ERCOT Urging For Energy Conservation

[Cap33 381]

4 minutes ago, mdmost said:

It's not even the hottest part of the year yet. I really should invest in the whole home generator. 

Good luck getting those fuckers to call you back. They're still working on all the orders from a year ago.

[crash_davis 23090]

1 hour ago, Larry T. Spider said:

I assume that is showing energy companies getting higher rates during peak demand times? If so, how do those costs get passed along? I’m sure it’s the consumer in the end but do we all have peak usage stuff in our contracts?

enron was doing this shit in california. shutting down plants to drive up prices. this shit can't be happening in Texas right? 

fucking lulz.

https://www.shortform.com/blog/enron-california-energy-crisis/

Enron took advantage of the rules to manipulate markets, to the detriment of consumers:

• Energy producers kept power plants off to spike prices.

Edited May 13, 2022 by crash_davis

[crash_davis 23090]

dp

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[Judge Roybeanbag 11811]

[Updawg 2263]

This is going to be an expensive summer

[atomheartbevo 89514]

21 minutes ago, Updawg said:

This is going to be an expensive summer

Very.  And we are looking at a generator and a small AC unit.

Edited May 14, 2022 by atomheartbevo

[Nivek 16887]

39 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

enron was doing this shit in california. shutting down plants to drive up prices. this shit can't be happening in Texas right? 

fucking lulz.

of course it can.  A bunch of assholes and incompetents are running the system/state.    

[Dahobbs 17498]

So far my solar has produced about a MWh more than I've used this year. Maybe I need to become a utility on get on this action.  

[immamac 42736]

11 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

So far my solar has produced about a MWh more than I've used this year. Maybe I need to become a utility on get on this action.  

Why you no have battery bank? 

[Dahobbs 17498]

4 minutes ago, immamac said:

Why you no have battery bank? 

I do. Solar just produces a lot of excess in the spring and early summer.

 

 

[immamac 42736]

8 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I do. Solar just produces a lot of excess in the spring and early summer.

 

 

Damn, that's a lot of extra do you draw anything off the grid or does your battery last for days? 

[Brisketexan 104802]

We made it through today, demand is dropping.
But get used to this. It’s the new normal. More brutal temp extremes, and an insufficient energy mix. Not great, Bob.

[Captainant 27523]

Yowza! That's a fucking price spike

[Dahobbs 17498]

32 minutes ago, immamac said:

Damn, that's a lot of extra do you draw anything off the grid or does your battery last for days? 

The battery only drains to 75% usually. I have net metering so I don't need the battery. I do like shifting my grid usage to later in the day to lower the strain. But, if I were to let the battery run down, it would essentially last forever so long as the sun comes out. It'll run about two days on battery only with conservation. 

[Scheiss Meister 8406]

19 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Yowza! That's a fucking price spike

There's no way that would incentivize shutting down a plant or two to expand the bottom line.  No healthy bonuses there, no sir.

[Horns99 155]

jerry jones energy company CFO: "we hit the jackpot again!" probably

Yeah, b/c I’m sure a natural gas company is going to get rich off real time Ercot prices.


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[Bateshorn 9917]

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

The battery only drains to 75% usually. I have net metering so I don't need the battery. I do like shifting my grid usage to later in the day to lower the strain. But, if I were to let the battery run down, it would essentially last forever so long as the sun comes out. It'll run about two days on battery only with conservation. 

Where do you store the battery to keep temp swings from affecting performance?

[David Dennison 18770]

2 hours ago, Updawg said:

This is going to be an expensive summer

Even for co-op customers?

Edited May 14, 2022 by David Dennison

[Dahobbs 17498]

19 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

Where do you store the battery to keep temp swings from affecting performance?

It's in the garage. 

[Judge Roybeanbag 11811]

25 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

Where do you store the battery to keep temp swings from affecting performance?

[Bateshorn 9917]

5 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

You never disappoint 

[Judge Roybeanbag 11811]

23 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

You never disappoint 

In all seriousness, a guy that works for me had a new house built about 2 years ago, included solar and 2 power walls in his garage.  Not sure it will ever pay for itself but he felt good about it and is covered during short outages. 

[crash_davis 23090]

1 hour ago, Horns99 said:

Yeah, b/c I’m sure a natural gas company is going to get rich off real time Ercot prices.


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what the fuck do natural gas power plants use to generate electricity? when more demand is needed, more power plants go online to provide supply for the demand. when more plants go online, more fucking natural gas is needed to power those plants. i'm going to let you read up on how natural gas is priced in the wholesale market.

education, how does it work?

[Updawg 2263]

Very.  And we are looking at a generator and a small AC unit.

I recently bought a generator. Probably should buy a windows unit.

[Schulz2.0 28881]

10 hours ago, Steel Shank said:

I thought Abbott said they fixed it?

[Horns99 155]

what the fuck do natural gas power plants use to generate electricity? when more demand is needed, more power plants go online to provide supply for the demand. when more plants go online, more fucking natural gas is needed to power those plants. i'm going to let you read up on how natural gas is priced in the wholesale market.
education, how does it work?

Education, huh just a few questions for you- what was the price of HSC or Katy if you prefer for the weekend on Friday compared to June or July prices?
How was that Basis to HH relative to how it’s been the mast month or so ?


Where do you think most of Comstocks natty gas sales occur ? Any idea where their transports gets them? Oh, what about how much they sold IFERC vs saved to sell in the spot market ?

I’ll let you read up, I do this shit every day.


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12 hours ago, mdmost said:

It's not even the hottest part of the year yet. I really should invest in the whole home generator.   windmill

FIFY

[atomheartbevo 89514]

17 hours ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

In all seriousness, a guy that works for me had a new house built about 2 years ago, included solar and 2 power walls in his garage.  Not sure it will ever pay for itself but he felt good about it and is covered during short outages. 

I’ve seen some knowledgeable folks speculating that we really should be keeping our AC at 80 or above, and ERCOT is just hoping that because it’s a weekend, we can skate by and enough businesses being closed for the weekend will help,  this was based on what they saw Friday afternoon.  Basically if it was happening Monday, they’d be asking for higher temps over the following days.

 

[Pods 7549]

14 hours ago, Updawg said:

I recently bought a generator. Probably should buy a windows unit.

The newish inverter models are pricier, but use substantially less power. Using one of those would free up some generator capacity for other devices. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19166]

Fuck conservation, my shit's on 72 and I ain't raising it.  But we're on the Entergy grid anyway so don't have to put up with y'alls ghetto ass shit.

[Telegraph_it 3354]

19 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Fuck conservation, my shit's on 72 and I ain't raising it.  But we're on the Entergy grid anyway so don't have to put up with y'alls ghetto ass shit.

This upstairs at 72 for the kids and downstairs 74 until it’s time to sleep and then it’s 70. My most expensive bill last year was ~$200 so the house seems efficient. 
 

Also after trying Griddy the summer before the freezeapoclypse and spending $400 in two days I locked in on a 4 year plan that makes me look a genius now. 

[Paper_jam 831]

Y'all are some energy hogs. I'm doing my part at 79 F, which is tolerable with ceiling fans. Think what Jimmy Carter would want you to do.

I don't think my AC is even strong enough to keep my house at 72, on a hot day. 

 

[elfenix 34207]

no way i could get down to 72 unless it was 40 outside.  79 is fine.  wear shorts and a t-shirt, have an iced drink. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19166]

79 is ok outside, but way too fucking hot for indoors.  I ain't putting up with that shit in my house.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8815]

Y'all are some energy hogs. I'm doing my part at 79 F, which is tolerable with ceiling fans. Think what Jimmy Carter would want you to do.
I don't think my AC is even strong enough to keep my house at 72, on a hot day. 
 

74 is tolerable. 79 is miserable.

[Larry T. Spider 1746]

77 is perfect for me

[totallynotabuttpirate 5375]

Some of you motherfuckers like it hot as shit. I do 70 during the day and 67 at night. No way I’m setting it any higher than that. 

Edited May 15, 2022 by totallynotabuttpirate

[Larry T. Spider 1746]

I used to think we had a mess of a grid. Now I think we have a mess of a grid and people trying to make it snow inside.

[atomheartbevo 89514]

16 minutes ago, Larry T. Spider said:

I used to think we had a mess of a grid. Now I think we have a mess of a grid and people trying to make it snow inside.

Houston is/was the most air-conditioned city on the planet, so it shouldn't be a surprise.

[Okie State 3789]

We typically keep ours at 74 when we're home and that's fine to me. I could go to 76, but higher than that starts to suck. Seems like everyone else I know keeps theirs at 68-70 which seems insane to me. No thanks to $500 electricity bills.

Thankfully my new house has more shade and badass windows. We'll see how that works out during the Summer months.

[Neonmoon 38127]

Wife keeps ours between 76-78

I’ve lost the battle and war 

[The Dog 43884]

3 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Wife keeps ours between 76-78

I’ve lost the battle and war 

Welcome to the club.

[Telegraph_it 3354]

58 minutes ago, Larry T. Spider said:

I used to think we had a mess of a grid. Now I think we have a mess of a grid and people trying to make it snow inside.

Don’t worry. I leave Houston for at least a month between July and August for Wyoming and set the house to 82 the entire time. Doing my part. 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5375]

9 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Wife keeps ours between 76-78

I’ve lost the battle and war 

Luckily, I was able to make our whole upstairs my theater/mancave/office/workshop. So she gets to keep it 73 downstairs and there's no more bitching. 

Unfortunately it took me 9 years of living in the house to figure that out. 

[closetohumping 17416]

5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I’ve seen some knowledgeable folks speculating that we really should be keeping our AC at 80 or above, and ERCOT is just hoping that because it’s a weekend, we can skate by and enough businesses being closed for the weekend will help,  this was based on what they saw Friday afternoon.  Basically if it was happening Monday, they’d be asking for higher temps over the following days.

 

I wish these Californians would stop bringing their politics to Texas!!

Edited May 15, 2022 by closetohumping

[atomheartbevo 89514]

18 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Wife keeps ours between 76-78

I’ve lost the battle and war 

15 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Welcome to the club.

Are we married to sisters?  Anything lower than 78 during the day and she claims I'm freezing her.

[Radical Larry 28533]

I used to think we had a mess of a grid. Now I think we have a mess of a grid and people trying to make it snow inside.

[rage-a-holic 4317]

On 5/13/2022 at 7:26 PM, immamac said:

Why you no have battery bank? 

How much do you think they cost? They aren't cheap.

[immamac 42736]

9 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

How much do you think they cost? They aren't cheap.

1.5Mwh is not cheap. Battery makes sense there. 

[Bigbend1812 12908]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Wife keeps ours between 76-78

I’ve lost the battle and war