Texas Recruiting Notes 2022 - Idiotic Slapfights Unrelated To 2022 Recruiting

[BurntOrange&White 39,931]

11 minutes ago, TriStone said:

His offense seems to work very well when the players execute it.  Even slightly better performance from the QB and the OL and this season looks a lot different.  I haven't given up on Card yet, and I have faith that Flood can improve the OL if given time.  The defense was a major issue, especially the lack of any kind of pass rush, but the Patterson news would suggest he recognizes that and is taking steps to address it.

 

This is a reactionary opinion.  There isn't enough data on Sark yet to make that judgement.

 

Each of our previous two coaches was given enough time to show what they were capable of.  Charlie earned his shitcanning with three straight losing seasons.  It might have been a good idea to give Herman another year, but he was a miserable cunt who no one liked so he kind of earned his shitcanning as well.  Sark has had one season, and that's not enough time to draw a definitive conclusion.  If he continues to lose, he'll go, but any suggestion of firing Sark after one season is an opinion to be disregarded.

 

Dudes nickname is seven win Steve. You’re expecting a lot out of a guy who has that nickname. Also I don’t think it’s a coincidence that our admin made his buyout 70% and not fully guaranteed 

[Etexhorn13 3,045]

Well this has been a real buzz kill. I think I’m going to just check out for a while. 

[Dbeasy 15,049]

I’ve not been able to effectively predict head coach success. So, instead I start looking for red flags. The lack of suitable back up plans for top talent that this board knows isn’t coming to Texas is a massive red flag. 
 

I’m worried about whether a 4-5 year rebuild is possible because it isn’t if you have the wrong head coach.

 

[TriStone 1,724]

3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Dudes nickname is seven win Steve. You’re expecting a lot out of a guy who has that nickname. Also I don’t think it’s a coincidence that our admin made his buyout 70% and not fully guaranteed 

Yes it is, and it's just awesome that our own fans dutifully assist in the negative recruiting.  Nevertheless, it doesn't change the fact that firing a head coach after one season is a retarded suggestion.

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18 minutes ago, ONE YARD said:

Not with the way recruiting is going.  This is looking to be worst than the Charlie years. 

We're likely to have a better recruiting class than either of Charlie's.   Everyone is going to A&M - so it feels worse - but its likely to have a better per player average and that's with two specialists in this class..

[Bevo14 8,311]

I'm gonna wait a few weeks before shitting my pants, but if Sark doesn't make some good moves this offseason, this administration would be better off spending whatever money they're considering using to buy us out of the Big 12 to shitcan sark and pay off whoever needs to be paid off to tank the Panthers' season next year and land Rhule.

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1 minute ago, TriStone said:

Yes it is, and it's just awesome that our own fans dutifully assist in the negative recruiting.  Nevertheless, it doesn't change the fact that firing a head coach after one season is a retarded suggestion.

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A 4-5 year "rebuild" is total bullshit. Not like we are tanking for draft picks, the portal allows player movement more freely than ever before in CFB. And this shit is going to take 4 years to rebuild? The 2022 class will be seniors when we are done "rebuilding"? Thats horse shit excuses and generally unacceptable. If Urban Meyer or someone with that pedigree was introduced as our HC tomorrow we likely close on every major recruitment left in the balance and aggy shits down their leg for the next century per usual. When I told my aggy buddies that we hired Sark, the only thing they said was "Thank fucking God", think that opinion has changed? I understand why we havent pulled the plug on sark already but my god, at this point we are just biding time and waiting and praying that he doesnt scorched fucking earth this roster again like the last two fucking guys did, and boy if he doesnt make serious changes this offseason we ALL fucking know what next year and the one after looks like

[TxTower 651]

Per CTJ source we should have around 5 high profile players we get right before signing day. Should we start making guesses or assume his source is wrong?
 

I’ll drink to that!


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2 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

A 4-5 year "rebuild" is total bullshit. Not like we are tanking for draft picks, the portal allows player movement more freely than ever before in CFB. And this shit is going to take 4 years to rebuild? The 2022 class will be seniors when we are done "rebuilding"? Thats horse shit excuses and generally unacceptable. If Urban Meyer or someone with that pedigree was introduced as our HC tomorrow we likely close on every major recruitment left in the balance and aggy shits down their leg for the next century per usual. When I told my aggy buddies that we hired Sark, the only thing they said was "Thank fucking God", think that opinion has changed? I understand why we havent pulled the plug on sark already but my god, at this point we are just biding time and waiting and praying that he doesnt scorched fucking earth this roster again like the last two fucking guys did, and boy if he doesnt make serious changes this offseason we ALL fucking know what next year and the one after looks like

LOUDER AGAIN FOR THOSE IN THE BACK!

 

we fucked up hiring sark. Now we eat it for likely 1-3 more years. And just hope he can get to 9 wins

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13 minutes ago, TriStone said:

This is a reactionary opinion.  There isn't enough data on Sark yet to make that judgement.

 

Each of our previous two coaches was given enough time to show what they were capable of.  Charlie earned his shitcanning with three straight losing seasons.  It might have been a good idea to give Herman another year, but he was a miserable cunt who no one liked so he kind of earned his shitcanning as well.  Sark has had one season, and that's not enough time to draw a definitive conclusion.  If he continues to lose, he'll go, but any suggestion of firing Sark after one season is an opinion to be disregarded.

 

My view is that the one thing we should have gotten really good at as fans over the last 12 years is how to spot a loser. You're failing that test with this post and you're a better poster than that. Sarkisian is a loser. That's not speculative. He's a loser this season with a roster that shouldn't have gone 5-7. They shouldn't have lost to Kansas. They should have beaten OU, OSU, and Baylor. They choked those games. That wasn't a shitty culture doing that. That was shitty coaching managing leads very poorly. I don't even understand how this narrative that "it's bad players and a shitty culture" has taken root over the past month. Can those two things be correct? Fine. I'm not going to die on the "the players are all amazing!" hill, but that shit is far outweighed by what we witnessed from the staff. 

Need other proof points besides record and second half depantsings and losing to fucking Kansas? I challenge you or anyone else here to credibly claim that the players got better this season as the year wore on. Please, try to do it. Texas got fucking worse. That's coaching. If guys quit on you, put in guys that didn't. If the whole team quit on you, yeah, pack your fucking bags, loser. No, we kept seeing guys out there that had no business still being out there. 

Beyond all of that, the guy won 8 games once at Washington and 9 games with other people's talent at USC. Outside of that, he never won much, was ignominiously fired for being a drunkard in mid-season of year 2 of a tenure, and was fired as an OC in the NFL while taking the offense backwards from what he inherited. 

He's simply a member of a long line of coaches who have looked great as a coach under Saban who then go elsewhere and it's a mixed bag. 

There is nothing that Seven Loss Steve has done in the greater context of his career to merit anyone's benefit of the doubt here. As such, we're merely left with the shoulder-shruggingly sad recognition that we're going to endure 2 more, probably 3 more, years of this loser smearing more incompetence all over this program. No one reasonable expects him fired before then, but let's not act like we owe him a goddamned thing beyond that simple understanding of reality. And if he does prove what we've seen so far wrong, yeehaw. I view sarvanaash finding a sense of lasting, contented peace to be a more probably scenario.

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2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

My view is that the one thing we should have gotten really good at as fans over the last 12 years is how to spot a loser. You're failing that test with this post and you're a better poster than that. Sarkisian is a loser. That's not speculative. He's a loser this season with a roster that shouldn't have gone 5-7. They shouldn't have lost to Kansas. They should have beaten OU, OSU, and Baylor. They choked those games. That wasn't a shitty culture doing that. That was shitty coaching managing leads very poorly. I don't even understand how this narrative that "it's bad players and a shitty culture" has taken root over the past month. Can those two things be correct? Fine. I'm not going to die on the "the players are all amazing!" hill, but that shit is far outweighed by what we witnessed from the staff. 

Need other proof points besides record and second half depantsings and losing to fucking Kansas? I challenge you or anyone else here to credibly claim that the players got better this season as the year wore on. Please, try to do it. Texas got fucking worse. That's coaching. If guys quit on you, put in guys that didn't. If the whole team quit on you, yeah, pack your fucking bags, loser. No, we kept seeing guys out there that had no business still being out there. 

Beyond all of that, the guy won 8 games once at Washington and 9 games with other people's talent at USC. Outside of that, he never won much, was ignominiously fired for being a drunkard in mid-season of year 2 of a tenure, and was fired as an OC in the NFL while taking the offense backwards from what he inherited. 

He's simply a member of a long line of coaches who have looked great as a coach under Saban who then go elsewhere and it's a mixed bag. 

There is nothing that Seven Loss Steve has done in the greater context of his career to merit anyone's benefit of the doubt here. As such, we're merely left with the shoulder-shruggingly sad recognition that we're going to endure 2 more, probably 3 more, years of this loser smearing more incompetence all over this program. No one reasonable expects him fired before then, but let's not act like we owe him a goddamned thing beyond that simple understanding of reality. And if he does prove what we've seen so far wrong, yeehaw. I view sarvanaash finding a sense of lasting, contented peace to be a more probably scenario.

I think you are a loser.

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1 minute ago, RGBIII said:

A 4-5 year "rebuild" is total bullshit. Not like we are tanking for draft picks, the portal allows player movement more freely than ever before in CFB. And this shit is going to take 4 years to rebuild? The 2022 class will be seniors when we are done "rebuilding"? Thats horse shit excuses and generally unacceptable. If Urban Meyer or someone with that pedigree was introduced as our HC tomorrow we likely close on every major recruitment left in the balance and aggy shits down their leg for the next century per usual. When I told my aggy buddies that we hired Sark, the only thing they said was "Thank fucking God", think that opinion has changed? I understand why we havent pulled the plug on sark already but my god, at this point we are just biding time and waiting and praying that he doesnt scorched fucking earth this roster again like the last two fucking guys did, and boy if he doesnt make serious changes this offseason we ALL fucking know what next year and the one after looks like

Pretty much this, Sark gets is on track next season (7-8 wins) and looks better in every aspect next season with "his players" or this isn't happening. You don't need multi-year rebuilds and the commits we do have are early contributor types. 

One thing we heard MANY times on the podcast was the freshman came in unprepared in the TE room. Gunnar Helm came in the most prepared because he took it very seriously - not to say the other guys don't now take it serious, but it was obvious from that conversation that Gunnar thought he was going to have to work harder than everyone to see playing time because of the recruiting rankings etc. We saw that pay off in immediate playing time and mixing it up with the 1's on a frequent basis for a freshman. 

This '22 class is filled with Gunnar Helms - there isn't a single guy that they are taking that isn't coming in ready to compete day 1 and come in having worked out the entire offseason so they can either early enroll or get started with the playbook learning process. The biggest thing that I took away now that we have done all the interviews (which if you haven't listened to as a burnt end, go listen to) is that the young guys are taking this very seriously now and want to do everything they can in the offseason to come into next season absolutely ready. 

It only takes 1 class/infusion of 30+ guys with that mentality to change the culture in a locker room. People who think Juan Davis and Ja'Tavion Sanders aren't more dynamic than Jared and Cade (not a knock) must not have eyes. Their issue was they didn't know how to play college football mentally. 

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12 minutes ago, TriStone said:

Yes it is, and it's just awesome that our own fans dutifully assist in the negative recruiting.  Nevertheless, it doesn't change the fact that firing a head coach after one season is a retarded suggestion.

I think Steven is doing a stellar job negative recruiting on his own

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2 minutes ago, immamac said:

Pretty much this, Sark gets is on track next season (7-8 wins) and looks better in every aspect next season with "his players" or this isn't happening. You don't need multi-year rebuilds and the commits we do have are early contributor types. 

One thing we heard MANY times on the podcast was the freshman came in unprepared in the TE room. Gunnar Helm came in the most prepared because he took it very seriously - not to say the other guys don't now take it serious, but it was obvious from that conversation that Gunnar thought he was going to have to work harder than everyone to see playing time because of the recruiting rankings etc. We saw that pay off in immediate playing time and mixing it up with the 1's on a frequent basis for a freshman. 

This '22 class is filled with Gunnar Helms - there isn't a single guy that they are taking that isn't coming in ready to compete day 1 and come in having worked out the entire offseason so they can either early enroll or get started with the playbook learning process. The biggest thing that I took away now that we have done all the interviews (which if you haven't listened to as a burnt end, go listen to) is that the young guys are taking this very seriously now and want to do everything they can in the offseason to come into next season absolutely ready. 

It only takes 1 class/infusion of 30+ guys with that mentality to change the culture in a locker room. People who think Juan Davis and Ja'Tavion Sanders aren't more dynamic than Jared and Cade (not a knock) must not have eyes. Their issue was they didn't know how to play college football mentally. 

I'm going read this post over and over all day. It makes me feel half-assed good.

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42 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

You'll need a church as well.

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3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I view sarvanaash finding a sense of lasting, contented peace to be a more probably scenario.

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5 minutes ago, immamac said:

Pretty much this, Sark gets is on track next season (7-8 wins) and looks better in every aspect next season with "his players" or this isn't happening. You don't need multi-year rebuilds and the commits we do have are early contributor types. 

One thing we heard MANY times on the podcast was the freshman came in unprepared in the TE room. Gunnar Helm came in the most prepared because he took it very seriously - not to say the other guys don't now take it serious, but it was obvious from that conversation that Gunnar thought he was going to have to work harder than everyone to see playing time because of the recruiting rankings etc. We saw that pay off in immediate playing time and mixing it up with the 1's on a frequent basis for a freshman. 

This '22 class is filled with Gunnar Helms - there isn't a single guy that they are taking that isn't coming in ready to compete day 1 and come in having worked out the entire offseason so they can either early enroll or get started with the playbook learning process. The biggest thing that I took away now that we have done all the interviews (which if you haven't listened to as a burnt end, go listen to) is that the young guys are taking this very seriously now and want to do everything they can in the offseason to come into next season absolutely ready. 

It only takes 1 class/infusion of 30+ guys with that mentality to change the culture in a locker room. People who think Juan Davis and Ja'Tavion Sanders aren't more dynamic than Jared and Cade (not a knock) must not have eyes. Their issue was they didn't know how to play college football mentally. 

If Sark doesn’t have a major jump in results from year 1 to 2 he won’t be the guy, that’s a fact. Most, if not all great coaches make huge jumps from that year

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8 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

A 4-5 year "rebuild" is total bullshit. Not like we are tanking for draft picks, the portal allows player movement more freely than ever before in CFB. And this shit is going to take 4 years to rebuild? The 2022 class will be seniors when we are done "rebuilding"? Thats horse shit excuses and generally unacceptable. If Urban Meyer or someone with that pedigree was introduced as our HC tomorrow we likely close on every major recruitment left in the balance and aggy shits down their leg for the next century per usual. When I told my aggy buddies that we hired Sark, the only thing they said was "Thank fucking God", think that opinion has changed? I understand why we havent pulled the plug on sark already but my god, at this point we are just biding time and waiting and praying that he doesnt scorched fucking earth this roster again like the last two fucking guys did, and boy if he doesnt make serious changes this offseason we ALL fucking know what next year and the one after looks like

What makes the premise of needing "4-5 years" for a college football "rebuild" at a blue blood more laughable is the simple reality that good to great coaches turn around programs in 2 years regularly. Stoops, Saban (twice), Meyer (3 times), Peterson, Smart, Harbaugh, on and on. Folks can whine that some of those guys didn't get to the title game in that period, but they all had big winning seasons by year 2 after inheriting programs from losers.

Kelly inherited Weis' shitshow at ND and won 8, then 8, and then played for the NT. If you add the third year, you wind up with damned near any coach that is going to get it done at a good program actually getting it done. I guess Swinney at Clemson is a clear exception that others will cling to as the alternative, but that is not the norm.

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8 minutes ago, immamac said:

Pretty much this, Sark gets is on track next season (7-8 wins) and looks better in every aspect next season with "his players" or this isn't happening. You don't need multi-year rebuilds and the commits we do have are early contributor types. 

One thing we heard MANY times on the podcast was the freshman came in unprepared in the TE room. Gunnar Helm came in the most prepared because he took it very seriously - not to say the other guys don't now take it serious, but it was obvious from that conversation that Gunnar thought he was going to have to work harder than everyone to see playing time because of the recruiting rankings etc. We saw that pay off in immediate playing time and mixing it up with the 1's on a frequent basis for a freshman. 

This '22 class is filled with Gunnar Helms - there isn't a single guy that they are taking that isn't coming in ready to compete day 1 and come in having worked out the entire offseason so they can either early enroll or get started with the playbook learning process. The biggest thing that I took away now that we have done all the interviews (which if you haven't listened to as a burnt end, go listen to) is that the young guys are taking this very seriously now and want to do everything they can in the offseason to come into next season absolutely ready. 

It only takes 1 class/infusion of 30+ guys with that mentality to change the culture in a locker room. People who think Juan Davis and Ja'Tavion Sanders aren't more dynamic than Jared and Cade (not a knock) must not have eyes. Their issue was they didn't know how to play college football mentally. 

I applaud Immamac. You Sir, are not a whiny pussy

Edited December 3, 2021 by Codaxx

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1 hour ago, TriStone said:

This might be the single most intelligent suggestion I've seen in any recruiting thread since Mack was pushed out.  Sage fucking wisdom here.

When you think about it, this is one of the most depressing statements made on a message board in every way, shape, and form. 

1 hour ago, victory88 said:

Mostly everyone is right here.  I do want to point out that I firmly blame this athletic department and the people in charge.   I will continue to repeat myself that until this athletic department prioritizes winning over revenue, we will always suck.  
 

We’re supposed to be the big swinging dick right?  When was the last time we lured in a good coach or coordinator?  You just watched two shit shows in LSU and USC show us how it’s done.  We threw a market value offer that every coach is now getting to Meyer and got turned down publicly.  Then privately we got turned down by every other coach until we resorted to hiring a fucking twice failed recovering addict that hasn’t won shit at a discount price.  This program has fallen so far.  Look at the south end zone.  It sucks.  Everything this athletic department tries to do, fucks this program worse.  You think they’ve helped what so ever with NIL?  Our AD continuous gets in the way of this program being successful.  
 

CDC needs to be in charge of all other sports and we need to bring in a guy that knows football.  Why the fuck so you think Meyer wanted his own football AD that wasn’t CDC? Look at aggy, they fucking hired the Ole Miss AD after they got caught cheating.  They know what they need to do to become successful.  Make fun of that midget all you want, but he’s putting together a fucking badass class and they’re about to land two more 5 stars.  They’ve got an elite DC that’s developing talent and they are pushing the narrative that they are about to take Bama’s spot as the top dog and their win against them is making these recruits buy in along with the cash they are dropping.

I’m just so sick of watching this AD drag this program down.  After realignment 10 years ago, they could have positioned our program to be better, instead they chased the fucking dollars with LHN.  They stayed in a dying conference.  They let our facilities become outdated and then reconstructed our end zone into a pathetic empty uterus.  We play a shit schedule, with shitty coaches, with a shitty game day atmosphere, with entitled players that suck outside of two players.  I’m a fucking die hard Longhorn fan of 20 years and I’ve never been so disappointed.  Looking at our recruiting is a direct reflection of what the best players and even mediocre players think of us, we suck.  And now we are hoping to have some shitty players from the portal help us fix this bc they cannot sell anything worth shit to good high school recruits.  
 

Rant over, TLDR, fuck everything. 

The south end zone is awesome, sir. I mean it is awesome. 

[Bevo14 8,311]

15 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

My view is that the one thing we should have gotten really good at as fans over the last 12 years is how to spot a loser. You're failing that test with this post and you're a better poster than that. Sarkisian is a loser. That's not speculative. He's a loser this season with a roster that shouldn't have gone 5-7. They shouldn't have lost to Kansas. They should have beaten OU, OSU, and Baylor. They choked those games. That wasn't a shitty culture doing that. That was shitty coaching managing leads very poorly. I don't even understand how this narrative that "it's bad players and a shitty culture" has taken root over the past month. Can those two things be correct? Fine. I'm not going to die on the "the players are all amazing!" hill, but that shit is far outweighed by what we witnessed from the staff. 

Need other proof points besides record and second half depantsings and losing to fucking Kansas? I challenge you or anyone else here to credibly claim that the players got better this season as the year wore on. Please, try to do it. Texas got fucking worse. That's coaching. If guys quit on you, put in guys that didn't. If the whole team quit on you, yeah, pack your fucking bags, loser. No, we kept seeing guys out there that had no business still being out there. 

Beyond all of that, the guy won 8 games once at Washington and 9 games with other people's talent at USC. Outside of that, he never won much, was ignominiously fired for being a drunkard in mid-season of year 2 of a tenure, and was fired as an OC in the NFL while taking the offense backwards from what he inherited. 

He's simply a member of a long line of coaches who have looked great as a coach under Saban who then go elsewhere and it's a mixed bag. 

There is nothing that Seven Loss Steve has done in the greater context of his career to merit anyone's benefit of the doubt here. As such, we're merely left with the shoulder-shruggingly sad recognition that we're going to endure 2 more, probably 3 more, years of this loser smearing more incompetence all over this program. No one reasonable expects him fired before then, but let's not act like we owe him a goddamned thing beyond that simple understanding of reality. And if he does prove what we've seen so far wrong, yeehaw. I view sarvanaash finding a sense of lasting, contented peace to be a more probably scenario.

Most of this is true. Mensa's obnoxious ass would've probably won 7 or 8 games. I also wouldn't have to listen to my dumbass brother, the last Mensa apologist on the planet, drone on about how Mensa was wronged thanks to fuckin Sark. If this moron doesn't hire Gary Patterson or someone equivalent as DC, I'm going to expect 7 losses again. I don't think he will survive another shitty season though.

The tools are at Sark's disposal to turn this around. The transfer portal is a fuckin gift. He has two huge pieces to build his offense around (Worthy and Bijan). If he has any balls he will do what needs to be done.

Edited December 3, 2021 by Bevo14

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Never thought sandy vaginas would see us to 1000, but here we are…

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8 minutes ago, MoJames said:

I think you are a loser.

Fortunately for you then, I am not the Head Coach at the University of Texas.

[Codaxx 5,739]

7 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

Most of this is true. Mensa's obnoxious ass would've probably won 7 or 8 games. I also wouldn't have to listen to my dumbass brother, the last Mensa apologist on the planet, drone on about how he was right thanks to fuckin Sark. If this moron doesn't hire Gary Patterson or someone equivalent as DC, I'm going to expect 7 losses again. I don't think he will survive another shitty season though.

I dont think Mensa does much better. Imagine running Card and Casey out in that QB battering ram of a system. You might have been taking snaps at QB by game 5. keep in mind Worthy is not at Texas and Bijan is splitting carries. 

Edited December 3, 2021 by Codaxx

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I think the only reason we give our coaches at least 4 years is because of the large buyouts. It has nothing to do with us wanting to look fair to the outside world. No matter how much money our Athletics Department makes, we are stingy when it comes to spending on coaches. We much rather spend the money on Belmont. 

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2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I think Mensa does much better. Imagine running Card and Casey out in that QB battering ram of a system. You might have been taking snaps at QB by game 5

You are being facetious but this isn't entirely untrue. One of the reasons Casey did so well early is because he was scrambling and getting up field on 3rd downs. He stopped doing that as often and hence our drives started to stall out. Sark was asking them to do things they weren't built to do mentally by sticking in their progressions and trying to throw first, use legs second. The way these guys were geared was "throw the ball if you see an easy throw and plan to run every play" which is totally different and I'd imagine a very difficult transition for both players. 

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8 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Kelly inherited Weis' shitshow at ND and won 8, then 8, and then played for the NT. If you add the third year, you wind up with damned near any coach that is going to get it done at a good program actually getting it done. I guess Swinney at Clemson is a clear exception that others will cling to as the alternative, but that is not the norm.

Yeah that Kelly 2016 season record for ND of 4-8 was quite impressive... 😋

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5 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Fortunately for you then, I am not the Head Coach at the University of Texas.

Correct, you're the former offensive coordinator. And as our former OC you also coached a National Championship team (even if Vince had to bail you out), so that was a cheap shot imo

[Tex-19 2,872]

4 minutes ago, immamac said:

Pretty much this, Sark gets is on track next season (7-8 wins) and looks better in every aspect next season with "his players" or this isn't happening. You don't need multi-year rebuilds and the commits we do have are early contributor types. 

One thing we heard MANY times on the podcast was the freshman came in unprepared in the TE room. Gunnar Helm came in the most prepared because he took it very seriously - not to say the other guys don't now take it serious, but it was obvious from that conversation that Gunnar thought he was going to have to work harder than everyone to see playing time because of the recruiting rankings etc. We saw that pay off in immediate playing time and mixing it up with the 1's on a frequent basis for a freshman. 

This '22 class is filled with Gunnar Helms - there isn't a single guy that they are taking that isn't coming in ready to compete day 1 and come in having worked out the entire offseason so they can either early enroll or get started with the playbook learning process. The biggest thing that I took away now that we have done all the interviews (which if you haven't listened to as a burnt end, go listen to) is that the young guys are taking this very seriously now and want to do everything they can in the offseason to come into next season absolutely ready. 

It only takes 1 class/infusion of 30+ guys with that mentality to change the culture in a locker room. People who think Juan Davis and Ja'Tavion Sanders aren't more dynamic than Jared and Cade (not a knock) must not have eyes. Their issue was they didn't know how to play college football mentally. 

Good post. It may or may not happen but getting 8 wins and ramping up NIL should solve a lot on the recruiting front. The staff seems serious about bringing in the right attitudes so as long as they can actually coach, there's still a very viable path to getting back on track. On the other hand, if they can't get 8 wins next year in a weakened Big 12, yikes.

Speaking of that one class, not only do the 22's seem to have a great mentality, so do the 21s. Guys like Murphy, X, Connor, etc seem like dawgs and still very bought in.

Side note - I can't wait to see JT Sanders unleashed. I hope he's working hard (and doesn't portal)

[MoJames 8,244]

13 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Fortunately for you then, I am not the Head Coach at the University of Texas.

Give it time.

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The ball is in Gary Patterson’s court. The legendary Horned Frogs coach definitely wants to stay involved in football, and best we can can tell he’s greatly wanted by Texas. We know that because IT has heard his job and title at Texas would be whatever he wanted it to be. We’ve heard a range from analyst to head coach of the defense.

Interest is mutual between Patterson and Texas, and UT seems to be best positioned for his services, though we have heard Penn State has reached out to Patterson. There’s also one other scenario he’s keeping an eye on, though we don’t want to bring that to light. We don’t think that scenario is likely to play out and will be happy to share details after the fact.

At this time, the people we talk to think Patterson will join the program in some form or fashion. There’s no vacancy at DC but one doesn’t need to be too imaginative to see how he and Pete Kwiatkowski could co-exist if Patterson wanted an on-field role.

A move as an analyst would fall pretty flat and would set the table for the following potential scenario: PK comes out early next season and struggles leading to termination or demotion, GP is then elevated, but UT wasted an entire off-season. We’re not saying that will happen, so don’t assume the worst, but it’s something to consider.

Hopefully we get resolution soon. If he’s going to join the program it should be announced ahead of the games tomorrow.

We’ll see how this crazy storyline in the crazy 2021 carousel plays out.

NIL

We’ve wondered if Grand NIL Plan No 2 would be released ahead of NSD. We’re now confident it will be announced in time for the coaches to use as a selling point. That doesn’t mean it will make an immediate impact, but if it doesn’t, take the time to contemplate why.

Going forward, this program will be very big for the program and should assist in enticing certain players out of the portal at a time when Texas needs those certain players.

Portal

As we’ve long reported, Texas is going to be very active in the portal. That goes for exports as much as imports. So far this week, Texas lost WR Al’Vonte Woodard, LB Dele Adeoye, and LB Marcus Tillman. This is on the heels of losing DB Tyler Owens and LB Terrence Cooks. IT expects UT to lose another LB in the portal. Overall, don’t be surprised if upwards of 10 more players depart the program.

As far as imports go, IT expects Texas to land a player next week. That doesn’t count the UNLV linebacker below who Texas has a strong chance with.

As far as returnees go: At this time IT feels CB D’Shawn Jamison, DB Anthony Cook, and DL Keondre Coburn will return. LB DeMarvion Overshown is leaning towards likely. NIL should help with him. DB BJ Foster is undecided but likely to depart.

Recruiting Matters

LB Jacoby Windmon, UNLV via New Orleans (LA) - 2022: After hitting the portal on November 28th, the 6-foot-2, 230-pound linebacker originally from picked up a slew of offers including Minnesota, Iowa State, South Florida, UTSA, and UH. Texas extended an offer this week and are trying to get Windmon on campus next weekend. UT has a tie here as defensive analyst Cordae Hankton was Windmon’s defensive coordinator in 2018 at John Ehret High School (Marrero, LA).

Windmon has the look of not only an immediate starter but also potential difference maker. Last season he tallied 73 solos (!), 46 assists, 11.5 tackles for loss, and 6.5 sacks. UNLV is a lesser level of competition, but those numbers are similar to Malik Jefferson’s junior year and Reuben Foster’s senior year.

LB Kobie McKinzie, Cooper (Lubbock, TX): The 6-foot-2, 245-pound On3 consensus four-star is trending Texas right now, as the staff will see him play tonight before hosting the former OU commit on an official visit this weekend. Texas Tech is getting involved as well, as the new staff has some familiarity with McKinzie's family and the area. Don't be shocked if the west Texas linebacker makes a decision at the end of this weekend.

CB Denver Harris, Houston (Texas) North Shore: The Texas staff, namely Jeff Banks and Terry Joseph, are still pushing hard and actively recruiting Denver today. Steve Sarkisian still has his in-home visit to go. IT’s stance is anything can still happen in this one, though we‘re fading Alabama as a likely option. We’ve been fading Bama for a while. Corey Raymond was by North Shore recently. You can rest assured Brian Kelly will get involved, or, git eeenvolved, as he now pronounces it. Texas is effectively in yet another top-3 but it’s hard to have confidence. That doesn’t mean Texas can’t win it late, but A&M is recruiting successfully and LSU has stability at Denver’s position.

OT Kelvin Banks, Humble (Texas) Summer Creek: Texas assistants Kyle Flood and Jeff Banks attended Summer Creek practice and had an in-home visit with the Oregon verbal and On3 Consensus 5-star tackle Thursday. Different members of the Texas staff have had multiple communications with Banks and his circle this week. Texas A&M was scheduled to attend Summer creek practice Tuesday, but they did not. That does not mean the Aggies have given up on the 6-foot-5, 300-pound mauler. Why is Texas and Texas A&M staying engaged in this recruitment? Because a parent of Banks has a medical issue that could very well keep the parent from being able to travel. Does that mean Banks for sure flips? No, but it’s the reason for serious consideration.

IOL Kam Dewberry, Humble (Texas) Atascocita: Texas assistants Kyle Flood and Jeff Banks made an in-home with the On3 Consensus four-star lineman Thursday night. Longhorns head coach Steve Sarkisian is saving his in-home visit for next week ahead of Dewberry’s December 15 scheduled decision. Texas A&M head coach Jimbo Fisher and staff made an in-home earlier in the week. According to a source close to Dewberry, Fisher made a push for Dewberry to not wait until the 15th to commit, if he was going to Texas A&M. Fisher pushed Dewberry to have his own day, similar to Evan Stewart, and not wait until signing day when there are a lot of announcements. Both Texas and Texas A&M have felt positive about their chances in the last few days. Dewberry dropped his final three of Texas, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma on Thursday. This decision continues to trend to Longhorns vs. Aggies.

Should the Longhorns make a move on a couple of O-line prospects late, Everman’s Seth Martin (6-3.5, 285) and Azle’s Jakson LaHue (6-5, 290) would likely be where an offer would come from. Texas assistant coach and area recruiter Andre Coleman was by both schools to chat with Martin and LaHue earlier this week.

Martin, a former TCU verbal, made an official visit to Texas Tech in November. Red Raiders head coach Joey McGuire made an in-home visit with the athletic prospect late this week. Martin is leaning to not signing until February to see what shakes out with potential options.

LaHue has an official visit to Mississippi State scheduled this weekend, and is leaving the December 10 weekend open to visit either Virginia Tech, or possibly Texas. The Hokies verbal is waiting to see if offensive line coach Vance Vice is retained by the new head coach.

Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian and members of the Longhorns staff made an in-home visit with On3 Consensus four-star wide receiver Shazz Preston (Saint James, La.) this week. Preston made an official visit to Texas in June, and the Longhorns have been considered to be trailing Alabama, LSU and Georgia in recent weeks. Preston has an official visit scheduled to Alabama December 10. As of 7am Friday, there is not a visit scheduled anywhere this weekend. That is subject to change, obviously.

[Hiphopopotamos 20,870]

IT (Nahlin) says that Texas has offered Gary Patterson any title he wants up to 'Head Coach of the Defense'.  IT thinks if Gary is going to join it will be announced before tomorrow's games.

 

*BO&W's Ctrl-C / Ctrl-V game is too fast.

Edited December 3, 2021 by Hiphopopotamos

[Codaxx 5,739]

4 minutes ago, immamac said:

You are being facetious but this isn't entirely untrue. One of the reasons Casey did so well early is because he was scrambling and getting up field on 3rd downs. He stopped doing that as often and hence our drives started to stall out. Sark was asking them to do things they weren't built to do mentally by sticking in their progressions and trying to throw first, use legs second. The way these guys were geared was "throw the ball if you see an easy throw and plan to run every play" which is totally different and I'd imagine a very difficult transition for both players. 

He did that in 1 game, Arkansas. The issue is I think the offense looks like Sam's freshman year. Imagine the WR room without Worthy. Bijan is splitting carries, because that is what Mensa does. Like I said Casey's success was driven by the fact that he played really shitty defenses and was able to throw underneath and put up big numbers. 

[BurntOrange&White 39,931]

Head coach of defense, lol

[BurntOrange&White 39,931]

Just now, Hiphopopotamos said:

IT (Nahlin) says that Texas has offered Gary Patterson any title he wants up to 'Head Coach of the Defense'.  IT thinks if Gary is going to join it will be announced before tomorrow's games.

Lmao I’m sorry but if that is the title he chooses and what he will be then fire Steve and fire Pk

[Hiphopopotamos 20,870]

Official:

 

[TriStone 1,724]

22 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

When you think about it, this is one of the most depressing statements made on a message board in every way, shape, and form. 

My praise might have been a tad profuse, but your post was to me a reasonable statement in what has otherwise been a torrent of shitty takes and wailing, woe-is-me crybaby bullshit.

 

Edited December 3, 2021 by TriStone

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,234]

The Dewberry recruitment still feels different than the others. I'm still of the feeling we are where he has wanted to go, wants to go and will sign with on Dec 15th.

This is Floods "Malik" moment IMO.

Edited December 3, 2021 by MonkeyDoughnut

[Ricky Butler 2,718]

This thread is like shadow boxing for the heavy weight title in your garage.

[Harrison Stafford 3,335]

7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Head coach of defense, lol

Grand Poobah of defense

[UncleBuck 6,454]

Just now, Harrison Stafford said:

Grand Poobah of defense

Defensive High Septon

[BurntOrange&White 39,931]

1 minute ago, Harrison Stafford said:

Grand Poobah of defense

The Sultan of Sweat

[SydneyCarton 48,099]

4 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

The Dewberry recruitment still feels different than the others. I'm still of the feeling we are where he has wanted to go, wants to go and will sign with on Dec 15th.

This is Floods "Malik" moment IMO.

[texifornia 56,949]

9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Humidor:

 

By: Eric, Gerry, and Justin

Gary Patterson

The ball is in Gary Patterson’s court. The legendary Horned Frogs coach definitely wants to stay involved in football, and best we can can tell he’s greatly wanted by Texas. We know that because IT has heard his job and title at Texas would be whatever he wanted it to be. We’ve heard a range from analyst to head coach of the defense.

Interest is mutual between Patterson and Texas, and UT seems to be best positioned for his services, though we have heard Penn State has reached out to Patterson. There’s also one other scenario he’s keeping an eye on, though we don’t want to bring that to light. We don’t think that scenario is likely to play out and will be happy to share details after the fact.

At this time, the people we talk to think Patterson will join the program in some form or fashion. There’s no vacancy at DC but one doesn’t need to be too imaginative to see how he and Pete Kwiatkowski could co-exist if Patterson wanted an on-field role.

A move as an analyst would fall pretty flat and would set the table for the following potential scenario: PK comes out early next season and struggles leading to termination or demotion, GP is then elevated, but UT wasted an entire off-season. We’re not saying that will happen, so don’t assume the worst, but it’s something to consider.

Hopefully we get resolution soon. If he’s going to join the program it should be announced ahead of the games tomorrow.

We’ll see how this crazy storyline in the crazy 2021 carousel plays out.

NIL

We’ve wondered if Grand NIL Plan No 2 would be released ahead of NSD. We’re now confident it will be announced in time for the coaches to use as a selling point. That doesn’t mean it will make an immediate impact, but if it doesn’t, take the time to contemplate why.

Going forward, this program will be very big for the program and should assist in enticing certain players out of the portal at a time when Texas needs those certain players.

Portal

As we’ve long reported, Texas is going to be very active in the portal. That goes for exports as much as imports. So far this week, Texas lost WR Al’Vonte Woodard, LB Dele Adeoye, and LB Marcus Tillman. This is on the heels of losing DB Tyler Owens and LB Terrence Cooks. IT expects UT to lose another LB in the portal. Overall, don’t be surprised if upwards of 10 more players depart the program.

As far as imports go, IT expects Texas to land a player next week. That doesn’t count the UNLV linebacker below who Texas has a strong chance with.

As far as returnees go: At this time IT feels CB D’Shawn Jamison, DB Anthony Cook, and DL Keondre Coburn will return. LB DeMarvion Overshown is leaning towards likely. NIL should help with him. DB BJ Foster is undecided but likely to depart.

Recruiting Matters

LB Jacoby Windmon, UNLV via New Orleans (LA) - 2022: After hitting the portal on November 28th, the 6-foot-2, 230-pound linebacker originally from picked up a slew of offers including Minnesota, Iowa State, South Florida, UTSA, and UH. Texas extended an offer this week and are trying to get Windmon on campus next weekend. UT has a tie here as defensive analyst Cordae Hankton was Windmon’s defensive coordinator in 2018 at John Ehret High School (Marrero, LA).

Windmon has the look of not only an immediate starter but also potential difference maker. Last season he tallied 73 solos (!), 46 assists, 11.5 tackles for loss, and 6.5 sacks. UNLV is a lesser level of competition, but those numbers are similar to Malik Jefferson’s junior year and Reuben Foster’s senior year.

LB Kobie McKinzie, Cooper (Lubbock, TX): The 6-foot-2, 245-pound On3 consensus four-star is trending Texas right now, as the staff will see him play tonight before hosting the former OU commit on an official visit this weekend. Texas Tech is getting involved as well, as the new staff has some familiarity with McKinzie's family and the area. Don't be shocked if the west Texas linebacker makes a decision at the end of this weekend.

CB Denver Harris, Houston (Texas) North Shore: The Texas staff, namely Jeff Banks and Terry Joseph, are still pushing hard and actively recruiting Denver today. Steve Sarkisian still has his in-home visit to go. IT’s stance is anything can still happen in this one, though we‘re fading Alabama as a likely option. We’ve been fading Bama for a while. Corey Raymond was by North Shore recently. You can rest assured Brian Kelly will get involved, or, git eeenvolved, as he now pronounces it. Texas is effectively in yet another top-3 but it’s hard to have confidence. That doesn’t mean Texas can’t win it late, but A&M is recruiting successfully and LSU has stability at Denver’s position.

OT Kelvin Banks, Humble (Texas) Summer Creek: Texas assistants Kyle Flood and Jeff Banks attended Summer Creek practice and had an in-home visit with the Oregon verbal and On3 Consensus 5-star tackle Thursday. Different members of the Texas staff have had multiple communications with Banks and his circle this week. Texas A&M was scheduled to attend Summer creek practice Tuesday, but they did not. That does not mean the Aggies have given up on the 6-foot-5, 300-pound mauler. Why is Texas and Texas A&M staying engaged in this recruitment? Because a parent of Banks has a medical issue that could very well keep the parent from being able to travel. Does that mean Banks for sure flips? No, but it’s the reason for serious consideration.

IOL Kam Dewberry, Humble (Texas) Atascocita: Texas assistants Kyle Flood and Jeff Banks made an in-home with the On3 Consensus four-star lineman Thursday night. Longhorns head coach Steve Sarkisian is saving his in-home visit for next week ahead of Dewberry’s December 15 scheduled decision. Texas A&M head coach Jimbo Fisher and staff made an in-home earlier in the week. According to a source close to Dewberry, Fisher made a push for Dewberry to not wait until the 15th to commit, if he was going to Texas A&M. Fisher pushed Dewberry to have his own day, similar to Evan Stewart, and not wait until signing day when there are a lot of announcements. Both Texas and Texas A&M have felt positive about their chances in the last few days. Dewberry dropped his final three of Texas, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma on Thursday. This decision continues to trend to Longhorns vs. Aggies.

Should the Longhorns make a move on a couple of O-line prospects late, Everman’s Seth Martin (6-3.5, 285) and Azle’s Jakson LaHue (6-5, 290) would likely be where an offer would come from. Texas assistant coach and area recruiter Andre Coleman was by both schools to chat with Martin and LaHue earlier this week.

Martin, a former TCU verbal, made an official visit to Texas Tech in November. Red Raiders head coach Joey McGuire made an in-home visit with the athletic prospect late this week. Martin is leaning to not signing until February to see what shakes out with potential options.

LaHue has an official visit to Mississippi State scheduled this weekend, and is leaving the December 10 weekend open to visit either Virginia Tech, or possibly Texas. The Hokies verbal is waiting to see if offensive line coach Vance Vice is retained by the new head coach.

Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian and members of the Longhorns staff made an in-home visit with On3 Consensus four-star wide receiver Shazz Preston (Saint James, La.) this week. Preston made an official visit to Texas in June, and the Longhorns have been considered to be trailing Alabama, LSU and Georgia in recent weeks. Preston has an official visit scheduled to Alabama December 10. As of 7am Friday, there is not a visit scheduled anywhere this weekend. That is subject to change, obviously.

We sent Coleman to talk to our OL backup plans? Time for the two Techs to put them in the calculator.

[Fondren & Main 6,715]

If PK is out and GP is in then get rid of Choate and hire Ed O.

[Hookem2147 21,241]

Jimbo pressuring Dewberry to commit is hilarious and so predictable. 

[BurntOrange&White 39,931]

Just now, Fondren & Main said:

If PK is out and GP is in then get rid of Choate and hire Ed O.

Tosh! Need closers. 

[UncleBuck 6,454]

Just now, Fondren & Main said:

If PK is out and GP is in then get rid of Choate and hire Ed O.

I guess you missed what Ed O said: "back boo la reaux spend time with labala kids grof."

[Hiphopopotamos 20,870]

Just now, Fondren & Main said:

If PK is out and GP is in then get rid of Choate and hire Ed O.

I'll be shocked if Ed O coaches again.  He's living the good life down in South Florida picking up single moms 30 years younger than him while LSU sends him checks.

He lived his dream and was there when LSU won a title.