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mchookem
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bitching about immigrants not paying income tax while simultaneously bragging about paying immigrants with cash so they can avoid paying income tax. i did not have that on my bingo card.  

TSipper
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We owe this girl and her family nothing. I do not care if they are fleeing violence, that is not the responsibility of this country. 7 billion people on this planet, is it our job to take all of them

Chrispy
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Spin it however you wish, this man forced his daughter into the river, not our policies. 

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16 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-guatemala-have-signed-agreement-on-asylum-white-house-says-11564172071?mod=mhp

U.S., Guatemala Reach Agreement on Asylum Seekers

Pact requires migrants traveling through Guatemala on the way to the U.S. to seek asylum in the Central American nation

 

Progress. 

In case that WSJ link is behind a pay wall:

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745727128/trump-signs-agreement-with-guatemala-to-limit-asylum-seekers

Under the agreement, migrants traveling through Guatemala from countries such as Honduras and El Salvador would have to claim asylum in Guatemala instead of the U.S. Getting Guatemala to sign the agreement was a key component of Trump's strategy for reducing illegal migration to the U.S.

I think this is a good thing?

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On 7/27/2019 at 10:09 AM, Parliament said:

In case that WSJ link is behind a pay wall:

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745727128/trump-signs-agreement-with-guatemala-to-limit-asylum-seekers

Under the agreement, migrants traveling through Guatemala from countries such as Honduras and El Salvador would have to claim asylum in Guatemala instead of the U.S. Getting Guatemala to sign the agreement was a key component of Trump's strategy for reducing illegal migration to the U.S.

I think this is a good thing?

It isn’t. That’s just NIMBY at work and it appeals to the absolute lowest common denominator.

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On 7/27/2019 at 11:10 AM, retread said:

 

I'm going to have to just block twitter in my network settings or something. I just read this and I just can't imagine anyone doing this yet fucking tens of millions of people in this country (and several on this board) think this okay.

All the talk about overreacting to everything Trump does by the right, it really feels like we're at an inflection point with the modern Gestapo hunting brown people and the GOP basically openly admitting that trying to secure our election systems is somehow the right thing to do.

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WASHINGTON — White House adviser Stephen Miller wants to ramp up the use of Border Patrol agents as asylum screeners in an effort to curb the number of migrants who win initial entry to the U.S., according to an internal email obtained by NBC News.

In the email, a National Security Council official tells Customs and Border Protection officials to come prepared to a meeting scheduled for Friday, July 26, because Miller is interested in the rate of approval for initial screenings for migrants interviewed by Border Patrol agents versus asylum officers.

But emails obtained by NBC News suggest Miller and others in the Trump administration have another motive: To curb the number of immigrants passing their credible fear interview. 

The official went on to say in the email quoted above that "(Miller) might press for an answer on when the (asylum) officers will no longer be looking over the shoulders of agents."

One current and one former DHS official, both speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Miller has long seen asylum officers as soft and believes border agents would be tougher critics of asylum seekers.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1035831

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HOUSTON (AP) — In early June, twin brothers from Guatemala let their sister in California know they were about to cross the U.S.-Mexico border. Then they vanished for almost a month.

She couldn’t find them in online databases and the local Guatemalan consulate had no information. She feared they had been kidnapped or killed.

It took three weeks to find them: inside jam-packed U.S. Border Patrol cells in South Texas, with no access to phones or lawyers. One of them was inside the fenced-in pens that Vice President Mike Pence visited in July. Only after the lawyers sued were both brothers transferred out.

It’s a pattern that immigration lawyers say has repeated itself for several weeks: Adults are detained in packed Border Patrol cells — malnourished, poorly treated and incommunicado — only to be moved within hours once the government is sued on their behalf.

One group of lawyers has filed lawsuits on behalf of the spouses, siblings and relatives of 18 migrants — all of whom were removed from their cells almost immediately.

The lawyers believe the government is trying to avoid a federal judge issuing a sweeping order that would require the release of potentially thousands of people detained by the Border Patrol or changes to improve the conditions in cells that government inspectors and advocates have said are squalid.

“They know they’re wrong and the court’s certainly going to come down on them because of the conditions,” said Thelma Garcia, a South Texas attorney. “It’s a losing battle for them in that regard.”

 

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Trump's child kidnappings are still happening in large numbers.  Now they're using the loophole of "child safety" to take away kids by charging parents for things like a couple bucks worth of property damage. 

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3 hours ago, retread said:

If it hasn't already happened, we're getting damn close to CBP/ICE just making some children disappear. There's zero accountability, zero transparency, and zero oversight.

Haven't they already done that? Aren't there still thousands of separated children whose whereabouts are unknown?

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Going to the lowest bidder... Kids from detention into HHS. Current company (MVM) likes to lobby. 

The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Office of Acquisition hereby gives notice of its intent to competitively award an Indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity (IDIQ) contract to obtain unarmed escort staff, including management, supervision, manpower, training, certifications, licenses, drug testing, equipment, and supplies necessary to provide unarmed escort services for non-criminal/non-delinquent UAC ranging from infants to 17 years of age and family units, seven (7) days a week, 365 days a year in accordance with the attached Performance Work Statement (PWS).

https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=04c104921de9adc614f58caa494a7e77&tab=core&_cview=1

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

HHS? That is interesting. They just had a few people asked to leave I believe:https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/four-officials-ejected-at-health-agency-dod-contracts-disrupted

 

This is not rare. Dept of Interior has contracting teams way under capacity so they "lend" services to other entities. But, there are reported to be 4000 layoffs at the largest processing center. 

What is sad is I sat on a call today listening to a company, as of today ex client, discuss how lucrative of a business this is and why they need to be bidding it. Soulless. 

 

a bit more on the changes. 

The remaining children at the Homestead detention center have all been relocated — and they’re not coming back, two federal sources confirmed. As a result, massive layoffs are expected on Monday and Tuesday, they said.

The children were picked up in vans between the hours of 1 a.m. and 7 a.m. Saturday.

About 400 employees were laid off on Friday, and about 4,000 more are expected to lose their jobs. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the federal agency over Homestead, plans on keeping about 130 employees on site to maintain the property even as the shelter remains closed.

As of last week, roughly 4,500 people worked at the facility, in roles ranging from youth care workers, medical personnel, case managers, cooks and cleaning staff.

The move to empty out Homestead came in the same days that HHS told lawmakers it was considering Central Florida, as well as Virginia and Los Angeles, as sites for future permanent shelters to hold unaccompanied migrant children. Last month the government said it was also looking at Atlanta, Houston, San Antonio, Dallas and Phoenix. Homestead will remain open as an emergency shelter in case bed space runs out at other centers.

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The reason I mentioned that particular article was due to its mention of four personnel who seemed (from my less knowledgeable position) to be in charge of awarding contacts. You would know more about that sort of thing it looks like based on your comments, but these folks (two in April and two in June) were higher up than detention center staff.

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18 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

The reason I mentioned that particular article was due to its mention of four personnel who seemed (from my less knowledgeable position) to be in charge of awarding contacts. You would know more about that sort of thing it looks like based on your comments, but these folks (two in April and two in June) were higher up than detention center staff.

Yes, agree, something is off here.

my point was within Government Contracting there is a lot of shared resources. From the article they are up high, but DOD would not be involved in these procurements. The crap on the border is DHS ------> HHS. The DOD facilities used are just space allocation as they are secure and hard to get to for media and watch dog groups. 

 

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This is Stephen Miller. Right there. This is his idea for Making America Great Again. He rarely gives interviews, but I wish the public would expose him the way they did Mitch McConnell and do it with the same white hot fury and investigative reporting all up in his colon without anesthesia.

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9 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Man, isn’t being TOUGH on [checks notes] little brown people working their asses off at shitty jobs to provide for their families AWESOME??
HOOOAH!!! GIT SOME!!!!!

And to give us cheap processed chicken nuggets. Don't forget that. 

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On 7/29/2019 at 10:52 AM, GSU&UT said:

All the talk about overreacting to everything Trump does by the right, it really feels like we're at an inflection point with the modern Gestapo hunting brown people and the GOP basically openly admitting that trying to secure our election systems is somehow the right thing to do.

I'm out of rep to give today. 

The GOP has made themselves argument proof and self-criticism proof by immediately shunting any counter position as derangement or just a cover for an ebil hidden agenda. They put on a fresh jersey when they wake up and yay team!

Their identity is so invested in being what they believe is a conservative that to question it now would shine light on their own hate which they won't believe exists. That wickedness is all projected on the illusory ebil libs, god damn them!

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Wow. This is a depressing thread. I'm sitting trying to express something, but I'm speechless.

Child confiscating. Concentration camps. Deportation of people who have lived here for their entire memorable life which, of course, ends because of the deportation.

42% approval

Americans saying that's alright as they go to church and get all weepy about the Greatest Generation whose main achievement was defeating tyranny.

America, the greatest nation in the world. Or so some of us insist.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Wow. This is a depressing thread. I'm sitting trying to express something, but I'm speechless.

Child confiscating. Concentration camps. Deportation of people who have lived here for their entire memorable life which, of course, ends because of the deportation.

42% approval

Americans saying that's alright as they go to church and get all weepy about the Greatest Generation whose main achievement was defeating tyranny.

America, the greatest nation in the world. Or so some of us insist.

 

 

By far the hardest thread to click on. It's unreal what we are doing. 

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This whole week has just been fucking brutal for me.  The shootings really hit harder than some of the other shootings for me (can't believe I just had to type that sentence) and then these just horrifyingly cruel stories.  We are walking right down the path of 1930s Germany.  I'm ashamed of this country.

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10 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

Someone attempt to defend this, I fucking dare you. 

Let me take a stab:

  • Their parents shouldn't have been here illegally anyhow.  You reap what you sow.  Stealing jobs from Americans. 
  • Too bad, send them back with their parents. They are anchor babies and now expect to be taken care of using MY taxpayer dollars.
  • We have to change the laws to prevent them from just being giving citizenship because they were born here to illegal parents.
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