These Go to 11 - The Guitar Amp Thread

[G650 14440]

Hey @jimmyjazz it just occurred to me there is another amp that might be what you are looking for, Fender Bassbreaker. Not expensive and easy to move if you want when you are done

[jimmyjazz 47221]

14 minutes ago, G650 said:

Hey @jimmyjazz it just occurred to me there is another amp that might be what you are looking for, Fender Bassbreaker. Not expensive and easy to move if you want when you are done

I'll look into it.  Tube or SS or hybrid or modeling?

I cajoled my daughter's boyfriend into loaning me his Blues Junior for my rehearsal this week, so the pressure is off a bit.  I still need another amp, though.  I mean, one amp is embarassing.

[G650 14440]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I mean, one amp is embarassing

Clearly.

 

The BB is an EL84 based amp. Like 400 bucks used? But there are a shitload of them out there and you could always get back what you paid.

[BrickHorn 18447]

@jimmyjazz - Just perusing CL and there are a bunch of options, including a used Tony Bruno (in case you want a like-for-like backup).

Peavey Classic 20. Probably fairly similar to the Delta Blues, but 10 watts less power and a smaller speaker. 

Vox AC10. I’ve never played through one, but I assume it’s similar to my AC15 which I really like as a gigging amp / pedal platform. Speaking of, there’s an AC15 that’s $100 cheaper. 

Finally, this Nace Pro 18 might be a good option. From video reviews, it sounds pretty good.

 

Edited July 3, 2023 by BrickHorn

[G650 14440]

21 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

 

Peavey Classic 20. Probably fairly similar to the Delta Blues, but 10 watts less power and a smaller speaker. 

Ooh, Classic 30 another one I forgot about. I still have a Classic 50 somewhere, though I haven't seen it in probably close to 20 years.

[Chad Fuck 18141]

44 minutes ago, G650 said:

Ooh, Classic 30 another one I forgot about. I still have a Classic 50 somewhere, though I haven't seen it in probably close to 20 years.

Classic 30 is just a great all around amp.  

[jimmyjazz 47221]

2 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Classic 30 is just a great all around amp.  

I believe that's what Scrappy Jud used to play.  He made it sound glorious.

@BrickHorn, etc.  thanks for all the legwork.  I have some things to consider for sure.

[AnotherUTFan 9991]

It's too bad, I have a Classic 30 I intend to sell, but I think shipping would be cost prohibitive.

[G650 14440]

18 minutes ago, AnotherUTFan said:

It's too bad, I have a Classic 30 I intend to sell, but I think shipping would be cost prohibitive.

Probably about 100 bucks I would guess

[BrickHorn 18447]

59 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

@BrickHorn, etc.  thanks for all the legwork.  I have some things to consider for sure.

Don't mention it! Also, don’t fuck this up.

[jimmyjazz 47221]

Oh, hell yes:  just found out I have an in with Fender for a 50% discount.  Might be NEW new amp time.  Thinking any of the single speaker models.  15 watts is "enough" . . . but 40 watts, well, that's just better, right?

Don't want to pull the trigger on the Deluxe Reverb, even at half price.

[jimmyjazz 47221]

I'm being pulled hard to the Blues Deluxe Reissue:

[tbone_ 14451]

I'm being pulled hard to the Blues Deluxe Reissue:

Get that. It will be loud af but get it anyway.

Count me as a plus 1 on the Classic 30. I have one. Great amp. I actually went to the music store one day all set to fall in love with a $2500 Mesa mark 5 and came home with a $600 Classic 30 instead. Sounded better.

[BrickHorn 18447]

1 hour ago, tbone_ said:

Count me as a plus 1 on the Classic 30. I have one. Great amp. I actually went to the music store one day all set to fall in love with a $2500 Mesa mark 5 and came home with a $600 Classic 30 instead. Sounded better.

@jimmyjazz sold me a Delta Blues years ago, which is basically a Classic 30 with a couple additional / different features. Phenomenal amp. Maybe the best cleans on any amp I’ve ever owned. 

[jimmyjazz 47221]

Yeah, that was dumb on my part.  What a great amp.  15" speaker, right?

[tbone_ 14451]

Did you sell it with a call option?

[jimmyjazz 47221]

Don't even tell me what it's worth.

[BrickHorn 18447]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Don't even tell me what it's worth.

About what I paid you for it. There are plenty available on the used market.

[jimmyjazz 47221]

Any knowledge on the difference between the Blues Deluxe Reissue and the Hot Rod Deluxe IV?  Both are 40 watts, 3 x 12AX7, 2 x 6L6.  Both have a single 12" speaker, although the Hot Rod has a Celestion and the Blues Deluxe has an Eminence.  Hot Rod has 3 channels (normal, drive, full drive) whereas the Blue Deluxe has two (normal, drive).

Are they close to the same amp with a 3rd gain stage available for the Hot Rod?  Something has to give, they're the same price.  Maybe the speaker?

[dcbc 14644]

6 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Any knowledge on the difference between the Blues Deluxe Reissue and the Hot Rod Deluxe IV?  Both are 40 watts, 3 x 12AX7, 2 x 6L6.  Both have a single 12" speaker, although the Hot Rod has a Celestion and the Blues Deluxe has an Eminence.  Hot Rod has 3 channels (normal, drive, full drive) whereas the Blue Deluxe has two (normal, drive).

Are they close to the same amp with a 3rd gain stage available for the Hot Rod?  Something has to give, they're the same price.  Maybe the speaker?

If you're in the 40 watt range, just get the Bassman Ltd already.

[jimmyjazz 47221]

10 hours ago, dcbc said:

If you're in the 40 watt range, just get the Bassman Ltd already.

That's way out of budget.

[tbone_ 14451]

Based on the hot rod that I used to own you’ll never use the drive channel. Clean and pedals is where it’s at.

Not sure on the differences.

If you are looking Fender though id seriously give that 2 knob version I linked earlier a look.

[jimmyjazz 47221]

1 hour ago, tbone_ said:

If you are looking Fender though id seriously give that 2 knob version I linked earlier a look.

I'm actually going to play one today -- the Pro Jr IV.  This one is an "SE" version, different speaker from what I can tell.

[jimmyjazz 47221]

7 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm actually going to play one today -- the Pro Jr IV.  This one is an "SE" version, different speaker from what I can tell.

Grabbed it with a return option.  FIrst impressions -- it's bright, and probably not loud enough.  We'll see at rehearsal.

[Chad Fuck 18141]

Grabbed it with a return option.  FIrst impressions -- it's bright, and probably not loud enough.  We'll see at rehearsal.

Looking forward to the full report. Pics?

[jimmyjazz 47221]

On 7/7/2023 at 6:44 AM, Chad Fuck said:

Looking forward to the full report. Pics?

It was . . . alright.  Honestly, a pair might not suck, and it would open up the opportunity for (mild) stereo effects.  It's pretty much a garage rock amp, which is consistent with what we're doing, nobody's gonna play metal through this thing without a pedal.  It's light in the low end as one would expect, but I'm not sure that's a big deal.

Basically, the jury is out.  Need more time.  Here it is with a partscaster for scale:

[Chad Fuck 18141]

It was . . . alright.  Honestly, a pair might not suck, and it would open up the opportunity for (mild) stereo effects.  It's pretty much a garage rock amp, which is consistent with what we're doing, nobody's gonna play metal through this thing without a pedal.  It's light in the low end as one would expect, but I'm not sure that's a big deal.
Basically, the jury is out.  Need more time.  Here it is with a partscaster for scale:

Caint see shit.

[tbone_ 14451]

Do you need much low end if you have a bass player?

[jimmyjazz 47221]

1 hour ago, tbone_ said:

Do you need much low end if you have a bass player?

Not really, but there's that grunt I'm used to out of a 12" driver that just isn't there.

[tbone_ 14451]

Yea I wondered about the 10.

But I’m so enamored with only two knobs.

[dcbc 14644]

3 hours ago, tbone_ said:

Yea I wondered about the 10.

But I’m so enamored with only two knobs.

Mmm, hmm.

 

[Chad Fuck 18141]

Mmm, hmm.
 

Pretty.

[Deej 77842]

Of all my amps, I'm down to playing my Supro 1600 Supreme almost exclusively. Doesn't matter the guitar, it always sounds good. 10"speaker with the 12" extension cabinet. Supposedly based on Keef's Oahu.

I prefer it over my Black Majick.

I love me some 6V6 amps. 

[Gil Bang 26244]

As mentioned upthread, restore or no?

[G650 14440]

Ehhh

[G650 14440]

Crosspost from share your racket thread, this Fender M-80 was my live rig for like 96-98. Absolutely loudest amp I've ever seen, 300 watts of solid state insanity.

 

 

 

 

[dcbc 14644]

4 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

As mentioned upthread, restore or no?

 

I had whatever the 2x12 version of this was minus the speakers, which someone tried to put into a car stereo system.  I looked into getting it restored and the guy who could have taken my money talked me out of it.  Thomas Organ-Vox Solid State just wasn't that desirable.  Of course, this was the 90s when you could pick up Silverface Fenders for several hundred bucks.  Looks like these are worth about $750--$850 (ask) on Reverb.  So proceed accordingly.

[Gil Bang 26244]

Heh...just thinking about the Thomas Organ store in every mall (40 years ago) where some jerkoff salesman would be playing "Lady of Spain" as you walked by on your way to Spencer's Gifts or Licorice Pizza.

[dcbc 14644]

I don't think I ever posted this one.  As much of a tweed love fest as I've put on over the last decade, there's a reason my 1973 Deluxe Reverb, modded to AB763 specs etc. by David Allen and fitted with a 1968 Jensen C12N is my desert island amp.  This is a demo I did for a friend shopping for a similar amp with his settings and, eventually, my settings.  I don't get the reverb tamed until the end, but for someone who doesn't do demos, it gets the job done. 

 

/guitar is a 1970 ES-335 TD

 

 

Edited July 21, 2023 by dcbc

[CTC2 2865]

Anyone have any current experience with an attenuator for a late 60’s Super Reverb?  I’m looking at the Weber Mass 100. I like the Super but I just can’t use it as much as I’d like. 
Essentially I’m trying to decide between getting an attenuator or just trading it for a smaller amp. Thanks!

[G650 14440]

41 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

Anyone have any current experience with an attenuator for a late 60’s Super Reverb?  I’m looking at the Weber Mass 100. I like the Super but I just can’t use it as much as I’d like. 
Essentially I’m trying to decide between getting an attenuator or just trading it for a smaller amp. Thanks!

I have a 100 for my Bassman, seems a little overkill for a Super but certainly would do the trick. They are great units and you can dial in basically the same tone, just quieter.

[CTC2 2865]

3 minutes ago, G650 said:

I have a 100 for my Bassman, seems a little overkill for a Super but certainly would do the trick. They are great units and you can dial in basically the same tone, just quieter.

Thanks. Weber recommends the 100 for Supers so that’s why I was looking at it.  I’m not sure if the next one down is 2 ohm for the Super. 
Good to get the opinion. I appreciate it. 

[G650 14440]

1 minute ago, CTC2 said:

Thanks. Weber recommends the 100 for Supers so that’s why I was looking at it.  I’m not sure if the next one down is 2 ohm for the Super. 
Good to get the opinion. I appreciate it. 

Yeah if that's what they say then I would lean that way. I have a Mass 200 for my big iron, but it is more just a volume knob. The 100 really can dial in the same sound with its separate bass and treble knobs and hi/lo switch

[CTC2 2865]

21 minutes ago, G650 said:

Yeah if that's what they say then I would lean that way. I have a Mass 200 for my big iron, but it is more just a volume knob. The 100 really can dial in the same sound with its separate bass and treble knobs and hi/lo switch

You helped me a bunch. Thanks. 

[Deej 77842]

Fuck an attenuator. Turn that bitch up to ten. 

[BrickHorn 18447]

2 hours ago, Deej said:

Fuck an attenuator. Turn that bitch up to ten. 

[jimmyjazz 47221]

What is this "attenuation" you speak of?

[G650 14440]

4 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

What is this "attenuation" you speak of?

It's the moment in life you realize you are old and lame.

[BoomMF 1402]

The Mass 100 looks good. Hot Plates have been the standard for so long, we need options, and I like options with more knobs.

[CTC2 2865]

I bought the Mass 100 off of Reverb this morning. The Super being 2 ohm really limits the choices.