Nothing to see here -- just a town declaring a state of emergency before releasing body cam of police shooting!

[Beau Vine 54,252]

 

[Captainant 27,680]

They also delayed the release of the video so they can blur their officers faces to protect them.

The family had coordinated with the PD to see the footage at 11:30ET, which was pushed to 1:30ET, which they missed as well.

 

The cops really aren't doing themselves any favors towards public opinion when they keep missing the deadlines they set for themselves.

Edited April 26, 2021 by Captainant

[Nicole44 22,061]

Exactly. Transparency is crucial. I don’t know many posters that would disagree.
 

People aren’t doing themselves any favors toward public opinion when they keep missing deadlines set by court.

[hobbes2702 13,045]

11 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Exactly. Transparency is crucial. I don’t know many posters that would disagree.
 

People aren’t doing themselves any favors toward public opinion when they keep missing deadlines set by court.

Didn’t realize we put people to death for missing a court date

[Beau Vine 54,252]

16 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Didn’t realize we put people to death for missing a court date

Where have you been?

[Nicole44 22,061]

10 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Didn’t realize we put people to death for missing a court date

We do? Or is it a common denominator? 
 

Is this not how government works? Tax the shit out of you, fine you for bullshit, come after your credit, or freedom and then some. Have to hire a lawyer. That’s expensive. Or plea out. Go to jail. Financing someone else. Or maybe government works like claim to give a shit about you. Exploit you. Use you for a cause that matters very little to anyone on either side of the aisle because: profit. 

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

If body cam footage can't be released immediately after any incident (at least to immediate family) there's probably something being hidden.

[hobbes2702 13,045]

4 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

We do? Or is it a common denominator? 
 

Is this not how government works? Tax the shit out of you, fine you for bullshit, come after your credit, or freedom and then some. Have to hire a lawyer. That’s expensive. Or plea out. Go to jail. Financing someone else. Or maybe government works like claim to give a shit about you. Exploit you. Use you for a cause that matters very little to anyone on either side of the aisle because: profit. 

[bad_teammate 13,215]

15 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

If body cam footage can't be released immediately after any incident (at least to immediate family) there's probably something being hidden.

Yep, the Bryant shooting footage was out quick.

[hobbes2702 13,045]

According to family attorneys they were only shown 20 seconds of a single body cam video. Also attempted to prevent legal counsel from viewing with the family.

[Nicole44 22,061]

7 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

 

[Nicole44 22,061]

20 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

If body cam footage can't be released immediately after any incident (at least to immediate family) there's probably something being hidden.

Yep. 

[Gil Bang 25,975]

NSFW y'all

 

 

Edited April 26, 2021 by Gil Bang

[Captainant 27,680]

Local reporting on the video contents:

 

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

6 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

According to family attorneys they were only shown 20 seconds of a single body cam video. Also attempted to prevent legal counsel from viewing with the family.

 

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

Welp NC, have fun with allll that...

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

Jesus.  Sounds bad.

[Captainant 27,680]

Wow apparently in the 20 second snippet the cops showed the family, the cops are already shooting when the video starts. Their attorney is saying that they saw at least seven or eight officers shooting at the car while it reversed away from them. They're calling it an execution.

 

[Brisketexan 105,154]

1 minute ago, Johnny Sack said:

Jesus.  Sounds bad.

It does.....but I'mma wait till I see/know more.  As described.....very not good, very bad, muy malo.  But we need to see it.

[Nicole44 22,061]

5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Wow apparently in the 20 second snippet the cops showed the family, the cops are already shooting when the video starts. Their attorney is saying that they saw at least seven or eight officers shooting at the car while it reversed away from them. They're calling it an execution.

 

Another human being. We knew this would be bad. 

[DonkeyCigars 143]

Prepare for the streets to do some talking this week.

Unironically, Rodney King had it right, "Why can't we all just get along?"

[bad_teammate 13,215]

Maybe the cost of repairing all property damage that results from this should be taken from police retirement funds.

[Nicole44 22,061]

16 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Wow apparently in the 20 second snippet the cops showed the family, the cops are already shooting when the video starts. Their attorney is saying that they saw at least seven or eight officers shooting at the car while it reversed away from them. They're calling it an execution.

 

That many officers for a warrant?

[fattyflattie 4,639]

Just now, bad_teammate said:

Maybe the cost of repairing all property damage that results from this should be taken from police retirement funds.

The family’s eventual settlement absolutely should.  

[Post Oak 20,243]

 

[po elvis 2,073]

i am starting to think pavlov was full of shit.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12,301]

10 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

The family’s eventual settlement absolutely should.  

take a lap

[Brisketexan 105,154]

26 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Wow apparently in the 20 second snippet the cops showed the family, the cops are already shooting when the video starts. Their attorney is saying that they saw at least seven or eight officers shooting at the car while it reversed away from them. They're calling it an execution.

 

The first fact is the one that concerns me -- the decision to fire had already been made by the time we start seeing video?  So...that means that we're NOT seeing what immediately preceded that (that is, the thing that either made at least the initial decision to fire justified or not).  That's concerning.  That's a material snippet of facts that is NOT being shared?  That's not good.  I hope that we're reading that wrong.

[Nicole44 22,061]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The first fact is the one that concerns me -- the decision to fire had already been made by the time we start seeing video?  So...that means that we're NOT seeing what immediately preceded that (that is, the thing that either made at least the initial decision to fire justified or not).  That's concerning.  That's a material snippet of facts that is NOT being shared?  That's not good.  I hope that we're reading that wrong.

Well ten cops...it is obvious whatever transpired can’t be shared without editing.

[Brisketexan 105,154]

6 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Well ten cops...it is obvious whatever transpired can’t be shared without editing.

Sure, and look....it's pretty obvious what many of us SUSPECT happened.  And the scenario we suspect would be super shitty.  So I really, really, really hope our suspicions are wrong.  But we need the complete, unedited, information.

And if it shows the worst, then the law needs to come down fucking hard, because nowhere does it allow police officers to become self-appointed executioners because "the suspect was running away in his car."  But goddamit, I actually hope that he tried to run someone down or something that might justify a shooting, because goddammit, enough of this shit.

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

I'm highly doubtful he was in the act of a rare triple dog daring them to shoot.

[Nicole44 22,061]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Sure, and look....it's pretty obvious what many of us SUSPECT happened.  And the scenario we suspect would be super shitty.  So I really, really, really hope our suspicions are wrong.  But we need the complete, unedited, information.

And if it shows the worst, then the law needs to come down fucking hard, because nowhere does it allow police officers to become self-appointed executioners because "the suspect was running away in his car."  But goddamit, I actually hope that he tried to run someone down or something that might justify a shooting, because goddammit, enough of this shit.

My only question is why so much fire power for a warrant? 

[Brisketexan 105,154]

1 minute ago, Nicole44 said:

My only question is why so much fire power for a warrant? 

Have you not read from the Most Holy Book of Hooorah GIT SOME, the Sacred Scripture of the Church of the American LEO?  You aren't prepared for your day unless you look exactly like you're going out to clear houses during the worst of the battle for Fallujah.

We went from this:

to this:

 

When you dress a part....you can't help but play that part.  It's just how the human brain works.

It's why guys like it when their wives dress a little trampy.

[bad_teammate 13,215]

trying to get home to their families

[workswithseed 2,112]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Have you not read from the Most Holy Book of Hooorah GIT SOME, the Sacred Scripture of the Church of the American LEO?  You aren't prepared for your day unless you look exactly like you're going out to clear houses during the worst of the battle for Fallujah.

We went from this:

to this:

 

When you dress a part....you can't help but play that part.  It's just how the human brain works.

It's why guys like it when their wives dress a little trampy.

Is that first picture of a kid picking up two hound dogs? 

[Nicole44 22,061]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Have you not read from the Most Holy Book of Hooorah GIT SOME, the Sacred Scripture of the Church of the American LEO?  You aren't prepared for your day unless you look exactly like you're going out to clear houses during the worst of the battle for Fallujah.

We went from this:

to this:

 

When you dress a part....you can't help but play that part.  It's just how the human brain works.

It's why guys like it when their wives dress a little trampy.

I get all that. And it’s horrific. I don’t understand why we keep fighting a drug war we will never win. If this person was some linchpin in a terrorist cell...fine. Kill him. (Domestic or foreign terrorist—don’t care.) 

[washparkhorn 9,939]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

When you dress a part....you can't help but play that part.  It's just how the human brain works.

https://www.charleskochinstitute.org/issue-areas/criminal-justice-policing-reform/militarization-of-police/

Even Charles Koch, noted communist libertarian/conservative, has issues with the militarization of the police:

It is law enforcement’s role to guard the public against criminal wrongdoers and restore order, but officers should avoid the use of excessive force, ensure individual due process protections, and respect the moral dignity of every person. In recent years, law enforcement agencies across the country have increasingly adopted tactics, equipment, and a culture that is more akin to those seen in the branches of our military. This current trend has resulted in a clear decrease in legitimacy and trust between communities and law enforcement. When a community does not trust those tasked with protecting their public safety, this negatively impacts law enforcement’s ability to achieve its goals. Proper policing practices require that law enforcement build positive relationships with their community, respect civil liberties, and avoid tactics which encourage the use of excessive force against citizens.

 

[Brisketexan 105,154]

2 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

https://www.charleskochinstitute.org/issue-areas/criminal-justice-policing-reform/militarization-of-police/

Even Charles Koch, noted communist libertarian/conservative, has issues with the militarization of the police:

It is law enforcement’s role to guard the public against criminal wrongdoers and restore order, but officers should avoid the use of excessive force, ensure individual due process protections, and respect the moral dignity of every person. In recent years, law enforcement agencies across the country have increasingly adopted tactics, equipment, and a culture that is more akin to those seen in the branches of our military. This current trend has resulted in a clear decrease in legitimacy and trust between communities and law enforcement. When a community does not trust those tasked with protecting their public safety, this negatively impacts law enforcement’s ability to achieve its goals. Proper policing practices require that law enforcement build positive relationships with their community, respect civil liberties, and avoid tactics which encourage the use of excessive force against citizens.

 

When one of the freaking Kochs thinks you've gone a BIT too fascist....you've definitely gone too fascist.  But now we're getting into a broader commentary on the broken culture of law enforcement, which may or may not be in play in this particular incident.

[South Austin 52,519]

Has Lebron weighed in yet?

[fattyflattie 4,639]

38 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

take a lap

What is controversial about that statement? 

[Brisketexan 105,154]

1 minute ago, South Austin said:

Has Lebron weighed in yet?

I don't judge any such matter until I've heard from Lebron, Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, Flavor Flav, and the official government account of the DPRK.   It's what any intellectually honest person would do.

[Nicole44 22,061]

3 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Has Lebron weighed in yet?

If he had five rings I might pay attention. Four. 

Edited April 26, 2021 by Nicole44

[Huckleberry 32,996]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

It does.....but I'mma wait till I see/know more.  As described.....very not good, very bad, muy malo.  But we need to see it.

Unfortunately I don't have the stomach to watch these anymore. It got me called out on here with the Toledo shooting because I took someone else's (normally very trustworthy) word for what happened before watching the kid be killed myself. I posted based on that and posted something that was wrong and when I was called out on it I watched the whole thing, got sick to my stomach, and posted my mea culpa.

So I hereby nominate you to watch the full video once it happens and then tell me what happens in it. That way I can blame you and not someone off-board for anything wrong.

[Braff Zacklin 13,617]

6 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I don’t understand why we keep fighting a drug war we will never win.

Because our criminal justice system is a glorified racket and incarceration has become a massive industry. Our prison system is more private than public, which means certain corporations have a vested interest in keeping their properties or workforces at max capacity.

The "war on drugs" is the easiest way to ensure occupancy rates remain high, so corporations lobby the shit out of senators and congressmen to ensure the "war" goes on.

[Guest Lobo]

I hope there’s enough hand lotion out there for all the MAQA nation circle jerks tonight in anticipation of North Carolina protests.  

[fattyflattie 4,639]

2 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

So I hereby nominate you to watch the full video once it happens and then tell me what happens in it. That way I can blame you and not someone off-board for anything wrong.

I don’t think you’re going to have that issue with this one.  They’ve held the video far too long for it to be cut and dry in the police’s favor.   

[Brisketexan 105,154]

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

Unfortunately I don't have the stomach to watch these anymore. It got me called out on here with the Toledo shooting because I took someone else's (normally very trustworthy) word for what happened before watching the kid be killed myself. I posted based on that and posted something that was wrong and when I was called out on it I watched the whole thing, got sick to my stomach, and posted my mea culpa.

So I hereby nominate you to watch the full video once it happens and then tell me what happens in it. That way I can blame you and not someone off-board for anything wrong.

Well, it starts with a shot of your mom, undressing very slowly.....doucement.....

[Huckleberry 32,996]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

Well, it starts with a shot of your mom, undressing very slowly.....doucement.....

You can't undress an urn slowly you fool. You have to break it.

[Brisketexan 105,154]

Just now, Huckleberry said:

You can't undress an urn slowly you fool. You have to break it.

I didn't say it was a RECENT video.....

[Braff Zacklin 13,617]

Just now, Huckleberry said:

You can't undress an urn slowly you fool. You have to break it.

You could always tilt and shake, not unlike a container of salt.