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2 hours ago, Teryor said:

This was my favorite part: 

So IT dunked on Roach and Roach repeatedly just lied to his subs

I noticed that too. Roach explicitly stated that Campbell did not sign, a straight up lie. IT was evasive but never lied about it.

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4 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

It's so absurd that the staff has to play this game where they act surprised at Campbell's big "announcement" yet he's been part of the class for 6 weeks. 

I didn't read it as fake surprise - they hardly seemed to be playing tense - it was just a celebration that it was made official.

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It's so absurd that the staff has to play this game where they act surprised at Campbell's big "announcement" yet he's been part of the class for 6 weeks. 
Whatever it takes. When our o-line has been so bad for so long, Campbell asking Flood and Sark to dress up as clowns for nsd2 wouldnt be out of line.
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(Ian Boyd) Inside the gameplan: The 2022 O-line

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With the addition of Devon Campbell, Texas has put the finishing touches on what is probably the greatest O-line class in program history. Seven additions averaging 92.735 by On3’s rankings is a massive talent haul, even in today’s era of national recruiting. The Longhorns haven’t had a dominant line in league play in a long time, which is an easy point of differentiation between them and their rivals in Norman, who have dominated the league for most of its history.

Around 2002 with the hire of Kevin Wilson, Oklahoma transitioned from the pure Air Raid of Mike Leach and Mark Mangino to more of a spread run system. Since then, the Sooners have pretty regularly won the Big 12 while developing athletic linemen who went on to be drafted by the NFL. Meanwhile, since 2010 Texas has had just two linemen drafted: Connor Williams in 2018 and Sam Cosmi in 2021.

There’s more than one way to win football games, but superiority in the trenches is an obvious point of potential advantage for a blue blood program like Texas. Yet it’s not an advantage they’ve held in many seasons within the league. Their best units were probably the 2013 and 2018 units which combined effective run blocking with good tackles and pass protection. Those units were ironically made by adding lower ranked transfers Donald Hawkins and Calvin Anderson. This class marks a different approach for Texas.

Obviously the hope for the future is in having superiority due to the addition of all these recruits, but it generally takes a good while for freshman to find major roles on the offensive line. How is the line likely to shape up in 2022?

Strengths in 2022

By the end of the year the starting offensive line group went:

  • Christian Jones
  • Junior Angilau
  • Jake Majors
  • Tope Imade
  • Derek Kerstetter

This group proved pretty capable in the inside zone game preferred by Kyle Flood along with his predecessors under Tom Herman. Inside zone blocking is about controlling opponents and driving them off the line of scrimmage. With 6-foot-6, 340-pound Tope Imade and 6-foot-6, 319-pound Junior Angilau at guard and Majors setting them up with his combo blocks, the Longhorns were able to move people off the ball. They were also still effective at outside zone thanks to the unit’s mobility at tackle and center.

The other three main characters in the story of the 2021 line were Denzel Okafor, Andrej Karic, and Hayden Conner, two of which return and will likely become starters or have major roles.

The interior for 2022 is a little cleaner to project than the exterior. Angilau and Majors were good players in 2021 and should help establish an identity for the Texas offense in 2022. Hayden Conner was both one of the more talented linemen in 2021 as well as the Vitruvian man for Kyle Flood at 6-foot-5, 330 pounds. With his size and mobility it’s not hard for Conner to fix defensive linemen in his sights and then establish control and even drive them out of the picture. He was pretty effective in 2021 despite plainly being inexperienced on finding defenders and anticipating angles. He could make a leap in year two.

So the inside trio is likely to go:

  • Left guard: Junior Angilau, 6-foot-6, 320 pounds. Redshirt senior with 34 starts.
  • Center: Jake Majors, 6-foot-3, 310 pounds. Redshirt sophomore with 14 starts.
  • Right guard: Hayden Conner, 6-foot-5, 332 pounds. Sophomore with eight appearances as a freshman.

Tom Herman was never able to field an interior as big and effective as this one is likely to be in the inside zone game, nor did he have a running back like Bijan Robinson working behind it, although he recruited essentially all of the component parts.

In addition to being effective in the zone run game, as well as on “duo” and outside zone, this group is also a good fit for gap schemes. Junior Angilau is an effective puller and Conner looked comfortable on the move as well. Beyond the value of being able to run power and counter and attaching RPOs, this is important because of Steve Sarkisian’s love for running play-action with a pulling guard.

Texas didn’t have great tackle play in 2021, although Kerstetter was very solid in protection, and in the season’s definitive Red River Shootout game actually played an interior of Kerstetter-Majors-Angilau with Jones and Karic at tackle. They pulled Kerstetter on play-action to take a lot of their shots. Here’s how their 11 personnel protections look when they pull a guard:

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One edge gets protected by a combination of the offensive tackle and the tight end, the other is addressed by the pulling guard. The linebacker blitz is handled by the double team (they don’t climb to the linebacker but they will combo to him if he blitzes) and the running back. The running back will look at the linebacker to the side he’s pretending to run toward and block him if he blitzes.

Between the run fake and the help on the edges, it’s a good scheme for setting up a longer throw without exposing the line to getting whipped by a top pass rushing end. When they aren’t in this protection and have to protect the quarterback more honestly, Texas’ edges will likely be more athletic than in 2021. But as of the end of 2021, Texas didn’t have anyone on campus or signed with the skill of Kerstetter.

Kerstetter was a stalwart right tackle who often drew some of the tougher assignments in protection. Christian Jones was improved at left tackle over his performance in 2020 as the right tackle but still had to be shielded from 1-on-1s against top edge rushers in 2021.

Andrej Karic is unquestionably one of the biggest question marks in spring practice. At times in 2021 he was pushing Jones at left tackle and he started at right tackle against Oklahoma in the RRS with mixed results. He’s one of the quicker players on the line as well as one of the scrappiest. With a strong offseason in the weight room and some added technique in pass protection it’s easy to imagine him as one of the team’s five best linemen. If he’s in the starting lineup, it’s probably at tackle.

Majors, Jones, and Angilau are all highly experienced veterans (22 starts for Jones) while Conner and Karic got regular action in 2021, so one of the biggest strengths for the overall unit is continuity in the system. Texas has a prospective starting five here who have played a lot of football and could be counted on to know how to execute a winning plan in the fall.

Question marks for 2022

The starting five listed above, which would probably go…

  • Left tackle: Christian Jones
  • Left guard: Junior Angilau
  • Center: Jake Majors
  • Right guard: Hayden Conner
  • Right tackle: Andrej Karic

…certainly has some question marks despite the high experience level. The biggest one is pass protections which don’t pull a guard to handle an edge, such as the sort you call on 3rd-and-6 when it’s obvious you’re not running the football.

What will a healthier and now highly experienced Jones be capable of in his fifth year in the program? How much of a leap can Karic make and is it of a great enough distance to make up for his lack of length? Is a healthier Jaylen Garth capable of disrupting the status quo and taking a job at right or left tackle? Don’t forget, Garth was one of the most promising tackle prospects Tom Herman ever signed before a knee injury derailed him.

This group should run the ball effectively and likely better than they did in 2021 in their first year within the expansive new system. Can they protect better? When you factor in the loss of Kerstetter they have to improve at tackle just to tread water on the edge.

The next big question concerns the wave of recruits coming to remake this position room in dramatic fashion. How quickly can the incoming players find the field? Let’s take it player by player. Kelvin Banks is a different sort of athlete and prospect than anyone currently on campus at the position. Jones might have similar length and size, perhaps even athleticism, but he didn’t even learn to kick step until he reached Austin and Banks is coming in with some high level reps. Unfortunately for Texas, he’s not on campus until for spring.

Cameron Williams is another sort of prospect altogether, with even more size and length than Banks and a similar bank of game reps in protecting quarterbacks. He’ll need to work on conditioning though and is also a summer enrollee. Neto Umeozulu is the other obvious tackle prospect of the incoming group with length and athleticism of the sort Texas previously struggled to recruit along the line. Umeozulu looks a bit less comfortable going backwards than Banks or Williams and is also a summer guy.

Malik Agbo, Devon Campbell, and Cole Hutson could all potentially play tackle because of their size (Agbo) or athleticism (Campbell) but are all likely to end up inside because of the three names in the above paragraph. Of these three, only Campbell has any great experience at tackle (Agbo played tackle and guard) and he’s also arriving in the summer. Connor Robertson is an interior guy all the way, he slid inside at Westlake this season to accommodate T.J. Shanahan playing right tackle and could be at his best sliding inside one more spot to center. We’ll find out when he arrives… after spring practice.

Of this massive and considerably talented class, only Cole Hutson is an early enrollee and his combination of upside inside and lack of experience in protection means he won’t be replacing Derek Kerstetter in 2022.

The hype around this O-line class will have many fans and commentators speculating on which of these guys will start in 2021 but it’s very difficult to start as a true freshman on the line. The 2021 Texas A&M Aggies ended up working true freshmen Reuben Fatheree (tackle) and Bryce Foster (center) into their starting lineup without the benefit of spring practice and both were subsequently named freshman All-Americans. The Aggies also struggled to protect their quarterbacks or move the ball consistently on offense.

It’s particularly hard to crack a starting lineup when the returning offensive line is experienced. The two names most commonly assumed to be in the running for starting jobs are Kelvin Banks and Devon Campbell, who are the best incoming athletes. But both of them have some mountains to climb. Campbell’s mountains are adjusting to playing guard in a new system and then Hayden Conner. Banks’ mountains are protecting the quarterback against top Edge rushers, of which the Big 12 has a fair few, and Andrej Karic.

For Banks the challenge is also not just that he needs to be ready to play at a competitive level, but that he needs to be a plus pass protector to justify a spot on the field. Texas doesn’t need an athletic tackle who may make assignment mistakes at times and has to be protected from tough pass-rushers. They already have tackles who are liable to be average or above average in run blocking and assignment soundness while potentially needing help against the likes of Will McDonald IV or Felix Anudike-Uzomah.

At the very least, Texas’ two-deep is guaranteed to be loaded with freshmen, which means we’ll certainly see freshmen on the field either in rotation or due to injuries. If one of these blue chip additions does see the field, it’ll be due to realized upside (probably at tackle) as the prospective spring starting five looks capable of playing winning football. There aren’t quick fixes on the offensive line, but Texas is on a steady trajectory to play well in 2022 and field a playoff-caliber unit in the years to come.

Jeremy Crabtree: Alabama still has best class ever when comparing average ratings

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There’s been much discussion about where Texas A&M’s 2022 football recruiting class ranks against classes of the past. After a strong Signing Day haul, the Aggies officially were crowned as having the best recruiting class ever, according to the On3 Consensus Team Recruiting Ranking. The Signing Day surge included Five-Star Plus+ defensive lineman Shemar Stewart, the On3 Consensus No. 3 player in the country, and five-star safety Jacoby Mathews, the nation’s second-best safety and the top player in Louisiana.

Additionally, the Aggies might not be done, as they’re one of the favorites for Five-Star Plus+ defensive lineman Lebbeus Overton, who announced Thursday that he would reclassify to the 2022 recruiting class and cut his list of schools to five.

Looking at team rankings another way

But it’s also interesting to take a deeper dive into the On3 Consensus Team Recruiting Ranking and look at how all-time classes compare from an average star rating standpoint. The examination is also thought-provoking because of the way class rankings and overall scores are formulated. For example, On3 uses a rolling average of commits in its team rankings. That average number is 19 at this point.

With this model, there are no bonus points for having more commitments than other teams, and only small deductions occur when a team has fewer commitments than the rolling average. Unlike distribution (bell) curves that are used by others in the industry, this model doesn’t disproportionately weigh a team’s top three or four highest-rated commits and is a more accurate representation of an entire class.

A&M’s class 6th all-time in average rating

Indeed, some recruiting insiders argue that looking at the average star rating is just as good of a barometer as a class ranking. And when you look at classes from an average rating standpoint, the 2022 A&M class falls behind quite a few others, including Alabama’s 2022 crop.

  Team Year Avg. Rating 5-stars 4-stars Total commits
1 Alabama 2021 93.97 5 20 27
2 Alabama 2022 93.85 4 19 25
3 Ohio State 2021 93.67 7 15 23
4 USC 2010 93.65 5 9 16
5 USC 2018 93.6 5 10 17
6 Texas A&M 2022 93.41 8 20 29
7 Alabama 2015 93.07 5 16 23
8 Ohio State 2017 93.04 5 14 21
9 Georgia 2018 93.03 9 15 26
10 Ohio State 2018 93.02 4 20 26

The average rating for A&M is impacted greatly by the 29 players it signed in the class. The Aggies’ class definitely has quality and quantity, but just not quite the same average value as Alabama’s class, the 2021 classes at Alabama and Ohio State, and USC’s classes from 2010 and ’18.

Alabama 2021 class still on top in average rating

Before Signing Day, Alabama’s 2021 class held the title as the best in recruiting history. It still is when you look at things from the average rating standpoint. It was a class that was 93% blue chips and featured three Five-Star Plus+ recruits in offensive tackles JC Latham and Tommy Brockermeyer and EDGE Dallas Turner. Turner made an immediate impact, making three starts, and was selected to the All-SEC Freshman team by conference coaches. Latham saw action in 14 games as a true freshman.

Other five stars, such as cornerback Ga’Quincy “Kool-Aid” McKinstry and receiver Ja’Corey Brooks, played roles in helping the Crimson Tide reach the national championship game. It’s a class that is expected to keep the Tide in the title hunt for years to come. The Tide’s 2022 class is also special with four five-stars, such as EDGEs Jeremiah Alexander and Jihaad Campbell and quarterback Ty Simpson.

The same is true with Ohio State’s 2021 class that featured five-star propsects such as TreVeyon Henderson, who became only the fourth true freshman in school history to rush for 1,000 yards. Others in the class, like receivers Emeka Egbuka and Marvin Harrison Jr. and cornerback Denzel Burke, appear set for stardom in Columbus.

USC’s 2010 class featured five-star receiver Robert Woods, who went on to earn All-America honors and get drafted in the second round. The 2018 USC class included all-conference receiver Amon-Ra St. Brown, receiver Devon Williams, who was the leading receiver at Oregon this past season, and linebacker Kana’i Mauga, who just declared for the NFL draft.

Sam Spiegelman: 5-star offensive lineman Devon Campbell is 'program-changer' for Texas

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Soft-spoken offensive lineman Devon Campbell has one of the meanest games of any player in the country. He now represents the future of Texas football. Campbell, a five-star offensive lineman, according to the On3 Consensus, a complete and equally weighted industry-generated average, signed with the Longhorns on Wednesday. Oklahoma was the other finalist for the mauler from the Dallas Metroplex.

Campbell, the No. 33 overall player in the country, caps a star-studded Longhorns haul along the offensive line this cycle that also features On3 five-star tackle Kelvin Banks as well as in-state four-stars Neto Umeozulu, Cameron Williams, Cole Hutson and Connor Robertson. The nation’s top-ranked interior offensive lineman, Campbell represents an immediate upgrade for Kyle Flood’s unit upfront as soon as he arrives on campus.

Flood spearheaded Texas’ efforts with one of the nation’s best maulers.

“Unlike a lot of people, Devon keeps to himself. He’s a soft-spoken kid. He keeps his circle small because he only likes people he trusts around, and I think that’s a great quality,” Arlington (Texas) Bowie head coach Joseph Sam told On3. “That’s how he handled his recruitment and the reason he chose Texas is because, throughout his recruitment that’s the school that truly tried to learn about him as a person and not just a football player.”

Flood lands ‘program-changer’

Sam was tabbed as Bowie’s coach before Campbell’s senior season. In true form, the On3 consensus five-star did not immediately embrace the new figure in his life. Sam worked at forging a relationship with him and even accompanied him on a few unofficial visits. Flood followed a similar blueprint and eventually cracked Campbell’s hard outer shell. The entire Longhorns staff followed suit, which resulted in a colossal win over rival Oklahoma on the recruiting trail.

“Coach Flood did an awesome job building a relationship with him outside of football and that goes for a lot of other coaches on the Texas staff, too,” Sam added. “He’s big on trusting you. They tried to learn about him outside of being a football player. Lots of coaches miss that on kids and they focus on the football side. They want to show how they can help you as a football player, but these guys talked about helping him as a person. Those guys took the time out to get to know him more as a person.”

“In the world of college football today where coaches are leaving left and right, whether they’re fired or pursuing better opportunities, the thing that gets lost is the relationship piece,” he continued. “Kids don’t go to a school because of a name. Devon went to Texas because of the people at the school.” In Campbell, Texas landed a top priority in what is a star-studded haul in the trenches. Flood’s stamp on the 2022 class is transparent and highlighted by Wednesday’s final addition.

“The No. 1 thing with Coach Flood is that he recruited him at Alabama and he wasn’t jumping in late. It wasn’t foreign to Devon when he took the job at Texas,” Sam said. “Flood loves how Devon plays the game, how explosive he is, the athlete he is. For Texas, he was priority No. 1. From a Texas standpoint, he’s a program-changer. They already signed a good offensive line class, but Devon is the alpha dog. They’re going to do a good job of holding each other accountable.”

Longhorns add OL with attitude

The 6-foot-4, 325-pound Campbell is the No. 1 interior lineman and No. 33 overall in the country. A dual-sport athlete and excellent basketball player capable of running the floor and finishing on the other end, Campbell possesses rare athleticism for the position paired with overwhelming power and agility. He’s a finisher that’s dominant in space and plays with a massive chip on his shoulder.

During the offseason, Campbell was excellent in 1-on-1s and can pass protect with the same tenacity he displays in the run game. He’s been used on both sides of the line, multiple spots from tackle inside to guard, and is equally impressive firing off the line and out-physicaling the opposition. He’s an immediate-impact blocker for most programs and certainly should be for Texas.

 

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1 hour ago, ousux said:
2 hours ago, Getafix said:
 
Here's what Roach didn't realize ... Tapp's commitment DID take a couple of hours to come down.  It still was in the middle of his meal ... 
 

Roach's "meal" could be 8 Allsups burritos and a large Mt Dew driving to Lubbock

Negged for the image of that earthquake and its aftershocks.

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2 hours ago, BrazilHorn said:

If Christian Jones is still starting at LT this team is dorked. I cannot see that as a possibility as he plays on roller skates.

I too was very surprised to see Ian Boyd plug him in at LT. I expected him to be suggesting he should move to free safety or something.

I do expect Jones to be occupying one of the two starting tackle spots next year. He's pretty clearly ahead of Karic in Flood's mind. The main variable is if Kelvin Banks shows up to fall camp and his skillset differentiates him at LT. In that case, I think you get Banks at LT and Jones at RT. If not, or if Flood just doesn't want to start a true freshman, I think Jones mans the LT spot again and Karic, or maybe even Connor, plays RT.

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A true freshman with nothing but fall camp under his belt is probably not starting until late in the season at the very best. Regardless of how many stars he has.

If we're serious about not pursuing a transfer portal option it has to be Jones. And if he gets injured before the season starts we're in deep trouble.

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Our O-Line talent is battered dogshit outside of this freshman class. Nobody wants to start true freshmen but some of the OL in this class are going to be among the 5 best OL on the team by the 2nd day of camp. Unless some transfers come in I'm expecting at least 2 to be starters.

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5 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

Our O-Line talent is battered dogshit outside of this freshman class. Nobody wants to start true freshmen but some of the OL in this class are going to be among the 5 best OL on the team by the 2nd day of camp. Unless some all transfers come in I'm expecting at least 2 to be starters.

i'm hoping for one Justin Blalock and one Casey Studdard. That's all I ask.

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33 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

I too was very surprised to see Ian Boyd plug him in at LT. I expected him to be suggesting he should move to free safety or something.

I do expect Jones to be occupying one of the two starting tackle spots next year. He's pretty clearly ahead of Karic in Flood's mind. The main variable is if Kelvin Banks shows up to fall camp and his skillset differentiates him at LT. In that case, I think you get Banks at LT and Jones at RT. If not, or if Flood just doesn't want to start a true freshman, I think Jones mans the LT spot again and Karic, or maybe even Connor, plays RT.

I get he wouldn't play S but shit he sucked so bad at LT I would be willing to play the 5 star recruit freshman at LT vs playing Jones' busted out ass out there. Bet on the future and Jones isn't it.

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4 hours ago, ATXbronco said:

And so now we get to move into the 2023-to-2022 re-classify season recruiting?

Yep...

Five-star prospect Lebbeus Overton, top-ranked football recruit, reclassifying to 2022 class

10:04 AM CT       Tom VanHaaren   ESPN Staff Writer

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Five-star defensive lineman Lebbeus Overton, the No. 1-ranked prospect in the 2023 football class, is reclassifying to the 2022 class to enroll in college this spring.  Overton is a 6-foot-3, 265-pound prospect out of Milton High School in Milton, Georgia. Despite the fact that signing day passed for the 2022 class, Overton and his family have decided he will reclassify and join a university earlier than originally expected.

"He's a 4.0 kid, he has been taking AP classes and so he's got quite a few college credits already and was already in position to graduate this spring," Overton's father, Milton, told ESPN. "I would say just the last month or two, he kind of evaluated things after football season. His coach left, there are very few seniors left on the team ... he wants to play for a championship."

Milton Overton is the athletic director at Kennesaw State, but both he and Overton's mother were academic advisers at the college level at one point in their careers. The family has been discussing this decision for a few months and decided this would be the best option at this point.

Lebbeus Overton outlined his top five schools as Georgia, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon and Texas A&M. Milton Overton says his son will take visits to all five schools over the next few months. Once all five visits are finished, Overton will make a decision that the family anticipates could happen around April.

"He knows there's still a lot of work he's going to do to prepare," Milton Overton said. "He's going to be going up against top-notch 300-pounders that are four- and five-star prospects as well.

"So it's not going to be a walk in the park -- he realizes that. He's very competitive, so he knows he's got to compete for everything and he doesn't have expectations to come in and start right away or anything like that. He's going to work for it."

Overton and his family now face a truncated timeline to evaluate the schools that are recruiting him, but those programs have been building a relationship throughout the past few years, and the visits will help provide the final pieces to the puzzle.

Given his parents' academic careers and his prowess in the classroom, Overton is looking for the perfect fit both academically and athletically.

"He's very appreciative of all the schools that recruited him, everyone treated him with class with dignity and respect," Milton Overton said. "This is all about finding the right fit for him and the decision that's best for him.

"I'd say priority-wise, it's always going to be school and academics, who's going to provide the best academic opportunities for him in business and engineering. Secondly, it's going to be where can he go and develop to become a better player, and that's the order. So it'd be principle-based."

 

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3 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

I get he wouldn't play S but shit he sucked so bad at LT I would be willing to play the 5 star recruit freshman at LT vs playing Jones' busted out ass out there. Bet on the future and Jones isn't it.

I was making fun of Ian Boyd, not you.

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7 hours ago, ousux said:

Problem is others have noticed our haul this year...he may be a name some schools looking for a new HC next year have on their shortlist. I mean sure he's just a position coach, but one with a better resume (2021 Longhorns season excepted) than most.

Having said that, I'll need to see some vast improvement in '22 before I fret about losing him after the season.

All we have to do is pay more money to keep them, its a good problem to have

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Satya isn't wrong.  Our OT situation is scary.  Jones is the incumbent and everyone would love for him to be benched, but we don't have clearly better options.  Relying on true freshman is risky, at best.  We should have taken a grad transfer or portal OT to set a reasonable floor for the position.  We've got talented options, but we don't know if they'll be good options for this season. 

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1 hour ago, Bevo14 said:

Our O-Line talent is battered dogshit outside of this freshman class. Nobody wants to start true freshmen but some of the OL in this class are going to be among the 5 best OL on the team by the 2nd day of camp. Unless some all transfers come in I'm expecting at least 2 to be starters.

 

14 minutes ago, RabidM said:

Satya isn't wrong.  Our OT situation is scary.  Jones is the incumbent and everyone would love for him to be benched, but we don't have clearly better options.  Relying on true freshman is risky, at best.  We should have taken a grad transfer or portal OT to set a reasonable floor for the position.  We've got talented options, but we don't know if they'll be good options for this season. 

We should be looking for at least one transfer but for the second year in a row this staff isn’t doing it, and I expect it to bite us just like it did last year. 

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Shit guys, apparently we've been "working overtime" to discredit blOU's super-special 2022 class. Did anyone here get the memo?
 

I have not spent one second looking at OU’s class. Like, I legitimately have no idea who they landed other than that Kobie fuck. Hope that doesn’t hurt real clong’s feelings.
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I’m always leery of trusting the coaches after the last decade, but I’ll trust Flood because I think he’s damn good and guys like Tope Imade who have been through 35 offensive line coaches would have a good idea what good looks like. Every fan and 9.95er last year swore Karic needed to play and then he played two games and we realized real quick why Flood was hesitant to throw him out there.

You can get by with someone like Jones. He isn’t going to set the world on fire but he’s far better than some of the other trash we’ve trotted out the last 5 years or so. If he improves a little this offseason he should be fine with the upgrades we’ve made around him.

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There’s been like 2 or 3 OL in the portal who were clear upgrades. Frazier from FIU and maybe one or two others. The rest were FCS heroes and guys who were highly rated coming out of HS with no college production.

OL is the hardest position to find in the portal. You don’t just snap your fingers and the portal fairy drops one in your lap.

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44 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Do you know that to be the case?

Sark didn’t list it as a position they’d eloping for and we haven’t offered anyone. So I guess you can hope they have some amazing OL transfer they’re going to get to announce after the spring…

35 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

There’s been like 2 or 3 OL in the portal who were clear upgrades. Frazier from FIU and maybe one or two others. The rest were FCS heroes and guys who were highly rated coming out of HS with no college production.

OL is the hardest position to find in the portal. You don’t just snap your fingers and the portal fairy drops one in your lap.

There’s been more than 3 guys who would’ve upgraded our OL. We haven’t offered any of them. Just because OL is scarce doesn’t mean there’s been no opportunity to upgrade and we’re pretty clearly not trying. 

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52 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

If the option was taking an extra 2022 OL or someone like Curtis Dunlap (who was ranked as like the 15th best available player in the portal at one point)….we made the right choice.

Maybe, but that’s now 2 off-seasons where we felt nobody but freshman were needed. Pretty flawed logic

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1 hour ago, Burt Macklin said:

Sark didn’t list it as a position they’d eloping for and we haven’t offered anyone. So I guess you can hope they have some amazing OL transfer they’re going to get to announce after the spring…

There’s been more than 3 guys who would’ve upgraded our OL. We haven’t offered any of them. Just because OL is scarce doesn’t mean there’s been no opportunity to upgrade and we’re pretty clearly not trying. 

There’s no way we could take a transfer OL. Have you even looked at the fucking numbers? 

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22 minutes ago, Revolution512 said:

Maybe, but that’s now 2 off-seasons where we felt nobody but freshman were needed. Pretty flawed logic

Which freshmen were we placing our hope in last offseason? Last offseason made sense to bring a guy in there, not sure why they didn't. This offseason, there are bigger needs defensively but if there's a guaranteed starter out there that we can actually land, we should take him. 

We were fortunate to get Calvin Anderson, who had connections to the city of Austin, in the spring and he did pretty damn well. But I trust Flood to field a solid unit with the allocated numbers much more than I trust PK/Choate. It's also easier to find inside linebackers in the portal. 

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2 hours ago, Tree Fidy said:


@quigley is this you?

STILL not me.

Anyway, where did you guy see me say I loved OU's class or hated UT's? Both were relatively fortunate this year under the circumstances.

OU's deficiency is at WR (and OL, but they made up for OL a bit in the portal), and UT's...I rarely comment on your players.

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