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2021 Texas Orange-White Game - April 24, 1 PM, LHN

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I hope he’s right. The alternative is not good. 
 

My favorite part was how many players mentioned that they were actually having fun play football again. Fuck you Tom Herman!

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Behind a good OL we can win with either QB.  

This is true. Not sure we've had a pair of QBs of this quality at the same time in a competition since I've been following. Card has the better arm though. 

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53 minutes ago, Machinator said:

 

The extended award silence after this answer and nobody knowing if he was going to elaborate or they were going to  move to the next question followed by them moving to the next question and it being Kirk Bohls is when I changed it to golf lol.

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I think schooler is going to lock down a safety spot.  He looks like an NFL safety running out there.  He has great range with his speed and can hit.  Also has natural instincts playing the ball in the air.   

Schoolers range is insane. Didn’t realize he could cover ground like that. Very deceptive speed. I knew her be physical from his ST play. 

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So I didn't get to watch due to some kid obligations but scrolling through looks like we were mediocre to fair....good.  I've watched the last few Bama spring games and they look the same, work on basics keep things straightforward, no bullshit.  I've been fooled by spring games before, I would rather they just keep their hands down and keep working on getting better than believing any bullshit that they are actually good/great.

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Bijan is from another planet. Casey looked better early but got worse as the game went on. Card was ok early but improved as the game went on. That one drive where he carved up the defense was vintage LT Card. And that throw to Washington is something I have seen over and over again. The difference in arm strength was noticeable. I think we can win with either one but I thought Card looked clearly better today.

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Bijan is from another planet. Casey looked better early but got worse as the game went on. Card was ok early but improved as the game went on. That one drive where he carved up the defense was vintage LT Card. And that throw to Washington is something I have seen over and over again. The difference in arm strength was noticeable. I think we can win with either one but I thought Card looked clearly better today.

Card is the better longer term solution, but I am fine rolling with Thompson if he continues to impress the coaches. It's nice to have a couple of legit options at QB. Been a long time. 

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Bijan is from another planet. Casey looked better early but got worse as the game went on. Card was ok early but improved as the game went on. That one drive where he carved up the defense was vintage LT Card. And that throw to Washington is something I have seen over and over again. The difference in arm strength was noticeable. I think we can win with either one but I thought Card looked clearly better today.

It feels like Card did a better job overall, especially if you factor in drops. But I feel like Thompson might have a little James Brown fuck you Nebraska gamer in there and will show up when the lights come on in the regular season.

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I like Overshown and Kerstetter, but interview them during those interminably long pre and post game shows, not during the game.   Tell us who is on the field and what they are doing or did.   We don't need some 20 minute diatribe on Coach Sark in the middle of the game.  And they hardly ever said anything about the defense other than the DL when they got a sack.     

Dumbasses trying so hard to impress with their boundless knowledge, I suppose. 

Those announcers for the V-ball tourney, they know their shit.  They know the players and the game.  Very little color and loads of tech talk.  That's what LHN needs, not this moronic Kurt Bohls type prattle.  And that includes Acho.   

Did you guys mute that shit in Discord and just do general discussion?  My Discord went all haywire today...so didn't get in.

I have no idea who Galindo has pics of, but they must be doozies.

 

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(Ian Boyd) 5 quick thoughts: Spring game 2021

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hile the spring game was indeed somewhat vanilla for Steve Sarkisian, Texas showed a fair amount on film today. They were obviously running their base schemes and sparing the motion and tempo but still mixing in a lot of concepts and looks. They picked up a third and two early in the game running the famous "duo" scheme from 12 personnel and still mixed in some spread RPOs of the sort they were often hesitant to run under Tom Herman.

Given the format, effectively pitting the first team defense (White team) against the first team offense (Orange team), the narrative could be about the relative strengths of either unit but there was a rather jarring factor to this game which it's going to be hard to overlook. Despite playing behind shoddy (worst than first team, even) protection and without the top weapons on offense, Hudson Card was able to guide the White team to a 20-12 victory.

The Orange team had a number of weapons in the fold including Jordan Whittington, Josh Moore, Troy Omeire, Cade Brewer, Jared Wiley, Juan Davis, Gabe Watson, and of course Bijan Robinson all working with the first team offensive line. Hudson Card worked primarily with Marcus Washington, Al'Vonte Woodard, and Kai Money with Roschon Johnson and Danny Young handling the run game.

Card got substantial help from the first team defense, particularly Moro Ojomo who had multiple sacks and pressures, and D'Shawn Jamison who made a pick-six backed up on his own goal line. Neither offensive line offered the sort of timely protection you'd prefer to see as a fan of both teams and Hudson Card was able to drive the ball late only to take a sack to force a long field goal which Cameron Dicker missed.

We'll have an offseason and fall camp for this team to iron out some of the issues on display in this scrimmage and settle battles like quarterback one but this game certainly suggested where things are headed.

Quick thought No. 1: The game was settled on two goal line throws

Casey Thompson made several nice throws, especially over the middle, to set up a chance at a touchdown before the half while running some two-minute offense. Then Thompson stared down Jordan Whittington outside, forced the ball in, and was pick-sixed by D'Shawn Jamison to give the White team a 13-9 lead going into the half.

This is the "vision quarters" coverage by the defense with Jamison playing with zone eyes on the quarterback and some freedom to break on the flat route if you stare it down. Thompson did and the Orange team couldn't recover.

In the second half, Hudson Card led the White offense down to the goal line and on a third and four zipped in a brilliant, anticipatory throw to Marcus Washington for a touchdown to make it 20-9 for the White team.

Man coverage from the defense and Card saw it developing and zipped the ball into a very narrow window before the wide receiver had broken up.

Between those two throws you have 14 points in a low scoring game and this was the difference. The White team (first team defense, second team offense) didn't have much of a path to victory other than keeping the score down, scoring on defense, and getting some number of points and play-making from Hudson Card but they got it. More on the overall White team in our other thoughts, but Hudson Card certainly outplayed Casey Thompson in this game.

On the day, Casey Thompson was 25-43 for 253 yards at 5.9 ypa with zero touchdowns, and two interceptions.
Card finished 16-24 for 188 yards at 7.8 ypa with one touchdown and zero interceptions.

The battle will continue into the fall, but Card certainly "won" the scrimmage by posting better numbers, making more plays, and earning the win for his unit while playing with less offensive talent.

Quick thought No. 2: The first team offense is really is about the run game

While Sark gave Casey Thompson the chance to throw the ball 43 times and try to get the win back from Card, they were clearly doing their best work in the run game emphasizing Bijan Robinson. In fact, Gabe Watson also had several nice runs moving downhill on the first team defense.

The best drive for the offense was the first one, which was heavy on a variety of 12 personnel runs for Bijan Robinson. The drive ended with this beauty:

This is a power run from 12 personnel and the cutback by Bijan is ridiculous. Schooler really didn't think he'd turn that back in but Bijan can turn on a dime and maintain balance before having some burst. On the day Bijan had 10 carries for 54 yards at 5.4 ypc with one touchdown and seemed to have equivalent production in the passing game catching endless check downs from Casey Thompson.

The Orange offense was at their best under Casey Thompson when emphasizing the run game and then throwing the football on rollouts. Thompson has improved considerably since he first arrived in Austin and made a few nice throws from the pocket, particularly when throwing crossing routes over the middle. But he's at his best on the move with the ability to throw a deep crosser, a check down, or scramble. When he was trying to push the ball outside from the pocket, there were some issues and some apparent arm strength problems. Hudson Card executed a few more RPOs than Thompson and was able to hit some outside throws, including an out on third down to Kai Money to a tight window.

Quick thought No. 3: Moro Ojomo was a disruptive force

Ojomo had at least two sacks by my count and potentially could have had a few more. He was blowing by Texas' guards, occasionally Hayden Conner but sometimes the first team guards as well. Texas showed a few different fronts in this game but their use of the tite front is certainly something to monitor heading into the season.

Jacoby Jones is a good player who will get his snaps, but a tite front with Moro Ojomo and Alfred Collins at the 4i defensive ends with Ray Thornton on the edge is certainly a look Texas may want to mix in heavily next season. Collins and Ojomo are both great 3-techniques and they'll use them as such but they could put both of these guys on the field at the same time as well if they like and really deal some damage to opposing offensive fronts.

Texas clearly has a lot of guys on the defensive line who can blow up blocks and get pressure on the quarterback. Prince Dorbah flashed a few times and got into the backfield while Keondre Coburn was his usual self owning the middle of the field. We'll see a variety of fronts and looks designed to force offenses to execute when it matters while blocking superior athletes.

Quick thought No. 4: Welcome Xavier Worthy!

Texas secured a commitment from 2021 4-star wide receiver Xavier Worthy, who will be in Austin as opposed to Ann Arbor. Beyond the fact Texas needs sub 11.00 second 100m sprinters in this offense to really nail Steve Sarkisian's vision on offense in general, there were a few hangups in this game from the wide receiver corps.

Things got off to a slow start with Josh Moore dropping a nice post from Casey Thompson in the end zone and then several second team receivers dropping otherwise strong Hudson Card throws. Eventually Jordan Whittington was able to show some of what has people excited for his spring, namely the ability to reliably bring the ball in and be hard to tackle, while Troy Omeire flashed some.

There is an opportunity for talented wide receivers to force their way into the offensive rotation come the fall though and Xavier Worthy is the first to throw his hat into the ring.

Quick thought No. 5: Team identity is coming into focus

The winning side was able to win this game by playing effective red zone defense, getting their eyes on the quarterback in the secondary, making disruptive plays with the defensive line, and hitting on some RPO throws in the passing game. This is a good formula for winning in the Big 12, especially with a running back like Bijan Robinson featured in the run game and a field goal kicker like Cameron Dicker (4-5 in this game with a 58-yarder), provided they can protect the ball on offense.

Therein lies the trick.

It can be difficult to protect the ball with young quarterbacks and inconsistent pass protection. The offensive line had a few miscues keeping Thompson upright and Jared Wiley had a particularly ugly moment covering the backside against a nickel blitz. Both quarterbacks are good at keeping plays alive with their feet but if Texas can't protect them neither will be able to consistently protect the ball and probably neither of them will stay healthy either.

For this coming offseason Texas needs the various components of the passing game to continue to improve, perhaps infuse some extra talent at wide receiver, and then be ready to lean on a special running back and athletic defense to carry them through the season. If they can keep their quarterback clean early in the season and avoid losses, there's a chance they could be a terrifying team later in the year.

 

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(Scipio Tex) Spring Game Quick Impressions: Defense/Special Teams

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I wanted to share a few quick thoughts without the benefit of review.

If I don't mention a guy, it's because I didn't notice him or write anything in my notes.

DEFENSE

Pete Kwiatkowski largely went vanilla coverages, but you could tell the off coverage zone-man principles he teaches give the QB some false reassurance at times. Texas brought several basic pressures and some blitzes and Pete ran more fronts than I expected us to show, but Sark isn't the offensive head coach who expects his DC to lay down in a scrimmage. No free passes for the OL.
 

DL

Moro Ojomo was all over the place, securing 3 sacks and 5 tackles, largely against 2nd and 3rd team OL, but he gave the starters some woes as well. Moro has grown into his body and while he was a steady performer last year, he lacked disruptive impact. In this game, he looked more explosive, and was much better at attacking "half the man" instead of slow dancing with the OL after contact. Pleased to see his progress.

Keondre Coburn had some excellent collapses of the pocket on honest bull rushes, wearing out Jake Majors a couple of times, but his play continues to be sporadic. The next four months of diet and conditioning will determine whether he's a solid player who flashes from time to time or a legit problem for offenses. Is he a 30 snap guy or a 55 snap guy?

Alfred Collins was relatively quiet. Just get him to 100%.

Vernon Broughton brought good motor on some pass rushes. He wasn't the initial disruptor, but he was the finisher on a sack. After a good initial strike, I want to see him continue to play through contact. Can't be a glass cannon.

Jacoby Jones finally looks like the guy I'd projected out of JUCO. He's no longer skinny fat, he's stronger, and he takes economical angles to the passer. Not quite athletic enough to finish the play, but he can get the QB uncomfortable and flush the rabbit. I expect him to be used as a utility man and key reserve inside and on the edge.

Sawyer Gorham-Welch had some OK snaps, but few of them against the #1 OL.

LB

Ray Thornton is a dude. I see why we wanted him despite limited action in Baton Rouge. Converted speed to power as a pass rusher with a nice outside-in move. Needs to get in a little better shape. His pass rush doesn't show any off-speed pitches yet.

Prince Dorbah earned my attention with 6 tackles and a sack. I feared he was a tweener coming out of HS. He might be that. The good kind. Guys with a first step who can bend and get small through a gap can be a handful at the college level, irrespective of size.

The Herman preferred walk on program raised the bar and deserves praise. The play of Jett Bush and Luke Brockermeyer is affirmation. Bush had three sacks (largely against 2nd/3rd unit) and Brockermeyer got legitimate 1st and 2nd team run with 3 tackles. Ideally, we don't want walk-ons in the depth chart, but would we rather not have them?

David Gbenda led all squads with 7 quiet tackles. He's profiling as the steady LB who cleans up messes, does his job, pursues, and racks up double digit tackles while other players get the spotlight. We need a steady hand (and head) inside. Gbenda may be that guy.

I didn't notice Jaylan Ford.

CB

D'shawn Jamison punished Casey Thompson for hanging a ball inside on a 92 yard pick 6. He also had a beautiful pass breakup on a well anticipated slant route. I think this defense will serve what he does very well. He'll give up some plays, but his ability to punish Big 12 QBs when they throw to spots for "gimme yards" like automatons is incredibly valuable.

Darion Dunn and Kitan Crawford looked the part. Dunn needs to get a little stronger up top.

Josh Thompson played well.

I still like this unit as a potential team strength.

S

Brenden Schooler missed two tackles on Bijan. The first on a play he needs to make, the second was the touchdown where Bijan made a cut so wicked that I'm not sure that there's even a reasonable coaching point for Schooler. He had three tackles and is clearly in the S rotation. A starter? They certainly played him like he might be.

Jerrin Thompson showed great timing and some East Texas Dawg when he timed up a blitz well and fought through 6-7, 255 Jared Wiley like he was a stick of margarine. Wiley isn't going to enjoy the film review on that one. Thompson is coming along on schedule.

I liked what I saw of Chris Adimora, but I always like Adimora. Is it just me or is he running a little better?

I honestly didn't notice BJ Foster.

SPECIAL TEAMS

Dicker drilled a 58 yard field goal that Lowell Galindo tried to convince me was from 88, notched another 39 yarder, and then missed from 51.

He and Isaac Pearson both punted capably, but I'm guessing that Sark wants to grow Pearson into the gig. If any of you recall the early game jitters from our other Aussie punters, this is probably well considered.

Final Thoughts

We're probably better on the edge than I'd assumed (I was very worried) and I think Texas can get enough off ball LB play if Gbenda and Overshown stay healthy. The DL has the potential to be disruptive, but at least one of Sweat, Ojomo, or Coburn needs to be a dude in order to free up Collins.

 

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