Texas Recruiting Notes 2022 - Idiotic Slapfights Unrelated To 2022 Recruiting

[texifornia 57034]

Overshown back (unsurprisingly)

 

[SydneyCarton 48135]

12 hours ago, satyanash said:

Shit guys, apparently we've been "working overtime" to discredit blOU's super-special 2022 class. Did anyone here get the memo?

 

I mean, normally that’s your job, dude, not ours. 

11 hours ago, texifornia said:

This post is positive? And self-deprecatingly funny?

What did you do with the real satya???

Solid to quite solid. 

[satyanash 14570]

Ian Boyd: How well did Texas and Oklahoma recruit vs the SEC?

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From here on out, Texas and Oklahoma’s recruiting is going to be evaluated primarily in terms of how it sets them up for the move to the SEC. They’re both still in the Big 12 for the next year or likely two, but recruiting is about the future and when these guys are third-year players who are defining the programs those schools will probably be entering the SEC.

Both Texas and Oklahoma have had some SIGNIFICANT portal movement both in and out of the program we’ll evaluate over the course of the offseason. Obviously the major changes are at quarterback where the Sooners lost former 5-stars Spencer Rattler and Caleb Williams and added former 3-star Dillon Gabriel. Texas lost former 4-star Casey Thompson and added former 5-star Quinn Ewers. Whether those recruiting rankings will correlate to the relative effects on those programs in the coming year is a question for another time.

Today we’re going to talk about these high school additions each school took and how it will set them up for their eventual move to the SEC. In the big picture, Texas signed 28 players and 22 of them are blue chips (4-stars or higher) by the On3 Consensus rankings. Oklahoma signed 21, 17 of which are blue chips. If you ranked the top 10 classes of the future SEC by On3’s scoring it would go:

1. Texas A&M
2. Alabama
3. Georgia
4. Texas
5. Oklahoma
6. LSU
7. Kentucky
8. Missouri
9. Tennessee
10. Auburn

We’ll look a little deeper though here than just the sheer volume rankings.

Trench warfare in the southeast

Steve Sarkisian has been clear all along about what he sees as the path to competing in the SEC, being big in the trenches. He even sold the Arkansas game as being a good test of trench muscle and a measuring stick for where Texas was in their pursuit of being a competitive SEC team in the future. Unfortunately for him in the short term, perhaps fortunately in the long run, Texas failed the test in about as spectacular a fashion as you could imagine. Arkansas played three-deep Tampa 2 from dime personnel and stuffed the Texas run game with a five-man box while routinely pressuring the quarterback with a three-man rush. Ouch.

Brent Venables has sold a similar story and we’ve seen his formula for about two decades now at Oklahoma and Clemson, at least on defense. His formula? Field an NFL defensive line, which is how he beat Alabama in 2018 (in addition to having Trevor Lawrence, Justyn Ross, and Tee Higgins).

Of these two, only one was able to actually recruit his 2022 class over the course of the cycle. Ultimately, no one will care in three seasons when these teams are competing in the SEC, the coaches will still be held to account. Here’s how they did on their respective side of the ball in terms of preparing for the future. Texas’ O-line class goes:

• Devon Campbell: 6-foot-3, 325 pounder from DFW. Rated as a 97.8 by On3 Consensus.
• Kelvin Banks: 6-foot-5, 315 pounder from Houston. Rated as a 97.225 by On3 Consensus.
• Neto Umeozulu: 6-foot-4, 285 pounder from DFW. Rated as a 94.425 by On3 Consensus.
• Cameron Williams: 6-foot-5, 375 pounder from DFW. Rated as a 90.675 by On3 Consensus.
• Malik Agbo: 6-foot-5, 329 pounder from Washington. Rated as a 89.250 by On3 Consensus.
• Cole Hutson: 6-foot-5, 315 pounder from DFW. Rated as a 88.75 by On3 Consensus.
• Connor Robertson: 6-foot-4, 296 pounder from Austin. Rated as a 88.50 by On3 Consensus.

Mission accomplished. Texas filled up to the ninth degree with two of the most sought-after recruits in the state of Texas, several big time prospects who match Sark’s desire to field a line of literally big people, and depth of quality. Here’s Oklahoma’s D-line class:

• Kobie McKenzie: 6-foot-2, 245 pounder from West Texas. Rated as a 90.825 by On3 Consensus.
• Gracen Halton: 6-foot-2, 262 pounder from SoCal. Rated as a 90.425 by On3 Consensus.
• R. Mason Thomas: 6-foot-2, 217 pounder from South Florida. Rated as a 90.075 by On3 Consensus.
• Cedric Roberts: 6-foot-3, 275 pounder from Austin. Rated as a 87.30 by On3 Consensus.

I include McKenzie because I think he’ll end up as a weakside rusher but he’s technically currently classified as an off-ball linebacker. One of the fundamental challenges confronting Venables is evident in this list. His predecessor Alex Grinch was focused on recruiting speed across the defensive front to a degree that was truly unique at the Power 5 level.

Venables has long been about speed and disruption from the front four as well. The 2000 National Championship ring he has from Oklahoma came with an unheralded and undersized D-line. Some of his most famous players there in the Oklahoma days included Tommie Harris, who played nose tackle at under 300 pounds, and Gerald McCoy who was 6-foot-4, 295 pounds at the combine coming out of Norman.

This is something else though, he wasn’t playing 260-pound dudes at 3-technique if he didn’t have to and preferred to emphasize blue chips on the D-line. A testament to Venables’ coordination is how his Clemson (and Oklahoma) units regularly made stars out of non-blue chip recruits at linebacker (the position he coached) while emphasizing big game hunting on the D-line to get guys who are hard to develop or find within the 3-star ranks.

These four guys are rated well, but this isn’t how Venables would have built the class had he been in charge before December. For 2023 OU is in the hunt for multiple blue chip defensive tackles. Before this cycle, I had deep reservations about whether trying to win by virtue of having an O-line of blue chips was a winning strategy for Texas. It simply hasn’t been done before. Mack Brown didn’t even try for much of his tenure and most of his best lines included heavy doses of lighter, 3-stars they’d bulked up and developed.

Of course they haven’t won anything with these kids yet, but Texas at least demonstrated they could recruit at a nationally elite level on the O-line with this current staff. Oklahoma has already proven in the past they can recruit highly-rated D-line units and the state of Texas tends to be where they find them. Venables will need to get to it with this next class.

On the other side, each school also has some big aspirations but are perhaps less reliant on high level recruiting. Oklahoma is installing an RPO spread system which has routinely made champions from non-elite lines while Texas is coordinated by Pete Kwiatkowski who made his name producing NFL defensive linemen from 3-star prospects at Washington and Boise State. Here’s the Oklahoma O-line class:

• Jake Taylor: 6-foot-6, 283 pounder from Nevada. Rated as a 93.975 by On3 Consensus.
• Jacob Sexton: 6-foot-6, 285 pounder from Oklahoma. Rated as a 90.675 by On3 consensus.

Solid but thin. The worst part is they also only have two from 2021. They’ve been trying to backfill with the transfer portal but… it’s generally pretty hard to recruit high level O-line talent from the portal. If you’re over 6-foot-2, 290 pounds and athletic you’re probably not lacking for playing time where you originally signed and thus, are less likely to transfer. It’s not like quarterback where only one guy can be THE guy.

Considering O-line has been an area where the Sooners have stood out in the Big 12 for two decades (since Kevin Wilson was hired in 2002), this is a bit worrisome. Here’s the Texas D-line class (include Edges):

• Justice Finkley: 6-foot-2, 255 pounder from Alabama. Rated as a 93.075 by On3 Consensus.
• Jaray Bledsoe: 6-foot-4, 270 pounder from Central Texas. Rated as a 92.90 by On3 Consensus.
• J’Mond Tapp: 6-foot-3, 247 pounder from Louisiana. Rated as a 92.90 by On3 Consensus.
• Kristopher Ross: 6-foot-3, 280 pounder from Houston. Rated as a 92.025 by On3 Consensus.
• Aaron Bryant: 6-foot-3, 290 pounder from Mississippi. Rated as a 90.00 by On3 Consensus.
• Derrick Brown: 6-foot-3, 208 pounder from East Texas. Rated as a 89.350 by On3 Consensus.
• Ethan Burke: 6-foot-7, 230 pounder from Austin. Rated as a 89.350 by On3 Consensus.
• Zac Swanson: 6-foot-4, 255 pounder from Arizona. Rated as a 88.025 by On3 Consensus.

The sheer numbers make plain the importance Sark put on the trenches with the SEC move in the future. The Longhorns signed 28 players and 15 of them are OL/DL (including Edge/Outside linebacker hybrids). Again, the Sooners were held back by the fact their head coach betrayed them at the last minute and headed off to Hollywood. So this isn’t necessarily an indictment on Venables and their program but it also isn’t how you want to recruit when you’re about to head into a conference known for being differentiated by having NFL talent in the trenches.

Space force and quarterback?

If you’re new here, the “space force” positions are the ones where you regularly draw 1-on-1 matchups in space which have high stakes on the impact of a game. Left tackle, deep threat receiver, cornerback, and Edge rusher. Some of these are included above. The Longhorns signed multiple potential left tackles, the Sooners signed perhaps one, Texas signed multiple Edge rushers and OU took two.

You may be asking, “didn’t Oklahoma sign blue chip recruits nearly exclusively in this cycle? Where are they all?” Some of them factor in here. The Sooners signed two cornerbacks, two wide receivers, and an athlete in Jamarrien Burt who probably won’t qualify as a space force player (sounds like he’ll play safety).

Gentry Williams is the big addition here, a 94.425 rated corner from within the state who’s a track star at 5-foot-11. Williams could be the sort of island corner who can make a big difference for a defense. Their receivers Nicholas Anderson and Jayden Gibson are both bigger bodied wideouts of the sort who typically aren’t exactly deep threat weapons but can be depending on various factors. Typically you need speed to really take the top off a defense.

Texas signed a few cornerbacks, headlined by 5-star Terrance Brooks who lacks elite speed but has most everything else you’d want in a defensive back. At receiver they signed only two players, thickly built Savion Red who broke out in 2021 playing quarterback, and track star Brenen Thompson who matches the Jaylen Waddle, DeVonta Smith, Xavier Worthy prototype Sark has been utilizing the last few years.

At quarterback both programs took short-term transfers who figure to play sooner than later (Dillon Gabriel and Quinn Ewers) and then longer-term developmental projects. For OU it was Nick Evers while Texas signed Maalik Murphy. Both players are raw, strong-armed projects the schools are hoping will be well developed within the system in case they are needed come 2024 when they’ll presumably be taking on a SEC schedule.

Right now I tend to think each is more likely to be quarterbacked by 2023 signees. OU has a commitment from Denton Guyer’s Jackson Arnold, a really strong spread quarterback, while Texas is chasing Arch Manning.

The overall trajectories of the programs have changed some despite Oklahoma having a much stronger season in 2021 and a much better track record over the last decade. While there is still loads of talent heading to Norman, they’re going to have to reshuffle their roster quite a bit to suit the new approach and it isn’t necessarily the specific sort of talent Venables will be looking for to rebuild Oklahoma’s defense.

Texas got exactly what they were after for their first recruiting class under Sark, at least in the lines. When 2024 or so comes around and these two teams enter the SEC, Texas will have the head start on shaping the program according to their coach’s vision for competing in the new league. As for the short term, we’ll have to suss out the portal changes to these two rosters to get a better feel for how things are likely to go in 2022.

(Gerry Hamilton) Texas Longhorns 2022 class: Start, play or development year

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The Texas Longhorns No. 5 ranked 2022 recruiting class is complete. Steve Sarkisian’s first full class includes 25 players that were ranked as On3 Consensus 5-stars and 4-stars. That includes a trio of transfers expected to start next season.

The 2022 class will have a number of players start, or push for playing time due to transfers out of the program and a 2021 class that isn’t as talented the incoming bunch. The 2021 class produced one starter among the high school prospects, Xavier Worthy. And two transfers that would be considered starters. Here are the picks to start, play or develop for a year next season.

Start next season

Quinn Ewers, QB, Southlake (Texas) Carroll

Yep, I’m making the very early call on Ewers winning the starting job. And his play next season will very likely determine how much the Longhorns ascend. Quality quarterback play is a must as the staff works to rebuild the program in certain positions.

Isaiah Neyor, WR, Arlington (Texas) Lamar

Neyor will play opposite Xavier Worthy, and be in the mix for All-Big 12 honors.

Kelvin Banks, LT, Humble (Texas) Summer Creek

Calling my shot here. Banks will take over the left tackle spot early in the season with Christian Jones moving back to right tackle.

Jahleel Billingsley, TE, Chicago (Ill.) Phillips Academy

A lot of experience, especially big game experience. The ability to stretch the field from the tight end position will be big for the offense next season.

Ryan Watts, CB, Little Elm (Texas)

Watts will push the returnees, and start games at corner. Scheme fit with experience practicing against a number of future NFL wide receivers at Ohio State makes him an easy choice. And he has a frame and skill set that didn’t exist in the program until he arrived.

Lance St. Louis, LS, Gilbert (Ariz.) Williams Field

With Justin Mader moving on, the opportunity is there for St. Louis to win a job.

Will play next season

Bryan Allen Jr., S, Aledo (Texas)

Allen will play for sure. He’s too good against the run with pad speed suddenness. The ability in coverage will determine if he starts or not.

Terrance Brooks, CB/N, Little Elm (Texas)

Brooks will be too good to keep off the field. Pushing for a starting spot at some point next season wouldn’t be a surprise. He can literally play anywhere in the secondary.

Justice Finkley, EDGE, Trussville (Ala.) Hewitt-Trussville

Finkley coming in for the spring will get him on the field. Motor and toughness is needed in the program and against the run. The EDGE position being unsettled in Austin made Texas a very good selection by Finkley.

Devon Campbell, IOL, Arlington (Texas) Bowie

Campbell wants a shot at tackle in August. The will set back the development slightly on the interior, which is where he will end up.

Brenen Thompson, WR, Spearman (Texas)

Thompson’s 10.2 speed will get him on the field. He could also factor into the kickoff return game.

Jaylon Guilbeau, DB, Port Arthur (Texas) Memorial

Guilbeau is a competitive player that works extremely hard. The question will be how much patience will he have if he’s not playing as much as he desires.

Jaydon Blue, RB, Houston (Texas) Klein Cain

Injuries happen at running back every year. That, along with the ability to catch the football will get Blue some snaps.

Cole Hutson, IOL, Frisco (Texas)

Hutson will be one of nine offensive linemen in the spring. That will put him way ahead of the game as a true freshman.

Neto Umeozulu, OT/IOL, Allen (Texas)

Umeozulu is likely to see some time to gain experience. The question is whether that will be right tackle or guard. He will be tried at both in August.

Kristopher Ross, DL, Houston (Texas) North Shore

There is a feeling that Ross is one of the more underrated recruits in the country. He’s played against top competition, and will make huge gains physically after reporting in June.

Austin Jordan, S, Denton (Texas) Ryan

Jordan will be a factor on special teams, and is a pick to push late in the season for time at safety.

Savion Red, WR, Grand Prairie (Texas)

Too much injury history in the receiver room in Austin to definitively say Red will redshirt. He could use a year to learn the position, however.

Will Stone, K, Austin (Texas) Regents School

Cameron Dicker graduating has opened up a kicking competition in Austin.

Development year likely

Aaron Bryant, DL, Southaven (Miss.)

Texas has depth and experience on the interior of the defensive line. If the early enrollee works his way onto the field next season, Texas has hit on a disruptive tackle prospect.

Jaray Bledsoe, DL, Marlin (Texas)

Bledsoe is already the most physically gifted defensive tackle in the program. But he also came to Texas as the one farthest from being ready to play Power 5 ball.

J’mond Tapp, EDGE, Donaldsonville (La.) Ascension Catholic

Tapp has NFL Draft pick potential. But it’s more than likely that Tapp will need time to adapt to college. If he adapts fast, watch out for a quick ascender.

Cameron Williams, OT/IOL, Duncanville (Texas)

Williams is a complete wildcard. He could make huge gains in the summer and push for time. He will get looks at right tackle and guard early on.

Connor Robertson, IOL, Austin (Texas) Westlake

Robertson is playing center for the Longhorns. He could push for time if he is fully recovered from shoulder surgery following the Westlake state title run.

Malik Agbo, IOL/OT, Federal Way (Wash.) Todd Beamer

Major step up in competition for Agbo. Patience will be the key, as will be matching the physicality of Power 5 football.

Larry Turner-Gooden, S, Playa Del Rey (Calif.) Bishop Alemany

LT-G is recovering from early season shoulder surgery. Time and developing at one position is likely needed.

Maalik Murphy, QB, Gardena (Calif.) Junipero Serra

Murphy needs the most development time of anyone in the class. Quinn Ewers transferring to Texas is actually a good thing for Murphy – if he has patience.

Derrick Brown, EDGE, Texarkana (Texas) Texas High

Brown will need time to physically develop, as well as proving if he can play on the edge against the run.

Ethan Burke, EDGE, Austin (Texas) Westlake

Ceiling is extremely high, but he will need time to develop physically. If he can get to 245 pounds with added strength by August, he could move to play.

Trevell Johnson, LB, Arlington (Texas) Martin

Johnson is coming off a season ending injury. He will need time to stack weight on his frame.

Xavion Brice, DB, Arlington (Texas) Seguin

With Brice not enrolling until June, finding his future home in the secondary was set back. A developmental year could be key here.

Zac Swanson, DL, Phoenix (Ariz.) Brophy Prep

A lot of experienced bodies ahead of Swanson on the interior. Patience will be required.

 

[Tex-19 2872]

When did Campbell trying RT become a thing?  Hope he's not too stuck on that idea

[Laxtonto 12090]

3 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

When did Campbell trying RT become a thing?  Hope he's not too stuck on that idea

Flood is a well known  size queen at tackle. And has had plenty of success getting those guys turned into NFL tackles. Worse case it doesn’t work, but let’s not think that he’s running with the RT idea on his own without input from Flood.

[Tex-19 2872]

1 minute ago, Laxtonto said:

Flood is a well known  size queen at tackle. And has had plenty of success getting those guys turned into NFL tackles. Worse case it doesn’t work, but let’s not think that he’s running with the RT idea on his own without input from Flood.

Isn't Campbell one of the smallest OLs of the bunch by height/length? I think size queen means more than weight..

[Codaxx 5806]

1 hour ago, Tex-19 said:

Isn't Campbell one of the smallest OLs of the bunch by height/length? I think size queen means more than weight..

Yes. I am sure this is where Campbell wants to start playing and the coaches will let him start there. I would bet Flood sees a day where Cam and Banks are manning the tackles 

[RabidM 2668]

We need to start tampering with any Auburn players worth a shit that we might need.  They can't transfer to an SEC school anymore...

[Hornlover 8830]

4 hours ago, satyanash said:

Ian Boyd: How well did Texas and Oklahoma recruit vs the SEC?

(Gerry Hamilton) Texas Longhorns 2022 class: Start, play or development year

 

I wonder if Xavion Brice looks at an anemic WR room, and decides that there's a quicker path to starting by playing offense?

Edited February 5, 2022 by Hornlover

[OB3 3629]

41 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Yes. I am sure this is where Campbell wants to start playing and the coaches will let him start there. I would bet Flood sees a day where Cam and Banks are Manning’s tackles

FIFY

[HenryJames 66135]

4 hours ago, satyanash said:

Ian Boyd

Negged.

[Atticus 3978]

40 minutes ago, Hornlover said:

I wonder if Xavion Brice looks at an anemic WR room, and decides that there's a quicker path to starting by playing offense?

Brice is a take as a DB and a DB only. That's how he got the better offers.

[utexas8 1463]

Did anyone else besides roach drop a behind the scenes

[closetohumping 17455]

4 hours ago, Laxtonto said:

Flood is a well known  size queen at tackle. 

So is south Austin’s mom

[futureman 22512]

16 hours ago, Tex-19 said:

When did Campbell trying RT become a thing?  Hope he's not too stuck on that idea

why? he could be great at tackle. 

[ousux 5601]

When did Campbell trying RT become a thing?  Hope he's not too stuck on that idea

Being willing and able to play right or left is the fast track to getting pt early. Not sure thats where he should be, but nothing wrong with trying him out there.

[ousux 5601]

When did Campbell trying RT become a thing?  Hope he's not too stuck on that idea

Being willing and able to play right or left is the fast track to getting pt early. Not sure thats where he should be, but nothing wrong with trying him out there.

[Tex-19 2872]

3 minutes ago, ousux said:

18 hours ago, Tex-19 said:

When did Campbell trying RT become a thing?  Hope he's not too stuck on that idea

Being willing and able to play right or left is the fast track to getting pt early. Not sure thats where he should be, but nothing wrong with trying him out there.

You thinking of Banks? I really meant OT vs G for Campbell, not the side

[texifornia 57034]

3 minutes ago, ousux said:

18 hours ago, Tex-19 said:

When did Campbell trying RT become a thing?  Hope he's not too stuck on that idea

Being willing and able to play right or left is the fast track to getting pt early. Not sure thats where he should be, but nothing wrong with trying him out there.

It'd not about right/left, it's that he's probably a guard for us long term.

[texifornia 57034]

Dude's clearly been x-training at Navarro.

[RollingPresidential 633]

14 hours ago, utexas8 said:

Did anyone else besides roach drop a behind the scenes

Was wondering the same myself. IT's would be interesting, or TFB's since they were willing to quote a dollar figure for Neyor.

[gmr548 16590]

If promising a shot at tackle helped get him to sign then it’s worth it. Texas isn’t exactly swimming in OT talent. He has the tools to be a good tackle.

Obviously do agree his long term ceiling is highest at guard. He has the makings of a good tackle, but an elite, decade in the NFL type of guard. Hopefully Flood will work on getting him to come around on that.

[Codaxx 5806]

7 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

If promising a shot at tackle helped get him to sign then it’s worth it. Texas isn’t exactly swimming in OT talent. He has the tools to be a good tackle.

Obviously do agree his long term ceiling is highest at guard. He has the makings of a good tackle, but an elite, decade in the NFL type of guard. Hopefully Flood will work on getting him to come around on that.

This. To be honest it is not crazy to think Campbell could hold up at RT in college. It’s isn’t his highest ceiling, but he is very athletic for a guard 

Edited February 5, 2022 by Codaxx

[Codaxx 5806]

17 hours ago, HenryJames said:

Negged.

I have to say Ian said something that I thought was quite interesting and on point with Cam Williams. He said “he looks more comfortable going backwards than forward.”  I thought that was dead on from watching Cam in the playoffs. He has a really nice kick step for a young player. He is definitely sloppy in run blocking, mostly because he gets away with just pushing people around.  

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

Wonder if it’s him actually wanting to or IT doing a classic position flip “battle”

[futureman 22512]

42 minutes ago, texifornia said:

It'd not about right/left, it's that he's probably a guard for us long term.

probably. but he should be able to handle tackle in college just fine. 

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

Get the best 5 linemen on the field 

[Chuckie Finster 22703]

Did anyone else besides roach drop a behind the scenes

Pretty sure TFB did yesterday but haven’t seen it

[Askew 362]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Get the best 5 linemen on the field 

It can bit more nuanced as far as best 5 vs best overall unit. 

Assume best 6 in order is Angilau, Banks, Campbell, Jones, Majors, Conner. I may decide that Campbell plays RT better than Jones, and Conner plays G better than Jones, so Jones becomes my sixth man. 

Banks - Angilau - Majors - Conner - Campbell. 

The "best 5" mentality might have hurt us in 2020, when Kerstetter moved to C. Inserting Majors theoretically could have produced a better unit. Hindsight, tho. 

[LTtxfan 49323]

 

[LTtxfan 49323]

 

[Hornius Emeritus 12480]

26 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

 

The kid has a 112" wingspan so he basically lines up in the backfield on every play.

[futureman 22512]

2 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

The kid has a 112" wingspan

damn. seriously?

[Hornius Emeritus 12480]

16 minutes ago, futureman said:

damn. seriously?

Yup. 6'7" tall but has a 9'4" wingspan. The play starts and he reaches over and tackles the opposing QB. 

[futureman 22512]

18 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

Yup. 6'7" tall but has a 9'4" wingspan. The play starts and he reaches over and tackles the opposing QB. 

wow. glad we got him. 

[Bevo14 8356]

29 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

Yup. 6'7" tall but has a 9'4" wingspan. The play starts and he reaches over and tackles the opposing QB. 

[honolulu horn 6165]

33 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

Yup. 6'7" tall but has a 9'4" wingspan. The play starts and he reaches over and tackles the opposing QB. 

[Tex-19 2872]

3 hours ago, Askew said:

It can bit more nuanced as far as best 5 vs best overall unit. 

Assume best 6 in order is Angilau, Banks, Campbell, Jones, Majors, Conner. I may decide that Campbell plays RT better than Jones, and Conner plays G better than Jones, so Jones becomes my sixth man. 

Banks - Angilau - Majors - Conner - Campbell. 

The "best 5" mentality might have hurt us in 2020, when Kerstetter moved to C. Inserting Majors theoretically could have produced a better unit. Hindsight, tho. 

Yeah I agree. Moving DK to C meant we had a bad C and a bad RT instead of a bad C and a good RT. That was dumb.

I’d rather have Devon as a stud Guard and Jones as an average RT instead of Campbell as an average Tackle and someone else as an average G.

As long as he’s actually open to G, should work out fine. And pretty sure he was a G in the UA All American game so he must not be too set on T.

[Lonestar88 4698]

7 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Yeah I agree. Moving DK to C meant we had a bad C and a bad RT instead of a bad C and a good RT. That was dumb.

I’d rather have Devon as a stud Guard and Jones as an average RT instead of Campbell as an average Tackle and someone else as an average G.

As long as he’s actually open to G, should work out fine. And pretty sure he was a G in the UA All American game so he must not be too set on T.

He also could actually end up being good at tackle, there’s no harm in seeing if that’s the case or not.

9.95ers and most of this board infamously think 99% of all high school OL are destined for the the interior because they apply NFL standards to high school kids.

[futureman 22512]

21 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

I’d rather have Devon as a stud Guard and Jones as an average RT instead of Campbell as an average Tackle and someone else as an average G.

what in the world makes you think campbell would be an average tackle?

[Bevo14 8356]

Didn't the patriots draft some 6'2 dude from Georgia in the first round as an OT or swing guy a few years ago?

Edited February 5, 2022 by Bevo14

[futureman 22512]

34 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

Didn't the patriots draft some 6'2 dude from Georgia in the first round as an OT or swing guy a few years ago?

isaiah wynn. 6’2”. if they can play they can play. campbell is plenty big to play tackle in college. 

[Codaxx 5806]

4 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

After 6 years of Christian Jones and Tristan Nickelson playing OT for us, you would think people would be more open to the idea of someone who can actually move his feet playing OT instead of searching for the next really tall, long-armed guy who moves like the Tin Man.

It’s interesting that Campbell is very athletic and Neto has been said to have the best feet. It’s almost like you let both give OT a shot and move the loser. I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing that move be to center. So much more valuable than guard and requires good feet. 

[LTtxfan 49323]

7 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

It’s interesting that Campbell is very athletic and Neto has been said to have the best feet. It’s almost like you let both give OT a shot and move the loser. I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing that move be to center. So much more valuable than guard and requires good feet. 

Man, a quality center with size would make a helluva difference in the quality of the Texas O-line as a unit...

[Codaxx 5806]

1 minute ago, LTtxfan said:

Man, a quality center with size would make a helluva difference in the quality of the Texas O-line as a unit...

I don’t understand the thought that recruitniks think Neto and Campbell are athletic enough to play Tackle, but may lack the length, and want to stick them at guard. Quality center is worth so much more and requires more athleticism. Just a thought, no idea if either would take to it. 

[Handcruser 2805]

It’s interesting that Campbell is very athletic and Neto has been said to have the best feet. It’s almost like you let both give OT a shot and move the loser. I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing that move be to center. So much more valuable than guard and requires good feet. 

Agree with this take.

[futureman 22512]

a center with good feet that can move would provide more return on investment than guard. 

[ousux 5601]

After 6 years of Christian Jones and Tristan Nickelson playing OT for us, you would think people would be more open to the idea of someone who can actually move his feet playing OT instead of searching for the next really tall, long-armed guy who moves like the Tin Man.

Nickleson moved like a wounded Giraffe, Jones isnt quite that level of horribad.

[stork642 4498]

2 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

After 6 years of Christian Jones and Tristan Nickelson playing OT for us, you would think people would be more open to the idea of someone who can actually move his feet playing OT instead of searching for the next really tall, long-armed guy who moves like the Tin Man.

In Tristan’s defense he said oooooiiiiiillllll several times but no one gave him any.  

[Scholz 11950]

2 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

Tristan Nickelson