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Thanks. I have been on the boards since 1997 when I was a student at Texas. We've spent decades as fans and board patrons feeling powerless to create any real change. The Internet, social media,

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I work closely with a certain previously committed 5 star QB's father (hint: its Quinn Ewers, for those who haven't been following recruiting closely like I have) and chatted with him a bit this after

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15 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

Big risk having Samples as a WR coach. I'd probably prefer Jeff Banks to move over to WR's and let Samples coach the TE's. If we are going after samples, then we'd likely get him since we have Gilbert already on staff. 

Another reason is that samples would come is Drayton. He was assistant RB coach under Drayton when he was here. Im sure that Drayton helped him a lot. Play that angle too.

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19 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

Big risk having Samples as a WR coach. I'd probably prefer Jeff Banks to move over to WR's and let Samples coach the TE's. If we are going after samples, then we'd likely get him since we have Gilbert already on staff. 

Samples at TE would make the Burnt Ends a lot of fun, I am sure he would be more in the mix than Banks has been

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22 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

Big risk having Samples as a WR coach. I'd probably prefer Jeff Banks to move over to WR's and let Samples coach the TE's. If we are going after samples, then we'd likely get him since we have Gilbert already on staff. 

Why is it a big risk to ask the guy who played WR, was assistant WR coach at Texas, and worked with WRs at UH to be a WR coach?

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Literally the best move Texas could make would be to hire Samples. IMO it would be even better than bringing in Ewers. Which is precisely why it wont happen, have yall not learned that we cant have nice things?

Even worse is that it didn't happen a year ago. Many defended Sark's decision to keep Coleman, but it never made any sense. Maybe he is a great mentor but he was not a good WR coach hire. We were told we were getting Wiggins, then Simmons, but ended up with Coleman lol.

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Bryce Young's dad did not appreciate Saban talking about that

I am sure. Like RGIII said, it is balancing act. There is definitely a middle ground between Saban and what Texas is doing. The 2 loudest schools on NIL have been Bama and OSU, they sit 1 and 2 in the class rankings. This is just another facet of NIL. How do you get enough information out there on your players making money, without alienating them .

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11 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Literally the best move Texas could make would be to hire Samples. IMO it would be even better than bringing in Ewers. Which is precisely why it wont happen, have yall not learned that we cant have nice things?

This is the last year on Coleman's contract, right?  If so, he's going to get replaced (especially once Stewart commits elsewhere).  No better time to get Samples than now right?  BTW do position coaches have buyouts?

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37 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

It's really hard for me to see them letting Gideon go. Thats gotta be a bad PR move with him being a letterman and playing so recently. Thats a lot of alumni support potentially gone out of the window. 

the “alumni” would support anything that means winning games. 

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8 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

This is the last year on Coleman's contract, right?  If so, he's going to get replaced (especially once Stewart commits elsewhere).  No better time to get Samples than now right?  BTW do position coaches have buyouts?

You just have to pay them the remaining $ on their contract. Coleman is on a 2 year deal. Just double checked. Making $450k this year and $500k next year

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51 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

Big risk having Samples as a WR coach. I'd probably prefer Jeff Banks to move over to WR's and let Samples coach the TE's. If we are going after samples, then we'd likely get him since we have Gilbert already on staff. 

you mean the Jeff Banks who has never in his career coached WR? and whose college position was punter?

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vs the guy who has never coached TE in his career, but who has at least coached WR?

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Prior to arriving on the Hilltop, Samples worked at the University of Texas since February 2018. While with the Longhorns, Samples was as an on-campus recruiter and an assistant wide receivers coach. He was vital in the development of receivers Devin Duvernay and Lil’ Jordan Humphrey. Samples also played an important role in the Longhorns’ recruiting success.

Prior to his stint at Texas, Samples spent two years as an offensive assistant at the University of Houston in 2016 and 2017 working with the running backs and receivers (2016) under Darrell Wyatt and working with the quarterbacks (2017) under Brian Johnson. He played a role in the mentorship of Kyle Allen, D'Eriq King and Marquez Stevenson.

 

and I think he was also the WR coach his first year at SMU? and played WR in college?

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1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

I understand that, but there is a reason Saban was talking about Bryce Young being a millionaire before the season. The biggest benefit of NIL for the program is the word getting out that stars are making 7 figs. 

 

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I am sure. Like RGIII said, it is balancing act. There is definitely a middle ground between Saban and what Texas is doing. The 2 loudest schools on NIL have been Bama and OSU, they sit 1 and 2 in the class rankings. This is just another facet of NIL. How do you get enough information out there on your players making money, without alienating them .

1) Saban was told to shut the fuck up about Bryce Young’s money by his father the day Saban put it out there at the Texas high school coaches gathering. The next day, he was mum on the matter at SEC media days. Young’s father said he could play and make money anywhere and he didn’t need to be used as a Saban pawn for recruiting. Saban got religion pretty quickly.

2) That shit got out to coaches everywhere. There is a reluctance to talk about such matters because savvy parents and players don’t appreciate it. You guys may not like it, but Hudson Card is making 6 figures right now. You don’t hear about it, but recruits and such know these things. 

3) Oregon has been lapping the field on this stuff, way out ahead of OSU and others. Michigan, Texas, Miami, Notre Dame and others have all had as much get out there or publicized as the two schools you picked. Don’t p-hack the data to get the result you want. Your point is fine without posturing it in that way. 

4) As some of us have said the whole way, the NIL shit from Texas’ end started off with a face plant but it isn’t really behind anyone else besides Oregon. There is a very real argument to be made that Texas will have one of the biggest NIL stories so far and a blueprint for how you meet a payroll with our kind of power and money soon enough, in spite of UT’s best efforts to fuck it up. Not a done deal, but things are headed in the right direction on that front, at least.

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5 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

I do believe that he is a going to be a great recruiter for us. If we had any pulse he probably lands Anderson this cycle.

You’ve had an awesome run the last two pages. I, for one, really hope to see you posting even more. Please get as many scorching hawt takes out there about coaching scenarios and backgrounds as you can. 

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1) Saban was told to shut the fuck up about Bryce Young’s money by his father the day Saban put it out there at the Texas high school coaches gathering. The next day, he was mum on the matter at SEC media days. Young’s father said he could play and make money anywhere and he didn’t need to be used as a Saban pawn for recruiting. Saban got religion pretty quickly.

2) That shit got out to coaches everywhere. There is a reluctance to talk about such matters because savvy parents and players don’t appreciate it. You guys may not like it, but Hudson Card is making 6 figures right now. You don’t hear about it, but recruits and such know these things. 

3) Oregon has been lapping the field on this stuff, way out ahead of OSU and others. Michigan, Texas, Miami, Notre Dame and others have all had as much get out there or publicized as the two schools you picked. Don’t p-hack the data to get the result you want. Your point is fine without posturing it in that way. 

4) As some of us have said the whole way, the NIL shit from Texas’ end started off with a face plant but it isn’t really behind anyone else besides Oregon. There is a very real argument to be made that Texas will have one of the biggest NIL stories so far and a blueprint for how you meet a payroll with our kind of power and money soon enough, in spite of UT’s best efforts to fuck it up. Not a done deal, but things are headed in the right direction on that front, at least.

Do you think Card makes more than Casey?

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Biggins: Texas commit Maalik Murphy set to play for CIF Championship

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Gardena (Calif.) Serra quarterback Maalik Murphy has his Cavaliers playing for a CIF Championship this weekend for the first time since 2012.

Serra is a proud program with a great winning tradition but the program hasn’t a had a lot of playoff success in recent years. In fact, their last playoff win was back in 2015 when quarterback Khalil Tate was running the show for the Cavs.

“It’s been a lot of fun,” Murphy told us earlier today at the CIF Championship luncheon. “I had never been in a playoff game until this year and now we’re playing in the finals.

“I was hurt my sophomore year and we didn’t even have playoffs last year so this year has been special. It’s a great opportunity for our team to bring a Championship back to Serra and a great way to end my senior year.”

Murphy has always had all the physical tools you could want is a next level quarterback and is now starting to put it together on the field. He has had a solid senior season, completing 161-243 passes (66%) for 2,341 yards and 17 touchdowns.

He has also rushed for 85 yards and six more scores and has improved his pocket mobility, ability to extend a play and looks more poised under duress. It hasn’t always been smooth or easy but capping off his career with a CIF Title would a great reward for Murphy, who through ups and downs, was always a great leader and a teammate.

On the recruiting front, Murphy committed to Texas back in February and said his pledge to the Horns remains rock solid.

“I’m 100% locked in,” Murphy said. “I know they have struggled recently but that doesn’t impact me at all. I look at the offense and they’re still putting up points. I see the issues and feel they just need to learn how to finish games and I’m excited to come in to the locker room and compete and help any way I can.

“I really think I have a chance to come in and battle for a job, whether that be as a starter or a back up. My mind set is to come and compete hard and do what I can to help change the culture there. I think the talent is there and I believe in the coaching staff. I’ve never wavered at all and I still believe everything is in place to make a run over the next few years.”

Murphy said he’s well aware Texas is recruiting other quarterbacks as well, namely Devin Brown, but isn’t concerned by it in the least.

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“The coaches have been very transparent and communicated the need to bring in a second quarterback in this class,” Murphy said. “I was never blind sided or anything, the coaches always kept me in the loop. I understand the need, the quarterback room next year could be a little light.

“It doesn’t bother me at all. You have to go out and compete anywhere you go. I’m still set to sign in December and in January, I’ll be in Austin. It’s crazy how fast the year has gone but I’m excited and can’t wait.”

 

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8 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

I am sorry for speculating on a message board. 

You weren't speculating. You were talking out of your ass about 2 specific issues that are easily researched ahead of said asstalking. You raised the notion that Samples might not have the background for being a WR coach and you then threw out the idea that Banks, alternatively, might be a great fit on that front. 

And now, without a hint of irony on your end, you ran off and launched a coaching change thread on the recruiting board. Good shit.

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12 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Do you think Card makes more than Casey?

No clue. Behind the scenes, Card was the presumptive starter heading into the season. He had interest due to that. His family hired him an agent, began touting the presumptive starter tag, and he picked up some legit deals. So the story goes at least. Since the Arkansas game, there hasn't exactly been a clamoring to throw money at either QB. 

I'm sure if Thompson wasn't making some money, his dad would be hammering that through Chip Brown and others as well. 

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1) Saban was told to shut the fuck up about Bryce Young’s money by his father the day Saban put it out there at the Texas high school coaches gathering. The next day, he was mum on the matter at SEC media days. Young’s father said he could play and make money anywhere and he didn’t need to be used as a Saban pawn for recruiting. Saban got religion pretty quickly.

2) That shit got out to coaches everywhere. There is a reluctance to talk about such matters because savvy parents and players don’t appreciate it. You guys may not like it, but Hudson Card is making 6 figures right now. You don’t hear about it, but recruits and such know these things. 

3) Oregon has been lapping the field on this stuff, way out ahead of OSU and others. Michigan, Texas, Miami, Notre Dame and others have all had as much get out there or publicized as the two schools you picked. Don’t p-hack the data to get the result you want. Your point is fine without posturing it in that way. 

4) As some of us have said the whole way, the NIL shit from Texas’ end started off with a face plant but it isn’t really behind anyone else besides Oregon. There is a very real argument to be made that Texas will have one of the biggest NIL stories so far and a blueprint for how you meet a payroll with our kind of power and money soon enough, in spite of UT’s best efforts to fuck it up. Not a done deal, but things are headed in the right direction on that front, at least.

 

As to #4 - what is your best guess in regards to timing on this NIL development? Post NDS1 or NSD2? Is this something that is going to benefit all players, groupings, or just a few individuals. Understand you may not be privy to or be able to share too many details.

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As to #4 - what is your best guess in regards to timing on this NIL development? Post NDS1 or NSD2? Is this something that is going to benefit all players, groupings, or just a few individuals. Understand you may not be privy to or be able to share too many details.

some folks have said something about things happening before 12/15 but just noticed that is NSD1 lol

so i assume, yes?

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As to #4 - what is your best guess in regards to timing on this NIL development? Post NDS1 or NSD2? Is this something that is going to benefit all players, groupings, or just a few individuals. Understand you may not be privy to or be able to share too many details.

Pre-NSD1. If it gets done, it could be a floodgate opener across potentially every sport but starting with a key part of football. Just be patient and remember that this is going big or going home, and given what we've lived over the last 12 years, you have to give going home its due consideration.

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As to #4 - what is your best guess in regards to timing on this NIL development? Post NDS1 or NSD2? Is this something that is going to benefit all players, groupings, or just a few individuals. Understand you may not be privy to or be able to share too many details.

It’ll be a busy two weeks 

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Russell Erxleben and Chance Mock are organizing an investment fund for the players.   Still a lot of moving parts, but it’s going to be big when it all comes together.

They're working with Art Schlichter on a cross-conference concept that could be really big for those getting in on the ground floor.

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11 hours ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

I have never seen a more sensitive fanbase lmao. I hope he was talking about Jimbo thats funny lol

 

Just went back and listened to Sark's comments they're all butthurt about. Like has been said, it if was intentional, that's gold. I'm more fascinated that Liucci indirectly made Sark's point for him. Jimbo's first year at aggy (9-4 including a bowl win) and all the years since is pretty similar to every aggy season since 2013 (7 or 8 regular season wins), but Jimbo has been faring better in bowl games than late Sumlin, so he's maintained the status quo pretty well without really improving all that much despite the really good recruiting. I'd be happy to trade places with them, but he never ceases to amaze me. 

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Imade had a quote yesterday about Flood that gave me a lot of hope:
 

Guard Tope Imade, a sixth-year player, is the rare Longhorn who has played for three different head coaches during his time on campus. “I know from the short time I’ve had with Coach Sark, he is the guy,” he said.

Imade also praised offensive line coach Kyle Flood. Imade would know; he’s played for four position coaches during his time at UT. “I couldn't be any more grateful,” he said. “Even outside of me, I see walk-ons developing, and that’s amazing. You know, I've never seen that here before.”

Give this man a 10th year of eligibility! #10forTope

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Just went back and listened to Sark's comments they're all butthurt about. Like has been said, it if was intentional, that's gold. I'm more fascinated that Liucci indirectly made Sark's point for him. Jimbo's first year at aggy (9-4 including a bowl win) and all the years since is pretty similar to every aggy season since 2013 (7 or 8 regular season wins), but Jimbo has been faring better in bowl games than late Sumlin, so he's maintained the status quo pretty well without really improving all that much despite the really good recruiting. I'd be happy to trade places with them, but he never ceases to amaze me. 

their conference numbers are actually pretty hilariously right on track if you exclude 2020

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and here is what happens if they lose to LSU (prediction tracker has A&M winning about 65% of the time, median line of A&M by 5.74)

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i mean, that is hilariously right on track with Sumlin

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Pre-NSD1. If it gets done, it could be a floodgate opener across potentially every sport but starting with a key part of football. Just be patient and remember that this is going big or going home, and given what we've lived over the last 12 years, you have to give going home its due consideration.

Are we talking nurse money here?

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Pre-NSD1. If it gets done, it could be a floodgate opener across potentially every sport but starting with a key part of football. Just be patient and remember that this is going big or going home, and given what we've lived over the last 12 years, you have to give going home its due consideration.

*lightning strikes ominously as Plonsky punches her zombie fist up through the soil*

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I am sure. Like RGIII said, it is balancing act. There is definitely a middle ground between Saban and what Texas is doing. The 2 loudest schools on NIL have been Bama and OSU, they sit 1 and 2 in the class rankings. This is just another facet of NIL. How do you get enough information out there on your players making money, without alienating them .

Talk about cumulative NIL deals on the team or on each side of the ball or by position group without talking about specific players.

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Pre-NSD1. If it gets done, it could be a floodgate opener across potentially every sport but starting with a key part of football. Just be patient and remember that this is going big or going home, and given what we've lived over the last 12 years, you have to give going home its due consideration.

can the university provide free tax accounting services?

so 85 scholarship players.  QB/LT/End/WR/Corners going to command the most.  what do you think?  maybe 30M a year payroll?

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