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3 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

So if/when we announce going to the SEC and that happens in the 2022-2023 seasons.  Who would we expect to flip?  Anyone that committed to aggy that only commited because of SECSEC

Looking at the list of current aggy commits, I don't see anybody the new staff offered or has engaged in talks with.  Think they offered Sylla shortly after arriving, but that ain't happening.

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I work closely with a certain previously committed 5 star QB's father (hint: its Quinn Ewers, for those who haven't been following recruiting closely like I have) and chatted with him a bit this after

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3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

From what Gerry was saying this week he was in play to begin with and this basically could make us the outright leader. He loves PK, the scheme, and how he would be used

He's also supposedly a big city guy who likes Austin

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2 hours ago, utfan87 said:

The problem is most of these schools are dead on arrival without Texas and ou. They could drag their feet finding a landing spot

this is completely backwards. The fact they have no leverage means they’ll be desperate to be the first ones to grab a seat at any P5 conference. They can’t afford to drag their feet and won’t. Baylor, TCU and Tech have all been reported to have called the PAC and KU has already got things in motion with the B1G. I’m sure ISU and OSU are trying like hell to find a spot too. 

 

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11 minutes ago, utexas8 said:

Moving to the SEC is a recruiting boost. Is Texas finally willing to drop bags? Because if they’re not then it’ll only take them so far.

Tell me you don't read the recruiting board without telling me you don't regularly read the recruiting board. 

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4 hours ago, Tex-19 said:

Biggest question around this is when will we actually move over. I have a feeling these quotes are from people thinking it's instant. If it's not until 2025, does that even really affect the class of 2022? Maybe, but idk. 

Everyone thought Aggy was gonna have to wait and then we let them leave immediately. Shit has to be postured and then negotiated but if we're leaving we're leaving next year.

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32 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

Everyone thought Aggy was gonna have to wait and then we let them leave immediately. Shit has to be postured and then negotiated but if we're leaving we're leaving next year.

Yep--uncertainty isn't a selling point for any Big12 team's recruiting.  Have to be proactive and survive and have footing somewhere to sell.  

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4 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Which is also why I snidely brought up Guilbeau. It's going to be fun to watch Fat Gary teach you how to cover Boise and Nevada wideouts.

Fat Gare probably won't be around long now.  He will be picking his guitar and caterwauling in some Fort Worth honky-tonk.  

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14 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Anything noteworthy in the Humidor today?  

Spoiler

This week was a great reminder of why you should never get too high or too low when you follow your favorite team this closely. People who watch the stock ticker every day don’t vary between taking a nosedive out of the 30th story and popping bottles in celebration. You need to stay even-ish.

Well, maybe you should get a little higher this week than normal. Take that advice however you please, board potheads.

Whether or not you like the move to the SEC, you have to love the guile, aggressiveness, and forward thinking of the Texas decision makers. How long has it been since you’ve seen UT truly swing its might around? Fret not, indeed.

NIL

In the middle of Wednesday’s hysteria it was mentioned everything in the ‘Fret not’ piece is already in the works. That is, some ambitious alums are working to build a sophisticated network to enrich Texas players.

We’re going to keep details on the apparatus quiet but it’s being run by the sorts of competent and motivated people you’d want running it.

SEC and recruiting

Earlier in the week IT was on the phone with a source in Austin regarding some priority recruitments. In an attempt to feel out the source on the SEC (before news went public) the source was asked if he’d heard anything regarding realignment. He stated he hadn’t, and while sounding somewhat in disbelief after he was told about the SEC, he mentioned that would be huge and make the coaches’ job much more easier.

The SEC sell is the most difficult external factor for the staff to overcome, especially from Texas A&M.

Timing of the move

As IT has mentioned, the final steps have not yet been taken to close the deal out but there’s an extremely high level of confidence this will all go through. While UT is tied to the conference until 2025, we believe a break will happen much earlier with 2022 most likely, and 2023 at the latest. IT does not believe the final decision on that is set in stone — clearly there are some legal entanglements to navigate — but 2022 is more likely than 2023.

That ties into recruiting as well. A second lame duck year in the Big 12 doesn’t sound all that appealing, does it?

The genesis of the move

Preliminary discussions began before NIL legislation became law but greatly intensified once it was known the law would pass. As you’ve read, there would be no point in Texas joining the SEC without tools to mitigate time honored SEC recruiting practices.

When IT first heard rumbles of those preliminary discussions it was assumed Alabama (IT heard Bama was at the forefront) and UT were leading the charge for four conferences of 16 teams, or maybe five conferences of 12 teams. After showing spine and playing through Covid, the Big 12 looked at least somewhat safe to make it to the new landscape.

That assumption was so terrifically incorrect.

LHN

We’re not saying it’s set in stone but it’s been discussed the LHN will be folded into the SEC Network. The SEC Network could become two channels, with LHN perhaps covering the West and the current SEC Network covering the East. Of course the SEC may break down into pods so who really knows, but the takeaway is they’ll try to be clever with what they do with the LHN rather than just scrapping it altogether.

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WR Evan Stewart, Liberty (Frisco, TX) - 2022: The state’s top receiver was more than moved when he heard Texas and the SEC could be happening.

Stewart's family members are big fans of the Southeastern Conference, and he’s supposed to see Florida again on July 30th.

This is a recruitment that Texas can win, even before the SEC news broke. Now, I think the Horns are set up nicely. Stewart is open to returning to Austin for a game this fall.

LB Harold Perkins, Cy-Park (Cypress, TX) - 2022: The state’s top linebacker is feeling the Texas vibe. The hybrid LB/S position the staff has discussed with the five-star athlete is beginning to resonate. IT spoke with a source close to Perkins on Wednesday, and this person believes Texas is currently ahead of Texas A&M among the in-state schools due to Texas' scheme and a liking for the city of Austin. As we have maintained, this is a recruitment that remains scheduled to last until the first week of January. Fall OV’s to Florida and Oregon are scheduled, and Alabama could also receive one. There will be unofficials to Texas, Texas A&M and LSU in the fall. Perkins remains scheduled to be in Austin on July 30, and the source was unsure if he would be at Texas A&M the following day due to a potential scheduling conflict.

EDGE Derrick Brown, Texas High (Texarkana, TX) - 2022: One recruitment where Texas is looking outstanding is with the 6-foot-4, 210-pound four-star from the edge of East Texas. Brown has a top two of Texas and Baylor and is set to see Austin again on July 30, one day before he announces his decision.

This dude liked UT before the SEC discussion. Now, calculator.

LB Jeremy Patton, Tenaha (Tenaha, TX): After catching up with the 6-foot-2, 210-pound three-star, IT believes Texas remains in a great spot for the athletic inside linebacker. He’s down to UT, Baylor, and Michigan, with a visit to Austin scheduled for July 30. He wants to announce the next day. With his mother joining him for this ATX trip, it could be the final blessing he’s looking for.

About the impending move to the SEC?

“That would really be something,” said Patton.

LB Sebastian Cheeks, Township (Evanston, IL) - 2022: One of the top inside linebackers for this cycle is close to a decision.

Texas, North Carolina, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Oregon fill out his final five, but IT hears UNC holds the cards today.

Cheeks hasn’t told any staffers of his intentions yet, but a source close to Cheeks says Mack Brown and the Tar Heels have some confidence going into Cheeks' announcement on July 28.

LB Lander Barton, Brighton (Salt Lake City, UT) - 2022: The 6-foot-4, 215-pound four-star linebacker has set September 24 as his Texas official visit date. With 15 offers including LSU, Notre Dame, and Oregon, Barton stays close to the UT staff, particularly Jeff Choate.

Utah is viewed as the leader here, and with Cheeks unlikely for Texas or Michigan right now, Barton becomes the focus for Jim Harbaugh. If Texas takes Patton, numbers will probably start to matter at the position moving forward in the 2022 class.

CB Denver Harris, Galena Park North Shore (Houston, TX) - 2022: IT spoke with multiple people close to Harris at North Shore early in the week, and every one of them believes Alabama holds the lead for the five-star cornerback. Does that mean they will be correct? If Harris makes a decision based on football only, IT believes Alabama is the heavy favorite. The recruiting of the mom, dad and older brother are all very important for Texas. With a late September decision likely, the Longhorns have time to show a product on the field, and the potential news of a move to the SEC could make a major impact.

DB Bryce Anderson, West Brook (Beaumont, TX) - 2022: The news of the potential move to the SEC is not lost on Anderson. Texas continues to be the slight favorite over Texas A&M headed into the July 30 and 31 unofficial visits to Austin and College Station. The decommitment of Jaylon Guilbeau is not a deal breaker for Texas and Anderson.

DB Jaylon Guilbeau, Memorial (Port Arthur, TX) - 2022: Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian had a Zoom call with Guilbeau and family the night the 6-foot, 180-pound defender decommitted. Word from a source is Sarkisian didn’t put the hard sell on Guilbeau. IT believes Texas was fine if Guilbeau wanted to be part of the class, but wasn’t considered a prospect that was must-keep. TCU head coach Gary Patterson is a quality evaluator of defensive backs, so we shall see if that was the right call in the coming years. Texas A&M is also in the mix, but Guilbeau has the best relationships with the TCU staff.

HOOPS

There was an accurate report put out this week about four-star big man and Texas target Yohan Traore (Prolific Prep, CA) being offered a multi-year deal for $1 million by the Overtime Elite league. IT can say this - Traore is not taking the deal.

Here is where the Overtime Elite league is different than the NBA affiliated G-League; the Overtime Elite league isn’t giving a guaranteed contract. They are asking high school kids to leave high school and head to their league for player development. But they can release the player at any point without further financial obligation. That is why it’s crucial for these kids to have great people around them to navigate this new business world these athletes are about to enter into.

As far as Traore’s recruitment, Texas is pushing. Tennessee is right there according to a source. UCLA, USC, Oregon, Kansas and others are in the mix.

On to five-star SG Keyonte George (iSchool Academy). IT reported earlier in the week that the 6-foot-4 guard is very likely to announce a decision in late August or early September. George continues to maintain he intends to play college basketball for a year before heading off to the NBA. George sees how Cade Cunningham built his brand in college for a year, and there is feeling from George and his circle that the NIL money he will make in college for a year could come close to matching a G-League deal. Texas continues to be the favorite over Baylor with Kansas and Oklahoma State on the outside looking in.

 

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I will admit that over the last two recruiting seasons I've been pretty negative about the prospects for Texas. I saw the tide shifting in a major way towards A&M and other SEC schools. This move to the SEC is the single greatest decision and move that Texas could have made to try and recover from the late Mack Brown, Charlie Strong, and Herman years. Frankly, nothing as radical as this would have worked, IMO. Nevertheless, it looks like it's happening and as a result, this is going to be the greatest, funnest Surly/Shaggy Board in history moving forward.  It will make Malikmas look like a minor footnote.  I am pumped as fuck.

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DB Jaylon Guilbeau, Memorial (Port Arthur, TX) - 2022: Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian had a Zoom call with Guilbeau and family the night the 6-foot, 180-pound defender decommitted. Word from a source is Sarkisian didn’t put the hard sell on Guilbeau. IT believes Texas was fine if Guilbeau wanted to be part of the class, but wasn’t considered a prospect that was must-keep. TCU head coach Gary Patterson is a quality evaluator of defensive backs, so we shall see if that was the right call in the coming years. Texas A&M is also in the mix, but Guilbeau has the best relationships with the TCU staff.

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6 hours ago, texifornia said:

It won't be 2025. With KU already dipping out, you know someone (WVU? Tech?) is going to kick out the last leg of the stool and be the 4th team needed to collapse the GOR and let us leave in a season.

Doesn’t there need to be six teams gone to collapse the GOR?

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How does the realignment affect recruiting in Texas? 

It would be fun to see less poaching by Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame, and Oregon because they're in weaker conferences - we'd get to use their pitch against them. It also seems possible that it takes some of the teeth out of pitches made by Alabama and LSU, though we would need to beat them to keep them out. 

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How does the realignment affect recruiting in Texas? 

It would be fun to see less poaching by Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame, and Oregon because they're in weaker conferences - we'd get to use their pitch against them. It also seems possible that it takes some of the teeth out of pitches made by Alabama and LSU, though we would need to beat them to keep them out. 

First year will be great, but then we'll need to prove it. But the "secsecsec" hype will absolutely get us kids we wouldn't have ever had a chance with before. Good times are ahead 

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1 hour ago, Sal said:

How does the realignment affect recruiting in Texas? 

It would be fun to see less poaching by Ohio State, Clemson, Notre Dame, and Oregon because they're in weaker conferences - we'd get to use their pitch against them. It also seems possible that it takes some of the teeth out of pitches made by Alabama and LSU, though we would need to beat them to keep them out. 

I think it’s a larger net impact on regional and national recruiting. You’re going to pull Citizen out of Louisiana to play in Lawrence? Smael Mondon away from Georgia to play in Ames? Not since the SEC bias made Starkvegas a fucking destination city.

Austin will be an SEC oasis. We’ll be an attractive option to west coast and big city kids who don’t like the Deep South. While losing less kids from Texas to oos schools is a major benefit, I think the added benefit of a 5* or two that may have ended up at a national power, year over year, is what gets you over the hump. 
 

Also, I wonder if we’ll drop the fOSU series. And I wonder who we replace Alabama with. 

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3 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

I think it’s a larger net impact on regional and national recruiting. You’re going to pull Citizen out of Louisiana to play in Lawrence? Smael Mondon away from Georgia to play in Ames? Not since the SEC bias made Starkvegas a fucking destination city.

Austin will be an SEC oasis. We’ll be an attractive option to west coast and big city kids who don’t like the Deep South. While losing less kids from Texas to oos schools is a major benefit, I think the added benefit of a 5* or two that may have ended up at a national power, year over year, is what gets you over the hump. 
 

Also, I wonder if we’ll drop the fOSU series. And I wonder who we replace Alabama with. 

I think it will take a lot of luck for 2022 vs Bama to be a conference game.

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I'm of the belief that the main reason we are moving to the SEC is because our recruiting has slipped since aggy opened a pipeline to the SEC. We're gonna start to put together some incredible classes once the move is formalized. I think we'll be in the SEC in 2022 or 2023, but even if we have to wait until 2025 to play our first SEC game its not the worst outcome. This upcoming 2022 signing class, for example, would know that at the very latest, they'll play in the SEC their senior year.

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