These Go to 11 - The Guitar Amp Thread

[Goredho 17181]

Not sure if this is the right thread, but anyone got any experience with JBL IRX-112BT powered PA speakers?

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/IRX112BT--jbl-irx-112bt-powered-12-inch-portable-speaker-with-bluetooth

Edit:  Or maybe the similar 10" or 15" versions?

 

Edited March 25, 2020 by Goredho

[tbone_ 13991]

We use something similar for our band and acoustic stuff. My take is they are all pretty similar except for QSC which are really top notch.

[Goredho 17181]

9 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

We use something similar for our band and acoustic stuff. My take is they are all pretty similar except for QSC which are really top notch.

Thanks.

[BrickHorn 18072]

3 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

Which amp is that? I have a vintage Princeton Reverb for cleans but for dirt I’d like to pair it with something else. Maybe an Orange. I don’t really play metal. Classic rock/blues/country is where I am.

In that case, I’d get some kind of Marshall.  My personal fave is that 18 Watt model.  But that’s really only available as a clone.  

Or you could go with a class A low wattage amp, of the Fender tweed variety.  There are a lot of reasonably priced boutique options for those.

Edited March 25, 2020 by BrickHorn

[hullabelew 3698]

Not sure if this is the right thread, but anyone got any experience with JBL IRX-112BT powered PA speakers?

 

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/IRX112BT--jbl-irx-112bt-powered-12-inch-portable-speaker-with-bluetooth

 

Edit:  Or maybe the similar 10" or 15" versions?

 

 

I looked at those and the EV. Couldn't pull the trigger on the QSC but will some day. Went with the EVs over the JBLs. Just liked the sound a little better over the JBL. But it was close.

 

[Goredho 17181]

Just now, hullabelew said:

1 hour ago, Goredho said:

Not sure if this is the right thread, but anyone got any experience with JBL IRX-112BT powered PA speakers?

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/IRX112BT--jbl-irx-112bt-powered-12-inch-portable-speaker-with-bluetooth

Edit:  Or maybe the similar 10" or 15" versions?

 

I looked at those and the EV. Couldn't pull the trigger on the QSC bit will some day. Went with the EVs over the JBLs. Just liked the sound a little better over the JBL. But it was close.

Thanks.

[tbone_ 13991]

In that case, I’d get some kind of Marshall.  My personal fave is that 18 Watt model.  But that’s really only available as a clone.  
Or you could go with a class A low wattage amp, of the Fender tweed variety.  There are a lot of reasonably priced boutique options for those.

Or just stick a good MIB pedal in front of the clean amp.

[Chad Fuck 17309]

Or just stick a good MIB pedal in front of the clean amp.

Yeah but then I’d be looking for a pedal. And that’s worthy, but another thread.

[Napoleon 8580]

I was looking for this thread, but didn't find it. Thanks to hullabelew, now I know it exists.

Wondering if this would be a good starter kit for someone just learning to play the guitar? or if I need to go bigger?

 

Actually, I'm looking at the BOSS KATANA 50, because it has plenty of sounds to play around with for starters and I would save on pedals at the start.

 

I've got a 20% OFF Discount that I can use at Musician's Friend that will take the $229.99 down to $184 pre-tax and with Free shipping.

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[Celery Man 20607]

It's a great amp for that purpose, or in general.  If you go that route and want to play around with what's available, get a boss fs-6 (to switch channels/allow for more channels) and a usb to usb-b cable (to connect to a computer).

[Buzzrock 14785]

I have an old windows tablet that I keep hooked to mine, basically operates like a giant touchscreen control panel.

[hullabelew 3698]

On the "go bigger" question, I think that Katana is a great starting point.   I have a buddy who was just learning to play the guitar at the age of 40.   So he orders a Strat from Fender.  When he was going amp shopping, I told him to ask what they suggest, and then go one or two steps down from there.  He needed a Champ or a Blues Jr at the MOST.  Dude lives in a condo.  He shows up at my house with a fucking Hot Rod Deluxe.  Thing is louder than fuck and very, very bright.    I sat in on a New Years Eve show with some guys with his Strat and that amp and it was too loud for that set up.  I told him to take it back and get a Blues Jr.  He comes back with a Deluxe Reverb which he NEVER plays because it is still too loud for his living situation.  

I dig that setup Buzz.  When this shit is over with, we need to go grab a cocktail and support our local bartenders.  

Edited April 8, 2020 by hullabelew

[BrickHorn 18072]

Ironically, my two most unusably loud amps are the lowest wattage.  My Swart is a 5 Watt motherfucker.  It sounds great but is LOUD.  The Class 5 is too loud on the full power setting.  

I get great tone at lower volumes out of higher wattage amps like my AC15 and Royal Atlantic (thanks to the on-board attenuator).  

[hullabelew 3698]

OK.  I need to replace the speaker in my 65 DR.  I had a list at one time of my top picks from this thread, but I can't find it on my Sweetwater or Amazon lists. 

So, what say you boys and girls?    

[Foggy Notion 1198]

9 minutes ago, hullabelew said:

OK.  I need to replace the speaker in my 65 DR.  I had a list at one time of my top picks from this thread, but I can't find it on my Sweetwater or Amazon lists. 

So, what say you boys and girls?    

I’ve looked at replacement speakers quite a bit for my 64 DR. I haven’t pulled the trigger yet, but these are my top two...

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GA-SC64--eminence-ga-sc64-signature-12-inch-guitar-speaker
 

https://www.tedweber.com/12f150
 

[tbone_ 13991]

I put Warehouses in my Pro Reverb. They are damn good.

There are so many good speakers out there these days. Kind of hard to go wrong.

[Deej 76219]

If I ever swap the speaker in my Princeton, it will be with a Warehouse.

[Buzzrock 14785]

On the "go bigger" question, I think that Katana is a great starting point.   I have a buddy who was just learning to play the guitar at the age of 40.   So he orders a Strat from Fender.  When he was going amp shopping, I told him to ask what they suggest, and then go one or two steps down from there.  He needed a Champ or a Blues Jr at the MOST.  Dude lives in a condo.  He shows up at my house with a fucking Hot Rod Deluxe.  Thing is louder than fuck and very, very bright.    I sat in on a New Years Eve show with some guys with his Strat and that amp and it was too loud for that set up.  I told him to take it back and get a Blues Jr.  He comes back with a Deluxe Reverb which he NEVER plays because it is still too loud for his living situation.  
I dig that setup Buzz.  When this shit is over with, we need to go grab a cocktail and support our local bartenders.  

That will be a glorious day my friend.

[BoomMF 1396]

7 hours ago, hullabelew said:

OK.  I need to replace the speaker in my 65 DR.  I had a list at one time of my top picks from this thread, but I can't find it on my Sweetwater or Amazon lists. 

So, what say you boys and girls?    

Might I suggest you take this opportunity to stop fuckin' around:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/G10Gold8--celestion-g10-gold-10-inch-40-watt-alnico-replacement-guitar-speaker-8-ohm

[Rip76 4883]

Best looking and sounding acoustic for the price?

Under $800

[Rip76 4883]

Just now, Rip76 said:

Best looking and sounding acoustic for the price?

This Corona has me writing songs like a MF'er.

Under $800

 

[tbone_ 13991]

Not sure if you can get all wood for that price range but of the top of my head I’d say a Taylor 1 or 2 series, Martin Road series. Maybe high level seagull.

 

[topochico 1048]

Seagull SWS series and Yamaha Red label can get you all solid wood and great sound at that price point. You do probably sacrifice some laminated beauty for it, but worth in IMO. 
 

Wait this is the amp thread... are we talking acoustic amps?  No clue there...

Edited April 14, 2020 by topochico

[Rip76 4883]

Complete apology on my part.  This is the amp thread.

I’ll take this to the guitar thread.

Edited April 14, 2020 by Rip76

[Chad Fuck 17309]

Complete apology on my part.  This is the amp thread.
I’ll take this to the guitar thread.

Pretty forgiving lot here. So long as there’s pics.

[tbone_ 13991]

And as long as its really built from scratch.

[hullabelew 3698]

I put Warehouses in my Pro Reverb. They are damn good.

There are so many good speakers out there these days. Kind of hard to go wrong.

Warehouse. Couldn't remember that name. That and the first one Foggy posted were the two I had it narrowed down to. Came remember which Warehouse I liked bit I have a starting place now. Thanks

[dcbc 14282]

As far as speakers go, if you can find a late 1960s C12N for not stupid money, get it.  It will blow you away.

For reproduction, I'd be looking at Eminence GA-SC64, Jupiter 12LC, or the old reliable Weber 12F150.

[tbone_ 13991]

I had the original baskets reconed in my super. Sounds great. So that’s an option too.

[BoomMF 1396]

Blinged the Katana a bit. It was easier than I thought it would be. Inspired, I looked at maybe doing something similar with a Marshall or two but hell no, those grill assemblies were designed by human-hating demons.

Edited April 15, 2020 by BoomMF

[Buzzrock 14785]

That’s hot.

[Foggy Notion 1198]

On 4/14/2020 at 8:54 PM, dcbc said:

As far as speakers go, if you can find a late 1960s C12N for not stupid money, get it.  It will blow you away.

For reproduction, I'd be looking at Eminence GA-SC64, Jupiter 12LC, or the old reliable Weber 12F150.

Do you have any experience with the Eminence or the Weber? Or just any thoughts on the two? As I mentioned above, I haven’t been able to decide between the two. I do like that the Weber can be custom ordered in different basket colors, dust caps and doping levels. But I’ve never heard either speaker in real life, only in videos. 

[hullabelew 3698]

On 4/15/2020 at 10:47 AM, tbone_ said:

I had the original baskets reconed in my super. Sounds great. So that’s an option too.

I wanted to do that but someone has replaced the original speaker.   

[Rip76 4883]

Holy Sh*t

 

 

[Bogeywon 2518]

I’m torn between a new guitar or amp
I have a mesa single rec head with a Marshall 1960a cab

also I have a fender 2x12 hot rod deville. 
 

what kinda Marshall should I get or orange. 
Or anything I should research? 

I play anything from deftones to blues. So a multi purpose would be good. 

 

[tbone_ 13991]

I wanted to do that but someone has replaced the original speaker.   

One of mine was missing. So I bought a correct one off Reverb.

[tbone_ 13991]

I’m torn between a new guitar or amp
I have a mesa single rec head with a Marshall 1960a cab
also I have a fender 2x12 hot rod deville. 
 
what kinda Marshall should I get or orange. 
Or anything I should research? 
I play anything from deftones to blues. So a multi purpose would be good. 
 

If you really want something versatile I’d look at the Mesa Mark V 35.

[dcbc 14282]

5 hours ago, Foggy Notion said:

Do you have any experience with the Eminence or the Weber? Or just any thoughts on the two? As I mentioned above, I haven’t been able to decide between the two. I do like that the Weber can be custom ordered in different basket colors, dust caps and doping levels. But I’ve never heard either speaker in real life, only in videos. 

I had the Weber 12F150 in my 73 DR for the better part of a year.  It's a fine speaker.  The only thing that replaced it was the vintage 1968 C12N that is in there now.  The Weber is really robust and loud.  Weber also offers free break in service.  I have alnico Webers (or eminence by Weber) in all 5 of my tweed amps.

I had a Jupiter in my 75 Princeton Reverb.  These are made by warehouse, but they have the fit and finish of an old school speaker.

I have no experience with the GA Emi, but it has quite a reputation.

Forgive the ham fisted noddling, but this is the 1968 Jensen in the 73 DR.  It has a reedines that I never have heard from a modern speaker.  I have four of them.  They spent many years absorbing tobacco smoke in a small Houston music store (and probably elsewhere) to achieve this lovely tone.

 

 

Edited April 16, 2020 by dcbc

[dcbc 14282]

Every once in a while, I start thinking maybe I have too many tweed amps, and my eyes invariably get fixed on my Clark Penrose (5f4 Super Clone).  The thing is an absolute work of art with no detail ignored.  But I've never felt it just sing.  In fact, I've had moments where I thought it was kind of dull sounding.  Well, tonight, things changed.  And it's been my fault.  But I gave it a bit of a perfect storm tonight and it just sang! 

I don't think the formula with this amp is any secret.  Normal channel.  Vol. at 4 or 5.  Get the treble knob up over 6 (out of 12).  From there, it becomes a grit knob.  Bring in the bass, depending on the guitar.  Then, dial in the presence.  Also, for this run, I was using a Les Paul Traditional with the 59 tribute pickups.  I think the combination of the humbuckers and getting that treble knob over half way was the trick.  No more dull, sterile sound, feeling like I really have to dig in to feel it.  I think it might even work with the tele afterall.  Just needs more tone knobs.

Every one of these tweeds is a totally different animal as far as getting them dialed in.  

Edited April 22, 2020 by dcbc

[Chad Fuck 17309]

This 64 Super is up for sale on the North Texas Guitar Trader FB page for $2750. I have zero need for such an amp but it is so clean and petty.



One of you guys should grab it.

[Chad Fuck 17309]

This 64 Super is up for sale on the North Texas Guitar Trader FB page for $2750. I have zero need for such an amp but it is so clean and petty.



One of you guys should grab it.

[tbone_ 13991]

Pricey. But damn it should should glorious.

[Buzzrock 14785]

How about an amp that you can’t afford and is too loud to use anyway?


Fender Original Twin Reverb Prototype 1962/63 Black https://reverb.com/item/6736049-fender-original-twin-reverb-prototype-1962-63-black?utm_source=rev-ios-app&utm_medium=ios-share&utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=6736049

[dcbc 14282]

13 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

This 64 Super is up for sale on the North Texas Guitar Trader FB page for $2750. I have zero need for such an amp but it is so clean and petty.



One of you guys should grab it.

I'll bet it sounds unreal, but in Philadelphia, it's worth . . . . 

[tbone_ 13991]

There was a 66 in the local GC here forever for 1700

[Chad Fuck 17309]

There was a 66 in the local GC here forever for 1700

I think if you’re into big amps, nows the time to buy. Smaller is definitely in when I’m seeing boutique 1 x 10s for $1200. The pendulum will swing back again one day.

[Chad Fuck 17309]

There was a 66 in the local GC here forever for 1700

I think if you’re into big amps, nows the time to buy. Smaller is definitely in when I’m seeing boutique 1 x 10s for $1200. The pendulum will swing back again one day.

[dcbc 14282]

15 hours ago, tbone_ said:

There was a 66 in the local GC here forever for 1700

I've seen early 70s silver face Super Reverbs (no master volume) with the CTS alnico speakers for around $800  Those were very tempting, but very hard to sell these days if I wanted to. 

I have too many amps as it is, including a 4x10 and a 2x12.  So I'm not discriminating. :)

[Deej 76219]

I just don't see the big amps going back up in price any time soon.

[tbone_ 13991]

I've seen early 70s silver face Super Reverbs (no master volume) with the CTS alnico speakers for around $800  Those were very tempting, but very hard to sell these days if I wanted to. 
I have too many amps as it is, including a 4x10 and a 2x12.  So I'm not discriminating.

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