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I watch YouTube a lot and there are several people I dig. There’s an Asian guy from LA who does high end kitchen knife porn, some book review people, that aggy guy who likes to shoot all sorts of shit with badass guns, marksman, hunters, a gunsmith, a couple yoga people while the kids love Mai who does ‘magnet world’ and that fucker Blippi.  I have to admit, lots of people put out some really good amateur content that’s informative while also entertaining.

But why… WHY would you listen to and then later worship strange people and charlatans peddling minutiae about wellness, parenting, politics or spirituality? 

If I saw anyone of the people that I watch regularly in the wild it would generate as much attention or excitement from me as seeing a Buc ee’s t-shirt while visiting Oregon. Sort of a “huh, look at that…” 

The outrage that some feel when they discover that people misrepresent themselves to take advantage of fools is equal parts exhausting and delicious. 

Leaked Racist Messages Show ‘Leftist’ YouTuber Isn’t

SocialismDoneLeft is the latest BreadTube personality who isn’t what they say they are.

Over the weekend, online leftists leaked racist and antisemitic Discord messages posted by SocialismDoneLeft, a YouTuber who does socialism and politics explainers and videos. The messages have started a wider conversation in the “Breadtube'' community about the utility of YouTubers in the broader leftist world. 

SocialismDoneLeft is a socialist YouTuber in the broad, loosely categorized group of YouTubers that's been dubbed "BreadTube" by fans. SocialismDoneLeft is in the same vein of YouTubers and streamers like Ian Danskin and Hasan Piker; they make political, societal, and economic explainers and videos that have fostered communities on YouTube, Twitch, and Discord to talk about political issues and activism. 

While SocialismDoneLeft nominally pushes for progressive policies, the leaked Discord messages, which include dozens of overtly racist comments about Black people, antisemitic conspiracy theories, and Islamophobia, show that the public personas of some BreadTubers are at odds with what they say behind the scenes. It also has raised questions about whose side some of these streamers and YouTube personalities are really on. The messages, some of which SocialismDoneLeft has admitted to posting, apparently come from the YouTuber Destiny’s Discord channel and were largely made in 2019. Destiny, who identifies as a liberal, has had his politics come into question when it comes to his stances on Black Lives Matter protests, saying the n-word, capitalism, and popular progressive legislation like the Green New Deal. The utility of broader online debate has also come under scrutiny recently after an awkward and uninformative debate between Destiny and Marxist economist Richard Wolff.

Streamers like SocialismDoneLeft have also debated right wing personalities on their platform. He’s the latest in a long line of podcasters, YouTubers, and people on the “Dirtbag Left” who have actively flirted with, platformed, or otherwise aired views that are either the same as or dangerously close to those espoused by the far right and groups aligned with it, like the Proud Boys. 

SocialismDoneLeft has since apologized for these messages on a Twitch livestream, saying that some of these statements were jokes made for "shock humor," and that he does not use this language anymore, three years later in 2021. He also said that in some cases he was mimicking the language of racists and emphasized that he doesn't find this language acceptable.

When these messages were initially leaked by a Black leftist Twitter user, they said that they anticipated that SocialismDoneLeft would say that some of these messages were jokes. "Why the fuck are black people, Jewish people, and trans people always at the butt of these shitty 'jokes?'" they wrote. "Who were you parodying here? Punchline?"

And that is exactly the point. For years, people online have been making horribly racist, sexist, homophobic, and other bigoted “jokes,” under the guise that they’re “just trolling” or “shitposting.” The problem is that these jokes come at the expense of the people they’re about. They also signal who these online spaces are actively designed for and who is safe to be there. Even if you are in a space that is nominally described as leftist, if you are making jokes at the expense of the marginalized, you are signalling to people that the space wasn't built with them in mind.

Despite SocialismDoneLeft's apology, leftists on Twitter and elsewhere don't seem to be buying it, or at least they don't feel obligated to trust or listen to this person any longer. Recently, other YouTubers and streamers that have been described as Breadtube have begun to question the value of political debates, especially after Destiny and Richard Wolff's stream ended in a wash. 

Personally, if you've made edgy jokes about Black people in the last five years, I'm not sure you need to be the one to educate others on the politics of the left. You might have more learning to do yourself.

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This is why I stick to

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I have some more I subscribe to

Oh, and Vintage Space - my future wife so don't get any ideas.

I don't know why I subscribe to various streaming services, on any given night, there's a dozen or so videos from those folks.

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3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

This is why I stick to

 

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I have some more I subscribe to

Oh, and Vintage Space - my future wife so don't get any ideas.

I don't know why I subscribe to various streaming services, on any given night, there's a dozen or so videos from those folks.

Jesus. When do you find time to sleep?

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19 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Jesus. When do you find time to sleep?

That's like 10 years worth of subscriptions. I come across a channel I like, subscribe.

For whatever reason, I don't know if it's a YouTube thing (make smaller, but more videos) or the amount of time it takes to put those videos together  (which is probably true in many instances, since a lot of them are professionally done), but a helluva lot of those actually have fairly short videos (10-15 minutes or under).  Some of the mudlarking and metal detecting videos can run half an hour or more, and I don't watch most of those.  Quite a few of them can be listened to audio-only while doing other stuff. 

The History Guy and Mark Felton are good examples of ones worth watching while they are keeping it short - many/most of their videos rarely run more than 10 minutes, but then again they are usually covering really niche topics, personalities, or battles.

I used to watch a shit-ton of History Channel shows back in the day.  Now I'd rather watch some of the serious history YouTubers, as they have better presentations, and most of them are doing niche videos without much fluff.  

Unlike the History Channel, they know if they wander all over the place and try to pad things out, people will easily see the "related videos" row of videos (depending on your TV/streaming device) and quickly flip to another video.

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I love the discussions of Heinlein. I always think of the book as militaristic science fiction and the movie as satire of that genre.

The movie is a mix of Dr. Strangelove and Blazing Saddles.

The problem was the female characters in the movie were too fucking hot and some younger gen x guys said - "I want a future like that."  I blame Dizzy.

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11 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

I love the discussions of Heinlein. I always think of the book as militaristic science fiction and the movie as satire of that genre.

The movie is a mix of Dr. Strangelove and Blazing Saddles.

The problem was the female characters in the movie were too fucking hot and some younger gen x guys said - "I want a future like that."  I blame Dizzy.

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Dizzy was the only girl for Rico. Carmen shouldn't have been on his radar. 

The book has a war going on but in the classroom settings, Heinlein was giving his criticism of today's democracy saying it was too cheap, communism with him giving an analogy of a unskillful worker can't make do what a skilled worker can, and the bugs as fascist for their hierarchical nature and no other race other than the bug race. Paul didn't even read the book, and called it fascist cause military, which in it's face isn't apples to apples seeing as we've had a volunteer army for some time now and we're not fascist.

 

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23 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

I love the discussions of Heinlein. I always think of the book as militaristic science fiction and the movie as satire of that genre.

The movie is a mix of Dr. Strangelove and Blazing Saddles.

The problem was the female characters in the movie were too fucking hot and some younger gen x guys said - "I want a future like that."  I blame Dizzy.

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He also did this as well.

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3 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

I love the discussions of Heinlein. I always think of the book as militaristic science fiction and the movie as satire of that genre.

The movie is a mix of Dr. Strangelove and Blazing Saddles.

The problem was the female characters in the movie were too fucking hot and some younger gen x guys said - "I want a future like that."  I blame Dizzy.

Heinlein preferred the term “speculative fiction.”

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On 4/28/2021 at 2:45 AM, washparkhorn said:

Tankies are Stalinists (Roll the tanks into Hungary to put down the protests).

This is a Stalinist getting into it with an establishment socialist.

TLDR: Stalinists suck. They are the dirtbag left.

 

My life was better when I didn’t realize there were idiots on the internet defending the invasion of Budapest.

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On 4/27/2021 at 7:53 PM, SimonBolivar said:

Yale Open Courses

I really enjoyed the one on Greek history.  Turns out the prof is some guiding star for neocons.  Goes to show that what is interesting in the classroom can be bullshit in the real world.  

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