edited April 6, 2021 by Johnny Sack

[Herbie Hancock 7452]

Tech seems to think they are this college blueblood and coaches would never leave them for other jobs.  Ever.  

Syphillis has devastating effects on the brain. Exhibit A

[SizzleChest 8302]

28 minutes ago, planoraider11 said:

So yall might end up with 2, but I think that's about it. Tech 100% made the right decision in hiring Mark Adams.  

Tech could keep everyone Tyson, Peavy, MSS, but who's going to be the recruiters there?  Who has the AAU connections?  If Adams can't bring in some dudes, all the coaching in the world won't make a difference.  At first glance, it looks like Hocutt took the option of putting it in neutral and coasting on the momentum Beard built.  Your program could recede to pre-Tubby levels in two years.

[Catdaddyhorn 3462]

Seemingly everyone in the conference is running Tech's no middle defense now so it can't be that hard to implement. Shit, Baylor just won with it last night. 

Edited April 6, 2021 by Catdaddyhorn

[planoraider11 9]

1 minute ago, SizzleChest said:

Tech could keep everyone Tyson, Peavy, MSS, but who's going to be the recruiters there?  Who has the AAU connections?  If Adams can't bring in some dudes, all the coaching in the world won't make a difference.  At first glance, it looks like Hocutt took the option of putting it in neutral and coasting on the momentum Beard built.  Your program could recede to pre-Tubby levels in two years.

We are bringing back Brian Burg (excellent recruiter) and are putting together a nice staff. There are also reports that Jason Sasser (former player and current head coach at Red Oak HS) will be joining the staff as a recruiting specialist. I think Tech will be fine. Will we recruit like UT? No. UT should have top 10 classes every year moving forward with Beard and the staff he has assembled. Can we recruit enough to keep the program at it's current level? Absolutely. 

The big 12 moving forward is going to continue to be the best conference in the country. KU, Baylor, Texas, Tech, WVU, OU and OK ST should all continue to be great programs that expect to make the tournament on a yearly basis. It's a loaded league that is a dogfight every night (except when you get to play KSU, ISU or TCU) 

[NoName 17107]

19 hours ago, Hornlover said:

There's the real account, which has two underscores, and is not suspended. https://twitter.com/CoachBeard__UT

Then, there's the fake parody account, which has one underscore, and is suspended. https://twitter.com/CoachBeard_UT

 

You'd think that the head basketball coach at Texas could have acquired a Twitter handle without double fucking underscores. Let's hope his handling of the Xs and Os is better than his social media creds.

someone had snagged it a long time ago in case this happened

[maninblack 7975]

3 hours ago, slorch said:

LOlz.  really?

1. Left for less money, not even giving Tech a chance to counter.  This, after 15 years of work at the school.  IDGAF about alma-mater horseshit...that is fucking laughable.  he built his career at Tech. Where did DKR graduate? Why doesn't Coach K work at West Point?  LOLz.   In the grand scheme of things, it means very, very little in comparison with where you worked and became who you are.

2. Leaving on the day the buyout dropped, as opposed to when he likely reached agreement with Texas.  The Comfort Suites in Plainview ain't the first place discussions occurred. I have posted that while this factor pisses off a lot of Tech fans, I considered it pretty good karma for Leach getting hosed financially more than a decade ago.  It's debatable either way, but it's still hardly "Doing Tech right" from Beard's perspective.

3. The 'convenient' departure of Shaka Smart, foregoing a $7MM buyout to take the job at Marquette.  Even the most cynical Longhorn fan couldn't believe he just so cleanly left and UT had everything set on the table... Oh, guess what...Shaka and Beard are represented by the same agent.  Absolutely fucking coincidental, I know...

4. Any team raiding that occurs.  On the first few days it appeared much of the team would be gone, at least with regard to the starters. This situation has improved from Tech's perspective in the past 24hrs.

 

I meant what I said a few days ago about not being salty towards Beard.  I am disappointed, but I also get it.  All of that being considered, it's pretty damned  myopic to act amazed and bewildered that a school and its fanbase is not more accepting of the situation.  Nobody would be...

[Brian Fantana 6856]

8 hours ago, Shinesintx said:

How many do you think Beard can get to transfer?

Best chance is probably Micah Peavy just because of his dad, but it doesn't seem like they have made a decision yet. Probably depends on if Beard hires his dad. Everyone else who entered the transfer portal seems to have changed their mind after the Adams hire.

One weird thing is that two of our starters (Edwards and McCullar) had decided to transfer if Beard remained head coach the next season, but have now indicated they will stay under Adams. I don't know what to make of that at all.

[Js1 86945]

Just now, Brian Fantana said:

Best chance is probably Micah Peavy just because of his dad, but it doesn't seem like they have made a decision yet. Probably depends on if Beard hires his dad. Everyone else who entered the transfer portal seems to have changed their mind after the Adams hire.

One weird thing is that two of our starters (Edwards and McCullar) had decided to transfer if Beard remained head coach the next season, but have now indicated they will stay under Adams. I don't know what to make of that at all.

I wouldn't even try to make sense of why players are going into and taking themselves out the portal this year. 

No one seems to know what they are doing or why they are doing it.  It's going to be a mess. 

[NoName 17107]

3 hours ago, slorch said:

LOlz.  really?

1. Left for less money, not even giving Tech a chance to counter.  This, after 15 years of work at the school.  IDGAF about alma-mater horseshit...that is fucking laughable.  he built his career at Tech. Where did DKR graduate? Why doesn't Coach K work at West Point?  LOLz.   In the grand scheme of things, it means very, very little in comparison with where you worked and became who you are.

2. Leaving on the day the buyout dropped, as opposed to when he likely reached agreement with Texas.  The Comfort Suites in Plainview ain't the first place discussions occurred. I have posted that while this factor pisses off a lot of Tech fans, I considered it pretty good karma for Leach getting hosed financially more than a decade ago.  It's debatable either way, but it's still hardly "Doing Tech right" from Beard's perspective.

3. The 'convenient' departure of Shaka Smart, foregoing a $7MM buyout to take the job at Marquette.  Even the most cynical Longhorn fan couldn't believe he just so cleanly left and UT had everything set on the table... Oh, guess what...Shaka and Beard are represented by the same agent.  Absolutely fucking coincidental, I know...

4. Any team raiding that occurs.  On the first few days it appeared much of the team would be gone, at least with regard to the starters. This situation has improved from Tech's perspective in the past 24hrs.

 

I meant what I said a few days ago about not being salty towards Beard.  I am disappointed, but I also get it.  All of that being considered, it's pretty damned  myopic to act amazed and bewildered that a school and its fanbase is not more accepting of the situation.  Nobody would be...

come on.

Jimmy Sexton represents a ton of coaches because he is the best. full stop.

He took the job because he could make $7 million in buyout or could make more than $7 million in salary at Marquette. This isn't a hard decision.

did he do TTU "right" - what's the expectation here? that he fuck over the new place in favor of the old place? nobody does that because it's an asshole move. TTU fucked up by having the buyout go down when they did, should have left it at $5 mil forever if they didn't think this is EXACTLY what would happen if he was to be hired this offseason. If he didn't come to Texas he was going to end up somewhere else eventually. This isn't the 70s when Myers stayed for 20 years - it's TTU not Duke.

they still got their buyout, he didn't leave after promising he would stay, this had been talked about for a long time and would have happened last year if the season had played out totally.

 

 

[closetohumping 17782]

2 minutes ago, NoName said:

come on.

Jimmy Sexton represents a ton of coaches because he is the best. full stop.

He took the job because he could make $7 million in buyout or could make more than $7 million in salary at Marquette. This isn't a hard decision.

did he do TTU "right" - what's the expectation here? that he fuck over the new place in favor of the old place? nobody does that because it's an asshole move. TTU fucked up by having the buyout go down when they did, should have left it at $5 mil forever if they didn't think this is EXACTLY what would happen if he was to be hired this offseason. If he didn't come to Texas he was going to end up somewhere else eventually. This isn't the 70s when Myers stayed for 20 years - it's TTU not Duke.

they still got their buyout, he didn't leave after promising he would stay, this had been talked about for a long time and would have happened last year if the season had played out totally.

 

 

And not just that, save some embarrassment from a firing, which could be career limiting.

[NoName 17107]

3 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

that entire post is full of shit, and nothing but whiny excuses trying to justify TTU's blatantly unjustified spite and hatred towards Beard, the man who took the TTU program to never before seen heights, only to take the *obviously better job* at his alma mater.

let's be honest, he was leaving for a better job at some point soon anyway - be it the Texas job or somewhere else. TTU is far from the best basketball job in the B12, much less the country, much less the state.

if he had left to go coach at UL-Monroe it would be one thing, but he left for a better job...period.

(if he had left to go coach at UNC the vitriol would be ratcheted down about 90% btw)

[closetohumping 17782]

2 minutes ago, NoName said:

let's be honest, he was leaving for a better job at some point soon anyway - be it the Texas job or somewhere else. TTU is far from the best basketball job in the B12, much less the country, much less the state.

if he had left to go coach at UL-Monroe it would be one thing, but he left for a better job...period.

(if he had left to go coach at UNC the vitriol would be ratcheted down about 90% btw)

Also this.  The fact that it's Texas and he didn't get a huge raise, stings.  

[NoName 17107]

49 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Did Tech fans think Beard was going to be a lifer there? That thought never occurred to me. 

it's fucking basketball, the idea of "lifers" went out the window years ago. the number of those guys out there who have been hired in the last 10 years you can legit count on one hand

[Brian Fantana 6856]

https://www.burntorangenation.com/2021/4/6/22369585/chris-beard-mark-adams-no-middle-defense-texas-longhorns-texas-tech-red-raiders

Pretty good piece on Beard and Adams' history. Can't wait for ESPN to beat this horse to death next year.

[Js1 86945]

18 minutes ago, NoName said:

let's be honest, he was leaving for a better job at some point soon anyway - be it the Texas job or somewhere else. TTU is far from the best basketball job in the B12, much less the country, much less the state.

if he had left to go coach at UL-Monroe it would be one thing, but he left for a better job...period.

(if he had left to go coach at UNC the vitriol would be ratcheted down about 90% btw)

He left UNLV for Tech without coaching a single game.  He wasn't even there 3 weeks until he left.  

Spare me on how "low" it was for Beard to leave Tech for UT after 5 years. 

He makes business decisions.  Get the fuck over it.