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New recruiting rules...

D1 staffs can call juniors starting Monday and other recruiting changes

By Zach Barnett -  January 29, 2021

The NCAA on Friday approved a number of pandemic-induced rules changes in regards to recruiting and staffing.

Most immediately, Division I football staffs can begin calling high school juniors or their family members beginning Feb. 1, which is this coming Monday.

In another major change, just as the 2020-21 season doesn’t count toward a players’ eligibility, neither does it count on graduate assistants’ eligibility clock. Provided they are in good academic standing, GAs are permitted to return for a fourth season. Because everyone wants to spend more time living that GA life.

Here is the full list of changes:

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  On 1/29/2021 at 7:15 PM, closetojumping said:

This is the kind of shit I wish they wouldn’t waste their time on. It seems like it is some sort of rite of passage for each new staff go fart-huffing deep in the SEC backwater for players they have no chance of getting. Go west, northwest, north, and northeast you fuckheads, but stay the fuck out of Baton Rouge and Birmingham. Fucking fuckity fuck. 

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It’s really a bad choice of resources. Go compete against a shitty SEC program as the easiest and closest and cheapest non- local option or go play the bag game against 9 National/regional powers. Fuck man, pick the low hanging fruit. 

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  On 1/29/2021 at 9:11 PM, golfclap said:

I understand the idea here but I'm not a buyer in the Alabama model - with a deluge of carpet bombed offers to attend a camp and get an offer. Not because it doesn't work for Bama but because Texas simply isn't going to commit at the level that Bama does. I just don't believe it. Every guy coming from the Saban system says "we are going to do it the Bama way. We are going to build out the same type of team." Not one has done it. Kirby took over much of what Richt already had in place and then when he couldn't replicate the entire Bama org just haphazardly started dropping bags and he's the success story in the scenario. 

Saban can throw down that many offers because he has that many people working on evals and on communication with these players. Sure, an offer costs nothing but keeping that line of communication open? That takes staff energy, time, and resources. It takes a tremendous amount of work to continue these type of recruitments and to keep the water simmered but bot boiled. Saban simply throws more manpower at the problem because Alabama is willing to do that. They are willing to employ far more people, including skilled experienced (Read: expensive) people. Oregon fucked around and found out. Other teams have tried and failed as well. 

 

I think Clemson's style and staff is the better, more reproducible model. Clemson does a fantastic job with evaluations, they do not carpet bomb but they will put an emphasis on a position group and put 15-20 offers out in a group when they see similar evals and then it's first come, first served. They also do a fantastic job at getting out of recruitments. They don't ignore the signs and waste time/effort/experience on a recruit that is unlikely to sign there (maximizing that ROI) and they do an incredible job of determining when to drop the recruit from their end. See the Brockermeyers, they didn't feel like James was worthy of a scholarship, nor that Tommy was worth two and didn't talk around the problem, nor did they stay invested (even in Tommy) once they had made their decision "just in case they change their mind." They trust the evals from non-coaches like Batson. Texas was already on the road to building a system like that and could very well elevate their personnel dept to follow that model and it much more attainable and tenable, imo. Each time you find a great evaluator at a lesser school - you steal him. Your people will grow and move to new bigger roles, so you ensure that you have a few more people than you have need. 

 

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Sark’s a smart guy.  He was on his way to success before his whole drinking problem. He’s also way more likable than Herman.  I’m sure he’ll be fine.  To me, he seems like a young Mack Brown with a set of balls.  We’ll see though.

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  On 1/30/2021 at 4:59 PM, texifornia said:
I don't think either of those guys is as hard to replace as you think they are.
They arent, but still sucks to lose them. Not sure Drayton is one of the top 10 RB coaches in the nation, but he made his name on the shoulders of Zeke Elliott, and now Bijan...no matter if he had help recruiting/developing both or it's simply their natural ability. That sort of thing is huge to recruits wanting to tote the rock. As for Carrington, he was key in landing Ossai and a few others that werent exactly locks..the dude has value, just not irreplaceable.
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  On 1/30/2021 at 4:59 PM, texifornia said:
I don't think either of those guys is as hard to replace as you think they are.

This. I like drayton but no so long ago we were saying how he doesn’t do much in recruiting. (Before landing Bijan). players like him just like Coleman but it’s not like theyre hard to replace.

Pretty obvious Carrington planned to leave when he went MIA from Twitter. He could stay but losing him to USC doesn’t scare me. It’s USC with Helton. They might as well hire Herman at the rate they’re going with former Texas staff.
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  On 1/30/2021 at 6:19 PM, utexas8 said:


This. I like drayton but no so long ago we were saying how he doesn’t do much in recruiting. (Before landing Bijan). players like him just like Coleman but it’s not like theyre hard to replace.

Pretty obvious Carrington planned to leave when he went MIA from Twitter. He could stay but losing him to USC doesn’t scare me. It’s USC with Helton. They might as well hire Herman at the rate they’re going with former Texas staff.

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They will get 1 year to prove it.

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  On 1/30/2021 at 6:24 PM, westexhorn said:

If Drayton leaves we should call Samples then? Rainmaker recruiter to help bolster Dallas influence?

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Sure. They could upgrade big time from a recruiting perspective with a new hire.

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  On 1/30/2021 at 6:32 PM, ShowMeALoss said:

Let's not forget Drayton was responsible for our inexplicable RB rotations for the past few years. 

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No, he wasn’t. When the RB, TE, OL and WR personnel decisions all suck despite a revolving door of position coaches at some of those spots, it should lead you back to the common denominator (Herman), not position coaches.

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Its about developing players. Bijan could have gone to Ohio State where Elliot played but he decided on Texas where Elliot's coach was. Its about relationships and losing Drayton would be a blow. Relationships and track records  don't happen overnight and just replacing him with a hot shot recruiter doesn't always work and will be a big target for negative recruiting. Let's hope he stays.

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What story am I missing about Drayton? Where is that coming from?

Regarding Carrington, he's been offered a guaranteed 3 years with a 33% raise. He's facing a different role with the same title if he stays at Texas. The dogs they've brought in to recruit have egos and like to be the leads on their targets and have the primary relationship. LA is also a better place for his wife's career, which is burgeoning towards stardom in social media. I feel fairly certain he's gone. 

 

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  On 1/30/2021 at 7:06 PM, realgreggym said:

Its about developing players. Bijan could have gone to Ohio State where Elliot played but he decided on Texas where Elliot's coach was. Its about relationships and losing Drayton would be a blow. Relationships and track records  don't happen overnight and just replacing him with a hot shot recruiter doesn't always work and will be a big target for negative recruiting. Let's hope he stays.

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How so? It's not like we'd be firing him.

From a recruiting/relationships standpoint, (likely) losing Harris would arguably be the bigger blow.

  On 1/30/2021 at 7:08 PM, closetojumping said:

What story am I missing about Drayton? Where is that coming from?

 

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IT said he's entertaining NFL offers again

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  On 1/30/2021 at 7:16 PM, Dijon Robinson said:

How so? It's not like we'd be firing him.

From a recruiting/relationships standpoint, (likely) losing Harris would arguably be the bigger blow.

IT said he's entertaining NFL offers again

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I remember early on it being said that he liked having close proximity with his daughters and was content with staying at Texas. I wonder if Sark told him it is time to get off your ass and start recruiting, since running back coaches have a relatively easy job?

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To be clear, IT made it sound like they don't think Drayton will leave, just that he's getting interest and it's possible. Unlike Carrington, he's been tweeting UT stuff lately including today so clearly not out the door yet.

I know he's not a volume recruiter but he's wanted by NFL teams for a reason and players seem to love him. Plus if he lands LJ and Blue alongside Bijan and Brooks, he will have crushed RB recruiting 3 years in a row. 

No insider info but sure seems like Carrington is gone.

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  On 1/30/2021 at 7:16 PM, Dijon Robinson said:

How so? It's not like we'd be firing him.

From a recruiting/relationships standpoint, (likely) losing Harris would arguably be the bigger blow.

IT said he's entertaining NFL offers again

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Some posters suggested replacing Drayton with Samples if I understood them correctly. He would be a target for negative recruiting because other teams would point 

out his lack of success and lack of development background.

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  On 1/30/2021 at 8:05 PM, Tex-19 said:

I know he's not a volume recruiter but he's wanted by NFL teams for a reason and players seem to love him. Plus if he lands LJ and Blue alongside Bijan and Brooks, he will have crushed RB recruiting 3 years in a row. 

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Yeah I guess it just depends on what the head coach’s expectations/needs are for a rb coach. Drayton seems to recruit his own position well but that amounts to 1 or 2 guys a year. Which can be fine if you make it up with a volume recruiter in other spots (Banks). 
 

It’s not really fine if the same offensive staff has Corby Meekins at TE coach to pick up the slack.

 

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  On 1/30/2021 at 8:11 PM, realgreggym said:

Some posters suggested replacing Drayton with Samples if I understood them correctly. He would be a target for negative recruiting because other teams would point 

out his lack of success and lack of development background.

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Drayton isn't a great recruiter. That wouldn't be a drop-off and any plus guy would finally recruit outside his position. 

Drayton is probably not leaving though.

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  On 1/30/2021 at 8:05 PM, Tex-19 said:

To be clear, IT made it sound like they don't think Drayton will leave, just that he's getting interest and it's possible. Unlike Carrington, he's been tweeting UT stuff lately including today so clearly not out the door yet.

I know he's not a volume recruiter but he's wanted by NFL teams for a reason and players seem to love him. Plus if he lands LJ and Blue alongside Bijan and Brooks, he will have crushed RB recruiting 3 years in a row. 

No insider info but sure seems like Carrington is gone.

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We give him shit for 2018, but from the stories I have heard, missing out on Noah Cain was on Herman being a tone deaf dipshit and not on Drayton.

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  On 1/30/2021 at 8:11 PM, realgreggym said:

Some posters suggested replacing Drayton with Samples if I understood them correctly. He would be a target for negative recruiting because other teams would point 

out his lack of success and lack of development background.

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Counterpoint: He would have two years of Bijan and one year of Roschon to brag about.

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  On 1/31/2021 at 7:27 AM, CL Horn said:

assuming UT moved on from Tavorus(?), that RB out of El Paso, in favor of Miller (Blue is #1 on the board of course)?

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Bama offered him while sark was there so you know he should be very familiar with him

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