Ridingtosunsets ride into the sunset Meta thread of genius

[Beau Vine 54003]

6 minutes ago, YChang said:

I think what disappoints me the most about some of our DT conservatives, current day Republicans, et al... is just the general lack of creativity/curiosity and sometimes a sense of humanity with their approach to issues, problems, and policies. 

"Be curious, not judgemental."

[Biff Tannen 45499]

8 minutes ago, YChang said:

I think what disappoints me the most about some of our DT conservatives, current day Republicans, et al... is just the general lack of creativity/curiosity and sometimes a sense of humanity with their approach to issues, problems, and policies. 

Understatement of the year?

[YChang 3431]

15 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Understatement of the year?

I can't help it, I try to assume positive with everyone, even on the interwebs. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

43 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Ha, it's not fun, sometimes, but running away everytime you will lose everytime.

Do you really see it as winning and losing? I don't agree with everything you have posted, but unless you post something factually untrue or as I've pointed out on occasion-- used a sketchy source w/o noting it's sketchiness, I don't view the opinions you or others post or the back and forth discussions that way. There are many different perspectives out there and some very thoughtful posters.

 

[Tom 2959]

3 hours ago, mchookem said:

OnBoard has been negged once - ONCE - in this entire thread. and he's received a good number of pos-rep.

there is someone bitching for a couple of paragraphs about getting negged in the CR in a completely 100% not-even-remotely political thread over there. i can't even recall that person ever even posting on a topic in CR.

i don't know why but that particular brand of bitchassedness just annoys the shit out of me 😠

it's not just that's its whining...it's that it's demonstrably false. 

 

You should link the post so we can go and neg it.  I'm the type of thoughtful guy who likes to turn people's dreams into reality.  

[Beau Vine 54003]

25 minutes ago, Tom said:

 

You should link the post so we can go and neg it.  I'm the type of thoughtful guy who likes to turn people's dreams into reality.  

One neg for the original post where he claimed the Ga law said you could hand anyone water as long as it didn't have the candidate's name on it:

 

[DDD Dad 14252]

2 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

One neg for the original post where he claimed the Ga law said you could hand anyone water as long as it didn't have the candidate's name on it:

 

Tom's referring to the DT post where someone's bitching about being negged in the CR.

Edited April 23, 2021 by DDD Dad

[Tom 2959]

29 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

One neg for the original post where he claimed the Ga law said you could hand anyone water as long as it didn't have the candidate's name on it:

 

 

Thanks, but I was referring to what DDD Dad said in the post below yours.  I'd neg the OP but he's already dead and in purgatory.  Instead I'm pouring one out.

[DDD Dad 14252]

3 minutes ago, Tom said:

 

Thanks, but I was referring to what DDD Dad said in the post below yours.  I'd neg the OP but he's already dead and in purgatory.  Instead I'm pouring one out.

You said what I was thinking earlier today.  I haven't negged anybody in a while.....

[mchookem 16224]

meh, it would just make the poster say 'see?? neg cabal! mean!' 🙄 plus y'all would probably end up with a timeout yourselves and then i'd feel guilty 😋

anyway...it's not too hard to find, the thread is on the first page...maybe i'm being overly sensitive, but the ridiculousness just pissed me off.

[Bullneck 18987]

When I click on an oddly titled thread from a poster I've never heard from I expect to see very few posts and lots of negs.  This thread delivers.

[Captainant 27467]

Lulz like fucking clockwork

21 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Fuck the media !  They're a huge part of the problem.  What's really fucking funny is there are posters here (the cabal specifically) that think their news sources are 100% accurate, get their facts straight all the time, have no agenda, and when they screw up admit it. I'm still laughing about the last one. Typically when sources like the NYT even consider a retraction it's buried on page 12, section F next to the grocery store coupons in 5pt. print.  

This latest shooting of a knife wielding girl is still being painted as a cop murder in many of the large mainstream news orgs, by their commentators, editorialists, tweeters and twatters.  

Straight up lying about what was just discussed in this very thread. Such bitchassedness

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

12 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Lulz like fucking clockwork

Straight up lying about what was just discussed in this very thread. Such bitchassedness

Fuck that . I made a comment about something  I heard reported. That was shown to be wrong. I admitted I was wrong, and the posts continued to question my comments.  So fuck off calling me a liar.   Cabal 101 shit right there captainC.

Edited April 24, 2021 by Onboard 2.0

[Biff Tannen 45499]

How is this thread still going?

[hobbes2702 12847]

38 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

How is this thread still going?

Because @Onboard 2.0 apparently is incapable of critical thinking

[elfenix 34172]

Just now, hobbes2702 said:

Because @Onboard 2.0 apparently is incapable of critical thinking

aggressively misinformed is onboard's shtick. 

[Sawbonz 27436]

23 hours ago, mchookem said:

OnBoard has been negged once - ONCE

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

Here's a general shout out to the cabal regarding my OP, and subsequent posts, and responses. Fuck you.

I was incorrect about water being given to folks in a voting line, and immediately stated so. That wasn't good enough for the collective. I answered questions that for some reason a poster felt I was required to answer, and I posted general questions, and comments regarding that issue, the collective conveniently ignored because they don't fit into their, narrow, bizarre notions of the world, where you'd gladly have one party rule if you had the opportunity.  

Ya'll have a good day in the circle jerk, try not to get too much on your hands.

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

"cabal" 

Byeeeeeeeeee

[hobbes2702 12847]

46 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Here's a general shout out to the cabal regarding my OP, and subsequent posts, and responses. Fuck you.

I was incorrect about water being given to folks in a voting line, and immediately stated so. That wasn't good enough for the collective. I answered questions that for some reason a poster felt I was required to answer, and I posted general questions, and comments regarding that issue, the collective conveniently ignored because they don't fit into their, narrow, bizarre notions of the world, where you'd gladly have one party rule if you had the opportunity.  

Ya'll have a good day in the circle jerk, try not to get too much on your hands.

 

See you in three months when we do this all over again. But don’t worry it will still be everyone else’s fault.

[Chewbacca 7730]

Here's a general shout out to the cabal regarding my OP, and subsequent posts, and responses. Fuck you.
I was incorrect about water being given to folks in a voting line, and immediately stated so. That wasn't good enough for the collective. I answered questions that for some reason a poster felt I was required to answer, and I posted general questions, and comments regarding that issue, the collective conveniently ignored because they don't fit into their, narrow, bizarre notions of the world, where you'd gladly have one party rule if you had the opportunity.  
Ya'll have a good day in the circle jerk, try not to get too much on your hands.

Anyone who uses the word cabal is a nutjob.

What was the radio station you were listening to?

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

The cabal:   waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh somebody said something we don't like.  

Waaaaaaaaaaaaah.  

Waaaaaaaahhhh Their acknowledgement of their error wasn't enough.   

We'll give him a piece of our minds. Waaaaaaaaahh quick somebody jerk my e dick.

waaaaaaaahhh, and the circle jerk goes round and round....

Again, a hardy fuck you to all who care to neg away.  It might affect my life, but them again maybe it won't... acting the role of grand inquisitors doesn't really fit you boys well.

[RomaVicta 29794]

On 4/21/2021 at 8:21 PM, Ridingtosunset said:

This is a thread to discuss the obvious lack of tolerance we have now for opinions with which we don't agree. I have no delusions this will remain civil, thus the need for the discussion. 

I'm looking for discussion on how we got here, social media? politics? wealth inequality? mental health? How do we fix it and can it be fixed? 

My thoughts are we've been manipulated to this point by a) politicians who benefit from dividing and securing voting blocs b) media that feeds on division and hate c) social media that has desensitized and isolated us from real relationships with others d) our own vanity 

I'm not going to read all the way through this slaughter. I'll just say that I think people such as the op got pissy as the room cleared of people nodding along with things that became self-evidently untrue. The right doesn't stand for fiscal responsibility. The right doesn't stand for individual liberty (they go after gays, blacks, women, illusory libs as enemies of the state whenever it suits their political ends). The right could give a shit about even the most basic foundations of the republic.

Those once on the right believing those things chose to believe their own eyes instead. They took a hard thoughtful look and had the fortitude to abandon something they'd beieved was righteous. They left the room and the building.

Now people like the OP, true adherents like face-painting pro sports fans, don't understand why more people don't agree with them. They argue the old dogma without reflection. They've added their former party members to the enemies list. They're all ebil libs if they don't stand with me and the sainted Rush Limbaugh.

Abandon the assumption that you are right about everything and that those who disagree with you are, by definition, wrong, and you just might wake up to a more plausible reality. Or you can stay in the room you're accustomed to and just keep weeping and wanking.

Edited April 24, 2021 by RomaVicta

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

11 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

The cabal:   waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh somebody said something we don't like.  

Waaaaaaaaaaaaah.  

Waaaaaaaahhhh Their acknowledgement of their error wasn't enough.   

We'll give him a piece of our minds. Waaaaaaaaahh quick somebody jerk my e dick.

waaaaaaaahhh, and the circle jerk goes round and round....

Again, a hardy fuck you to all who care to neg away.  It might affect my life, but them again maybe it won't... acting the role of grand inquisitors doesn't really fit you boys well.

Wahhhhh a group of people who completely dismantle my world view on the regular are calling me out for it so I call them a cabal because then it seems like they're just out to get me because evil-libcuck-tifas, instead of allowing myself to be introspective realizing I'm some dipshit parroting talking points, living in an alternate reality. 

"Wahhhhhh" fits you real well

Edited April 24, 2021 by SmokeyTheBear
*what roma said

[Chewbacca 7730]

The cabal:   waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh somebody said something we don't like.  
Waaaaaaaaaaaaah.  
Waaaaaaaahhhh Their acknowledgement of their error wasn't enough.   
We'll give him a piece of our minds. Waaaaaaaaahh quick somebody jerk my e dick.
waaaaaaaahhh, and the circle jerk goes round and round....
Again, a hardy fuck you to all who care to neg away.  It might affect my life, but them again maybe it won't... acting the role of grand inquisitors doesn't really fit you boys well.

Ok, Boomer.

[Gatorubet 30116]

Well, I’m gonna go back to one of OB’s points. I see the “Fuck you - the media is 100% right?” by OB quoted, but could not find it. Not gonna go back 200 posts.

But last night on MSNBC I heard one of Joy Reid’s guests refer to the shooting of the knife wielding teen as a ‘murder’. Which is bullshit. I mean, as a former civil rights attorney I had several cop shoot knife wielding citizen cases, and have a really good idea about the standards and best practices in that scenario. It was a justified shoot according to experts I retained in other cases. The proximity of the knife wielder to a possible victim allowed no other choice. One second later the other person might have been fatally stabbed or seriously cut. And they’d be blaming the cop for letting it happen.

Now, I hate that MSNBC did not slam that as soon as it was said. I have in fact seen several MSNBC guests/experts say it was a proper shoot. So OnBoard does what the right does - take one person’s opinion as some universal catechism of how liberals think and what we believe.

OnBoard can’t discriminate between opinion (even when different and opposing opinions are made from left-ish sources) from fact based statements. His false statement was about a pure fact - the Georgia voter law. That is easily discoverable by a 1 minute Google search. The statements he refers to about whether the cop was justified in shooting was an opinion. That some emotional black guest refers to it as murder due to the unfortunate timing of the thing - and the seemingly endless cop shootings - is incorrect but understandable. The fact that OPINION was incorrect was pointed out by some black police expert on a different show.

Point is, the MSNBC guest did not say that the girl was 30 feet from any potential victim when the cop shot. THAT would be an analogy to OnBoards misstatement of fact. Which is all to say, I’ve noticed that many current Trump/MAGA/GOP types do that - counter claims that their facts are wrong with examples of the other side holding opinions they think are wrong. In their world opinions are equal to naked facts. So facts that refute their opinion are ignored.

Anyway, just my observation. And why discussing things with people who see no difference between opinion and fact is seldom going to change their minds.

[hpslugga 4044]

Lol “the cabal.” 
 

I have seen some truly dishonest shit on these boards before, but that one Bob Beamons all of them.

Edited April 24, 2021 by hpslugga

[YChang 3431]

So those of y’all in the cabal... what’s membership fees like? Pretty reasonable? Cool t-shirts? When and where’s happy hour?

[hpslugga 4044]

1 minute ago, YChang said:

So those of y’all in the cabal... what’s membership fees like? Pretty reasonable? Cool t-shirts? When and where’s happy hour?

See the thing is the first rule about the cabal is no one talks about the cabal. The second rule is no one talks about the cabal. The third rule is that you have to be invited and if any of us do it in public on a board like this one, we’d have to kill you.

[hobbes2702 12847]

How do we go about getting “Surly Lib Cabal” t shirts made?

[Bullneck 18987]

2 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Here's a general shout out to the cabal regarding my OP, and subsequent posts, and responses. Fuck you.

I was incorrect about water being given to folks in a voting line, and immediately stated so. That wasn't good enough for the collective. I answered questions that for some reason a poster felt I was required to answer, and I posted general questions, and comments regarding that issue, the collective conveniently ignored because they don't fit into their, narrow, bizarre notions of the world, where you'd gladly have one party rule if you had the opportunity.  

Ya'll have a good day in the circle jerk, try not to get too much on your hands.

Why are you here?

[hpslugga 4044]

2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

How do we go about getting “Surly Lib Cabal” t shirts made?

I know a guy

[Bullneck 18987]

6 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

See the thing is the first rule about the cabal is no one talks about the cabal. The second rule is no one talks about the cabal. The third rule is that you have to be invited and if any of us do it in public on a board like this one, we’d have to kill you.

Sorry, can't resist.

 

 

[Bullneck 18987]

6 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

I know a guy

 

[hpslugga 4044]

Just now, Bullneck said:

 

Yeah he’s serving time on the inside for strenuously objecting to private healthcare and the military industrial complex. Good with a presser, tho. Just don’t go near him with any Limbaugh quotes or he’ll throw a book at your ass.

[Beau Vine 54003]

48 minutes ago, YChang said:

So those of y’all in the cabal... what’s membership fees like? Pretty reasonable? Cool t-shirts? When and where’s happy hour?

The membership fees are kinda steep, but it does get you big discounts on baby blood, so it pretty much pays for itself.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

Ahhhhhhh circle jerk the wagons boys.  Look out it's trouble, there's something somebody said we  don't  like   very much !!  and, we're preeeeeetty sure they're conservative, sop that seals the deal.   We don't like that kind, and ........ we....... are......... peeved.  

Ahhhhhhhhh it's Cabal frenzy season ....(I'm trademarking that one.). And I have my own silk screen equipment, so operators will be standing by to take orders.

[hobbes2702 12847]

[hpslugga 4044]

Mommy, the big kids won’t play nice with me!!!

[Willfully Horn 7916]

 

Media is equally shitty on both sides of the spectrum? 
 

Not to my mind.

Edited April 24, 2021 by Willfully Horn
Words

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

This thread:

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Ahhhhhhh circle jerk the wagons boys.  Look out it's trouble, there's something somebody said we  don't  like   very much !!  and, we're preeeeeetty sure they're conservative, sop that seals the deal.   We don't like that kind, and ........ we....... are......... peeved.  

Ahhhhhhhhh it's Cabal frenzy season ....(I'm trademarking that one.). And I have my own silk screen equipment, so operators will be standing by to take orders.

Sorry. Swammy already owns the media and copyright rights with respect to “surly liberal cabal.” Or at least his internet estate does. May he RIP.

Edited April 24, 2021 by JimmyJames

[JimmyJames 12271]

3 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

The cabal:   waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh somebody said something we don't like.  

Waaaaaaaaaaaaah.  

Waaaaaaaahhhh Their acknowledgement of their error wasn't enough.   

We'll give him a piece of our minds. Waaaaaaaaahh quick somebody jerk my e dick.

waaaaaaaahhh, and the circle jerk goes round and round....

Again, a hardy fuck you to all who care to neg away.  It might affect my life, but them again maybe it won't... acting the role of grand inquisitors doesn't really fit you boys well.

You talk the talk.

 

Do you walk the walk?

Wooooooooooooo

[JimmyJames 12271]

Now you might not believe it but under fire Animal Mother is one of the finest human beings in the world.

[Fudge Nuggets 19151]

6 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Here's a general shout out to the cabal regarding my OP, and subsequent posts, and responses. Fuck you.

I was incorrect about water being given to folks in a voting line, and immediately stated so. That wasn't good enough for the collective. I answered questions that for some reason a poster felt I was required to answer, and I posted general questions, and comments regarding that issue, the collective conveniently ignored because they don't fit into their, narrow, bizarre notions of the world, where you'd gladly have one party rule if you had the opportunity.  

Ya'll have a good day in the circle jerk, try not to get too much on your hands.

You left out the part where you trolled yourself because you forgot to login to your sock account.

Piss off, fuckboi. 

[Bullneck 18987]

On 4/23/2021 at 10:41 AM, Onboard 2.0 said:

What's your problem ?  You think your news sources are 100% accurate all the time ?  They get every fact correct ?  I've already addressed that issue. The NYT gets shit wrong, and when they actually do fess up it's buried on page 12. So you can stop you holier than shit.

No news source gets it right all the time. Whether Ga allows water to be given on line isn't going to change my life or yours or the voter on line.  The reasons for that issue are well established thru the years.

My OP was not a declaration that it was fact. it was me just saying I heard differently. Oh no... oh no !!  I should be put in a re eduction camp, and the radio program should be banished .. Sorry, but if you think your sources are always right you're a friggin child who should get a better helmet before you hit the slopes next season.

Here's a list of NYTimes controversies.  All 23 since 1848.   They print newspapers every day of the year for quite a few decades.  Which ones do you have a problem with?

Quote

Contents
1    New York City’s hushed-up lead poisoning epidemic of 1848 to 1992
2    The Russian Revolution, 1917–1920
3    Los Alamos investigation
4    The 1619 Project
5    Anthrax attacks
6    Staff Resignations
6.1    Jayson Blair
6.2    Judith Miller
6.2.1    Second Iraq War
6.2.2    Valerie Plame affair
7    National Security Agency revelations delayed
8    MoveOn.org ad controversy
9    Corporate-influence concerns
10    Duke University lacrosse case reporting
11    John McCain-lobbyist article criticism
12    Alessandra Stanley errors
13    Anti-Indian sentiment
14    Abu Huzaifa al-Kanadi
15    Publishing leaked photos from the Manchester bombing
16    Putin-Trump kiss cartoon
17    Hiring of Sarah Jeong
18    Coverage of the Holocaust
19    Accusations of anti-Semitism
19.1    Anti-Semitic cartoons
19.2    Anti-Semitic political editor
20    Delayed publication of 2005 NSA warrantless surveillance story
21    M.I.A. quotes out of context (2009–10)
22    Irish student controversy (2015)
23    Nail salon series (2015)
24    See also
25    References
26    External links
 

 

[gmr548 16517]

lol y’all responding to onboard

[tchookem 3900]

lol y’all responding to onboard

Including himself.

[Captainant 27467]

I forget, was onboards old handle tahoe horn?

[hpslugga 4044]

On 4/24/2021 at 2:57 PM, Gatorubet said:

Well, I’m gonna go back to one of OB’s points. I see the “Fuck you - the media is 100% right?” by OB quoted, but could not find it. Not gonna go back 200 posts.

But last night on MSNBC I heard one of Joy Reid’s guests refer to the shooting of the knife wielding teen as a ‘murder’. Which is bullshit. I mean, as a former civil rights attorney I had several cop shoot knife wielding citizen cases, and have a really good idea about the standards and best practices in that scenario. It was a justified shoot according to experts I retained in other cases. The proximity of the knife wielder to a possible victim allowed no other choice. One second later the other person might have been fatally stabbed or seriously cut. And they’d be blaming the cop for letting it happen.

Now, I hate that MSNBC did not slam that as soon as it was said. I have in fact seen several MSNBC guests/experts say it was a proper shoot. So OnBoard does what the right does - take one person’s opinion as some universal catechism of how liberals think and what we believe.

OnBoard can’t discriminate between opinion (even when different and opposing opinions are made from left-ish sources) from fact based statements. His false statement was about a pure fact - the Georgia voter law. That is easily discoverable by a 1 minute Google search. The statements he refers to about whether the cop was justified in shooting was an opinion. That some emotional black guest refers to it as murder due to the unfortunate timing of the thing - and the seemingly endless cop shootings - is incorrect but understandable. The fact that OPINION was incorrect was pointed out by some black police expert on a different show.

Point is, the MSNBC guest did not say that the girl was 30 feet from any potential victim when the cop shot. THAT would be an analogy to OnBoards misstatement of fact. Which is all to say, I’ve noticed that many current Trump/MAGA/GOP types do that - counter claims that their facts are wrong with examples of the other side holding opinions they think are wrong. In their world opinions are equal to naked facts. So facts that refute their opinion are ignored.

Anyway, just my observation. And why discussing things with people who see no difference between opinion and fact is seldom going to change their minds.

Actually, hardly any of what you described as "opinion" actually qualifies as opinion.

Opinion is a unique type of belief. It is unique in that it can never, under any circumstance, be proven true or false.

"Navy blue is better than scarlet red."

THAT is an opinion. You will never actually be able to say "the fact that OPINION was incorrect" because you'll never be able to prove it incorrect. We've lost sight of this, largely due to the ridiculous proliferation of post-modernist dogma. If you can prove that something is incorrect, then by definition, it cannot be opinion. 

So let's take the murder thing. That, in reality, is an assertion, but it takes more than raw emotion and confirmation bias to establish it as a fact. It is dishonest to assert baseless speculation as though it were a matter of fact. You have to consider all the elements that deem any killing as a "murder," juxtapose it with what happened, and see if it matches. Derek Chauvin, for example, did murder George Floyd. That's not an opinion. The state more than satisfied its burden of proof beyond all reasonable doubt, which if you ask me more than qualifies for an establishment of actual fact. The same applies to the police shooting here. Was it justified? Again, take 1) all the circumstances present and juxtapose it with 2) how the law defines a justified shooting by an officer of the law. If the two fit, he's not a murderer. If the two don't fit, he's a murderer. Shouldn't be that hard.

What OnBoard did with the Georgia thing was neither fact nor opinion. He lied. Just straight up lied. Recall how this came about. He posted this:

"Is this the Ga. law saying you can give a bottled water to someone in line, but it can't have political candidates name or political party on the label ?"

There's no such Georgia law. It doesn't exist, but he asserted its existence as if it did. He asserted baseless speculation (i.e. something that's either not evidently true or evidently not true) as though it were a matter of fact when he knew full well it was not a matter of fact. Even if he actually believed it was true, as he stated in his immediate walkback later, he at least knew he couldn't prove it, as evident by his citing of a radio program as the source of such feeble nonsense. If he can't show it, he don't know it. But even with that confession, it's still dishonesty; not opinion. Radio programs don't work like a Norman Finkelstein book. Their statements aren't riddled with footnotes of citation, so it's not like they were literally citing anything when they said that. If anyone on that radio program actually did say that, they lied.

One of the other effects of post-modernist dogma is that we go out of our way to, relatively speaking at least, let rubes off the hook while still indicting the real liars. That's stupid because it blurs the line between the liars and the rubes, and the truth is that line is paper thin at best. If you're dumb enough to believe improbable claims from questionable sources on insufficient evidence, that just makes you a fool. But you're only a fool if you keep that shit to yourself. When you start spreading around those improbable claims to others and pretending as if you know they're facts, you're telling lies. Even if you walk them back later, you still told lies (just like a murderer is still a murderer even if he deeply regrets doing it and shows deep, genuine remorse and contrition to everyone for having done it), and you have an obligation to fess up to it and suffer the consequences. That, ladies and gentlemen, is what we like to call "personal responsibility."