Texas Recruiting Notes 2022 - Idiotic Slapfights Unrelated To 2022 Recruiting

[Junior Bonner 6227]

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Edited December 7, 2021 by Junior Bonner

[EZ$ 2102]

50 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

Darren Rovell is a little bitch...

 

So paying players legally is worse than what aggy and the rest of the SEC have been doing??

[texasstrong12 4668]

That's pretty much it. People are upset Texas is now doing legally what 90% of the SEC schools have been doing illegally for years. 

It's why Liucci was so pissy yesterday about NIL. How dare Texas get players paid with NIL when SEC schools have been doing it for years with bagmen. 

Edited December 7, 2021 by texasstrong12

[Scholz 11923]

2 minutes ago, EZ$ said:

So paying players legally is worse than what aggy and the rest of the SEC have been doing??

No but Texas wasn't ever supposed to jump in the game

[honolulu horn 6156]

2 minutes ago, EZ$ said:

So paying players legally is worse than what aggy and the rest of the SEC have been doing??

Exactly. How is it cheating if it's legal?

 

[Duane Moore 5236]

Lot of buggy whip manufacturers out there getting mad about these new-fangled motorized automobiles 

[SydneyCarton 47809]

2 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

Lot of buggy whip manufacturers out there getting mad about these new-fangled motorized automobiles 

Careful. @closetojumping Going to come here and perform that monologue for the entire crowd.

[LarryMoeSurly 411]

1 hour ago, Coach pop a bitch said:

 

What the fuck is that?

[closetojumping 62131]

1 hour ago, Getafix said:

 

Tuesday update on Kelvin Banks

Brian Perroni

 

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Tuesday update on Kelvin Banks

Brian Perroni

Well, this one could end up lasting a bit longer. Even with the change, Banks had wanted to sign early still. But, there is a growing chance that he decides to push it back and not sign until February.

Texas is in a good spot now but A&M is working to counter that and is doing a good job with it. As of now, the plan is likely for Jimbo Fisher to wait until January to do his in-home visit with Banks. And, with the five-star tackle being a huge priority, Fisher is definitely going to do an in-home. So A&M would not push it back if they didn't feel pretty confident that this will not stretch out until February. There's always the chance the Aggies get word that he will sign next week and schedule Fisher's in-home for later this week/weekend, but that is not in the plans at the moment.

A&M is also at least trying to get him to town for the big unofficial visit weekend in College Station. Banks has not made plans as of now to go anywhere yet yet, though.

I also checked on the reports that Nick Saban was supposed to be by Summer Creek today and was told he is on the West Coast and in Arizona today. The only coach that has been to the school so far today is the Oklahoma State OL coach. Banks had Josh Henson in over the weekend and I would expect Henson to be back by again this week.

 

 

I don't think Banks holds off because Jimbo Fisher is attempting sleight of hand. I also think this hilariously validates our assumption and intel that ATM hasn't been doing a fucking thing on NIL, is disorganized regarding it, and wanted to keep things exactly as things were now that they had the bag game infrastructure installed. Whoopsy. 

In truth, if they can actually organize and if they can actually find deep enough pockets who are willing, they'll have a fine NIL program. No one gives a shit. The whole point of putting together an NIL program was that it will dwarf the dark market money, reduce dark market participation because incentives have changed, and players will get a larger share of the payout pie. That, in turn, nullifies, more or less, the longstanding competitive advantage that those willing to cheat held over those that weren't. Then it all gets back to good old normal recruiting and extolling the values of programs, traditions, staffs, performance, etc. You know, the way it's actually supposed to work when cheating motherfuckers like the try-hards next door aren't ruining it for everyone else. 

BTW, one other element of NIL having positive value for groups like us that I didn't really even foresee is the inadvertent pressure it applies to coaching staffs to produce. Want to get paid more? Win. Why does a HC need a $1million raise when that money could go to a new annual program for defensive backs instead? Better win, buddy. There are alternatives that are sustainable and evergreen for the alumni bases of universities that suddenly look pretty attractive.

Edited December 7, 2021 by closetojumping

[texasstrong12 4668]

19 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

So many people on this board have tried to rationalize why aggy has been landing recruits over Texas. "It's coaching", "look at our record", "Texas doesn't produce NFL talent". 

A few days after announcing this NIL deal Texas is going to land a 5 star OL over aggy simply by offsetting their bags. 

 

If Texas somehow lands Banks and Dewberry this should be obvious. I'm convinced recruiting is 90% about getting players/recruits paid and all the other stuff is secondary. 

I've reached the point where I don't even give a shit about "we need to hire X assistant because of recruiting." It doesn't make a difference. Get players paid and you will get recruits. 

 

[Huckleberry 32684]

1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

BTW, one other element of NIL having positive value for groups like us that I didn't really even foresee is the inadvertent pressure it applies to coaching staff to produce. Want to get paid more? Win. Why does a HC need a $1million raise when that money could go to a new annual program for defensive backs instead? Better win, buddy. There are alternatives that are sustainable and evergreen for the alumni bases of universities that suddenly look pretty attractive.

Yeah I referenced yesterday how dumb Michigan State boosters must feel right now. I think my example was why pay Mel fucking Tucker $9.5M every year instead of paying Tucker $5M, the offensive line $2.5M, and the defensive line $2M every year? Which one would lead to more winning?

[Chili dog 1787]

2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Nice to read some positive vibes from this thread again. I don’t like to count chickens anymore with football recruiting, but here’s to hoping the things in motion settle out in our favor. 

Amen. 

[closetojumping 62131]

8 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

Lot of buggy whip manufacturers out there getting mad about these new-fangled motorized automobiles 

 

5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Careful. @closetojumping Going to come here and perform that monologue for the entire crowd.

One of the finest speeches in movie history and True to the capital T in life and capitalism. It's terribly overlooked because of the awesome and well-known Gordon Gekko "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good" speech from Wall Street that covers the same terrain around the same time of "Other People's Money" being released. 

[crash_davis 23078]

1 minute ago, texasstrong12 said:

Get players paid and you will get recruits. 

 

Auburn and Ole Miss and the rest of the $EC Liked this comment!

 

[Tex Pete 20136]

16 minutes ago, Scholz said:

No but Texas wasn't ever supposed to jump in the game

Right. We could have used LHN to our advantage, but those assholes bitched so loudly that we got blocked from doing it before we ever started. Now, they're whining again.

Advantages are only bad when the biggest dog uses them. The bitches are howling.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

1 minute ago, Tex Pete said:

Right. We could have used LHN to our advantage, but those assholes bitched so loudly that we got blocked from doing it before we ever started. Now, they're whining again.

Advantages are only bad when the biggest dog uses them. The bitches are howling.

That was a mistake.  We should have told everyone to fuck off and if they tried to interfere with ESPN's right to broadcast whatever they wanted we would see their asses in court.

[General Specific 3226]

That's pretty much it. People are upset Texas is now doing legally what 90% of the SEC schools have been doing illegally for years. 
It's why Liucci was so pissy yesterday about NIL. How dare Texas get players paid with NIL when SEC schools have been doing it for years with bagmen. 

Insert “well the world needs ditch diggers too” gif!!!

[Bevo14 8260]

6 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I don't think Banks holds off because Jimbo Fisher is attempting sleight of hand. I also think this hilariously validates our assumption and intel that ATM hasn't been doing a fucking thing on NIL, is disorganized regarding it, and wanted to keep things exactly as things were now that they had the bag game infrastructure installed. Whoopsy. 

In truth, if they can actually organize and if they can actually find deep enough pockets who are willing, they'll have a fine NIL program. No one gives a shit. The whole point of putting together an NIL program was that it will dwarf the dark market money, reduce dark market participation because incentives have changed, and players will get a larger share of the payout pie. That, in turn, nullifies, more or less, the longstanding competitive advantage that those willing to cheat held over those that weren't. Then it all gets back to good old normal recruiting and extolling the values of programs, traditions, staffs, performance, etc. You know, the way it's actually supposed to work when cheating motherfuckers like the try-hards next door aren't ruining it for everyone else. 

BTW, one other element of NIL having positive value for groups like us that I didn't really even foresee is the inadvertent pressure it applies to coaching staffs to produce. Want to get paid more? Win. Why does a HC need a $1million raise when that money could go to a new annual program for defensive backs instead? Better win, buddy. There are alternatives that are sustainable and evergreen for the alumni bases of universities that suddenly look pretty attractive.

Not having to live and die by shitty coaching hires will be nice.

[Tex Pete 20136]

6 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I also think this hilariously validates our assumption and intel that ATM hasn't been doing a fucking thing on NIL, is disorganized regarding it, and wanted to keep things exactly as they were now that had the bag game infrastructure installed. Whoopsy. 

Absolutely. Your work is appreciated because it did not happen overnight and you could not just snap your hands and make it happen. You guys had to put in work for this all to come about.

Their comments yesterday were extremely dismissive. They tell me that those making the comments are not contributing in any meaningful way, and they don't even understand the difference between bags of cash and NIL.

Billy was so pissed because he knows the truth. They are desperately trying to capitalize while we are struggling and still in the Big 12. Y'all making big NIL moves has to be a scary thing to those morons.

[Tex Pete 20136]

4 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

That was a mistake.  We should have told everyone to fuck off and if they tried to interfere with ESPN's right to broadcast whatever they wanted we would see their asses in court.

You're right. What has capitulating ever done for us? This shitty conference takes every opportunity to stab us in the back. We are treated as the villains when we do absolutely nothing. Even Bowlsby has been a dick, and we are the last program he should ever besmirch. We cannot even get reasonable officiating, yet the poor schools cry incessantly.

We need to give them legitimate things to cry about by repeatedly kicking their asses.

[Funk Doctor Spock 11911]

Get Campbell, Banks, Dewberry, Williams, and the two UVA transfer linemen. 

[Bevo14 8260]

the SC 247 board saying that Campbell isn't visiting them?

[JesusSweatDuck 17780]

Just now, Bevo14 said:

the SC 247 board saying that Campbell isn't visiting them?

[LebongJames 1781]

7 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

the SC 247 board saying that Campbell isn't visiting them?

RaysBoomBoom probably thinks this means he’s already signed with USC.

Edited December 7, 2021 by LebongJames

[Funk Doctor Spock 11911]

We should kick the tires on Jase McClellan and see if he wants what Bijan is getting. 

[honolulu horn 6156]

32 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Yeah I referenced yesterday how dumb Michigan State boosters must feel right now. I think my example was why pay Mel fucking Tucker $9.5M every year instead of paying Tucker $5M, the offensive line $2.5M, and the defensive line $2M every year? Which one would lead to more winning?

Absolutely what I've been thinking ever since these Texas NIL deals were announced. So much smarter to get players than to overpay coaches. 

[Longhornlove 4779]

Just now, honolulu horn said:

Absolutely what I've been thinking ever since these Texas NIL deals were announced. So much smarter to get players than to overpay coaches. 

I said this probably a month ago when people started crying and wanting Sark fired. I said BS, take that buy out money and spend it on players, you will get much better results.

[HenryJames 65868]

29 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

the SC 247 board saying that Campbell isn't visiting them?

I’m Ron Burgundy?

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[Tex48 840]

3 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

scroll back a bit

Fried chicken logs?

[RGBIII 22798]

Just now, Tex48 said:

Fried chicken logs?

right before that but sounds delicious

[Getafix 28392]

45 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

the SC 247 board saying that Campbell isn't visiting them?

 

FWIW ... 

 

 

 

 

[Dr. Teeth 5813]

Don’t troll Rovell. That’s why he tweets. He is the biggest troll on Twitter. 

[Tex-19 2869]

9 minutes ago, Getafix said:

 

FWIW ... 

 

 

 

 

So USC may be out, Bama isn’t pushing, and OU seems out???? LFG!

[Enchubben 5509]

We don't intend for this to impact recruitments...

[Sgt. Slaughter 2841]

2 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

So USC may be out, Bama isn’t pushing, and OU seems out???? LFG!

[Eskimohorn 5610]

Absolutely what I've been thinking ever since these Texas NIL deals were announced. So much smarter to get players than to overpay coaches. 

We had 2 Top 5 classes in 2018 and 2019 with players that were heavily recruited by blue bloods? How’d those work out for us?

It does put a premium on coaches who are great communicators and organized leaders. But if AD’s and BMDs think they can moneyball wins, they are mistaken.

[Hornlover 8824]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

I don't think Banks holds off because Jimbo Fisher is attempting sleight of hand. I also think this hilariously validates our assumption and intel that ATM hasn't been doing a fucking thing on NIL, is disorganized regarding it, and wanted to keep things exactly as things were now that they had the bag game infrastructure installed. Whoopsy. 

In truth, if they can actually organize and if they can actually find deep enough pockets who are willing, they'll have a fine NIL program. No one gives a shit. The whole point of putting together an NIL program was that it will dwarf the dark market money, reduce dark market participation because incentives have changed, and players will get a larger share of the payout pie. That, in turn, nullifies, more or less, the longstanding competitive advantage that those willing to cheat held over those that weren't. Then it all gets back to good old normal recruiting and extolling the values of programs, traditions, staffs, performance, etc. You know, the way it's actually supposed to work when cheating motherfuckers like the try-hards next door aren't ruining it for everyone else. 

BTW, one other element of NIL having positive value for groups like us that I didn't really even foresee is the inadvertent pressure it applies to coaching staffs to produce. Want to get paid more? Win. Why does a HC need a $1million raise when that money could go to a new annual program for defensive backs instead? Better win, buddy. There are alternatives that are sustainable and evergreen for the alumni bases of universities that suddenly look pretty attractive.

That last point might be true, but it hasn't helped curb coaches salaries in the NFL. 

[Hornlover 8824]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

 

One of the finest speeches in movie history and True to the capital T in life and capitalism. It's terribly overlooked because of the awesome and well-known Gordon Gekko "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good" speech from Wall Street that covers the same terrain around the same time of "Other People's Money" being released. 

And Alec Baldwin in Glengarry Glen Ross.

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[JOSEYWALES66 1790]

Why no bandana RGBIII?

 

 

[HenryJames 65868]

6 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

So you don’t have to scroll

Thanks for not sending @immamac.

[jinx 2635]

I wanted to say my thanks to the guys that started this thing, @immamac @RGBIII @closetojumping and all the others that set up Burnt Ends, The Pancake Factory and Clark Field Collective. Thanks for showing the rest of the world what this great university is all about. It truly is one of the best and it attracts and educates some extremely bright minds.

Being too proud to play the dirty game that the Bamas and OUs of the world play has really become an anchor around our neck. You guys didn't level the playing field, you walked in the casino and flipped the tables over and pistol whipped some bitches. Not only did you fully weaponize the NIL, you guys did it record time with almost no one in the same arena. It is a truly amazing feat and something I am happy to see and happier to support.

And that is the coolest part. We all can be part of it now. All of us idiots typing on keyboards all day long wishing our BMDs would just go buy players, can now just set up our PayPal to funnel to the machine that will buy the revolution. And we have more alumni with higher paying jobs and genuine interest in football than almost any other brand in college football. Cletus will have to decide whether to buy his pack of Marlboros and Natty Lights or send $20 to the Bammer fund. I just don't see how the black market can ever keep up.

Like CTJ said, the rest of the football world will figure it out (probably just copy) but I can't think of a better school to maximize it before somebody stops the party and introduces caps. 

This is the best thing to happen to Texas Football in my lifetime! Let's Go!!!

[Duane Moore 5236]

12 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

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Our little boy is all growsed up tonight!

 

[Junior Bonner 6227]

36 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

scroll back a bit

For some reason I expected you to look more like Steve Carell. 

[Huckleberry 32684]

17 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

We had 2 Top 5 classes in 2018 and 2019 with players that were heavily recruited by blue bloods? How’d those work out for us?

It does put a premium on coaches who are great communicators and organized leaders. But if AD’s and BMDs think they can moneyball wins, they are mistaken.

Except you're completely forgetting about the transfer portal. Well and also you're completely misusing the term moneyball.

Edited December 7, 2021 by Huckleberry

[nycHorn 2958]

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“Not intended to have a recruiting effect”

[Huckleberry 32684]

17 minutes ago, Hornlover said:

That last point might be true, but it hasn't helped curb coaches salaries in the NFL. 

Top coach salaries are 30% of top player salaries. And that's with a salary cap. The highest paid coach makes less than the 16th highest paid QB. Less than the 23rd highest paid edge rusher, and so on. Coach salaries are definitely curbed by player salaries.

[Vertigo 20257]

19 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

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Nice work. This is such a cool program and very well put together. Also, you look like your neck blew a bubble at that camera angle. But otherwise, you are the best!

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Just now, Vertigo said:

Nice work. This is such a cool program and very well put together. Also, you look like your neck blew a bubble at that camera angle. But otherwise, you are the best!

Im just fat