Texas Recruiting Notes 2022 - Idiotic Slapfights Unrelated To 2022 Recruiting

[ousux 5597]

Pay the 30k then if you are the richest athletic dept. 

Hang on, I'll go see if Plonsky will cut a check. Brb

[6th Street 6414]

If his price is only $30k the we'd be stupid not to get involved. Didn't Ricky Seals Jones sign for like $100k?

[Newy25 7693]

2 minutes ago, maninblack said:

The OSU coaches are not happy about the situation

Not happy with the fact that Ewers jumped to college early then signed a deal and announced it? Or something else? 

[Barbacoa 1934]

"Involved" LA buddy tells me he will be shocked if Tapp doesnt end up at LSU, but that Texas is announcing itself in the SEC. He reached out to me bc he knew I would be happy to hear we are officially on the scene. He thinks Bryant will stick and is underrated. He says he has no clue on Preston. Agrees we are the team to beat for Arch. He says we are going to be able to launch a massive SEC recruiting campaign if we get him in the fold and recruiting for us. 

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

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[SydneyCarton 48110]

1 hour ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

Real fishy. If you remember originally Clemson was the leader, so hes gone from Clemson to Texas to Oregon to now aggy

It's not fishy, it's a pattern.

 

 

57 minutes ago, Bamboozled73 said:

Pay the 30k then if you are the richest athletic dept. 

I'm sorry, even if you're a program that cheats, are you under the impression that the money to do so comes from the Athletic Department of the school? Username is spot on. 

[NoName 16354]

1 hour ago, Sir Ulrich said:

If you have followed at least one cycle when Jimbo has been at a&m it is clear that when a WR starts trending that way without an injury or bad season then they have a handler. This isnt't rocket science just takes a lick of common sense. 

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In general if you are a blue chip WR and go play under Jimbo Fisher, you are going to under perform compared to your contemporaries. You will play less snaps, catch fewer balls for fewer yards and fewer TDs.

anyone acting like they are going to go and play as a true freshman in a Jimbo Fisher offense is fooling themselves.

 

 

[tokamak 6431]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

His younger brother, Micah Bell, is a 2023 On3 Top 100 player.

Today I learned that Kincaid has a football team. Is their team bus a Rolls Royce?

[Hookem2147 21339]

18 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

"Involved" LA buddy tells me he will be shocked if Tapp doesnt end up at LSU, but that Texas is announcing itself in the SEC. He reached out to me bc he knew I would be happy to hear we are officially on the scene. He thinks Bryant will stick and is underrated. He says he has no clue on Preston. Agrees we are the team to beat for Arch. He says we are going to be able to launch a massive SEC recruiting campaign if we get him in the fold and recruiting for us. 

There is a decent chance Tapp does end up at LSU but would much rather have him committed right now than be uncommitted and still chasing after him. Bo Davis has shown he isn't afraid to play the SEC recruiting game.

[Elmer_Fudd 22283]

16 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

"Involved" LA buddy tells me he will be shocked if Tapp doesnt end up at LSU, but that Texas is announcing itself in the SEC. He reached out to me bc he knew I would be happy to hear we are officially on the scene. He thinks Bryant will stick and is underrated. He says he has no clue on Preston. Agrees we are the team to beat for Arch. He says we are going to be able to launch a massive SEC recruiting campaign if we get him in the fold and recruiting for us. 

Yeah, not to go all satya or bruh man, but it'll be a surprise if Tapp ends up here.  What we need to hope for is for them to lose to UCLA Saturday, win a few, lose to Bama', Florida, and one of the Miss. schools, and close out the year beating aggy.

[Tex-19 2872]

15 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

"Involved" LA buddy tells me he will be shocked if Tapp doesnt end up at LSU, but that Texas is announcing itself in the SEC. He reached out to me bc he knew I would be happy to hear we are officially on the scene. He thinks Bryant will stick and is underrated. He says he has no clue on Preston. Agrees we are the team to beat for Arch. He says we are going to be able to launch a massive SEC recruiting campaign if we get him in the fold and recruiting for us. 

By "announcing itself in the SEC", do you mean they're telling recruits we're moving soon, or just that we're targeting SEC territory recruits and having some success? 

I'm somewhat skeptical on Tapp sticking with us tbh but we'll see. Arch would be huge for recruiting, no doubt about it.

[Hank_Hill 18880]

Does Tapp not have a commitable offer to LSU currently or something?

[Mason Ramsey 3385]

3 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Yeah, not to go all satya or bruh man, but it'll be a surprise if Tapp ends up here.  What we need to hope for is for them to lose to UCLA Saturday, win a few, lose to Bama', Florida, and one of the Miss. schools, and close out the year beating aggy.

 

2 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

By "announcing itself in the SEC", do you mean they're telling recruits we're moving soon, or just that we're targeting SEC territory recruits and having some success? 

I'm somewhat skeptical on Tapp sticking with us tbh but we'll see. Arch would be huge for recruiting, no doubt about it.

Pussies

[texifornia 57001]

1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

Does Tapp not have a commitable offer to LSU currently or something?

It's commitable. It's about holding on through sustained pressure from the dirtiest program there is in terms of putting the clamps on local kids's lives.

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

2 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Does Tapp not have a commitable offer to LSU currently or something?

LSU doesn’t let those kind of guys leave the state. Especially being from Baton Rouge area

[Hank_Hill 18880]

They’ve gotta be running out of administrative positions for relatives by now. Fuck’em.

[Getafix 28682]

21 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Yeah, not to go all satya or bruh man, but it'll be a surprise if Tapp ends up here.  What we need to hope for is for them to lose to UCLA Saturday, win a few, lose to Bama', Florida, and one of the Miss. schools, and close out the year beating aggy.

 

 

 

[Lonestar88 4697]

3 hours ago, texifornia said:

He's got a handler

 

2 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

The "Thompson wants to stay close to home" narratives are funny. He was headed to Oregon before they ran out of WR spots. Surprise surprise that A&M is now in the picture. 

Favoring Oregon and now A&M entering the picture should tell you all you need to know about what it will take to land Thompson. 

 

2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Can't recall if it was CTJ or someone else said he has a handler and there is a $30k fee for his commitment.  

 

1 hour ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

Real fishy. If you remember originally Clemson was the leader, so hes gone from Clemson to Texas to Oregon to now aggy

 

1 hour ago, Sir Ulrich said:

If you have followed at least one cycle when Jimbo has been at a&m it is clear that when a WR starts trending that way without an injury or bad season then they have a handler. This isnt't rocket science just takes a lick of common sense. 

At some point we’re going to have to stop pissing ourselves every time the possibility of a handler pops up.

[texifornia 57001]

1 minute ago, Lonestar88 said:

 

 

 

 

At some point we’re going to have to stop pissing ourselves every time the possibility of a handler pops up.

At some point UT needs to start winning recruitments where there's a middleman.

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

2 minutes ago, Lonestar88 said:

 

 

 

 

At some point we’re going to have to stop pissing ourselves every time the possibility of a handler pops up.

Please see below….

Just now, texifornia said:

At some point UT needs to start winning recruitments where there's a middleman.

And if we don’t we’re going to be in for a bad time in the SEC. 

[Laga4 1270]

53 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Not happy with the fact that Ewers jumped to college early then signed a deal and announced it? Or something else? 

I was talking to a guy about that yesterday.  I don't think they were happy with him coming early.  

Don't think OSU cared about the deal that much,  but they are in pretty much of a lose lose situation with the roster.  No way they could have started the year with Ewers,  and unless Stroud is really bad he won't start anytime this year without causing some team disruption.  

Edited September 1, 2021 by Laga4

[Lonestar88 4697]

7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Please see below….

And if we don’t we’re going to be in for a bad time in the SEC. 

Yeah, with NIL and a move to the SEC coming up, if we’re still worried about handlers in a few years, this whole thing will be an abject failure and we’re all wasting our time. Especially if that handler is only asking for 30k. That’s not even that bad.

Edited September 1, 2021 by Lonestar88

[UncleBuck 6454]

5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Please see below….

And if we don’t we’re going to be in for a bad time in the SEC. 

Yah, not sure he got it the first time when he was directly quoted with it holy hell you savages.

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

Just now, Lonestar88 said:

Yeah that’s the point. With NIL and a move to the SEC coming up, if we’re still worried  about handlers in a few years, this whole thing will be an abject failure and we’re all wasting our time. Especially if that handler is only asking for 30k. That’s not even that bad.

I personally don’t think handlers will go away. I think they will be there for certain recruits. So we either need to go all in on the SEC move or risk falling further behind. 

[UncleBuck 6454]

2 minutes ago, Lonestar88 said:

Yeah, with NIL and a move to the SEC coming up, if we’re still worried about handlers in a few years, this whole thing will be an abject failure and we’re all wasting our time. Especially if that handler is only asking for 30k. That’s not even that bad.

But but I thought NIL was gunna kill all of this need for handlers and bags etc...

 

mmhmm

Edited September 1, 2021 by UncleBuck

[Lonestar88 4697]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I personally don’t think handlers will go away. I think they will be there for certain recruits. So we either need to go all in on the SEC move or risk falling further behind. 

We are agreeing, but I don’t think you realize it. May be bad communication on my  part.

1 minute ago, UncleBuck said:

But but I thought NIL was gunna kill all of this need for handlers and bags etc...

 

mmhmm

Bag money is still the easiest money.

[UncleBuck 6454]

Just now, Lonestar88 said:

 

Bag money is still the easiest money.

Damn right.

[Laga4 1270]

Agree that the handlers won't go away,  at least not for a while.  A lot guys are going to feel more comfortable with a street guy or an uncle.

Once they figure out a real agent can get them more money then the handlers will probably fade away. 

[Bevo 13579]

1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

They’ve gotta be running out of administrative positions for relatives by now. Fuck’em.

Yeah, but they can still put pressure on mom at work and promotion if her son commits.

[Barbacoa 1934]

46 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

By "announcing itself in the SEC", do you mean they're telling recruits we're moving soon, or just that we're targeting SEC territory recruits and having some success? 

I'm somewhat skeptical on Tapp sticking with us tbh but we'll see. Arch would be huge for recruiting, no doubt about it.

It means we have joined the same fight that they have been waging against each other in the SEC for all this time. The NIL is great and I hope we get our act together (major credit to this website) but the old way of doing things isnt disappearing any time soon. Texas has to cover all the bases and this guy tells me our future competitors are aware that we intend to compete on all fronts. 

[Mitch Cumsteen 18550]

4 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Yeah, but they can still put pressure on mom at work and promotion if her son commits.

Now this is something that NIL could actually positively impact. 

[JesusSweatDuck 17784]

34 minutes ago, Lonestar88 said:

We are agreeing, but I don’t think you realize it. May be bad communication on my  part.

Bag money is still the easiest money.

Bag money is the tax free money

[Barbacoa 1934]

I do think eventually the NIL will eclipse the bag game but it's going to take years. 

[Pato del Muerto 52525]

6 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

Bag money is the tax free money

Nil money goes to the player. Bag money as often as not goes to the handler. Handlers won’t be going oh well it was good while it lasted, they’ll be fighting to keep that model. 

[tokamak 6431]

50 minutes ago, Laga4 said:

I was talking to a guy about that yesterday.  I don't think they were happy with him coming early.  

Don't think OSU cared about the deal that much,  but they are in pretty much of a lose lose situation with the roster.  No way they could have started the year with Ewers,  and unless Stroud is really bad he won't start anytime this year without causing some team disruption.  

Yeah sounds like a huge problem. Too many 5* QBs and one might get mad. Hope poor tOSU can figure it out.

[Hornlover 8830]

15 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

Bag money is the tax free money

Bag Money is also the "doing time for money laundering" money.

[mwaadeeb 1221]

6 minutes ago, Hornlover said:

Bag Money is also the "doing time for money laundering" money.

Yep assuming they will have to strictly report NIL and do tax returns (for the 1st time, you'd think), bag money becomes less appealing.

Not doing taxes / not reporting income is different than doing taxes and lying about income. 

[Thiefery 5012]

3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

In terms of being 1.000 and the drop from there to .9999 to .9996 and etc is quite drastic in the likliehood.

Would Ewers have finished at a perfect ranking had he played his SR season?  

[Scholz 11944]

5 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

Would Ewers have finished at a perfect ranking had he played his SR season?  

No he would've lost to Cade Klubnik again.

[UncleBuck 6454]

9 minutes ago, Scholz said:

No he would've lost to Cade Klubnik again.

IF he didn't lose his job to that back-up first RIGHT!?

[closetohumping 17449]

42 minutes ago, Hornlover said:

Bag Money is also the "doing time for money laundering" money.

In minimum security prison.  The ones with conjugal visits

[JesusSweatDuck 17784]

30 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

In minimum security prison.  The ones with conjugal visits

[Michael Knight 12988]

Handlers will just become officially registered agents and get a cut of their promotional deals

[UTEX90 589]

11 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Maybe a few.   Most will continue to be off the books crooks.   The Bishop Sycamore guy could have started a real school or gotten a real job, too.  But some people are just wired to be grifters even if they have other options.  And I’d wager the “recruiting street agent / handler” game has many more of those people than it does guys who will register to go legit, even if it’s not hard to do.

But the incentive for players to cut them in will be diminished.  They need handlers to cut the bag deals.  The don't need handlers to cut the NIL deals.

[The Earl of Texas 3132]

23 minutes ago, UTEX90 said:

But the incentive for players to cut them in will be diminished.  They need handlers to cut the bag deals.  The don't need handlers to cut the NIL deals.

Whoever hired Willie Lyles back in the day was WAY ahead of the game! Internal Director of Bags. 

[Hornlover 8830]

24 minutes ago, UTEX90 said:

But the incentive for players to cut them in will be diminished.  They need handlers to cut the bag deals.  The don't need handlers to cut the NIL deals.

[Ricky's one-hitter 9117]

4 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

They find their way in with people who let them because they either feel overwhelmed or they just don’t know better.

Or because they're family.

 

49 minutes ago, UTEX90 said:

But the incentive for players to cut them in will be diminished.  They need handlers to cut the bag deals.  The don't need handlers to cut the NIL deals.

I agree with this except I have a hard time seeing many 16/17 year old kids telling adults to fuck off. Especially family or slick trainers ingratiating themselves with parents that need short term help. Bags will always exist in the right scenario because shady grifters will always exist. It's just not the only game in town anymore. 

[UTEX90 589]

14 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Boxers didn’t really need Don King or [insert your shady handler here], either.  And recruits didn’t really need their “uncle” to run bag games before NIL.  No con artist is ever really needed.  They find their way in with people who let them because they either feel overwhelmed or they just don’t know better.

While I don't disagree with your last sentence.  I still think it will diminish greatly.   They may still have an uncle but they will have to go get NIL deals instead of bags.  Also your analogy is terrible.  Don King monopolized the high dollar matchups in boxing and it killed the sport.  They needed him to make money. 

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

2 minutes ago, UTEX90 said:

While I don't disagree with your last sentence.  I still think it will diminish greatly.   They may still have an uncle but they will have to go get NIL deals instead of bags.  Also your analogy is terrible.  Don King monopolized the high dollar matchups in boxing and it killed the sport.  They needed him to make money. 

See rickys one hitter last paragraph. I think that combines with the post you quoted is exactly why that will exist

[Barbacoa 1934]

There is a ton of hesitation from above board dealers about this NIL stuff. More than anything, there has always been a big fear that the weight of the UT machine will come down on you if you screw the pooch and tarnish the lily white brand that is Texas. 
 

Belmont is trying to monitor, but they don’t want Texas to be the guinea pig. While I understand that, I think we could easily get away with being the “Yankees” who stress test every possible advantage the new system could give us. We could easily set the market on this stuff but that’s just not the mentality.

There is no question that the word is going to get back to them that this site took the leap and directly improved the program. Banks will shout it from the rooftops and I think @immamac and @RGBIII chose wisely with the TE’s. As of now, an employed interfacing fundraiser for the program didn’t even know it was happening. I had to send him the link, and shocker, he loves it.