2021 - Is inflation finally back in the conversation?

[Cheeseweasel 26,437]

34 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

Please weave me the tale of the child born into poverty who is worse off from receiving healthcare, food, and education.

Agreed. We should set the tax rate so the money goes from each according to their ability to each according to their need.

[Mullet Free 40]

1 hour ago, Snake Diggity said:

Being born without a competitive advantage isn’t a punishment, it’s equality.  I certainly believe there should be limits to the unearned advantages one child should receive over another.  

This is some CR commie shit. Can we wrap this up already?

 

 

[jimmyjazz 45,597]

4 hours ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Everyone should get everything for free or it's not fair.

Kindergarten thinking.

Wow.  Is that what you think he said?

[Cheeseweasel 26,437]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Wow.  Is that what you think he said?

It's transitory. 

[jimmyjazz 45,597]

I love how stupid monetary policy under a <checks notes> R POTUS is ignored, but NOW we need to get right with God.

Yeah, that's political AND philosophical.  surly can get fucked.

[Cheeseweasel 26,437]

CR is leaking again. Scurry back.

[gmr548 16,531]

exactly. As it turns out, cocaine is not food. 

[jimmyjazz 45,597]

8 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

CR is leaking again. Scurry back.

Nah, I'm good.  Snowflakes are fascinating.

[gmr548 16,531]

Everyone should get everything for free or it's not fair.
Kindergarten thinking.

[Cheeseweasel 26,437]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Nah, I'm good.  Snowflakes are fascinating.

It's interesting that no on has mentioned politics until you started. Then you complain about it and call everyone snowflakes. 

[jimmyjazz 45,597]

Just now, Cheeseweasel said:

It's interesting that no on has mentioned politics until you started. Then you complain about it and call everyone snowflakes. 

LOL, I'm not COMPLAINING about politics.  I made the fucking political point.
 

Big reader, are you?

[Cheeseweasel 26,437]

9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

LOL, I'm not COMPLAINING about politics.  I made the fucking political point.
 

Big reader, are you?

Insults. The last gasp of someone who can't get people to listen to their foolish ideas.

[jimmyjazz 45,597]

4 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Insults. The last gasp of someone who can't get people to listen to their foolish ideas.

I literally said that my statement was political.  You're so primed to see my posts in a particular light that you can't possibly comprehend I was acknowledging that fact.  Yeah, I'm the problem.

Edited May 15, 2023 by jimmyjazz

[Cheeseweasel 26,437]

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, I'm the problem.

The first step is admitting it.

[jimmyjazz 45,597]

6 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

The first step is admitting it.

Then admit your reading comprehension sucks, and we can move on.  

I'm here to help.

[Snake Diggity 4,614]

1 hour ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Agreed. We should set the tax rate so the money goes from each according to their ability to each according to their need.

You think ability is predetermined at birth? Wow.

[Incredulity 11,564]

57 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I love how stupid monetary policy under a <checks notes> R POTUS is ignored, but NOW we need to get right with God.

Yeah, that's political AND philosophical.  surly can get fucked.

[Cheeseweasel 26,437]

15 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Then admit your reading comprehension sucks, and we can move on.  

I'm here to help.

[jimmyjazz 45,597]

No thanks, peanut allergy.

[blacklab 11,852]

lets cut out the threadshitting fatty, mullet, take your shit to the CR

[52-80 19,106]

3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I love how stupid monetary policy under a <checks notes> R POTUS is ignored, but NOW we need to get right with God.

Yeah, that's political AND philosophical.  surly can get fucked.

If you want to play this game, here's monetary policy (avg fed fund rate) and fiscal policy (avg balance) during these administrations going back to Austin360.com:

2001-2008:  2.89% FFR; 249B deficit

2009-2016:  0.16% FFR; 911B deficit

2017-2020:  1.34% FFR; 1,390B deficit

2021-todate: 1.41% FFR; 2,075B deficit

 

[Neonmoon 38,127]

 

[B00M 6,280]

This was discussed about 50 shit posts ago so here’s a chart for context

 

 

 

[jimmyjazz 45,597]

28 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

If you want to play this game, here's monetary policy (avg fed fund rate) and fiscal policy (avg balance) during these administrations going back to Austin360.com:

2001-2008:  2.89% FFR; 249B deficit

2009-2016:  0.16% FFR; 911B deficit

2017-2020:  1.34% FFR; 1,390B deficit

2021-todate: 1.41% FFR; 2,075B deficit

 

Really?  That's the "game" you want to play?

 

[Mullet Free 40]

30 minutes ago, B00M said:

This was discussed about 50 shit posts ago so here’s a chart for context

 

 

 

I’ve been trying to find a chart/article that incorporates the effects of debt rolling over in the next few years at roughly this interest rate level, to no avail. 
 

Also, my stance is still that rates will be coming down substantially pretty soon. Fed will be forced to cut bigly. 

[52-80 19,106]

26 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Really?  That's the "game" you want to play?

 

Point to us on the that flat line where Ronald McReagan and Herbert Walker hurt you. 

[52-80 19,106]

28 minutes ago, Mullet Free said:

I’ve been trying to find a chart/article that incorporates the effects of debt rolling over in the next few years at roughly this interest rate level, to no avail. 
 

Also, my stance is still that rates will be coming down substantially pretty soon. Fed will be forced to cut bigly. 

the CBO runs a long term projection

https://www.cbo.gov/data/budget-economic-data

this is net interest going 10 years forward

Net Interest

476

663

745

773

835

912

1,003

1,084

1,165

1,252

1,350

1,440

 

[jimmyjazz 45,597]

6 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

Point to us on the that flat line where Ronald McReagan and Herbert Walker hurt you. 

Are you referring to the "flat" line with negative values preceding the point where Willie McBlowie swung it positive?

[52-80 19,106]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Are you referring to the "flat" line with negative values preceding the point where Willie McBlowie swung it positive?

that 3 years really holding up the average over 4 decades, does it? 

also please go ahead and link some posts from people you accuse of one-sided'ism, praising or condemning these dudes.  i love to see me some legacy BBS messages. 

[jimmyjazz 45,597]

15 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

that 3 years really holding up the average over 4 decades, does it? 

Did I say that?  Put on your big brain and tell me the general trend ("slope" if you will) by administration "color".  It's coarse, it may not be causal, but it sure isn't invisible.

 

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also please go ahead and link some posts from people you accuse of one-sided'ism, praising or condemning these dudes.  i love to see me some legacy BBS messages. 

I haven't the foggiest what this gibberish means.

[52-80 19,106]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Did I say that?  Put on your big brain and tell me the general trend ("slope" if you will) by administration "color".  It's coarse, it may not be causal, but it sure isn't invisible.

1 administrations dip into the green is really offsetting the 2 of their peer administrations overspending huh?  can you run an integral on that and let us compare all of them together?

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I haven't the foggiest what this gibberish means.

so you want to accuse people of something unfalsifiable - "you didnt speak up before, so you didnt care about monetary policy before!".  nice logic bro. 

[jimmyjazz 45,597]

10 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

1 administrations dip into the green is really offsetting the 2 of their peer administrations overspending huh?  can you run an integral on that and let us compare all of them together?

. . . nice logic bro

Turning shit into relative shinola twice in a row seems fairly admirable.  But you knew that.  "Bro".

[52-80 19,106]

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Turning shit into relative shinola twice in a row seems fairly admirable.  But you knew that.  "Bro".

I havent the foggiest idea what this is supposed to mean. You enjoy crappy lifestyle products from a detroit merchant or something?

[B00M 6,280]

Jimmy is a hack that spends too much time here, so he projects politics and takes offense on behalf of his political team when there’s absolutely no need. 

[B00M 6,280]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

 

LMCI implied? Hadn’t heard of that one.

link for convenience 

https://www.kansascityfed.org/data-and-trends/labor-market-conditions-indicators/

 

 

[jimmyjazz 45,597]

28 minutes ago, B00M said:

Jimmy is a hack that spends too much time here, so he projects politics and takes offense on behalf of his political team when there’s absolutely no need. 

Quite the endorsement, coming from you.  Paychecks at dawn.

[Hefeweizen 5,307]

[troph 24,578]

2 hours ago, 52-80 said:

that 3 years really holding up the average over 4 decades, does it? 

also please go ahead and link some posts from people you accuse of one-sided'ism, praising or condemning these dudes.  i love to see me some legacy BBS messages. 

Uh be careful what you wish for there’s scat porn lurking around in our legacy. 

[fattyflattie 4,636]

9 hours ago, blacklab said:

lets cut out the threadshitting fatty, mullet, take your shit to the CR

Cant imagine how I'm threadshitting anymore than the dickhead repeatedly calling me a bitch and channeling his inner Rocko, but sure.  

[Snake Diggity 4,614]

6 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Cant imagine how I'm threadshitting anymore than the dickhead repeatedly calling me a bitch and channeling his inner Rocko, but sure.  

-Thread is fine and relatively CR-free for 98+ pages.

-Post 4933, Fatty enters the chat.  The CR bullshit tornado starts.  Fatty’s idiocy accounts for half of the fucking comments on page 99.  We’ve seen this before.

-Post 4954, I called it out and asked you not to post on this thread.  
-Post 4958, I explain why simply putting your dumb fucking ass on ignore doesn’t work.  

-Post 4962, I asked wtf your bullshit has to do with the topic of the thread; you don’t respond to that and keep up the cyclone of stupidity.  

-Post 4991, I call out the thread for going off topic; you respond as if you are having a good faith discussion about tax policy.

-Post 4998, my dumbass gives up and engages in the off topic discussion.

Page 101 devolves into a jr high style argument where you further expose what a piece of shit you are.  
 

The mod makes his call to try to get the thread back on topic (fwiw I would have been fine if he’d deleted all the back and forth between you and I and called me out along with you).  Predictably, fatty whines like the tittybaby bitchass snowflake he is.

Why is it that you think you get into so much conflict on this site?  You think it’s because you’re some bastion of truth, holding the line against the MSM and the cabal of libtards?  I know I’m probably not the first to tell you this, but that ain’t it.  It’s because you’re a fucking idiot who doesn’t know when he’s on the moral low ground or out of his depth, and you compound it by not ever shutting the fuck up.  That shit is annoying as fuck and makes it hard to enjoy any thread you post on.

 

 

 

 

[Hefeweizen 5,307]

[B00M 6,280]

Props for the leg work on that post. 

[Cheeseweasel 26,437]

25 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

Page 101 devolves into a jr high style argument

My apologies for contributing to that @Captainant and @jimmyjazz

I was way to Surly yesterday. My bad. I'll try to do better.

[ChickenSandwich 9,798]

[jimmyjazz 45,597]

51 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

My apologies for contributing to that @Captainant and @jimmyjazz

I was way to Surly yesterday. My bad. I'll try to do better.

I didn't exactly help.  I'll keep myself in check  . . . for awhile.  lulz

[fattyflattie 4,636]

1 hour ago, Snake Diggity said:

-Thread is fine and relatively CR-free for 98+ pages.

-Post 4933, Fatty enters the chat.  The CR bullshit tornado starts.  Fatty’s idiocy accounts for half of the fucking comments on page 99.  We’ve seen this before.

-Post 4954, I called it out and asked you not to post on this thread.  
-Post 4958, I explain why simply putting your dumb fucking ass on ignore doesn’t work.  

-Post 4962, I asked wtf your bullshit has to do with the topic of the thread; you don’t respond to that and keep up the cyclone of stupidity.  

-Post 4991, I call out the thread for going off topic; you respond as if you are having a good faith discussion about tax policy.

-Post 4998, my dumbass gives up and engages in the off topic discussion.

Page 101 devolves into a jr high style argument where you further expose what a piece of shit you are.  
 

The mod makes his call to try to get the thread back on topic (fwiw I would have been fine if he’d deleted all the back and forth between you and I and called me out along with you).  Predictably, fatty whines like the tittybaby bitchass snowflake he is.

Why is it that you think you get into so much conflict on this site?  You think it’s because you’re some bastion of truth, holding the line against the MSM and the cabal of libtards?  I know I’m probably not the first to tell you this, but that ain’t it.  It’s because you’re a fucking idiot who doesn’t know when he’s on the moral low ground or out of his depth, and you compound it by not ever shutting the fuck up.  That shit is annoying as fuck and makes it hard to enjoy any thread you post on.

 

 

 

 

Bitch, please.  Go study another WSJ editorial, come back, and wow us with your newfound thoughts on the situation.  That's my best guess at your grasp of the situation.   

I entered the conversation discussing tax structure, which absolutely ties in with inflation.  Much moreso than your melting over vertical wealth transfer and how it's JuSt NoT FaIR!!!11

 

[Snake Diggity 4,614]

6 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Bitch, please.  Go study another WSJ editorial, come back, and wow us with your newfound thoughts on the situation.  That's my best guess at your grasp of the situation.   

I entered the conversation discussing tax structure, which absolutely ties in with inflation.  Much moreso than your melting over vertical wealth transfer and how it's JuSt NoT FaIR!!!11

 

See what I mean about not ever shutting the fuck up?

[fattyflattie 4,636]

5 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

See what I mean about not ever shutting the fuck up?

Like 10,000 spoons and whatnot.  I guess you just like to diarrhea, and not expect a retort? Cool, cool. 

[Js1 85,143]

1 hour ago, Cheeseweasel said:

My apologies for contributing to that @Captainant and @jimmyjazz

I was way to Surly yesterday. My bad. I'll try to do better.

*too

[Snake Diggity 4,614]

On 5/12/2023 at 8:50 PM, fattyflattie said:

One penalized for achieving.  Both have access to the same govt functions, while one group uses (takes if you will) tremendously more of those services.

No, I would not call that fair.  

 

On 5/13/2023 at 12:24 AM, fattyflattie said:

Pretty sure even the flat earthers have figured out how to not be poor here.  Its America, a TikToc account can make you worth 10’s of millions.  

 

On 5/13/2023 at 8:42 AM, fattyflattie said:

My understanding is they are more than welcome to. Yet…

 

On 5/13/2023 at 10:14 AM, fattyflattie said:

That’s going to be a negative. Please don’t cry for me, Argentina. You’re more than welcome to be happy about overly supporting the takers.  I’ll continue to hope that one day they can get their shit together and actually contribute to society. 

 

On 5/13/2023 at 2:42 PM, fattyflattie said:

Which is almost as funny as the winners not earning it. 

 

On 5/13/2023 at 2:44 PM, fattyflattie said:

Rich man bad.  

 

21 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Especially since Elno can just borrow against his wealth!!11!

 

21 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Absolutely. Otherwise, what's the point?

 

 

20 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Only by idiots in the CR.  If not, I'd probably not have 2x the rep you do.   Hrrr drrr, inheritance is bad and RaCiSt!!1  Fuck outta here. 

 

20 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Sorry I jumped ahead to your next argument.  

 

20 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Oh I don't know.  I do pretty well, but I'm not sure how I'd stack up against someone who could easily budget and fix one of the biggest issues out country has faced since ever.  That's got to be a pretty big brain, considering how no one has gotten it right.  Someone that intelligent has to be pulling in beaucuop bucks. 

 

20 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Their parents can do something about that.  Pretty simple really.  Unless we are talking about orphaned children, and then you're talking statistical anomalies.  

Lol.  I'd expect you to be really sure about that, too.  Like everything else you've been so nails on. 

 

 

20 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Here's what I know.  Sorry for the kids your pining for.  But mine will have an "advantage".  And theirs, too.  

 

20 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Yeah, my kids will probably hate me for it.   

 

20 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Doubt it.  Maybe if they become CR posters, but by then, I'm dead and wife fell for a shitheel. 

Should I not be forcing them to watch Gordon Gecko clips?

 

8 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Cant imagine how I'm threadshitting anymore than the dickhead repeatedly calling me a bitch and channeling his inner Rocko, but sure.  

 

20 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Bitch, please.  Go study another WSJ editorial, come back, and wow us with your newfound thoughts on the situation.  That's my best guess at your grasp of the situation.   

I entered the conversation discussing tax structure, which absolutely ties in with inflation.  Much moreso than your melting over vertical wealth transfer and how it's JuSt NoT FaIR!!!11

 

 

8 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Like 10,000 spoons and whatnot.  I guess you just like to diarrhea, and not expect a retort? Cool, cool. 

 

Quoting all of fatty’s comments on “tax structure”.

Edited May 16, 2023 by Snake Diggity