Digital Horse Racing (ZED & NFTs)

[gyroprotagonist 2,595]

8 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Dumb question but how do you get access to Surly discord? I have a discord account but never looked into Surly and I only get an error when attempting to join from the surly home page.

may have to be a treefiddy member.  not sure on that

I posted in the discord, but i'm getting in on this.  played the D&B game all the time and some other racing sim aps.  

got my old coinbase pro login i had not touched since 2018 and had some ETH in there.  went through all the crap to convert it to WETH in the zed site, so hopefully can snag a horse or two.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,476]

finally got the unique invite email... but says 30mins still

Edited May 7, 2021 by MonkeyDoughnut

[PhillyD 1,282]

I got the email at 3:15.  I was able to log in but I can't see the marketplace.  I wasn't going to buy anything anyway, I think I am better off in a group and I can see why so many people are pissed.  It's crazy that some people are paying $20,000 on a site that may or may not be there tomorrow.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,476]

Just now, PhillyD said:

I got the email at 3:15.  I was able to log in but I can't see the marketplace.  I wasn't going to buy anything anyway, I think I am better off in a group and I can see why so many people are pissed.  It's crazy that some people are paying $20,000 on a site that may or may not be there tomorrow.

no kidding... but... if that site is around 1 year from now that $20k horse will likely be over $100k on breeding alone

[ZB'Tejas 594]

2 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

no kidding... but... if that site is around 1 year from now that $20k horse will likely be over $100k on breeding alone

Did not receive an email yet. Had you done anything beyond just creating an account?

[gyroprotagonist 2,595]

i am positive that people already spend that kind of money with micro-transactions with a LOT of aps/games you can play on your phone.  i think the money is there for something like this.  I have seen people spend $50K in a year on a stupid build-up-your-city battle game.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,476]

I feel like I'm in the queue countdown to score a PS5 but instead I'm hoping to buy a .....  virtual horse.... a low end virtual horse for more money.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,476]

people saying Z1s are going for 40K now, Z2 20K.... I'm out... not that I was ever in on those..

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

26 minutes ago, gyroprotagonist said:

may have to be a treefiddy member.  not sure on that

I posted in the discord, but i'm getting in on this.  played the D&B game all the time and some other racing sim aps.  

got my old coinbase pro login i had not touched since 2018 and had some ETH in there.  went through all the crap to convert it to WETH in the zed site, so hopefully can snag a horse or two.

I was wondering if discord was a benefit of a treefiddy subscription. 

[ZB'Tejas 594]

That the top end though... Z10 can be grabbed for a few hundred but you still have to be lucky

[ZB'Tejas 594]

Just now, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I was wondering if discord was a benefit of a treefiddy subscription. 

If that's a barrier we could also do Slack

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

1 minute ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

people saying Z1s are going for 40K now, Z2 20K.... I'm out... not that I was ever in on those..

From a racing standpoint, I think the better price points are a Z3-Z6. Previous drops had a heavy drop in prices after Z2. But for racing, there are plenty of Z4 horses that are better than Z1. Its a crapshoot.  But breeding creates a big demand for Z1 or Z2.

FYI, a non-genesis horse adds the Z#s from its parents. Two Z1 parents create a Z2 horse.  A Z1 and Z5 parents create a Z6.

[henrygandorf 29,201]

1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

From a racing standpoint, I think the better price points are a Z3-Z6. Previous drops had a heavy drop in prices after Z2. But for racing, there are plenty of Z4 horses that are better than Z1. Its a crapshoot.  But breeding creates a big demand for Z1 or Z2.

FYI, a non-genesis horse adds the Z#s from its parents. Two Z1 parents create a Z2 horse.  A Z1 and Z5 parents create a Z6.

do we get to watch the digital horses breed?  if so, i'm out.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

5 minutes ago, ZB'Tejas said:

If that's a barrier we could also do Slack

I can join. I should support Surly more especially if I'm wasting money on digital ponies. But I would like to ensure that gets me access to Discord before I join.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

do we get to watch the digital horses breed?  if so, i'm out.

that's extra.

 

[ZB'Tejas 594]

1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I can join. I should support Surly more especially if I'm wasting money on digital ponies. But I would like to ensure that gets me access to Discord before I join.

I'm pretty sure that's correct but maybe get @immamac to confirm

[PhillyD 1,282]

I was able to see just enough of the current drop to see prices at $37,500 

[ZB'Tejas 594]

Just now, PhillyD said:

I was able to see just enough of the current drop to see prices at $37,500 

Why did you not buy?

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

1 minute ago, PhillyD said:

I was able to see just enough of the current drop to see prices at $37,500 

So you only bought 2 of them?

[Baboontyme 2,840]

Re: discord - I read on the Can you do this better board just now a immamac post from way back confirming that you had to be a tree fiddy member. So I just added the membership, but still no access. @immamac probably needs to provision new members or something. No hurry. If you could just get it done by the Baymont Oaks Race #6 post time that would be swell. I think Nice Guy Eddie has that one set to go off at 4:03 EST. Thanks. 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,476]

fyi- once the link comes you clicked and gave you count down timer to when it begins

then page with blank horses came up for like another 3-4 minutes before they started filling in. At that point "finding" anything was a waste as they would move up and down constantly. Clicking on one would give you another.

I was looking to get a Z7 but never saw a single one.  I may or may not have bought a Z9... it's very confusing as to if I bought or if someone else bought.

Most times clicking buy and getting to pay would return, sorry horse already bought by someone message.

Last one just giving me a "Already purchased" message (different, but don't know if means I got it)... will know in 30 mins or so hopefully

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

I received my invite for 3:15.  When I follow the link now, its asking to confirm my email and they're not sending me a confirmation email. I would hate to miss out on a "cheap" horse because of lack of confirmation.

I guess we have to remember that some of these NFT companies are less than 10 people and the demand is 100K people. They miss the mark from time to time.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,476]

3 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I received my invite for 3:15.  When I follow the link now, its asking to confirm my email and they're not sending me a confirmation email. I would hate to miss out on a "cheap" horse because of lack of confirmation.

I guess we have to remember that some of these NFT companies are less than 10 people and the demand is 100K people. They miss the mark from time to time.

I had had the "confirm email" as well, just ignored and worked...

Also when you buy one apparently does time you out for another 5-15mins before allowing to buy again as more horses just started popping in as available

[gyroprotagonist 2,595]

people are pissed off on the discord channel.  i have not gotten an email yet

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

Damn, I thought I had a few of the horses but when I would get to the last step, it would say they were already purchased.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,476]

same... colossal waste of time.  I know the load was immense, but the execution of Zed's part was pretty pathetic as to how things operated

[immamac 43,584]

44 minutes ago, Baboontyme said:

Re: discord - I read on the Can you do this better board just now a immamac post from way back confirming that you had to be a tree fiddy member. So I just added the membership, but still no access. @immamac probably needs to provision new members or something. No hurry. If you could just get it done by the Baymont Oaks Race #6 post time that would be swell. I think Nice Guy Eddie has that one set to go off at 4:03 EST. Thanks. 

you haven't linked a discord account at all in the admin area. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

36 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

same... colossal waste of time.  I know the load was immense, but the execution of Zed's part was pretty pathetic as to how things operated

I think I clicked on 50 horses that were shown as for-sale. But then I get to the last step and they're sold.  But the horse remains on the for-sale page for the next 10 minutes.

What sucks is that most of the buyers are just going to flip them on the marketplace for a quick buck. I was looking for a decent horse to anchor our stable. Maybe produce new horses.

I know Top Shot got hit hard by bots that are faster than any person can be.  It wouldn't surprise me if Zed wasn't prepared for that. My understanding is that some drops had horses listed for days,

Edited May 7, 2021 by Nice Guy Eddie

[ZB'Tejas 594]

3 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I think I clicked on 50 horses that were shown as for-sale. But then I get to the last step and they're sold.  But the horse remains on the for-sale page for the next 10 minutes.

What sucks is that most of the buyers are just going to flip them on the marketplace for a quick buck. I was looking for a decent horse to anchor our stable. Maybe produce new horses.

 

Still no email for me but If I get any luck in the next drop I will try and get a filly

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

1 minute ago, ZB'Tejas said:

Still no email for me but If I get any luck in the next drop I will try and get a filly

I wouldn't sweat it. I believe this is only the 1st half of sales. The next one is later tonight.

[gyroprotagonist 2,595]

yeah, 2nd round of 'waves' starts at 8pm I think

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,476]

12 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I think I clicked on 50 horses that were shown as for-sale. But then I get to the last step and they're sold.  But the horse remains on the for-sale page for the next 10 minutes.

What sucks is that most of the buyers are just going to flip them on the marketplace for a quick buck. I was looking for a decent horse to anchor our stable. Maybe produce new horses.

I know Top Shot got hit hard by bots that are faster than any person can be.  It wouldn't surprise me if Zed wasn't prepared for that. My understanding is that some drops had horses listed for days,

yeah the appeared to change the logic on the fly. When I first started the horses were flying all over and you wouldn't even get the metamask popup, would say already sold and then horse would disappear from page. Then somewhere along the way the horse just never left and you were stuck trying to click on and process hundreds of horses that had already been purchased.

Just gave me lots of time to wonder to what level this outfit is on the up and up (not completely on how they handled the drop). Far as I know they aren't regulated so there wouldn't be anything against them holding horses to see on secondary market or even rigging races, etc.  When horses were 1K or less wasn't as big deal, but now potential is certainly very large. 

 

I really don't know how they even allowed people to buy more than one horse (or how they even did, but people did).  They should want more people, not less.

 

TLDR:  ranting, I didn't get spend hundreds of dollars on a virtual horse...

[henrygandorf 29,201]

less talky talk, more racey race.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

9 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Just gave me lots of time to wonder to what level this outfit is on the up and up (not completely on how they handled the drop). Far as I know they aren't regulated so there wouldn't be anything against them holding horses to see on secondary market or even rigging races, etc.  When horses were 1K or less wasn't as big deal, but now potential is certainly very large. 

Everyone assumed the poker sites were fair until they discovered that insiders for some sites could see the cards of the other players. It's possible these guys are directing horses to themselves, or friends. Not to mention that they could give their own horses a slight edge that pays off in the long run. 

[gyroprotagonist 2,595]

the fees to turn ETH into WETH were obscene.  Can't imagine the fee to convert $20K worth.  

[ZB'Tejas 594]

28 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I wouldn't sweat it. I believe this is only the 1st half of sales. The next one is later tonight.

Well maybe I can get lucky then. I thought I had read they were going to prioritize those that did not participate in a previous drop so wondering why I have not seen anything.

[ZB'Tejas 594]

1 minute ago, gyroprotagonist said:

the fees to turn ETH into WETH were obscene.  Can't imagine the fee to convert $20K worth.  

This, is Zed making money on that? How many people converted ETH to WETH just to get left high and dry in the drop.

Eddie, did you buy off OpenSea with just Eth? Would I need to convert the WETH back into ETH in my MetaMask to buy there?

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

1 minute ago, ZB'Tejas said:

This, is Zed making money on that? How many people converted ETH to WETH just to get left high and dry in the drop.

Eddie, did you buy off OpenSea with just Eth? Would I need to convert the WETH back into ETH in my MetaMask to buy there?

I had to convert Eth to Weth to buy on Open Sea.  They use the MATIC Open Sea site, so WETH is what you want.  Make sure you use the Zed site to convert it to WETH. I think if you use other sites, it may not work.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

@henrygandorf

first race: https://zed.run/race/GfMCp6cb

This will be our first 1000m race. Let's see how we do. Maybe this is our sweet spot. Sprints.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

Race 2: https://zed.run/race/KBiq4mAi

The last race sucked because we were in last until the last 100m when we sprinted to 5th.  12th would have pushed us back to Class IV. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

Can anyone give me the lowdown on the Discord? Can I use my normal account, or do I need to create a new one? I joined treefiddy for a year and added my normal Discord account in the admin settings. But I get an error when clicking from the front page. 

[henrygandorf 29,201]

4 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Race 2: https://zed.run/race/KBiq4mAi

The last race sucked because we were in last until the last 100m when we sprinted to 5th.  12th would have pushed us back to Class IV. 

yeah, that was crazy.  we were wayyyyyy back there until the very end.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

Some glitches with the last race. I will try more one but maybe their screwed up marketplace is causing problems with the racing.

3rd race up to 2400m: https://zed.run/race/NjzWoqO

 

[gyroprotagonist 2,595]

so, there are no 'stat's other than horse rarity and bloodline intrinsic to the horse, right?  Then once a horse starts racing, W/P/S stats will be accumulated.

Is it left to people to figure out a sweet spot for distance?  I play around with that HRM ap where there are defined stats like speed/stam etc.. and horses are built/bred differently for different distances.  I guess i will start looking at some different channels in the zed discord to see if there are any game mechanics to be had.  or if it's basically a digital version of who can shoot water into the clown's mouth the fastest carney shit show on which horses finishes first.

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,556]

1 minute ago, gyroprotagonist said:

so, there are no 'stat's other than horse rarity and bloodline intrinsic to the horse, right?  Then once a horse starts racing, W/P/S stats will be accumulated.

Is it left to people to figure out a sweet spot for distance?  I play around with that HRM ap where there are defined stats like speed/stam etc.. and horses are built/bred differently for different distances.  I guess i will start looking at some different channels in the zed discord to see if there are any game mechanics to be had.  or if it's basically a digital version of who can shoot water into the clown's mouth the fastest carney shit show on which horses finishes first.

 

Our issue right now is that we're stuck in Class III so we face better competition.  You're not allowed to race down a class. I wonder if we raced up, if that would help us fall. Buy our way back to Class IV or V.

4th race: https://zed.run/race/uI7yN3SR

[henrygandorf 29,201]

based on that one race i watched, i think we need longer races.  it took most of that sprint race for us to wake up.

yesterday we seemed to finish strong on longer races too.

[ZB'Tejas 594]

So I got an email from Zed and clicked on the link... just goes o the sold out page.

[gyroprotagonist 2,595]

Its like 95% people complaining of same thing on discord and Twitter.  Still no email for me yet.  

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,476]

There's a user on reddit dropping some links... I actually got a Z8 in last wave.  I think there are 2 waves left... hoping he drops another link or two

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,476]

two minutes out https://zed.run/marketplace/ca95fb24-859e-4b69-a5cf-953f39707403