Texas Recruiting Notes 2022 - Idiotic Slapfights Unrelated To 2022 Recruiting

[Dangle 92]

The "maybe he's a take as a TE" angle to the Phaizon imbroglio (which seems like bullshit) has me curious about TE evaluation.
It would be too easy to just take a WR who's at least 6'3" with a big frame and assume he can add the weight and play the (TE) position. Malcom Epps is a good, disappointing example.
Seems like there are plenty of guys with the size/frame to play the position. Is it super rare these guys also move well and have decent hands? Is it harder than I assume to become a competent blocker? Are talented prospects missed because not enough college offenses make good use of a well-rounded TE?
I would think after the impact Kelce, Waller, et al. are making in the NFL that more HS kids would be interested in playing TE and therefore college coaches could get some kind of recruiting advantage by emphasizing the position. Throwing it out there for discussion's sake.

[OU Sucks 8931]

1 hour ago, Machinator said:

 

aggy have their Billy Glasscock and now we have ours.

[Lonestar88 4702]

Have we confirmed Wilson got kicked off the team? Usually that type of stuff shows up in the news somewhere, I couldn’t find anything about it.

Anyways, I don’t want to take him right now, but I’d get no joy out of it if he really is trying to commit and is getting rebuffed. I’d mostly just feel secondhand embarrassment.

[satyanash 14642]

2 minutes ago, Dangle said:

Malcom Epps is a good, disappointing example.

MJ McFarland is always the guy I think of. Great size and athleticism for the TE position. But mostly disinterested in blocking.

[closetojumping 62896]

5 minutes ago, Lonestar88 said:

Have we confirmed Wilson got kicked off the team? Usually that type of stuff shows up in the news somewhere, I couldn’t find anything about it.

Anyways, I don’t want to take him right now, but I’d get no joy out of it if he really is trying to commit and is getting rebuffed. I’d mostly just feel secondhand embarrassment.

I posted it and it comes from someone that's been pretty fucking right about recruiting over the years, but it's not like I've seen transcripts. 

[conVINCEd 21473]

1 minute ago, Dangle said:

The "maybe he's a take as a TE" angle to the Phaizon imbroglio (which seems like bullshit) has me curious about TE evaluation.
It would be too easy to just take a WR who's at least 6'3" with a big frame and assume he can add the weight and play the (TE) position. Malcom Epps is a good, disappointing example.
Seems like there are plenty of guys with the size/frame to play the position. Is it super rare these guys also move well and have decent hands? Is it harder than I assume to become a competent blocker? Are talented prospects missed because not enough college offenses make good use of a well-rounded TE?
I would think after the impact Kelce, Waller, et al. are making in the NFL that more HS kids would be interested in playing TE and therefore college coaches could get some kind of recruiting advantage by emphasizing the position. Throwing it out there for discussion's sake.

My completely uninformed speculation is that if I kid views himself as a receiver he’s not going to want to gain the weight necessary to be an effective blocking TE. I was a safety, and my HS coach wanted me to put on some weight and play LB.  It was a reasonable request.  I was also the small forward on the basketball team.  Those two things were in conflict with each other and I had to make a choice.  I chose basketball, and it was probably the wrong choice in retrospect.  I simply had no desire to bulk up like that.  It went against how I viewed myself athletically.  You see it on defense with a guy like Overshown’s resistance to playing LB.

[Burt Macklin 19053]

14 minutes ago, Dangle said:

The "maybe he's a take as a TE" angle to the Phaizon imbroglio (which seems like bullshit) has me curious about TE evaluation.
It would be too easy to just take a WR who's at least 6'3" with a big frame and assume he can add the weight and play the (TE) position. Malcom Epps is a good, disappointing example.
Seems like there are plenty of guys with the size/frame to play the position. Is it super rare these guys also move well and have decent hands? Is it harder than I assume to become a competent blocker? Are talented prospects missed because not enough college offenses make good use of a well-rounded TE?
I would think after the impact Kelce, Waller, et al. are making in the NFL that more HS kids would be interested in playing TE and therefore college coaches could get some kind of recruiting advantage by emphasizing the position. Throwing it out there for discussion's sake.

Not mangy guys want to switch from WR to TE. It usually has to be a situation where their only chance of playing at a P5 or elite school is at TE, and even then, learning blocking for the position isn’t easy and takes full buy in from the player. It’s a lot more common to see guys switch from QB in HS to TE, like Kelce did. Wiley and Foristall (Bama TE) too. 

[Tex-19 2885]

Also a little odd that Fong is the only one with a Phaizon CB. Seems like usually other guys are jumping in at the same time

[KYHorn 17208]

7 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Not mangy guys want to switch from WR to TE. It usually has to be a situation where their only chance of playing at a P5 or elite school is at TE, and even then, learning blocking for the position isn’t easy and takes full buy in from the player. It’s a lot more common to see guys switch from QB in HS to TE, like Kelce did. Wiley and Foristall (Bama TE) too. 

And Swoopes. Oh, wait

[MoJames 8256]

2 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Also a little odd that Fong is the only one with a Phaizon CB. Seems like usually other guys are jumping in at the same time

Is it like a button on their control panel on the recruiting board? Like accidentally turning on his turn signal?

[Foosters 17889]

The three players on the right have listed heights of: 6'4", 6'2", and 6'0".

I'm confused.

 

[Had Enough 2088]

My completely uninformed speculation is that if I kid views himself as a receiver he’s not going to want to gain the weight necessary to be an effective blocking TE. I was a safety, and my HS coach wanted me to put on some weight and play LB.  It was a reasonable request.  I was also the small forward on the basketball team.  Those two things were in conflict with each other and I had to make a choice.  I chose basketball, and it was probably the wrong choice in retrospect.  I simply had no desire to bulk up like that.  It went against how I viewed myself athletically.  You see it on defense with a guy like Overshown’s resistance to playing LB.

So you're one of those pre-madonnas? Foregoing the opportunity to man up and play a more physical position. Physicality on which the game was originated. And you took it a step further and opted for basketball. Alrighty.

[Foosters 17889]

1 minute ago, Had Enough said:

22 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

My completely uninformed speculation is that if I kid views himself as a receiver he’s not going to want to gain the weight necessary to be an effective blocking TE. I was a safety, and my HS coach wanted me to put on some weight and play LB.  It was a reasonable request.  I was also the small forward on the basketball team.  Those two things were in conflict with each other and I had to make a choice.  I chose basketball, and it was probably the wrong choice in retrospect.  I simply had no desire to bulk up like that.  It went against how I viewed myself athletically.  You see it on defense with a guy like Overshown’s resistance to playing LB.

So you're one of those pre-madonnas? Foregoing the opportunity to man up and play a more physical position. Physicality on which the game was originated. And you took it a step further and opted for basketball. Alrighty.

lol whose sock is this

[closetohumping 17484]

Siap.  Klubnik told el Sadat that we’re still recruiting him and he ain’t scared of competition 

[UncleSonny 6575]

IT keeps holding firm that Phaizon isn't a commitment the staff would take, for them to take that firm of stance they must have some solid information they trust. 9.95ers know when to hedge. I'm inclined to believe Fong and/or Phaizon got their wires crossed a bit today.

 

[KYHorn 17208]

5 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

25 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

My completely uninformed speculation is that if I kid views himself as a receiver he’s not going to want to gain the weight necessary to be an effective blocking TE. I was a safety, and my HS coach wanted me to put on some weight and play LB.  It was a reasonable request.  I was also the small forward on the basketball team.  Those two things were in conflict with each other and I had to make a choice.  I chose basketball, and it was probably the wrong choice in retrospect.  I simply had no desire to bulk up like that.  It went against how I viewed myself athletically.  You see it on defense with a guy like Overshown’s resistance to playing LB.

So you're one of those pre-madonnas? Foregoing the opportunity to man up and play a more physical position. Physicality on which the game was originated. And you took it a step further and opted for basketball. Alrighty.

I'm thinking he's a millennial, so post-madonna most likely

[Leanderman 2277]

In Sark we trust. He has more information than some phat cheeto stuffing wanna be recruiting guru. The only thing that tub of lard has ever scooped was some chips during happy hour at the Landing Strip.

[Redmen62 126]

2 hours ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

Theres too much smoke for it not to be us. Blue said more news today, Murphy quoted the tweet, Phaizons twitter is very pro Texas, and he just got Fong'd but none of it makes any sense lmao.

What makes sense is that Phaizon has told current recruits that he’s going to commit to Texas but the coaches are not willing to take him. 

[Tex-19 2885]

4 minutes ago, Redmen62 said:

What makes sense is that Phaizon has told current recruits that he’s going to commit to Texas but the coaches are not willing to take him. 

Sadly this is probably right. Seems like those guys like him so hopefully no feathers get ruffled by Phaizon being a dumbass 

[Redmen62 126]

53 minutes ago, Dangle said:

The "maybe he's a take as a TE" angle to the Phaizon imbroglio (which seems like bullshit) has me curious about TE evaluation.
It would be too easy to just take a WR who's at least 6'3" with a big frame and assume he can add the weight and play the (TE) position. Malcom Epps is a good, disappointing example.
Seems like there are plenty of guys with the size/frame to play the position. Is it super rare these guys also move well and have decent hands? Is it harder than I assume to become a competent blocker? Are talented prospects missed because not enough college offenses make good use of a well-rounded TE?
I would think after the impact Kelce, Waller, et al. are making in the NFL that more HS kids would be interested in playing TE and therefore college coaches could get some kind of recruiting advantage by emphasizing the position. Throwing it out there for discussion's sake.

We had this debate as nauseam with LJH- there are a bunch of guys who are 6’3/6’4 200-210 and yet have zero chance of getting to 230-240 to play TE while keeping their athleticism. You can’t necessarily just add TE bulk to a guy regardless of frame. 

[Nope 3121]

25 minutes ago, Foosters said:

The three players on the right have listed heights of: 6'4", 6'2", and 6'0".

I'm confused.

 

6’3”

6’2”

5’11”

Via my eyeballs and science 

[TexasRenegade 2461]

11 minutes ago, Leanderman said:

In Sark we trust. He has more information than some phat cheeto stuffing wanna be recruiting guru. The only thing that tub of lard has ever scooped was some chips during happy hour at the Landing Strip.

Didn't @golfclap tell you, trust the coaches is a lazy and stupid take and your a bad person and intelligent enough to see the stupidity of this take.

[MoJames 8256]

3 minutes ago, Nope said:

6’3”

6’2”

5’11”

Via my eyeballs and science 

[Gut Wagon 8087]

4 hours ago, Irieguy said:

Genghis Khan had 2,000 children. 

Translation for aggy: 17 jars. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20521]

1 hour ago, Nope said:

Big Willy Glasscock

 

Have you been rummaging through my gf's nightstand again?

[futureman 22559]

7 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

Have you been rummaging through my gf's nightstand again?

can’t please your woman? 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13121]

8 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

Have you been rummaging through my gf's nightstand again?

Yes, I was looking for more condoms.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13121]

I won’t quote him for obvious reasons, but the mere notion that futureman’s entire adult life hasn’t been filled with his “lovers” laughing behind his back is  extremely comical. Granted, there’s probably only one or two of them.

[Michael Knight 12997]

3 hours ago, texifornia said:

Ehhhhhh.... the whole point of the movie is that it's never that black and white imo

Kind of like The Social Network - how far will you go for success?

i thought the point of the movie was that jazz sucks

[IDIOTsavant 8504]

12 minutes ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

Yes, I was looking for more condoms.

Apparently, he doesn't like to keep the XS's on top of the nightstand...also, I now understand why your first username was Casual Encounter.

Edited February 20, 2021 by IDIOTsavant

[Sgt. Slaughter 2841]

46 minutes ago, Redmen62 said:

What makes sense is that Phaizon has told current recruits that he’s going to commit to Texas but the coaches are not willing to take him. 

Satya is hoping this leads to a Rudy moment where everyone decommits to support their friend.

[victory88 5672]

So Kam Dewberry did a Q&A with a Texas fan affiliated Instagram account.  Someone asked which recruits he wanted to play with  in college.  He said Kelvin Banks and Denver Harris.  I found it interesting as we seem to lead for both of them based on recent reports.  

[billfromlaketravis 11550]

Kendra Scott is on Shark Tank tonight.
 

Sark sounds like Shark. 
 

Kendra Scott is a Texas Ex and was “very involved with the football program.”
 

Guys, we’re getting Ewers. 

Edited February 20, 2021 by billfromlaketravis

[Kanly 548]

2 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Kendra Scott is on Shark Tank tonight.
 

Sark sounds like Shark. 
 

Kendra Scott is a Texas Ex and was “very involved with the football program”. 
 

Guys, we’re getting Ewers. 

[UncleBuck 6455]

That, sir? That’s the good shit.
Get out your flight trackers!

[TexasToast 728]

5 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Kendra Scott is on Shark Tank tonight.
 

Sark sounds like Shark. 
 

Kendra Scott is a Texas Ex and was “very involved with the football program.”
 

Guys, we’re getting Ewers. 

[conVINCEd 21473]

6 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Look at virtually every WR and TE we recruited in the Bobby Kennedy era for a primer on how well the “let’s just bulk up this 6’3” 200 lb WR who is a step too slow to play outside and make him a TE instead” philosophy works.  

The profile should be more like taking power forward sized guys who you don’t expect to balloon up to lineman weight in college.  6’6” 230 like Wiley in high school is a pretty good profile.  

PJ Tucker would have been one hell of a TE.

[MoJames 8256]

PJ Tucker would have been one hell of a TE.

If he could've played class, that is. I'll take Damion James.

[conVINCEd 21473]

5 minutes ago, MoJames said:

12 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

PJ Tucker would have been one hell of a TE.

If he could've played class, that is. I'll take Damion James.

Too tall.  6’5” is the right height.  But I like the thought.  James Thomas would be on the list as well.

[Darth Tron 1140]

4 hours ago, RGBIII said:

I know the rule was getting relaxed but cant we not take Phaizon because of Chris Gilbert? 

That’s actually why we hired him.

[maninblack 7974]

7 minutes ago, Darth Tron said:

That’s actually why we hired him.

Ok I laughed

[HeyMcFly 144]

4 hours ago, Lonestar88 said:

Phaizon is a guy I wouldn’t have minded coming back to if we missed on some other top targets, (Coleman, Williams, Thompson, etc.) But I wouldn’t see the point in taking his commitment right now though.

our we 100% out on caleb burton?

[BurntOrangeBlooded15 1566]

15 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

Too tall.  6’5” is the right height.  But I like the thought.  James Thomas would be on the list as well.

James Thomas had bit of Rodman crazy in him.  DE for me 

[ShowMeALoss 143]

5 minutes ago, HeyMcFly said:

our we 100% out on caleb burton?

You should ask Mike Roach. He actually has met the kid.

[westexhorn 2020]

6 minutes ago, HeyMcFly said:

our we 100% out on caleb burton?

He took the initiative to throw the horns down recently so yes he is dead to us

[LTtxfan 49378]

5 hours ago, golfclap said:

 Texas finally hired a DPP and he's a meathead and certainly not a top tier DPP...       the DPP and his staff need to be ensuring that the bottom 8 guys in each class are better evals than our competition. That our secondary and tertiary choices are capable of landing on the 2-deep and contributing if we miss on our first options. It's a fucking meh hire. 

My expectations for Texas are to compete at an elite level, this hire is not a top tier hire. If you are happy with it - good for you - that's your expectation level. 

for me - this sums it up

I am amped as fuck that we landed Stewart and Blue. I am amped that the 2022 class is going to be really fucking good across the board. I also make a point to be realistic, for instance Stan Drayton is fucking terrible at his job and I've been saying this since what 2018? maybe even earlier, probably late in the 2017 season. That doesn't mean I don't love Bijan, Roshcon, et al and it doesn't mean that I changed my donation level or season tickets. (CDC's continued employment will very much change any paltry contributions that I do make because he's fucking terrible).

You can very much love the Longhorns and hate some of the coaches, players, hires, etc ... 

 

Just curious, who are some of the best DPP folks that TEXAS should have gone after besides the Cock's former DPP ??

[Jester 382]

15 minutes ago, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said:

James Thomas had bit of Rodman crazy in him.  DE for me 

Ya. But one of the coolest guys ever. Hung out with him at a few parties in college. /csb

But agreed. DE all the way though.  Just needed to toss some weight on him. 

[Newy25 7703]

3 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Just curious, who are some of the best DPP folks that TEXAS should have gone after besides the Cock's former DPP ??

He thinks Drayton is terrible at his job despite the fact that he is constantly in high demand by other college and NFL teams. Perhaps all of those other programs are idiots and golfclap is the real football genius over the likes of Urban Meyer or perhaps he is full of shit. I’m leaning towards the latter. 

[Lonestar88 4702]

34 minutes ago, HeyMcFly said:

our we 100% out on caleb burton?

Pretty much.

[Sir Ulrich 5191]