These Go to 11 - The Guitar Amp Thread

[Deej 77,824]

I'll just leave Robben Ford playing some jazzy shit on a Tele here for you.

 

[topochico 1,051]

1 hour ago, Deej said:

Stop discouraging a kid who wants a Tele. The world needs more Tele players. Plus, if he can learn on a Tele, he will be able to play any guitar well. 

OK, Boomer.

[Deej 77,824]

People who dislike Teles are just mad they can't hide their crappy playing on one. 

[BoomMF 1,402]

Reminds me of this FB group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/366844200852428

[topochico 1,051]

1 minute ago, Deej said:

People who dislike Teles are just mad they can't hide their crappy playing on one. 

Wrong again! I hide my crappy guitar playing by playing bass instead. 

[Deej 77,824]

3 minutes ago, BoomMF said:

Reminds me of this FB group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/366844200852428

"Tone is stored in the balls."

Lulz

[Handcruser 2,815]

Big Tele fan here. But I’d buy that kid a 339 with P-90’s to accompany the Tele and LP you buy for him on the same trip.


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[AnotherUTFan 9,985]

I'll save it for the other thread. New Telecaster project incoming. Just bit on an incredible looking body that was in stock at Warmoth. Ordered everything else but the electronics too.

[Chad Fuck 18,135]

Agree with the above, window shop with him at a GC and see if there is a style he likes. Is a Tele the tone and look he is wanting?  A squire HSS strat would cover a lot of ground in the $400 range. Epiphone Les Paul or SG also fall in that price zone. Kids at my son's music lesson class also seem to gravitate to Schecter. If he likes it, he will definitely play it more. 

For amps: Boss Katana-50, Roland Cube or a  Fender Mustang. Any good modeling amp will let him play around with clean and dirty tones to find his style.
 

Despite all the noise, this is the right answer. Go with him, let him play a variety of guitars. There are literally thousands of perfectly good guitars at this price point. See which one fits.

An entry level/ practice modeling amp is also a great idea.

It’s like shoes. If you buy a badass pair that looks cool, but doesn’t fit right, you aren’t gonna wear them. To further overuse metaphors, you are less like to wear the sweater grandma bought you for Christmas than the one you picked yourself.

[Chad Fuck 18,135]

I'll just leave Robben Ford playing some jazzy shit on a Tele here for you.
 

The “Ok Boomer” fairly leaps off the screen.

[Rollo Tomassi 80]

1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

Despite all the noise, this is the right answer. Go with him, let him play a variety of guitars. There are literally thousands of perfectly good guitars at this price point. See which one fits.

An entry level/ practice modeling amp is also a great idea.

It’s like shoes. If you buy a badass pair that looks cool, but doesn’t fit right, you aren’t gonna wear them. To further overuse metaphors, you are less like to wear the sweater grandma bought you for Christmas than the one you picked yourself.

I'll definitely do this.  Thoughts on that entry level modeling amp?

[Chad Fuck 18,135]

Just now, Rollo Tomassi said:

I'll definitely do this.  Thoughts on that entry level modeling amp?

I think the ones topo mentioned are all fine.  Line 6 was the initial leader in this area and anything by them is probably OK as well.  I used to have a Fender Cyber Champ, and it was a good little modeling amp.  I sold it to a friend in your exact situation.  I also have played this Yamaha and thought it was a solid starter/practice amp with lots of good tones:  https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/THR10II--yamaha-thr10-ii-10-watt-2x3-inch-modeling-combo?mrkgadid=3360585861&mrkgcl=28&mrkgen=gpla&mrkgbflag=0&mrkgcat=guitars&acctid=21700000001645388&dskeywordid=92700049291857911&lid=92700049291857911&ds_s_kwgid=58700005416698240&ds_s_inventory_feed_id=97700000007215323&dsproductgroupid=833092176224&product_id=THR10II&prodctry=US&prodlang=en&channel=online&storeid=&device=c&network=g&matchtype=&locationid=9026915&creative=393031350618&targetid=pla-833092176224&campaignid=1465808371&gclid=Cj0KCQiAqdP9BRDVARIsAGSZ8AnrgjFuv_kGqvTta5sGfD8-CRm6gBQEZQyI6pW1i4hmvkBrvvGcsvgaAgKyEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

I know there are various opinions here about this, but if you want to save a buck or two, I wouldn't hesitate to go for used equipment.  Anything you walk out the door with new is going to take a hit on depreciation.  Tons of people have bought guitars then stuck them in the closet, then taken them right back to GC who buys them back for not much and sells them for a pretty good deal.  Same deal with amps.  On the off chance you walk into GC and see one of the ones mentioned here, give it a whirl.  My experience is if a piece of electrical equipment lasts for 30 days, it's just as likely to last for 30 years if you care for it.  

As far as technical support for modeling amps and their software/support, that's something I have less experience with.  If your kid is tech focused, that may be important to him and therefore you may want to buy something new that is guaranteed to have tech support.  If he isn't, he may be just as well to get a used model and just go with whatever it already has onboard.  There is definitely a point of option overload so avoid too many whistles and bells.  Simpler is likely better for a beginner.  

[tbone_ 14,444]

Amp pron. Just because. And yes I know, one is not like the others.

[hullabelew 3,730]

@tbone_  I just love that setup.  

[tbone_ 14,444]

Thanks. Getting that Pro on the top shelf isn’t fun. I may buy a fork lift.

[Deej 77,824]

On 11/18/2020 at 12:32 PM, tbone_ said:

Amp pron. Just because. And yes I know, one is not like the others.

 

Edited November 20, 2020 by Deej

[Deej 77,824]

I have so many amps that I sometimes forget about some of them. Picked this head up a few years ago and forgot about it after it stopped putting out sound. Just needed a new rectifier tube. 

 

Edited November 22, 2020 by Deej

[BoomMF 1,402]

This is these guys at their best, imo:

 

 

[Buzzrock 15,136]

Turned on the Bassbreaker the other day and couldn’t figure out why it sounded so damn good. I ran four different guitars through it and loved every one. 
 

I had left my Shaggy Screamer on. 

[AnotherUTFan 9,985]

They will do that, or so I've heard

I've had this Marshall Origin 50 as my main thing for about a year now. Straight in, with a Telecaster since the pandemic mostly. Great amplifier. Probably the best money I've ever spent on an amp pound for pound.

[hullabelew 3,730]

This young guitarist I know has been talking up those Origin 50s for a while now.  Do you have the combo or a head?  

[AnotherUTFan 9,985]

Combo.

[CHIEF 5,228]

I told Mrs. CHIEF that I didn't want anything for Christmas, and then this showed up this morning:

I've been bitching about my '84 Seymour Duncan Convertible, you need to be an EE to keep it running. I guess she did some research, I told her my old amp was a modeling amp, and  this one is too. I'm a tube guy, not sure about this solid state stuff.

CHIEF

[Rip76 5,022]

Finally got the Peavey Classic 30 on order.

 

[tbone_ 14,444]

Cool on the positive grid. Any reviews yet?

When does the C30 show up? Love to hear what you think about it.

[Rip76 5,022]

25 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Cool on the positive grid. Any reviews yet?

When does the C30 show up? Love to hear what you think about it.

12/31, I will certainly let you know.   They’re running Celestino’s now so I don’t know if that will make a huge difference.  
 

I just can’t be lugging this around all the time.

 

[tbone_ 14,444]

Sure you can!

I put a Celestion in my C30. So much better than the whatever speaker that was in there stock.

[Rip76 5,022]

5 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Sure you can!

I put a Celestion in my C30. So much better than the whatever speaker that was in there stock.
 

Blue Marvel I believe.

[tbone_ 14,444]

Yea that’s it. Wasn’t bad but the V 30 is better.

[Buzzrock 15,136]

40 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

12/31, I will certainly let you know.   They’re running Celestino’s now so I don’t know if that will make a huge difference.  
 

I just can’t be lugging this around all the time.

 

Well not with that attitude. 

[Rip76 5,022]

Haha “Celestino’s”. Fing autocorrect.

[CHIEF 5,228]

On 12/29/2020 at 4:09 PM, tbone_ said:

Cool on the positive grid. Any reviews yet?

When does the C30 show up? Love to hear what you think about it.

Definitely just a practice amp, still getting familiar. Not really being an electric guitarist, I am having to research how the virtual pedals to the virtual amps affect the sound. Definitely worth the money. It's good at pinning down a sound that you want in a main amp, so you can then, buy the setup in real life.

CHIEF

[tbone_ 14,444]

Pulled the trigger on a new Bose L1 Pro16 and Tonematch T4S mixer today.

I have 45 days to decide if it’s $2,500 worth of better sound than what I’m already using. I do like the idea of carrying less shit though.

[tbone_ 14,444]

[Buzzrock 15,136]

Are there multiple models of that Bose? A buddy of mine had one that looked like that and it sounded damn good for acoustic gigs.

[tbone_ 14,444]

Yes.

The current generation just introduced in December is L1 Pro 8, 16, and 32.

Honestly I’m not loving it. Guitar just sounds ok. Singer came over and tried out vocals and it wasn’t great at all. Clear but no real life.

We’re going to a/b it tonight with our regular rig, which sounds off the charts good for vocals. And decent enough on the guitar.

[tbone_ 14,444]

Taking the Bose back today.

A/B’d against the current set up last night. Vocals not even close on the Bose to our current set up. Guitar was ok, definitely more bass, but no way was it $2,500 worth of better.

I was pretty surprised at how lifeless the vocals were. And I tweaked it quite a bit.

QSC and TC Helicon ftw I guess.

[Rip76 5,022]

On 12/29/2020 at 4:09 PM, tbone_ said:

Cool on the positive grid. Any reviews yet?

When does the C30 show up? Love to hear what you think about it.

I freaking dig it, a lot.  Totally enough power too.  Just set it all at noon, and get it.

But!, (possibly during shipping or just and issue with the C30), hearing some tube rattle.  Almost if one is microphonic.

Edited January 7, 2021 by Rip76

[hullabelew 3,730]

@tbone_  I'm loving that TC Duplicator.  Thanks for the recommendation.  At some point, I'm going to upgrade to QSC and just use my JBL as a monitor.  

[tbone_ 14,444]

Glad you like the duplicator.

You will be blown away by how much better the QSC is if you upgrade.

[Deej 77,824]

https://www.gearnews.com/namm-2021-fender-drops-three-new-amplifiers/

[tbone_ 14,444]

That pro will be nice with a mid knob. I had mine modded to add a mid knob. Makes a big difference.

[tbone_ 14,444]

Not that you can tell from this picture but the speed is a mid and intensity is now a depth knob. And warehouse speakers. Sounds great.

[Buzzrock 15,136]

I should have picked up an old Fender a few years back. They are all so pricey now.

[AnotherUTFan 9,985]

Not that you can tell from this picture but the speed is a mid and intensity is now a depth knob. And warehouse speakers. Sounds great.

Whats the thinking here? Personally, I use the fuck out of the Vibrato on my old amps that have it. Me and Magic Sam.

I should have picked up an old Fender a few years back. They are all so pricey now.

Paging FoggyNotion. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.

[tbone_ 14,444]

The thinking is it sounds way better and I never use the vibrato anyway. These amps need the mid turned up.

[Deej 77,824]

Baby Marshall incoming...!!!

 

[Chad Fuck 18,135]

2 minutes ago, Deej said:

Baby Marshall incoming...!!!

 

This guy is hilarious.

[noharleyyet 2,864]

On 11/17/2020 at 7:32 PM, Deej said:

I'll just leave Robben Ford playing some jazzy shit on a Tele here for you.

 

Clean...and so distinctive, instantly recognizeable. 

[Bogeywon 2,548]

What should I offer for a Marshall JCM2000 head? It’s in near mint condition