Texas Recruiting Notes 2022 - Idiotic Slapfights Unrelated To 2022 Recruiting

[Burt Macklin 19230]

1 minute ago, UTEE97 said:

Wow, how did we miss so badly in the 2019 class? This is just comical!

About half those guys were backup plans after Jimbo wiped the floor with Herman on in-state recruits. Very highly-rated backup plans, but backup plans nonetheless. 

[Valmy77 13626]

3 hours ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

Good point. Ultimately blue chips is how you win natty's but its ignorant to think its the end all be all when we have lost games to Iowa state, Maryland, Kansas, and k state in the past decade. Sark will be successful or unsuccessful based on how he coaches, our last two coaches were simply good recruiters. His biggest issue will be whether or not the fanbase will give him time.

He will get three years at a minimum. 

[golfclap 6903]

19 hours ago, TexasRenegade said:

So what.....Recruits, CTJ, and Golfclap are now like Texas High School coaches who get their feelings hurt when Texas goes out of state for better talent?? Seriously?  You two have cried for years for Texas to be more national in it's recruiting.  Sark is doing that and suddenly it's a negative?

Ya'll flip flop worse than NBA players...

WTF are you smoking? IDGAF where the players are from and certainly have never said we shouldn't be in California. Quite the opposite, I've said that we should treat Southern California like an extension of Texas and make it a constant home. We should have a constant presence in that region and should have for decades. There should be kids growing up and waiting to be offered by Texas like a greater Houston or golden triangle kid. You'd be hard-pressed to find a bigger advocate for recruiting that region in our fan base. 

Can you not understand that taking Murphy is a risk/reward proposition and that was the discussion? And that his singular recruitment doesn't throw the entire west coast philosophy into the ocean?  One of the impacts that we discussed at length when he committed was that the skill players in this state don't have an existing relationship with him, nor do they have a grasp on his mentality, his skillset, his personality, etc ... I said that it was going to create problems with momentum and retention - and it has. This staff has decided that his upside is worth the downside of the loss of momentum and retention of players (specifically WR/TE) in this class. That's the extent of the conversation. Boiled down it's simply that if we had taken an in-state QB there would be more momentum with the in-state kids that have played with or against them for 10+ years. 

[elguapo 4620]

27 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Wow, how did we miss so badly in the 2019 class? This is just comical!

[SarkAfterDark 1749]

24 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Wow, how did we miss so badly in the 2019 class? This is just comical!

Everybody was pretty excited about everyone of those commits. They weren’t considered misses then. We’ve had a huge development problem for years that has stretched across staffs. I’m hoping we’ve come to the end of this trend. But at this point I find it hard to care about recruit rankings and where this class falls especially since we’ve been beat by enough teams we out recruit over the years.

[JesusSweatDuck 18119]

40 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Wow, how did we miss so badly in the 2019 class? This is just comical!

What the hell happened to Tyler Owens?  He was a force in HS but has completely disappeared.

[closetojumping 65439]

2 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

What the hell happened to Tyler Owens?  He was a force in HS but has completely disappeared.

I don't expect him to "completely disappear" until this offseason, actually.

[UncleBuck 6455]

13 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

Everybody was pretty excited about everyone of those commits. They weren’t considered misses then. We’ve had a huge development problem for years that has stretched across staffs. I’m hoping we’ve come to the end of this trend. But at this point I find it hard to care about recruit rankings and where this class falls especially since we’ve been beat by enough teams we out recruit over the years.

Wish I could like this post more than once. If the new staff can identify the right guys and coach the shit out of them, that's heads and shoulders above what has been going on at Texas for over a decade. Then the next level can open.

[UncleBuck 6455]

1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

I don't expect him to "completely disappear" until this offseason, actually.

Sad

[JesusSweatDuck 18119]

3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I don't expect him to "completely disappear" until this offseason, actually.

That's unfortunate.  He was a missile flying around in HS.  I guess he never adjusted his game.

[Hookem2147 22036]

52 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Wow, how did we miss so badly in the 2019 class? This is just comical!

Some terrible outside-of-football evals in that class. McCoy and Smith were looking to transfer from the moment they stepped on campus, Kenyatta Watson's dad was about as helicopter as they come, Javonne Shepherd was in that class, Caleb Johnson and Juwan Mitchell were our JUCO LB saviors.  

[sith_horn 2518]

39 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Some terrible outside-of-football evals in that class. McCoy and Smith were looking to transfer from the moment they stepped on campus, Kenyatta Watson's dad was about as helicopter as they come, Javonne Shepherd was in that class, Caleb Johnson and Juwan Mitchell were our JUCO LB saviors.  

Let's not forget the effect of injuries and medical issues on attrition and/or lack of development. DeGabriel Floyd, Whittington, Liebrock, Smith, Tillman, Mpagi, Derrian Brown.

[UTPhil2006 3930]

On 9/21/2021 at 10:54 AM, closetojumping said:

-There's some legitimacy to the Brockermeyer stuff, but that shit seems farfetched and a long walk from here. 

What is the story behind this. Can’t find anything on it 

[Burt Macklin 19230]

54 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Some terrible outside-of-football evals in that class. McCoy and Smith were looking to transfer from the moment they stepped on campus, Kenyatta Watson's dad was about as helicopter as they come, Javonne Shepherd was in that class, Caleb Johnson and Juwan Mitchell were our JUCO LB saviors.  

To be fair, Juwan Mitchell was also a terrible inside-of-football eval, and then Herman and Orlando had the wisdom to run off the JUCO LB that was actually good at football before he ever played a down to make sure we were left with absolutely nothing at the position since Orlando hadn’t bothered to offer anyone the previous 18 months. 

[Dbeasy 15596]

Owens was a take purely on his numbers. I’ve gotten more skeptical about those types of picks. The fast wide receiver from a few years ago that blew up late because of his forty time picked Alabama and has since transferred. Can’t recall his name. 

[Fondren & Main 6903]

8 minutes ago, UTPhil2006 said:

What is the story behind this. Can’t find anything on it 

The story is that Luke is starting and the head coach isn't a cocksucker.  That's it, that's the rumor.

[Bob Lives! 952]

13 minutes ago, UTPhil2006 said:

What is the story behind this. Can’t find anything on it 

The "story" is there's no sign of a Brockermeyer on any depth chart outside of Austin.  That's the whole story. The rest is probably just wishful thinking. 

[HtownHorn 15235]

1 hour ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

What the hell happened to Tyler Owens?  He was a force in HS but has completely disappeared.

It takes more than being really fast and really big in college to succeed.

[Atticus 4218]

9 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Owens was a take purely on his numbers. I’ve gotten more skeptical about those types of picks. The fast wide receiver from a few years ago that blew up late because of his forty time picked Alabama and has since transferred. Can’t recall his name. 

Tyrell Shavers

[HtownHorn 15235]

15 minutes ago, UTPhil2006 said:

What is the story behind this. Can’t find anything on it 

There was a rumor on IT from a few weeks ago that there were 2 offensive and 1 defensive guy looking to portal to Texas. I jokingly added that the two offensive could be related to a certain break out LB on the Texas defense.

[ClubWhatever 12312]

1 hour ago, UncleBuck said:

Wish I could like this post more than once.

Undo your first like.  Then like it again.  You’re welcome. 

[satyanash 15610]

21 hours ago, Hornlover said:

There sure is a shit-ton of angst for a recruiting class currently ranked 3rd on 247.

So does "It's only [insert month here]!!!" only apply when we're making excuses for recruiting losses? This is a myopic take.

[JesusSweatDuck 18119]

26 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Owens was a take purely on his numbers. I’ve gotten more skeptical about those types of picks. The fast wide receiver from a few years ago that blew up late because of his forty time picked Alabama and has since transferred. Can’t recall his name. 

That's the big difference between Bama and UT.  Bama will trap door those flyers that don't work out.  Somehow we keep them on campus for 4-6 years.

[Ricky Butler 2809]

1 minute ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

That's the big difference between Bama and UT.

Well that and every other member of 'Bama's class is a 5-star.

[D3zii 3939]

 

 

I leave for a days and come back to a melt down.. . . 
 

 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20926]

29 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

That's the big difference between Bama and UT.  Bama will trap door those flyers that don't work out.  Somehow we keep them on campus for 4-6 years.

Judging from the 2018-2019 classes, this isn't true.

Also, I just checked and Kenyatta Watson is not on Georgia Tech's 2-deep. 

[Hookem2147 22036]

4 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Judging from the 2018-2019 classes, this isn't true.

Also, I just checked and Kenyatta Watson is not on Georgia Tech's 2-deep. 

He’ll transfer again to FSU assuming his dad is still employed there after this year.

[Hookem2147 22036]

Roach said he is also hearing TCU is surging for Guilbeau

[Dr. Teeth 5868]

Surging! They all make this up as they go along. 

[Lonestar88 5175]

12 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Judging from the 2018-2019 classes, this isn't true.

Also, I just checked and Kenyatta Watson is not on Georgia Tech's 2-deep. 

I don’t think Watson is playing much, but Georgia Tech does not release a 2 deep. They instead just release an “Above the Line” roster, that lists all the players who are “ready to play” in no particular order and Watson is on that.
 

It’s stupid and the coach seems like a pain in the ass.

[Barbacoa 1934]

There’s movement behind the scenes with getting Harris to hold off. I don’t know what it is exactly, but perhaps Guilbeau got wind of it through Fat Pat. Just speculation since TCU negative recruits the shit out of us.

[satyanash 15610]

11 minutes ago, Dr. Teeth said:

Surging! They all make this up as they go along. 

maybe he means TCU is a coiled spring subject to forced oscillation

[Lonestar88 5175]

16 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Roach said he is also hearing TCU is surging for Guilbeau

 

13 minutes ago, Dr. Teeth said:

Surging! They all make this up as they go along. 

Long trends matter, but I don’t  know how anyone takes day-to-day recruiting reporting seriously.

[Hookem2147 22036]

1 minute ago, Barbacoa said:

There’s movement behind the scenes with getting Harris to hold off. I don’t know what it is exactly, but perhaps Guilbeau got wind of it through Fat Pat. Just speculation since TCU negative recruits the shit out of us.

There’s movement behind the scenes with getting Denver Harris to hold off? And Guilbeau would know about this and it would change this desire to come to Texas?

[Barbacoa 1934]

2 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

There’s movement behind the scenes with getting Denver Harris to hold off? And Guilbeau would know about this and it would change this desire to come to Texas?

I think that’s a good guess. How did we get him to hold off?

[Hiphopopotamos 21191]

7 minutes ago, Barbacoa said:

I think that’s a good guess. How did we get him to hold off?

Two words. 
 

Kia Sedona. 

[Radical Larry 28822]

Just now, Hiphopopotamos said:

Two words. 
 

Kia Sedona. 

[Etexhorn13 3100]

I can’t wait to rid ourselves of this conference if for nothing else than to put more proximity between us and Fat Pat and his bullshit. Have fun with relegation, cockroach. 

[Leanderman 2367]

Does Phat Pat do any positive recruiting? All I ever hear about his the crap he talks about other teams?

[Etexhorn13 3100]

Just now, Leanderman said:

Does Phat Pat do any positive recruiting? All I ever hear about his the crap he talks about other teams?

How the fuck you gonna positively recruit to TCU other than cocaine and rich white girls?

[Tex-19 3013]

1 minute ago, Etexhorn13 said:

How the fuck you gonna positively recruit to TCU other than cocaine and rich white girls?

Pretty sure you just answered your own question

[Newy25 7916]

8 minutes ago, Etexhorn13 said:

How the fuck you gonna positively recruit to TCU other than cocaine and rich white girls?

I mean, can I sign to play for TCU? 

[Michael Knight 13230]

1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

There’s movement behind the scenes with getting Denver Harris to hold off? And Guilbeau would know about this and it would change this desire to come to Texas?

Patterson told Guilbeau that Texas wants Harris more so come to TCU where we love you

[The Beast 585]

30 minutes ago, Etexhorn13 said:

How the fuck you gonna positively recruit to TCU other than cocaine and rich white girls?

I’m in!

[Hookem2147 22036]

9 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

Patterson told Guilbeau that Texas wants Harris more so come to TCU where we love you

They could have told him that a year ago 

[Not a Sock 2366]

35 minutes ago, Etexhorn13 said:

How the fuck you gonna positively recruit to TCU other than cocaine and rich white girls?

Doing fat ass gator tails with a naked smoke show in the back seat of the G wagon daddy bought her is a hell of a recruiting pitch in my opinion.

[UncleBuck 6455]

How the fuck you gonna positively recruit to TCU other than cocaine and rich white girls?

[Pato del Muerto 53511]

44 minutes ago, Etexhorn13 said:

How the fuck you gonna positively recruit to TCU other than cocaine and rich white girls?

[SquishMitten 10497]

I don't think anyone would have been surprised with TCU when he first reopened the recruitment, but very interesting to act like nothing has changed since then given all the chatter from our 9.95ers. 

But things have changed in multiple ways from a sales perspective. TCU has as good a chance as anyone to win the Big 12 for the foreseeable future if it stays intact. Unfortunately for them, most folks won’t consider it a legit enough conference so they’ll be the odd man out until playoff expansion

[UncleSonny 6798]

3 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Owens was a take purely on his numbers. I’ve gotten more skeptical about those types of picks. The fast wide receiver from a few years ago that blew up late because of his forty time picked Alabama and has since transferred. Can’t recall his name. 

 

3 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

It takes more than being really fast and really big in college to succeed.

Generally I agree with this but some coaches seem to figure it out with those kind of guys.

Matt Rhule quickly rebuilt Baylor and leveraged that success into an NFL job by grabbing lightly recruited guys that were fast as hell. Not surprisingly, he really wanted Owens.