Texas Recruiting Notes 2022 - Idiotic Slapfights Unrelated To 2022 Recruiting

[TexasFan21 1275]

Just now, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Can we trade LSU Joseph for Raymond? Please God. 

Apparently, he cannot coach at Texas due to compliance issues. 

[TexasFan21 1275]

 

[UncleBuck 6455]

1 minute ago, Enchubben said:

would seem silly if they cannot, though they probably don't know or understand the scope of it quite yet enough to pitch. 

I'd imagine Sark and the rest have been updated on what to say, where to stop, and what contacts to give out if any further questions. It's super the fuck organized.

Edited December 1, 2021 by UncleBuck

[Wulaw Horn 19603]

1 minute ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Can the coaches discuss items like this. Or will it have to be marketed and hope it spreads via channels 

Why on earth wouldn't they be able to discuss this? I would imagine that every single coach in every single sport should be tweeting this out and talk to every potential recruit and lay out the plan for what is headed down the line. 
As I understand it- when CTJ says endowed it will basically be like any other endowed chair or position you show up, you do the work and you get paid.  And it wouldn't have to be equal of course.  $10,000 a guy in baseball would be huge and do away with the problem of guys having to pay their own way to go to school here because of 11.7.  I don't see any reason why the basic endowment couldn't be $500,000.00 for QB1 in a rational world.  Obviously I don't have all the details (and these guys don't either, yet, I'm sure) but there is no reason coaches wouldn't be able to talk about this.  A big part of every visit for a couple years has been us talking about power of our brand and what that means for NIL.  now there will be something tangible to put with that....

[Dummy 344]

15 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

Gerry Hamilton expects Terry Joseph to go LSU. 

I would assume that would be to pair up with Raymond, but hopefully Kelly only wants his guys and lets Raymond go.

[UTEE97 3950]

Breaking: Certain big time recent A&M commit has reached out to Hayes Fawcett for a flip edit. 

[Sgt Hulk 14499]

The swinging dick endowment fund wars are about to begin. Texas Vs Oregon 

[Radical Larry 28830]

[Hookem2147 22071]

2 minutes ago, TexasFan21 said:

Apparently, he cannot coach at Texas due to compliance issues. 

Yep. Raymond will coach CB's and Joseph will coach safeties.

This works out for everyone. Joseph is pretty worthless as a recruiter outside of his Louisiana connections and he would have been even more useless at Texas moving forward with LSU being component again.

[DanTheHorn 5093]

8 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

You are not thinking big enough. That's been this board's and the AD's problem for a while now.

I am thinking smart spending also has to be in the equation. Throwing money around chasing 8 and 4 has not worked for aggy.  Moe, Larry and Curly were neither smart or willing to chase the right guy with the proper amount of money so I guess that puts us behind on both parts of the wining formula.

 

 

 

[honolulu horn 6241]

3 minutes ago, TexasFan21 said:

 

[Sgt Hulk 14499]

Just now, UTEE97 said:

Breaking: Certain big time recent A&M commit has reached out to Hayes Fawcett for a flip edit. 

🤣🤣🤣🤣. The fucking meltdown would be next level if it happened 

[JOSEYWALES66 1859]

How many athletes are there in total at Texas?

[RabidM 2775]

Do we evade title 9 restrictions of even payouts since it's not technically the school distributing the money? 

[irishtexan 11712]

14 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Expect numerous former athletes to participate, including the likes of Ford and Durant. I'm sure guys like VY are a given. 

That's very encouraging about Durant, as his UT affiliation has never felt as strong as it could/should be. TJ's always repped UT. 

I was thinking about who the current "high-profile" UT football players are in the NFL and it's a pretty sad list. I think that, without a doubt, Justin Tucker is our most famous football alum. It's be good to see him be part of this. But kickers don't make QB money...

[UncleBuck 6455]

5 minutes ago, TexasFan21 said:

 

[Bevo14 8471]

5 minutes ago, TexasFan21 said:

 

Oregon, aggy, Georgia, Ole Miss, Bama...

[theaveragejon 1104]

3 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

That's very encouraging about Durant, as his UT affiliation has never felt as strong as it could/should be. TJ's always repped UT. 

I was thinking about who the current "high-profile" UT football players are in the NFL and it's a pretty sad list. I think that, without a doubt, Justin Tucker is our most famous football alum. It's be good to see him be part of this. But kickers don't make QB money...

Why do you think that’s the case with Durant? He donated 3 million to the basketball program a few years ago. And has helped outfit every sport with KD styled gear

[UTEE97 3950]

All your croots are belong to us? #TexasNIL

[Duane Moore 5781]

[Pato del Muerto 53636]

34 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

We are No 2 btw

Always have been

[Hank_Hill 20136]

6 minutes ago, RabidM said:

Do we evade title 9 restrictions of even payouts since it's not technically the school distributing the money? 

Lol yes. Big Bertha over in shot put isn’t getting the same as Bijan Robinson

[Vertigo 20519]

9 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

The swinging dick endowment fund wars are about to begin. Texas Vs Oregon 

I would Imagine USC, aggy, tOSU, Michigan, and Georgia will get into the mix on this. But we are about to torpedo those SEC schools like Bama, LSU, BlowU, Arky, etc. 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Vertigo

[dieucla98 2963]

Fuck it, I signed up. It's time.

[irishtexan 11712]

Just now, theaveragejon said:

Why do you think that’s the case with Durant? He donated 3 million to the basketball program a few years ago. And has helped outfit every sport with KD styled gear

Know idea why I've felt that way, to be honest. It's just a vibe thing. As is the case most of the time, I'm probably wrong and full of shit. 

[Sgt Hulk 14499]

Just now, Vertigo said:

I would Imagine USC, aggy, and tOSU will get into the mix on this. But we are about to torpedo those SEC schools like Bama, LSU, etc. 

I could see USC doing well with the west coast elites and SoCal money.  In terms of aggy I guess the used car lot endowment fund could be worth hundreds of dollars 

[theaveragejon 1104]

1 minute ago, irishtexan said:

Know idea why I've felt that way, to be honest. It's just a vibe thing. As is the case most of the time, I'm probably wrong and full of shit. 

Fair. 
I do wish and feel like he could be more prominent - but you know two hands and hope. 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6598]

They should take 5 million of the initial 10 million and use it on football right now via the 2022 recruits and the portal.  Let Sark get the any player he wants and then we can see if he really sucks or if he will be really good.  This is in jest....kind of.

[Hank_Hill 20136]

KD would’ve made a killing doing an NIL deal with Jergens 

[Vertigo 20519]

1 minute ago, Sgt Hulk said:

I could see USC doing well with the west coast elites and SoCal money.  In terms of aggy I guess the used car lot endowment fund could be worth hundreds of dollars 

You know good and well those little dicks won't want to be publicly out money'd. 

Breaking: Texas A&M University mortgages Texas A&M kingsville campus to the Chinese government for 400 million in NIL money. 

[Wulaw Horn 19603]

So, if they get to the 150,000,000 they want on the fundraise ask as @closetojumping said is the goal- the endowment will throw off something like $12,000,000 a year.  So- back of envelope math there are about 700 scholarshop athletes at UT.  If you paid them out all equally this would be something like $17,000 per person.  I think it would be the height of folly to pay them all equally. 

Varsity Sports
Men: Football, Basketball, baseball, Golf, Tennis, Track and Field, Cross country, Swimming and diving

Women:  Basketball, Softball, Golf, Tennis, Track and Field, Cross Country, Volleyball, Swimming and diving, Rowing, Soccer.

if I was splitting the money up I think I'd give $7,500,000 to football, 2,500,000 to mens basketball and $1,000,000 to mens olympic sports and 1,000,000 to womens Olympic sports. I'm sure some would howl- but basically that's about the percentage on how much the needle moves in revenue brought in- so it would stand to reason that's how you ought to order your expenses.

Back of the envelope math that's $10,000,000 going to 100 scholarship athletes in football and mens basketball.  That's $100,000 if you paid everyone equally per year.  Now- there is not way I would do that.  QB1 gets $1,000,000 a year and specialists (kickers and punters and long snappers and shit like that) get $10,000 a year in my world.  Starters get something like $150,000.00 and reserves get $50,000 (if such a thing is allowed.  Basketball you could have something like star gets $1,000,000, rest of the starters split $1,000,000.00 and reserves get 50,000 each.  Bam- that's a ton of scratch

Non revenue sports then are splitting $2,000,000 based upon 600 scholarship athletes.  That's $3500 a kid.  I can't imagine anyone else is paying the womens rowing team or the mens cross country team $3500 a pop- but that shouldn't be micro managed you just give the coaches a budget and say- here you go womens crew- you have $50,000 to spend. Here you go baseball- here's $500,000.00.   Here is $125,000 womens volleyball.  
Of course you can't pay for performance, blah blah blah. I'm not exactly sure how you would figure that all out. But hell- just paying everyone equally on the football team like that at $100,000 you'd think you'd have all the non QB types banging down the door to get in on that.  

[closetojumping 65648]

2 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

I would Imagine USC, aggy, tOSU, Michigan, and Georgia will get into the mix on this. But we are about to torpedo those SEC schools like Bama, LSU, BlowU, Arky, etc. 

Michigan and Ohio State are basically the only other schools capable of coming close to where Texas is headed. Oregon is backed by a guy with endless personnel and creative resources and a $60+billion worth and nothing better to do, so they can honestly do whatever the fuck they want, albeit stuck in Eugene, OR, which is really far away from most of the gen pop's homes. 

We've reviewed this shit and very few schools can come anywhere close if UT's base flexes (which it's now started to do). There's a reason no one else is close to the LHF, as an analog. You need breadth, depth, affinity, and organization. ATM lacks depth and organization. They're notorious on those fronts and no extra set of 50,000 insurance agents or teachers is changing that. Georgia is smaller than you think and doesn't have nearly the resources from its base. SC lacks the depth and affinity and university commitment to support or push correctly along these lines. Notre Dame is run by the Catholic church. On and on. 

[Texas Wahoo 3631]

 

Some more information about former player involvement:

 

 

Edited to add that Juliann Johnson is apparently Juliann Faucette's married name.  

Edited December 1, 2021 by Texas Wahoo

[Handcruser 2817]

1 minute ago, Vertigo said:

You know good and well those little dicks won't want to be publicly out money'd. 

Breaking: Texas A&M University mortgages Texas A&M kingsville campus to the Chinese government for 400 million in NIL money. 

Got damn you know that’s right. We could prob separate them from the PUF right now for Pennie’s on the dollar.  They’d spend it all in 90 days and we could pick up A&M computers, desks, etc at the local pawn shops by summer. 

[westexhorn 2167]

26 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

You know good and well those little dicks won't want to be publicly out money'd. 

Breaking: Texas A&M University mortgages Texas A&M kingsville campus to the Chinese government for 400 million in NIL money. 

Excuse me sir but the Chinese govt only targets valuable assets

Edited December 1, 2021 by westexhorn

[THUJONE 4550]

IT saying that initial allocations would be 80% football 20% other sports. Players make on average $100k. If they portal or are processed out of the program, they lose the money. A new incentive not to play shitty, guys. I'll take it. 

Edited December 1, 2021 by THUJONE

[ClubWhatever 12354]

4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

no extra set of 50,000 insurance agents or teachers is changing that.

LOL

[Getafix 29503]

 

Elite EDGE rusher Marvin Jones Jr. considering Texas official visit

Mike Roach

 

Spoiler

Elite EDGE rusher Marvin Jones Jr. considering Texas official visit

Mike Roach
 

The Longhorns have stacked talent on the defensive line this year, but they will always take more bodies if elite talent presents itself.

One player they are working to get a foot in the door with is Marvin Jones Jr. The elite EDGE rusher from Fort Lauderdale (Fla.) American Heritage hasn't seen Texas, but that could change this weekend. In an interview with Hank South of Bama Online, Jones' mother Alexsandra said the family is trying to sort out what to do with their remaining visits.

“Having visited Alabama for the first time myself, everything about it was amazing,” Alexsandra Jones told BamaOnLine. “Very polished, very crisp, and cool. My son really, really liked it. But at this point I think he’s just exploring his last options, especially now with the change at Oklahoma. He’s just basically going to take his last two officials — Georiga, and I believe, it’s not confirmed as of yet, Texas."

Jones has family in the Austin area and the family has been in contact with the coaching staff. Texas would have a lot of work to do, but the opportunity to host elite talent should never be taken for granted. Jones was originally expected to sign during the early signing period, but changes on coaching staffs at schools like Oklahoma have changed the decision process.

“That’s kind of questionable,” Alexsandra said. “Initially it was going to be Dec. 15, but now that things have shifted — not necessarily that he was going to commit to Oklahoma — he’s seeing that things are transpiring with coaches. So I think he may weigh his options and not necessarily sign on the 15th, even if it’s a couple days or a week later, he just wants to take these last visits before he makes his final decision. There’s no crystal ball. He’s just looking at all options to see what the perfect fit is for him, and obviously Alabama is obviously one of the top schools.”

At 6-foot-4.5, 245 pounds, Jones is ranked as the No. 3 EDGE rusher in the country and No. 7 overall prospect in Florida, according to 247Sports Composite.

 

 

https://247sports.com/Player/Marvin-Jones-Jr-46094716/

 

[Vertigo 20519]

Just now, THUJONE said:

IT saying that initial allocations would be 80% football 20% other sports. Players make on average $100k. If stye portal or are processed out of the program, they lose the money. A new incentive not to play shitty, guys. I'll take it. 

This makes me warm and fuzzy. 

[Zhorn96 1846]

1 hour ago, UncleBuck said:

fuckin' tree with their astropsychiatrists and what not

Stanford is a sinking ship.  4-8, now 3-9, the Shaw mojo is gone.  Anyone who wants to go to Stanford hates football

 

Also, Fuck Stanford

[UnhappilyMarried 844]

2 minutes ago, THUJONE said:

IT saying that initial allocations would be 80% football 20% other sports. Players make on average $100k. If they portal or are processed out of the program, they lose the money. A new incentive not to play shitty, guys. I'll take it. 

Sending transfers to collections when they’ve undoubtedly spent the money will be interesting 

[irishtexan 11712]

6 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I'm sure some would howl

No one gets to say shit. This isn't Title 9. The group gets to invest the money in whatever ways they believe will increase the endowment. That it's a Department-wide endeavor is fucking incredible. I'm sure there are a lot of programs that would do something like this only for football. But to take this department wide takes this to a different and more impressive scale. It's excellent PR.

[HenryJames 67611]

1 hour ago, Sgt Hulk said:

We are as barren as a 80 year olds vagina. 

This true @Armybrat?

[Wulaw Horn 19603]

2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Michigan and Ohio State are basically the only other schools capable of coming close to where Texas is headed. Oregon is backed by a guy with endless personnel and creative resources and a $60+billion worth and nothing better to do, so they can honestly do whatever the fuck they want, albeit stuck in Eugene, OR, which is really far away from most of the gen pop's homes. 

We've reviewed this shit and very few schools can come anywhere close if UT's base flexes (which it's now started to do). There's a reason no one else is close to the LHF, as an analog. You need breadth, depth, affinity, and organization. ATM lacks depth and organization. They're notorious on those fronts and no extra set of 50,000 insurance agents or teachers is changing that. Georgia is smaller than you think and doesn't have nearly the resources from its base. SC lacks the depth and affinity and university commitment to support or push correctly along these lines. Notre Dame is run by the Catholic church. On and on. 

If T-Boone Pickens wasn't dead he could have Ok State (which sounds hysterical but it's true) in that list of schools.  Basically how many alums give $150,000,000.00 to athletics at their alma maters. Don't feel like it's probably a lot- but I have no idea what funding gifts for a stadium around the college landscape looks like.  
Arkansas & MIssouri would be a dark horse type that could compete on our level- the Walton's all basically went there right? And the NFL owner kid played hoops at Missou so you'd think he has some affection to the school. If you own an NFL team you could drop 9 figures on something like this if you felt like it if you are Walton/Walmart rich and not feel it at all.  

Would a guy like TBoone rather build a football stadium and have his name on that or endow his school in perpetuity and have his name on that?  Dunno. I can't  imagine that, but if it's me I probably invest in people- I think that's b/c I'm not a rich guy- they are probably more likely to invest in infrastructure.  

 

[SydneyCarton 49540]

Just now, UnhappilyMarried said:

Sending transfers to collections when they’ve undoubtedly spent the money will be interesting 

I can't speak for their efforts, but assume they're smart enough to structure it so that the payments are made monthly throughout the course of a season. 

[Wulaw Horn 19603]

2 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

No one gets to say shit. This isn't Title 9. The group gets to invest the money in whatever ways they believe will increase the endowment. That it's a Department-wide endeavor is fucking incredible. I'm sure there are a lot of programs that would do something like this only for football. But to take this department wide takes this to a different and more impressive scale. It's excellent PR.

Oh- I agree completely.  That doesn't mean there won't be push back from various places around campus and in the community. I personally don't give a fuck, but it will exist.  such has always been the case. 

[RaysBoomBoomRoom 5742]

Anyone have this?

https://twitter.com/TFB_Texas/status/1466085025670217737?s=20

[TexasGolf 5470]

54 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

We are No 2 btw

 

[irishtexan 11712]

1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Oh- I agree completely.  That doesn't mean there won't be push back from various places around campus and in the community. I personally don't give a fuck, but it will exist.  such has always been the case. 

[JOSEYWALES66 1859]

7 minutes ago, Getafix said:

 

Elite EDGE rusher Marvin Jones Jr. considering Texas official visit

Mike Roach

 

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Elite EDGE rusher Marvin Jones Jr. considering Texas official visit

Mike Roach
 

The Longhorns have stacked talent on the defensive line this year, but they will always take more bodies if elite talent presents itself.

One player they are working to get a foot in the door with is Marvin Jones Jr. The elite EDGE rusher from Fort Lauderdale (Fla.) American Heritage hasn't seen Texas, but that could change this weekend. In an interview with Hank South of Bama Online, Jones' mother Alexsandra said the family is trying to sort out what to do with their remaining visits.

“Having visited Alabama for the first time myself, everything about it was amazing,” Alexsandra Jones told BamaOnLine. “Very polished, very crisp, and cool. My son really, really liked it. But at this point I think he’s just exploring his last options, especially now with the change at Oklahoma. He’s just basically going to take his last two officials — Georiga, and I believe, it’s not confirmed as of yet, Texas."

Jones has family in the Austin area and the family has been in contact with the coaching staff. Texas would have a lot of work to do, but the opportunity to host elite talent should never be taken for granted. Jones was originally expected to sign during the early signing period, but changes on coaching staffs at schools like Oklahoma have changed the decision process.

“That’s kind of questionable,” Alexsandra said. “Initially it was going to be Dec. 15, but now that things have shifted — not necessarily that he was going to commit to Oklahoma — he’s seeing that things are transpiring with coaches. So I think he may weigh his options and not necessarily sign on the 15th, even if it’s a couple days or a week later, he just wants to take these last visits before he makes his final decision. There’s no crystal ball. He’s just looking at all options to see what the perfect fit is for him, and obviously Alabama is obviously one of the top schools.”

At 6-foot-4.5, 245 pounds, Jones is ranked as the No. 3 EDGE rusher in the country and No. 7 overall prospect in Florida, according to 247Sports Composite.

 

 

https://247sports.com/Player/Marvin-Jones-Jr-46094716/

 

His dad was a bad mutha fucka in college.