Texas Recruiting Notes 2022 - Idiotic Slapfights Unrelated To 2022 Recruiting

[SydneyCarton 47809]

Platitudes and cliches can irritate me as much as the next guy, but the ball just looks different coming out of Murphy’s hand. 
 

if this kid had half the personality and IQ 995ers say, than it’s hard not be be content if not downright excited by this development. His stats are a concern, but he has all the tools and seems like he’d generate plenty of excitement when he gets in front of Texas kids. I’d be shocked if he remains a 5 star because he hasn’t played, but we’ll see. He looks like he’ll end up at 6’5 or 6’6 250 in college. Fuck yeah. 

[Bodacious Bevo 3572]

Such added that his source considers the weather to be a good thing. He wants Maalik to see schools when everything isn't perfect. 

He and Ketch seem to be hinting at a possible commitment. 

[Zhorn96 1772]

Sour grapes coming from a UCLA fan is the least surprising thing ever.  Their fan base is the biggest bunch of whiny bitches on the west coast.  Somehow think their Wooden era basketball cheating glory makes them relevant in football.

And Chuck Muncie should’ve curb stomped Archie Griffin in Griffins 2nd win.  Muncie was an absolute fuck beast that year.  Totally dominant.

[Thiefery 4942]

If Murphy commits in the next week or so... how long will it be til Stewert joins him?

[BurntOrange&White 39272]

9 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Ha. You touch on a fun subject for me, but probably a distraction on this thread, unless we want to get to 1000. 

Who is the worst Heisman winner since WW2? It’s hard to beat Paul Hornung. Nevermind his pro career. It was fucking rigged for Notre Dame. Outside of that fuckjob, there is some other good bullshit. Gino fucking Torretta. Troy fucking Smith. Jason fucking White. One of Archie Griffin’s two years. 

For me, Torretta is the worst followed by Griffin’s 2nd. Smith is a top 5-er though. 

This reminds me of a post I did on the old site of players who won from like 1990 to current at the time and who should have won.

[BurntOrange&White 39272]

48 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Platitudes and cliches can irritate me as much as the next guy, but the ball just looks different coming out of Murphy’s hand. 
 

if this kid had half the personality and IQ 995ers say, than it’s hard not be be content if not downright excited by this development. His stats are a concern, but he has all the tools and seems like he’d generate plenty of excitement when he gets in front of Texas kids. I’d be shocked if he remains a 5 star because he hasn’t played, but we’ll see. He looks like he’ll end up at 6’5 or 6’6 250 in college. Fuck yeah. 

Prototypical size and our coach who is known for developing. In the past a take like him would scare me because it would either be boom or bust but I think going forward in terms of QB development we can achieve the level of good to bust with some of these guys like Murphy.

[SydneyCarton 47809]

3 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

If Murphy commits in the next week or so... how long will it be til Stewert joins him?

I don’t think there’s any correlation. There seem to be plenty of folks on Stewart’s end trying to keep him from committing early. Hope to be wrong. 

[Lonestar88 4585]

7 hours ago, Newy25 said:

Eric Crouch won a Heisnan after throwing more interceptions than touchdowns. It’s hard to think of a worse winner than him. 

Paul Hornung won the Heisman after throwing 3 TDs and 13 interceptions for a 2-8 Notre Dame team. I guess his 42 yards rushing per game put him over the top.

They gave him that award over Johnny Majors who went undefeated as the Tennessee QB with more rushing yards than Hornung and more TD passes and less interceptions.

And over Jim freaking Brown, because voters refused to reward black players back then.

[Fud 9528]

If you're wondering why USC hasn't pursued Murphy (or the IMG Academy QB from California), they landed two high 4* QBs in 2021 and are all in on 5* Malaki Nelson for 2023 (as is OU, and maybe others who don't think they'll get Arch Manning), so they already took a 3* program depth type of QB commitment for 2022 as a sandwich QB, similar to what Clemson does 

[Sir Ulrich 5187]

58 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Platitudes and cliches can irritate me as much as the next guy, but the ball just looks different coming out of Murphy’s hand. 
 

Same here. If I remember correctly I saw the same when watching Fields and Lawrence coming out of high school. Those dudes throws just look different. 

[Lonestar88 4585]

Murphy coming to visit on what will probably be the coldest day of the year is pretty funny. Hopefully it doesn’t negatively affect him any.

Been saying for a while that the staff wasn’t going to wait forever on Ewers. It’s important to get your QB locked in early.

[tokamak 6347]

Platitudes and cliches can irritate me as much as the next guy, but the ball just looks different coming out of Murphy’s hand. 
 
if this kid had half the personality and IQ 995ers say, than it’s hard not be be content if not downright excited by this development. His stats are a concern, but he has all the tools and seems like he’d generate plenty of excitement when he gets in front of Texas kids. I’d be shocked if he remains a 5 star because he hasn’t played, but we’ll see. He looks like he’ll end up at 6’5 or 6’6 250 in college. Fuck yeah. 

I’ve seen 3 separate analysts praise his leadership, personality, etc. The Ewers/errbody dream might be dead, but it feels like we’d be just fine with Murphy as the leader of our class.

[texifornia 56302]

Y'all can fuck right off with that, Bryan

 

[Laga4 1270]

29 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

There seem to be plenty of folks on Stewart’s end trying to keep him from committing early. Hope to be wrong. 

Is Stewart $hopping?

[Ricky's one-hitter 9084]

1 minute ago, Laga4 said:

Is Stewart $hopping?

Tough to say definitively, but he does not profile that way, no.

[Ricky's one-hitter 9084]

56 minutes ago, Zhorn96 said:

Sour grapes coming from a UCLA fan is the least surprising thing ever.  Their fan base is the biggest bunch of whiny bitches on the west coast.  Somehow think their Wooden era basketball cheating glory makes them relevant in football.

@Sbbruin has thoughts

[HateYouAndMyself 828]

9 hours ago, RGBIII said:

Don’t forget he beat out Larry Fucking Fitzgerald for the award, literally the best college receiver I’ve ever seen

I was at that Agger v Pitt game back in 2003 or 2004 (the one in college station). Completely agree with you. Was in awe watching that kid play that day. Think he had like 3 effortless TDs or something like that. Was fucking a chick who went there at the time and I remember after the game a bunch of drunk conversations by their fans trying to figure out if we had just seen a god tier once in a generation type talent or if their defense was just that bad. I argued it was both. 

[Fud 9528]

Are there any recent 7 on 7 or training videos of Larry Turner Gooden out there? 

[closetojumping 62033]

People have allegedly and bizarrely made an NIL argument to Stewart in a way designed to give pause to making Texas his choice. That’s a bold choice and I’m interested in seeing how it works out. He allegedly isn’t looking for some illicit payday when he projects to make way more on his own based on his already large follower volume and preternatural media savvy. 

[Viper 11999]

9 hours ago, RGBIII said:

 

hey man back off, the late 90's were a different country.

[texifornia 56302]

2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

People have allegedly and bizarrely made an NIL argument to Stewart in a way designed to give pause to making Texas his choice. That’s a bold choice and I’m interested in seeing how it works out. He allegedly isn’t looking for some illicit payday when he projects to make way more on his own based on his already large follower volume and preternatural media savvy. 

Damn, I guess he's got Carl in his ear.

[Ricky's one-hitter 9084]

6 minutes ago, Fud said:

Are there any recent 7 on 7 or training videos of Larry Turner Gooden out there? 

.......................why do you ask?

[Not a Sock 2308]

3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

People have allegedly and bizarrely made an NIL argument to Stewart in a way designed to give pause to making Texas his choice. That’s a bold choice and I’m interested in seeing how it works out. He allegedly isn’t looking for some illicit payday when he projects to make way more on his own based on his already large follower volume and preternatural media savvy. 

The only way I could see line of logic this possibly working is for him to drag out his recruitment and be very public with it to garner as many followers from the largest fan bases recruiting him. I don’t see how the NIL stuff once in rolled in the program could possible used against him signing with Texas.

[Ricky's one-hitter 9084]

2 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:

The only way I could see line of logic this possibly working is for him to drag out his recruitment and be very public with it to garner as many followers from the largest fan bases recruiting him. I don’t see how the NIL stuff once in rolled in the program could possible used against him signing with Texas.

I don't think there's any immediate need for followers. Fan base follows are fickle and it's been alluded to that he's smart enough to know that game is not even really a value add in the short term for his brand, much less the long term. CTJ is right, NIL as a reason not to commit to Texas is bizarre

[Sir Ulrich 5187]

I'm assuming taking Murphy leaves us with a real shot with Manning next year. For me I'd take Murphy and Manning > Ewers and a '23 JAG

[FunkSoulBrother 923]

29 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

Tough to say definitively, but he does not profile that way, no.

Hope he’s not waiting for an fosu offer.

[SydneyCarton 47809]

Didnt we just learn that someone in the LJ recruitment managed to convince him NIL was a big advantage to going to aTm? Clearly there’s some message out there being used against us and we need to toss our biggest balls on the table and squash it. 

[texifornia 56302]

12 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Didnt we just learn that someone in the LJ recruitment managed to convince him NIL was a big advantage to going to aTm? Clearly there’s some message out there being used against us and we need to toss our biggest balls on the table and squash it. 

Correct. SEC SEC SEC and all that.

[Mikey4 2476]

Stewart has publicly talked about the money he makes on tik tok (nttawwt). It's important to him, and the name/image/likeness issues probably would be as well.

[closetojumping 62033]

18 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

I'm assuming taking Murphy leaves us with a real shot with Manning next year. For me I'd take Murphy and Manning > Ewers and a '23 JAG

I know everyone will be all over Arch Manning like they are Ewers, and count me in until I change my mind, but nevermind the concern about "helicopter dads" on this one. He's got a helicopter granddad, dad, and uncles. This dude will only be going somewhere in which he's all but assured of competing for the starting spot as a freshman, which really means they'll expect him to be starting as a freshman. If they come out soon and say otherwise, I'll be both surprised and pumped, because that could keep Texas in the running even if they land someone with high 4 or 5 stars.

[Barbacoa 1934]

I doubt these kids or their parents have any idea what the NIL stuff will actually mean. If I were recruiting against us, I would be trying to convince them that the real money will be in the exposure you get from playing in conference championships and playoff games.  

Also, social media fan engagement has gotta factor in somewhere and a kid like Stewart speaks that language. We are competitive in that space but not close to top dog. The numbers actually arent great for us if youre fighting for an absolutely elite kid that cares about that stuff. 

I'm sure our NIL pitch is excellent, but is it better than the current top recruiting dogs out there? Who knows. I think it's at least understandable how someone like Ewers' dad could look at the above numbers inside a recruiting pitch from the Ohio State staff, and buy into their argument that their program reloads while our program is trying to rebuild and that means they're a safer monetary bet for his son.

Edited February 10, 2021 by Barbacoa

[Thiefery 4942]

3 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

I doubt these kids or their parents have any idea what the NIL stuff will actually mean. If I were recruiting against us, I would be trying to convince them that the real money will be in the exposure you get from playing in conference championships and playoff games.  

Also, social media fan engagement has gotta factor in somewhere and a kid like Stewart speaks that language. We are competitive in that space but not close to top dog. The numbers actually arent great for us if youre fighting for an absolutely elite kid that cares about that stuff. 

I'm sure our NIL pitch is excellent, but is it better than the current top recruiting dogs out there? Who knows. I think it's at least understandable how someone like Ewers' dad could look at the above numbers inside a recruiting pitch from the Ohio State staff, and buy into their argument that their program reloads while our program is trying to rebuild and that means they're a safer monetary bet for his son.

There's no other place that has more of a polarizing position at QB than the University of Texas.  I currently live in VA and everyone brings up Sam (or Tom) when we make small conversations about my Texas gear.  Good or bad, everyone knows Sam.

[closetojumping 62033]

15 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Didnt we just learn that someone in the LJ recruitment managed to convince him NIL was a big advantage to going to aTm? Clearly there’s some message out there being used against us and we need to toss our biggest balls on the table and squash it. 

 

2 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Correct. SEC SEC SEC and all that.

To be clear, this kind of neg against the program will have a very short life. There is data out there around it and more being put together regarding impressional reach and impact from university brands, and forecasts, and so forth. Texas and a few others are inarguably head and shoulders above the pack. The SEC pitch right now and going forward will be about repetition of eyeballs and depth of coverage. However, that is somewhat isolated to a specific region, and that region isn't incredibly valued from a buying demographic perspective if you wish to be associated to premium and/or luxury brands. 

The other open issue that impacts NIL is where things go, if anywhere, with realignment. Texas is covered en masse when it sucks, and overcovered when it's on fire, so the brand and impact stand on their own, but any potential alignment towards a coast would be a pretty big fucking deal. 

I've been reading a lot on the NIL stuff, but the volume of content, and the categories of the content on this subject is currently overwhelming and much of it is inconclusive. One of the discussion items in articles going back to the beginning of this is that of the furthering of disparity in college sports. Oddly, there's less concern about what a 4 team playoff is doing to the sport than there is what NIL rights will do for certain schools.

Almost always, and I mean damned near everytime, in the examples of risk for unbridled NIL rights for players are Texas, USC, and Notre Dame. These are 2 down teams and another yoked to all kinds of circumstantial problems, yet they're what drives worry from both the media and the politicians, at least in interview exemplary form. My view is that the SEC and Big 10 remain pretty fucking good at manipulating the narratives. That shit is planted. Are Bama and Ohio State any different? Michigan? Not really, but let's not talk about that. They do not want those Texas, USC, and ND having unlimited rights for their players to leverage all assets and coverage, because in many minds, this shit will flat out dwarf what shithole schools like Auburn and Ole Miss are able to do for uncles with under the table dollars. For different reasons, Texas, USC, and Notre Dame will be disproportionately advantaged in NIL and I don't see how the sport is able to get around it. Nor do I want the sport to get around it.

[TommyGufano 6021]

11 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

I doubt these kids or their parents have any idea what the NIL stuff will actually mean. If I were recruiting against us, I would be trying to convince them that the real money will be in the exposure you get from playing in conference championships and playoff games.  

Also, social media fan engagement has gotta factor in somewhere and a kid like Stewart speaks that language. We are competitive in that space but not close to top dog. The numbers actually arent great for us if youre fighting for an absolutely elite kid that cares about that stuff. 

I'm sure our NIL pitch is excellent, but is it better than the current top recruiting dogs out there? Who knows. I think it's at least understandable how someone like Ewer's dad could look at the above numbers inside a recruiting pitch from the Ohio State staff, and buy into their argument that their program reloads while our program is trying to rebuild and that means they're a safer monetary bet for his son.

Could there be a less representative month than January? Of course the 2 teams who played in the only meaningful games separated from the pack. I don't follow this shit, so maybe it looks the same Feb-Dec, but I doubt it.

Edited February 10, 2021 by TommyGufano

[closetojumping 62033]

11 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

I doubt these kids or their parents have any idea what the NIL stuff will actually mean. If I were recruiting against us, I would be trying to convince them that the real money will be in the exposure you get from playing in conference championships and playoff games.  

Also, social media fan engagement has gotta factor in somewhere and a kid like Stewart speaks that language. We are competitive in that space but not close to top dog. The numbers actually arent great for us if youre fighting for an absolutely elite kid that cares about that stuff. 

I'm sure our NIL pitch is excellent, but is it better than the current top recruiting dogs out there? Who knows. I think it's at least understandable how someone like Ewers' dad could look at the above numbers inside a recruiting pitch from the Ohio State staff, and buy into their argument that their program reloads while our program is trying to rebuild and that means they're a safer monetary bet for his son.

Texas is the top dog in social media on an annualized basis, rivaled basically by Clemson. You took the single month in which 3 other teams played in the CFP and used it as a definitive premise, and that is incorrect. If you're going to take a position like that, do the work to verify it.

[Barbacoa 1934]

1 minute ago, TommyGufano said:

Could there be a less representative month than January? Of course the 2 teams who played in the only meaningful games separated from the pack. I don't follow this shit, so maybe it looks the same August-Dec, but I doubt it.

Yea keep in mind the coaches really dont know what the NIL will mean yet either. Its all smoke and mirrors, I'm just trying to come up with ways that they could use it against us. Those January numbers would demonstrate to recruits and their parents that playing in the playoff will make you money. 

[IDIOTsavant 8434]

From the same Twitter account for those interested:

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[Viper 11999]

16 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

I doubt these kids or their parents have any idea what the NIL stuff will actually mean. If I were recruiting against us, I would be trying to convince them that the real money will be in the exposure you get from playing in conference championships and playoff games.  

Also, social media fan engagement has gotta factor in somewhere and a kid like Stewart speaks that language. We are competitive in that space but not close to top dog. The numbers actually arent great for us if youre fighting for an absolutely elite kid that cares about that stuff. 

I'm sure our NIL pitch is excellent, but is it better than the current top recruiting dogs out there? Who knows. I think it's at least understandable how someone like Ewers' dad could look at the above numbers inside a recruiting pitch from the Ohio State staff, and buy into their argument that their program reloads while our program is trying to rebuild and that means they're a safer monetary bet for his son.

that's just for the month of Jan, where the only teams above us were still playing games, and we were completely turning over a coaching staff and part of the support staff.

[Thiefery 4942]

I wonder who is the one in charge to help the players on the team with the NIL..  Felt like BC was the one pushing it the most and had tweets/edits explaining why UT was the perfect place for it.  Big Tech companies relocating to Austin, SXSW and other music fests coming though every year, etc.

[Barbacoa 1934]

3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Texas is the top dog in social media on an annualized basis, rivaled basically by Clemson. You took the single month in which 3 other teams played in the CFP and used it as a definitive premise, and that is incorrect. If you're going to take a position like that, do the work to verify it.

I'm not taking a position, I'm trying to demonstrate how a program like Bama or Ohio State could try to use the NIL against us. The whole thing is a grey area right now, so I could easily see piece-meal data like January's social media numbers being used to represent their NIL value over us. That's a strong image and these arent typically MBA students they're pitching to. 

[texifornia 56302]

5 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

I wonder who is the one in charge to help the players on the team with the NIL..  Felt like BC was the one pushing it the most and had tweets/edits explaining why UT was the perfect place for it.  Big Tech companies relocating to Austin, SXSW and other music fests coming though every year, etc.

Sounds like a Director of Player Personnel would be real useful

[Machinator 32097]

Gerry Hamilton: IT Recruiting Matters: Murphy/Cali recruiting, Citizen, Trevell and DL updates

Spoiler

The Texas staff has seemingly zeroed in on three quarterbacks in the class of 2022 in Ohio State verbal Quinn Ewers, strong-armed Maalik Murphy out of California, and Westlake's Cade Klubnik. With decision day getting closer at the position, Steve Sarkisian and staff are in a position to navigate the process and timeline.

In today’s Recruiting Matters, IT looks at the potential impact of Murphy on Texas, getting to know TreVonte’ Citizen, and the latest on defensive line recruiting.

Murphy about to pop?
Junipero Serra pocket passer Maalik Murphy is closing in on a decision as early as this weekend or early next week. The 6-foot-4.5, near 230-pounder has programs such as Oregon and UCLA under serious consideration along with Texas, but it’s the Longhorns offensive scheme under Steve Sarkisian that is likely to win out should Murphy beat the other QBs to the punch in the next few days.

Murphy’s recruitment has been slowed by not having a junior season on the field to date. He played in five games as a sophomore battling through injury and backing up a Group of 5 signee. Murphy completed 44.8% of his attempts (26 of 58) for 305 yards and no touchdowns with two interceptions.

Should Murphy pick Texas, the Longhorns staff will likely look to add Mater Dei wide receiver C.J. Williams and versatile ATH Larry Turner-Gooden into the fold out of California. The near 6-foot-2, 195-pound Williams is among the very best possession receiver prospects in the 2022 class with better short area quickness than speed, while Turner-Gooden is a terrific defensive back prospect that could also get a serious look at receiver. The 5-foot-11 Turner-Gooden has an exceptional wingspan at his height of 77-inches, along with a sub 4.2 laser shuttle.

Getting to know Citizen:
2022 Lake Charles (LA) College Prep RB TreVonte’ Citizen has quickly become one of the top targets for the offensive staff. The 6-foot-0, 215-pound back was offered by the Longhorns January 29, and now has Texas under serious consideration.

“Right now, I’m just taking my time and looking at the schools that have offered me,” said Citizen Tuesday night. “I don’t really have a top school right now, I’m just looking at my options. If I was to make a list of top schools, it would be LSU, Texas, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Colorado and Georgia Tech,”

Whether it’s the offer from Texas, the January 28 offer from Texas A&M, or any others, programs face the task of beating out the dream school from within the Boot.

“To be real, it was a dream of mine to play at LSU. As I’ve got older, I’m thinking about all my options and looking at recruiting and my decision as business,”

When talking about Texas, the powerful back with very good feet is learning more by the day.

“I like Texas. I like their program. I’m learning more about the program. Coach Stan Drayton and Coach Sarkisian said they like my game, my playing style, competitiveness, and talk about improving as a player and building on my talent,”

Citizen told IT that he currently plans to wait until his senior year to make decision, and admits that an offer from Alabama would change his recruitment.

The Pelican State back is currently in track season and will run the 100m, 200m, 400m, 4x100, and the 4x200 with goals of a 10.9 in 100m and a 22.0 in 200,.

His father played running back for McNeese.

Next to commit?
Arlington Martin linebacker Trevell Johnson will announce his decision on Saturday with a time TBD. The 6-foot-1, near 200-pound hard-hitting defender with the ability to call the defense had the Longhorns in the lead prior to the coaching change. The new Texas staff, behind the work of Bo Davis and Jeff Banks, have helped the Longhorns surge once again. This is a recruitment the staff has to close out, and should come the weekend.

Defensive line recruiting taking shape:
The Texas Longhorns most recent class of 2022 offer on the defensive line was EDGE prospect D.J. Wesolak out of Missouri.

If the Longhorns are to offer another out of state prospect on the line, it very well could be DE/T Tyre West out of Tift County. The Georgia verbal is a long shot, at best.

Inside the state, Texas continues to covet Georgia verbal Bear Alexander, Jaray Bledsoe, and Kristopher Ross at defensive tackle. Omari Abor and Ernest Cooper IV are the DEs high on the board.

Of the five in-state offers, IT can’t say that Texas has the lead in any of them, but is very much in the hunt. Alexander picked Georgia over Texas, Texas A&M and Ohio State. Bledsoe will have Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma and Alabama as the main players more than likely, and Ross has Texas and Oklahoma at the top. Abor is Ohio State over Oklahoma and Texas currently, while Cooper remains a Stanford lean.

The Longhorns have also evaluated DTs Jadon Scarlett and Tre Emory, and DE Michael Ibukun-Okeyode. This trio of prospects will be monitored.

 

[JesusSweatDuck 17780]

4 hours ago, Napoleon said:

What grade was this from?

8th?

12 yr olds are in 6th or 7th

[SydneyCarton 47809]

34 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

I doubt these kids or their parents have any idea what the NIL stuff will actually mean. If I were recruiting against us, I would be trying to convince them that the real money will be in the exposure you get from playing in conference championships and playoff games.  

Also, social media fan engagement has gotta factor in somewhere and a kid like Stewart speaks that language. We are competitive in that space but not close to top dog. The numbers actually arent great for us if youre fighting for an absolutely elite kid that cares about that stuff. 

I'm sure our NIL pitch is excellent, but is it better than the current top recruiting dogs out there? Who knows. I think it's at least understandable how someone like Ewers' dad could look at the above numbers inside a recruiting pitch from the Ohio State staff, and buy into their argument that their program reloads while our program is trying to rebuild and that means they're a safer monetary bet for his son.

 

23 minutes ago, TommyGufano said:

Could there be a less representative month than January? Of course the 2 teams who played in the only meaningful games separated from the pack. I don't follow this shit, so maybe it looks the same Feb-Dec, but I doubt it.

I'm quoting these two, but in reality this is just a general comment on the NIL stuff. As other posters have mentioned, singling out January is a giant fucking mistake in the sample data. I can't pull it up, but we've all seen other various graphics and 3rd party data that pretty much show that Texas is still the top dog in the social shares arena, and all of the predictive mechanisms for the NIL stuff overall. I haven't read into the national brand/reach stuff like CTJ has, but that is pretty adjacent to his daily grind so if he says it, in this instance, I'd believe it. For the rest of us, you really don't have to go much further than common sense to see baseline foundation of why Texas is going to be able to pistol whip the competition unless we find a way to actively fuck ourselves in the ass with a fistful of dirty syringes.  Everyone here remembers the graphic we saw a year or two ago estimating that Ehlinger could have pulled in about 300k a year in endorsements with NIL stuff, right? 

It's a pretty easy equation. Austin is home to UT, it's the largest city in the United States without a major sports franchise, and it's a community that Bleeds Orange, but ALSO happens to quite flush with various tech and creative money. It's also spitting distance within 3 of the largest 10 cities in the United States, in a state that also happens to be football crazy. It's a popular hub with young people and tech savvy folks so the spread impact of leveraging social is great. Yada Yada Yada. I'm sorry, but Dell and Tesla and dozens upon dozens of other options create greater advertising opportunities and the fucking Dixie Chicken and a rural population in the I Don't Give A Fuck But It's Tiny range. No one else can offer that. 

The entire State of Nebraska fits the bill, but where is the money network? College Station I just addressed. Notre Dame has a different set of advantages that honestly operates somewhat independently of this, but ok. And that's before we even leverage brand exposure, national alumni network, international presence (I bet games being played internationally might become a bigger deal, give us those Chinese dollars). There is no place like Austin, period. 

Edited February 10, 2021 by SydneyCarton

[Sbbruin 21690]

2 hours ago, Zhorn96 said:

Sour grapes coming from a UCLA fan is the least surprising thing ever.  Their fan base is the biggest bunch of whiny bitches on the west coast.  Somehow think their Wooden era basketball cheating glory makes them relevant in football.

And Chuck Muncie should’ve curb stomped Archie Griffin in Griffins 2nd win.  Muncie was an absolute fuck beast that year.  Totally dominant.

 

[JPETERMAN 111]

I don't think anyone truly knows how the NIL stuff is going to evolve.  But I'm sure Alabama was at the forefront of it like everything else.  If Sark was truly in training there under the wing of Saban, then I think that plays to our advantage as he should know how to sell it as well as anyone else in the country.

[closetohumping 17355]

13 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

12 yr olds are in 6th or 7th

Tell that to Doogie Howser

[Hiphopopotamos 20862]

12 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Tell that to Doogie Howser

Doogie was a punk.  Janice is the OG

Edited February 10, 2021 by Hiphopopotamos

[The Ghost of Hau Pham 41]

People have allegedly and bizarrely made an NIL argument to Stewart in a way designed to give pause to making Texas his choice. That’s a bold choice and I’m interested in seeing how it works out. He allegedly isn’t looking for some illicit payday when he projects to make way more on his own based on his already large follower volume and preternatural media savvy. 

So I know I’m projecting a little bit here, but perhaps the argument being made to someone like Stewart is maybe that since he already has 1m+ followers on TikTok, the way he’ll probably grow his brand is less from football fan interactions on Twitter and more from just access to great content opportunities found in big cities with lots of potential collaborators.

In my mind, the only place superior to Austin in terms of a blue blood football program plus a great city would potentially be the LA area? Austin has a pretty high concentration of social media influencers, and I think both TikTok (potentially) and Twitch (confirmed) are considering expanding their office support (and by extension opportunities for their content creators), but LA and California in general has an insane concentration of influencers and social media platform support.

I think the only school this sort of pitch would work for is probably USC and it could potentially work for UCLA down the line. From my knowledge of his recruitment, it doesn’t seem like USC was a part of his thinking, but with Carrington moving there you never know?

If it’s literally any other school pitching him this then I’m not sure it makes sense at all.

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Texas has been at the leading edge of the entire NIL movement with LEVERAGE and the associated programs, well in front of almost everyone including Alabama. This (LJJ and the current talk) is simply the outcome of an unforced error on Texas' part. When you are fighting with one hand tied behind your back for weeks at a time you are going to take damage. The lack of movement in front officer personnel has fallout, and this is it. 

Texas NIL impact FAAARRRRRRR outpaces anything that aggy can put together in Lit Station (even with ESS EEE CEE). The fact that they haven't articulated that properly falls squarely on the coaching staff, exacerbated by the lack of front office personnel. 

 

Edited February 10, 2021 by golfclap