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1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

The Republicans will never win the White House again.  Liberal Media circa 2016 out front should have told ya.

https://www.newsweek.com/will-republicans-ever-win-white-house-again-483751

 So the Democratic Party would be heavily favored to keep the White House for many terms of office and possibly break the record of six terms and 24 years, which occurred twice, between 1801 and 1825 (when the Jeffersonians prevailed) and 1861 and 1885 (when the GOP prevailed).

That's an opinion piece.

That's not news.

Stop conflating the two.

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bitching about immigrants not paying income tax while simultaneously bragging about paying immigrants with cash so they can avoid paying income tax. i did not have that on my bingo card.  

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We owe this girl and her family nothing. I do not care if they are fleeing violence, that is not the responsibility of this country. 7 billion people on this planet, is it our job to take all of them

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Spin it however you wish, this man forced his daughter into the river, not our policies. 

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3 hours ago, David Dennison said:

That's an opinion piece.

That's not news.

Stop conflating the two.

News doesn’t  predict the future, you fucking idiot.

An articles that predicts the future by definition not news.  Dickwad.

 

Fuck, you are a moron.

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17 hours ago, GSU&UT said:

Turns out ICE is lying. Now you two (probably the same user) think very hard why they might feel emboldened to do that, use those critical thinking skills.

 

 

Not so fast ABC (of course), it must have just killed The NY Times but....

MEXICAN STATE CONFIRMS ICE DETAINEE WANTED FOR HOMICIDE

It’s just a shame he wasn’t able to see the C-sec paid for by American tax payers for his 5th anchor child in 12 years, because ICE agents decided to stage an elaborate apprehension and then make up a warrant. Seemed legit. Glad he tasted freedom so long to bless us with his offspring.  

#sendingtheirbest

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/08/20/world/americas/ap-lt-mexico-us-pregnant-woman-husband-detained.html

 

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22 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Not so fast ABC (of course), it must have just killed The NY Times but....

MEXICAN STATE CONFIRMS ICE DETAINEE WANTED FOR HOMICIDE

It’s just a shame he wasn’t able to see the C-sec paid for by American tax payers for his 5th anchor child in 12 years, because ICE agents decided to stage an elaborate apprehension and then make up a warrant. Seemed legit. Glad he tasted freedom so long to bless us with his offspring.  

#sendingtheirbest

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/08/20/world/americas/ap-lt-mexico-us-pregnant-woman-husband-detained.html

 

Nah, you aren't racist at all.

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8 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Not so fast ABC (of course), it must have just killed The NY Times but....

MEXICAN STATE CONFIRMS ICE DETAINEE WANTED FOR HOMICIDE

It’s just a shame he wasn’t able to see the C-sec paid for by American tax payers for his 5th anchor child in 12 years, because ICE agents decided to stage an elaborate apprehension and then make up a warrant. Seemed legit. Glad he tasted freedom so long to bless us with his offspring.  

#sendingtheirbest

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/08/20/world/americas/ap-lt-mexico-us-pregnant-woman-husband-detained.html

 

You monster, couldn’t they have waited until he helped deliver that fifth anchor baby? Have you no decency? 

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8 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Nah, you aren't racist at all.

Nah. You are just a simpleton. Being against illegal immigration regardless of skin color (see Chinese and Russians doing the same thing) is not racist. 

Also, taking a murderer hiding out from another country off the streets is seen as a great thing by most normal people, but here you are defending the fine sensibilities of a murderer fleeing justice. He was even nice enough to leave you 5 tax payer burdens for the next 18 years of their lives. 

But keep beating you faux outrage and scream racist to do everything you can to deflect from the issue. 

Its clear you support illegal murderes over the laws of our country. 

Piss off comrade. 

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49 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Nah. You are just a simpleton. Being against illegal immigration regardless of skin color (see Chinese and Russians doing the same thing) is not racist. 

Also, taking a murderer hiding out from another country off the streets is seen as a great thing by most normal people, but here you are defending the fine sensibilities of a murderer fleeing justice. He was even nice enough to leave you 5 tax payer burdens for the next 18 years of their lives. 

But keep beating you faux outrage and scream racist to do everything you can to deflect from the issue. 

Its clear you support illegal murderes over the laws of our country. 

Piss off comrade. 

Literally no one is saying to keep the guy here if he's a murder, perhaps we're questioning all accusations as ICE has been rounding up people who are here even legally. Pro-tip, it is racist when 99.9% of your posts are about brown immigrants when the majority of them are fleeing violence and other awful situations where they fear for their safety and yet you think they don't deserve to have their claims heard or a path to citizenship. Many of us have posted stories about dealing with undocumented families and the overwhelming desire for them to work hard and forge a better life. 

I also posted before that many of these people were literally denied from seeking asylum legally so they had no choice but to cross the border some other way because they couldn't stay in these shitty border towns where they're susceptible to robbery and kidnapping, but you and your ilk stroke your fascist micro-penis when they get separated from their children. Nope, not racist at all.

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1 hour ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Nah. You are just a simpleton. Being against illegal immigration regardless of skin color (see Chinese and Russians doing the same thing) is not racist. 

Also, taking a murderer hiding out from another country off the streets is seen as a great thing by most normal people, but here you are defending the fine sensibilities of a murderer fleeing justice. He was even nice enough to leave you 5 tax payer burdens for the next 18 years of their lives. 

But keep beating you faux outrage and scream racist to do everything you can to deflect from the issue. 

Its clear you support illegal murderes over the laws of our country. 

Piss off comrade. 

Also it was the sending your best pound sign and not the rest of your post that would be deemed racist IMO

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2 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Nah. You are just a simpleton. Being against illegal immigration regardless of skin color (see Chinese and Russians doing the same thing) is not racist. 

Also, taking a murderer hiding out from another country off the streets is seen as a great thing by most normal people, but here you are defending the fine sensibilities of a murderer fleeing justice. He was even nice enough to leave you 5 tax payer burdens for the next 18 years of their lives. 

But keep beating you faux outrage and scream racist to do everything you can to deflect from the issue. 

Its clear you support illegal murderes over the laws of our country. 

Piss off comrade. 

But when you talk about anchor babies, and criminals, and taxpayers you show your ass. The same goes for wall, thugs, and animals. Those are worn out dog whistles. No one uses those words when discussing illegal immigration from Eastern European countries.

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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

But when you talk about anchor babies, and criminals, and taxpayers you show your ass. The same goes for wall, thugs, and animals. Those are worn out dog whistles. No one uses those words when discussing illegal immigration from Eastern European countries.

All of these posters think that you can only be racist when you directly use a racial slur about someone/some group directly. They completely reject the notion of institutionalized racism.

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7 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

All of these posters think that you can only be racist when you directly use a racial slur about someone/some group directly. They completely reject the notion of institutionalized racism.

Yup.  And then they pretend to wonder why other people don't want to have a  reasoned discussion of overall immigration policy with them.  

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12 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

But when you talk about anchor babies, and criminals, and taxpayers you show your ass. The same goes for wall, thugs, and animals. Those are worn out dog whistles. No one uses those words when discussing illegal immigration from Eastern European countries.

Don't forget "vermin."

 

What how is that racist? You can't be racist against a mouse. Dur

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https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/some-immigrants-seeking-legal-residency-through-marriage-targeted-detention-aclu-alleges

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/judge-to-consider-lawsuit-challenging-immigrant-arrests/2018/08/20/9130fe0c-a486-11e8-ad6f-080770dcddc2_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b1f408779b83

I heard this story on the radio today.  For those that don't care to read/listen, the gist of it is:

  • Non-citizen has been married to a citizen for several years, they have a couple kids
  • They apply for legal residency status based on the marriage
  • Government says it's a legitimate marriage and they're moving the application forward
  • In the meantime, ICE is trying to deport the non-citizen spouse
  • According to the lawsuit, 2016 DHS regulations are intended to allow illegal aliens to seek legal status based on marriage
  • It get stickier because the lawsuit claims the government used the marriage interview as a trap for ICE to detain the non-citizen

It's hard to see what purpose the goverment's actions are trying to serve, beyond scaring people away from marrying immigrants.  This isn't a public safety concern, it's not a "public charge" concern. It just seems anti-immigrant.

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3 hours ago, GSU&UT said:

Literally no one is saying to keep the guy here if he's a murder, perhaps we're questioning all accusations as ICE has been rounding up people who are here even legally. Pro-tip, it is racist when 99.9% of your posts are about brown immigrants when the majority of them are fleeing violence and other awful situations where they fear for their safety and yet you think they don't deserve to have their claims heard or a path to citizenship. Many of us have posted stories about dealing with undocumented families and the overwhelming desire for them to work hard and forge a better life. 

I also posted before that many of these people were literally denied from seeking asylum legally so they had no choice but to cross the border some other way because they couldn't stay in these shitty border towns where they're susceptible to robbery and kidnapping, but you and your ilk stroke your fascist micro-penis when they get separated from their children. Nope, not racist at all.

 

 

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4 hours ago, David Dennison said:

But when you talk about anchor babies, and criminals, and taxpayers you show your ass. The same goes for wall, thugs, and animals. Those are worn out dog whistles. No one uses those words when discussing illegal immigration from Eastern European countries.

A murderer is a thug/animal. Sorry that offends you. Europe doesn’t  have Jus Soli, so their is no such thing as anchor babies.

please find any post where I have called illegal immigrants thugs or animals, I’ll save you the time... you can’t (murders and MS13, not so much).  Anything not bringing up some emotional triumphant story of an illegal immigrant is racism in your mind.  Discussing the costs, strain on resources and drain on welfare and negative effects on the native poor are real issues you NEVER address, and your reasoning is that it is racist to discuss it.  

Discussing inmigration isn’t racist. Keep blowing your dog whistle. Stop being such a small minded simpleton.

Fuck off with your faux racist outrage comrade. 

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Check out those Racists in Japan. They need labor help, but prefer Robots and high skilled labor to unskilled/uneducated economic migrants and refuses to change their immigration policy. Monsters. (Robot monsters)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/03/09/foreigners-could-ease-japans-labor-shortage-but-tokyo-prefers-robots.html

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17 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

A murderer is a thug/animal. Sorry that offends you. Europe doesn’t  have Jus Soli, so their is no such thing as anchor babies.

please find any post where I have called illegal immigrants thugs or animals, I’ll save you the time... you can’t (murders and MS13, not so much).  Anything not bringing up some emotional triumphant story of an illegal immigrant is racism in your mind.  Discussing the costs, strain on resources and drain on welfare and negative effects on the native poor are real issues you NEVER address, and your reasoning is that it is racist to discuss it.  

Discussing inmigration isn’t racist. Keep blowing your dog whistle. Stop being such a small minded simpleton.

Fuck off with your faux racist outrage comrade. 

Stop being racist. It's not a good look.

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I think it's sort of ridiculous to expect any extremely large group of people to all be perfect people. Hell, put together an entire class of University of Texas grads and I'm sure that you'll have a couple rapists and murderers. Doesn't mean the entire group should be discounted unless you're looking for any reason to discount an entire class of people 

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5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I think it's sort of ridiculous to expect any extremely large group of people to all be perfect people. Hell, put together an entire class of University of Texas grads and I'm sure that you'll have a couple rapists and murderers. Doesn't mean the entire group should be discounted unless you're looking for any reason to discount an entire class of people 

 

I absolutely agree.

I was just pointing out it will only fuel the fire more of those that don't believe there has to be some compromise of the build the wall crowd. 

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2 hours ago, GSU&UT said:

This is kind of funny, time to shutdown farms and the GOP until we can figure this out.

 

 

Sadly that just goes back to how shitty our immigration system is and how easy it is to game the system. 

As an Employer if a potential employee has all of the necessary documents to apply for a position and passes checks there isn't a whole hell of a lot more they can do.

It goes back to the government not having their shit together to red flag a suspicious social security number usage among other things. 

 

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31 minutes ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

The illegal alien that killed the Iowa girl spoofed the eVerify somehow and passed it, which to me brings up more wrinkles in immigration reform:

- How do you make reform that is apparently so easy to get around?

- Is this a case where the employer lied or helped an illegal alien to get around the checks?

 

I think for those of us who are for comprehensive immigration reform, issues like this stand out because it highlights that solutions at hand might be poor and the options to be fair and reasonable and yet also drive for accountability and consequence, might not really exist.

I share your bleak outlook reagrding the options at hand. Much like a cancer patient whose tumor had metastasized, simply cutting out the problem is no longer feasible. Even if you could locate the millions of illegal aliens, the mere logistics of deporting them seems insurmountable. Unfortunately, one has to understand when they’re fighting a losing battle, and I think the Republicans may be at that point. Some form of amnesty may be the only route if any hope of bipartisan reform is to be realized. 

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18 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Stop being racist. It's not a good look.

Again... post where I have been racist or shut your cunt mouth. Disagreeing with you fantasies does not amount to racism no matter how big of temper tantrum you throw while stomping your feet on the ground. I’m sure it gets you a glass of milk from mom, but it doesn’t help your empty head/argument. You constantly slander everyone on this board with ZERO proof.  Troll ass should have been sourced long ago, and a big reason why Surly is a shell of the Shagg

Stop being a closed minded bigot.  Keep slandering everyone who makes you feel small as a racist. 

I feel sorry for your mother. 

Being a cunt is your only look. 

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19 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

 

Sadly this isn't the first or the last time a story and a innocent person is used as a political volleyball. It's pretty much par for the course and no matter how disgusting we continue to let the two parties ram it down our throats. It's just a matter of what side of the aisle you sit on to determine how outraged you are about it. That's the reality of the current news/political world we live in.  

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17 hours ago, Captainant said:

I think it's sort of ridiculous to expect any extremely large group of people to all be perfect people. Hell, put together an entire class of University of Texas grads and I'm sure that you'll have a couple rapists and murderers. Doesn't mean the entire group should be discounted unless you're looking for any reason to discount an entire class of people 

Of course you don’t, but it also points out that emotion instead of laws has terrible consequences. Not being able to track who is crossing your borders is going to ALWAYS be a problem. 

 

17 hours ago, Captainant said:

I think it's sort of ridiculous to expect any extremely large group of people to all be perfect people. Hell, put together an entire class of University of Texas grads and I'm sure that you'll have a couple rapists and murderers. Doesn't mean the entire group should be discounted unless you're looking for any reason to discount an entire class of people 

No, it goes to show you that unsecured borders and disregarding our laws have real consequences. 

This is the EXACT reason ALL immigration needs to go through the proper channels and according to law. To not do so is dangerous. 

 

 

You are correct that immigrants legal legal and illegal hate this the most. They are on Whole a wonderful group of hardworking people. Increasing the amount of legal immigrants and expanding the guest worker programs are hard to argue as a negative for the country  

 

There is the rub.   How can you increase Legal immigration when you can’t control the illegal entries at all?  When the number is a million and we can simply look at hospital birth records and verify an extra 500k to that number, that’s a huge problem. And that is just the 250k new borns and mom giving birth. No clue if any other family are in tow, and this doesn’t even touch on any other crossers. You have the hypocritical Democrats who clearly recognized all of these problems and issues (from the mouths of the clintons themselves) but have sold out the country and the middle class to create new voters to keep them in power.  They have no plan or purpose, that’s why their simple minds can only process personal attacks instead of talking about the issues  

 

See Canada  why Justin was asked how Quebec would be reimbursed for the 146 million dollars in cost associated with illegal crossings, his response was

”that’s a racist question”

 

 

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33 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Again... post where I have been racist or shut your cunt mouth. Disagreeing with you fantasies does not amount to racism no matter how big of temper tantrum you throw while stomping your feet on the ground. I’m sure it gets you a glass of milk from mom, but it doesn’t help your empty head/argument. You constantly slander everyone on this board with ZERO proof.  Troll ass should have been sourced long ago, and a big reason why Surly is a shell of the Shagg

Stop being a closed minded bigot.  Keep slandering everyone who makes you feel small as a racist. 

I feel sorry for your mother. 

Being a cunt is your only look. 

You talk about anchor babies. That's a racist dog whistle. Everyone knows it.

You talk about burden on the taxpayer. Also a racist dog whistle used by the right for years.

The way you frame the southern border immigration issue is racist on its face because you say nothing about immigration from anywhere else. You only want to focus on the border where brown people cross.

Stop being racist when you make your arguments and I'll stop pointing out your racism.

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"The way you frame the southern border immigration issue is racist on its face because you say nothing about immigration from anywhere else. You only want to focus on the border where brown people cross."

Are most of the illegal immigrants crossing on Plymouth Rock these days?

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"The way you frame the southern border immigration issue is racist on its face because you say nothing about immigration from anywhere else. You only want to focus on the border where brown people cross."

Are most of the illegal immigrants crossing on Plymouth Rock these days?

Actually, most of them are visa overstays:

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And the bulk of those overstays are NOT latin american.

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14 minutes ago, PW119 said:

"The way you frame the southern border immigration issue is racist on its face because you say nothing about immigration from anywhere else. You only want to focus on the border where brown people cross."

Are most of the illegal immigrants crossing on Plymouth Rock these days?

As Brisket already pointed out, most illegal immigrants are visa overstays. 

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40 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

You talk about anchor babies. That's a racist dog whistle. Everyone knows it.

You talk about burden on the taxpayer. Also a racist dog whistle used by the right for years.

The way you frame the southern border immigration issue is racist on its face because you say nothing about immigration from anywhere else. You only want to focus on the border where brown people cross.

Stop being racist when you make your arguments and I'll stop pointing out your racism.

I'm old enough to remember when someone, I think it was Swam, referred to "anchor babies" on hornfans.  And was criticized by pretty much everyone.  Now the so-called president says worse, and an entire political party either defends it or pretends to look the other way.  And then pretend to wonder why the nonracist people don't want to debate immigration policy with them.

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14 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Actually, most of them are visa overstays:

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And the bulk of those overstays are NOT latin american.

I believe that Mexicans make up close to half of the undocumented population, although it has declined somewhat since 2014. 

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