2021 Texas HS football

[Gidnik 3,269]

16 hours ago, Bevo said:

I'll be in Iceland in a couple of weeks. It is pretty far north also.

iceland is amazing. make sure you hit up the hot springs they are unbelievable. filled with college girls. 

[Beigebandit 40]

7 hours ago, cmontexas said:

So is Riley gonna move the fam down to Austin to take over for Daddy?

Doubt it! Riley played at Southlake, led them to a state title as a player and is now the head coach. He has no reason to leave unless it for an embarrassingly large bag

[pch 1,259]

10 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

i dont think so. i dont think they beat many of the really good stephenville teams of the late 90's or the permian teams of the late 80s. 

Briles' teams were impressive, but I believe they would be beaten.  I saw all four title wins by Stephenville, a 4A team and believe Westlake would have the guns to outscore their offense and could stifle them defensively.

[cmontexas 3,271]

1 hour ago, Gidnik said:

i dont think so. i dont think they beat many of the really good stephenville teams of the late 90's or the permian teams of the late 80s. 

I was a kid back then and watched Boswell beat Stephenville the opening game in 95, ending their 32 game win streak. The next year a 7-3 Stephenville knocked off state ranked 11-0 Boswell at Floyd Casey in the playoffs. We scrimmaged them every year after that and it was usually somewhat evenly matched (Boswell's DC in those days was Steve Wood).

Those teams would not compete with today's top 6A teams. 2013-2014 Allen would beat any other TXHS team in history imo

[cmontexas 3,271]

1 hour ago, Beigebandit said:

Doubt it! Riley played at Southlake, led them to a state title as a player and is now the head coach. He has no reason to leave unless it for an embarrassingly large bag

There are lots of reasons someone would want to leave Southlake

[Fudge Nuggets 19,190]

16 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

2013-2014 Allen would beat any other TXHS team in history imo

They may not cross midfield against 85 Yates.

[tx 3 putt 76,958]

10 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

They may not cross midfield against 85 Yates.

 

and wouldn't have stopped johnny baily 

[JOSEYWALES66 1,801]

20 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

They may not cross midfield against 85 Yates.

Melvin Foster was such a badass.  
 

85 Yates, 87 Plano and 88 Carter teams were all badass. 

[CooterBrown 18,012]

 
and wouldn't have stopped johnny baily 

I hadn’t realized he died of cancer in 2010. Bailey was the NCAA D2 player of the year 3 times. He was voted 2nd his freshman year. That’s insane at any level.

[pch 1,259]

9 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

I hadn’t realized he died of cancer in 2010. Bailey was the NCAA D2 player of the year 3 times. He was voted 2nd his freshman year. That’s insane at any level.

Growing up in Corpus, it was always excellent getting to see Texas A&I play football, and Bailey was an amazing player. 

[sidis 9,828]

21 hours ago, cmontexas said:

So is Riley gonna move the fam down to Austin to take over for Daddy?

The word around the neighborhood is that Coach Salazar (the DC) will take over. Westlake’s defense over the last three years has clearly been the biggest driver of their success along with Klubnik the last two so it would make sense. 

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14 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

They may not cross midfield against 85 Yates.

Also ‘03 North Shore

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3 hours ago, sidis said:

The word around the neighborhood is that Coach Salazar (the DC) will take over. Westlake’s defense over the last three years has clearly been the biggest driver of their success along with Klubnik the last two so it would make sense. 

Coach Dodge, the alumni, current and former players, and most importantly the other existing coordinators and position coaches overwhelmingly support Salazar as the next head coach. He's been the unsung hero during this run - he deserves his shot.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,190]

15 hours ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

Melvin Foster was such a badass.  
 

85 Yates, 87 Plano and 88 Carter teams were all badass. 

You might have a pretty salty defense when Santana Dotson can't crack the starting 11.

[Ghost of LL 15,531]

2 hours ago, Footballpants said:

Coach Dodge, the alumni, current and former players, and most importantly the other existing coordinators and position coaches overwhelmingly support Salazar as the next head coach. He's been the unsung hero during this run - he deserves his shot.

That's what I've heard.  I think it's a no-brainer.

And that '88 Carter team was amazing.  

[Tyrone Krivacs 50]

The 88 Carter offense was nothing special. They may have had the greatest defense ever, but not the best team. They were tied by Duncanville and had 4 other games decided by 7 points or less.

Edited December 21, 2021 by Tyrone Krivacs

[blacklab 11,929]

Not sure where they rank but this Westlake team is in the neighborhood of the best teams of all time.

Average score for Westlake this year is 57-9. How many teams in state history have averaged a 48 point differential?

 

[Laga4 1,270]

1 hour ago, blacklab said:

Not sure where they rank but this Westlake team is in the neighborhood of the best teams of all time.

Average score for Westlake this year is 57-9. How many teams in state history have averaged a 48 point differential?

You saw them more than I did,  I think last years team was better than this years.

What do you think?

[Ghost of LL 15,531]

47 minutes ago, Laga4 said:

You saw them more than I did,  I think last years team was better than this years.

What do you think?

This year's team was significantly better on defense.  I think it's RB and WR play was also better.

2 hours ago, blacklab said:

Not sure where they rank but this Westlake team is in the neighborhood of the best teams of all time.

Average score for Westlake this year is 57-9. How many teams in state history have averaged a 48 point differential?

I think you do have to account for just how bad Westlake's district is (outside of Lake Travis, that is).

[MaybeACoordinator 8,349]

3 hours ago, blacklab said:

Not sure where they rank but this Westlake team is in the neighborhood of the best teams of all time.

Average score for Westlake this year is 57-9. How many teams in state history have averaged a 48 point differential?

 

Dominance in the championship game should be heavily weighted. Yates absolutely crushed Permian. 37-0 and it wasn't that close. The Lions had 20 tackles for loss in that game. Twenty. Not sure how many plays Permian ran total but 20 is a lot of TFLs.

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1 minute ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Dominance in the championship game should be heavily weighted. Yates absolutely crushed Permian. 37-0 and it wasn't that close. The Lions had 20 tackles for loss in that game. Twenty. Not sure how many plays Permian ran total but 20 is a lot of TFLs.

Permian had a 33 game win streak I think. They walked on the feild with a lot of mojo 

[MaybeACoordinator 8,349]

12 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Permian had a 33 game win streak I think. They walked on the feild with a lot of mojo 

To their credit it was a scoreless tie after a quarter. 

[tx 3 putt 76,958]

4 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

To their credit it was a scoreless tie after a quarter. 

 

[Errestaurants 2,570]

Those mid 90s Lewisville teams were salty as fuck

[blacklab 11,929]

I think this years team was more complete than last years. The defense wasn’t as good last year and although he looked like total ass in the final Klubnik was deadly throughout the year. So many times I would think “why the fuck did he throw it there?” and the ball would float into a receivers hands for a big gain.  Last year he was good but not great. 

[EE2B 1,565]

You can’t have this discussion without including the 1983 Daingerfield team. They outscored their opponents 631-8 with the defense only giving up 6 points. That touchdown came on a long touchdown pass in a game against Carthage. They averaged 40 points a game running the power I.

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11 minutes ago, EE2B said:

You can’t have this discussion without including the 1983 Daingerfield team. They outscored their opponents 631-8 with the defense only giving up 6 points. That touchdown came on a long touchdown pass in a game against Carthage. They averaged 40 points a game running the power I.

best small school team, no doubt 

[cmontexas 3,271]

Those Allen teams had 5 dudes in the NFL plus a laser throwing squirrel at QB who never lost

[sidis 9,828]

18 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

That's what I've heard.  I think it's a no-brainer.

And that '88 Carter team was amazing.  

 

17 hours ago, Tyrone Krivacs said:

The 88 Carter offense was nothing special. They may have had the greatest defense ever, but not the beat team. They were tied by Duncanville and had 4 other games decided by 7 points or less.

Did someone say Jessie Armstead?

[BurntOrange&White 39,933]

I wish Westlake would have went D1 this year to play North Shore and Duncanville.

If they could have stomped those teams as they did everyone else I feel like the pundits and people who cover the sport would be talking of them as a top 3 greatest high school team.

[Zhorn96 1,773]

On 12/20/2021 at 6:12 PM, Ghost of LL said:

This year's team was significantly better on defense.  I think it's RB and WR play was also better.

I think you do have to account for just how bad Westlake's district is (outside of Lake Travis, that is).

Bowie won a couple playoff games and was solidly 3rd best but agree, the rest of the district really regressed this year 

[BurntOrange&White 39,933]

Dylan Raiola will be attending Chandler in Arizona next season as his family is moving back to Arizona.

[Gidnik 3,269]

our 95 and 96 offenses weren't very good at sulphur springs but our defense would have given their offense fits i think. 

[Helobious 9,454]

5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I wish Westlake would have went D1 this year to play North Shore and Duncanville.

If they could have stomped those teams as they did everyone else I feel like the pundits and people who cover the sport would be talking of them as a top 3 greatest high school team.

They might’ve won but I don’t think they were stomping either of those teams. If the state title game version showed up they would’ve straight up lost I would even say. Especially to North Shore. Duncanville I think Westlake could beat with an A- performance.

[TreatyOak 16,332]

3 hours ago, Helobious said:

They might’ve won but I don’t think they were stomping either of those teams. If the state title game version showed up they would’ve straight up lost I would even say. Especially to North Shore. Duncanville I think Westlake could beat with an A- performance.

I think Westlake would never admit it, but after spending all year focusing on Katy and then curb-stomping them, it was really hard of our players to get up for Guyer. If it was North Shore, I think Westlake would have been focused. All credit to Guyer, they came to play.    

[BurntOrangeBlooded15 1,566]

For those still curious about the Decatur debacle, they opened up the job.  New Supe and same board that pushed Fuller out are making the call on who it is. 

[cafe society 2,871]

2 hours ago, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said:

For those still curious about the Decatur debacle, they opened up the job.  New Supe and same board that pushed Fuller out are making the call on who it is. 

Sorry if I'm being slow, but is this a repudiation of the asshat who engineered Fuller's departure?

[BurntOrangeBlooded15 1,566]

53 minutes ago, cafe society said:

Sorry if I'm being slow, but is this a repudiation of the asshat who engineered Fuller's departure?

He’s still a part of it all.  Got escorted out of Midlothian’s Stadium in September, the tapes of him and the old Supe got dropped and a DUI in October (?). Stepped down as board Pres but stayed on the board.  Can link the tapes if wanted.  They’re pretty insane.  Local paper put em on YouTube. 

[BurntOrange&White 39,933]

I can't imagine they'll get a quality coach with all that going on.

[BurntOrangeBlooded15 1,566]

4 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I can't imagine they'll get a quality coach with all that going on.

If they do it’ll be because they’re (new coach) completely clueless.  Don’t think it matters though, I’m guessing school board ex Pres has a guy he wants already. 

Edited December 28, 2021 by BurntOrangeBlooded15

[Herbie Hancock 7,348]

If they do it’ll be because they’re (new coach) completely clueless.  Don’t think it matters though, I’m guessing school board ex Pres has a guy he wants already. 

The HS coaching circle is a very tight one. They all talk to each other. A lot. Only way someone wouldn’t know is if they came straight out of college or from another state. No one with any previous experience in this state will not know the backstory.

[TreatyOak 16,332]

 

[Dennis Taylor 18,828]

1 hour ago, Herbie Hancock said:

The HS coaching circle is a very tight one. They all talk to each other. A lot. Only way someone wouldn’t know is if they came straight out of college or from another state. No one with any previous experience in this state will not know the backstory.

That's true, and someone without HC won't get the job. Might go to a guy nearing retirement looking to get that salary average up. But with batshit boards and sups you never know what might happen when there's an opening 

[LTtxfan 49,188]

Siap...   A grassroots social media movement to address the pay for Florida high school coaches has begun to combat losing top coaching talent to neighboring states.

9 HOURS AGO      DOUG SAMUELS

A coalition fighting for higher coaching pay has popped up for Florida coaches

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Growing up in the midwest around coaches, I heard at least a handful of times every fall how no coach pursues high school coaching because of the pay that comes with it. 

With some of the top high school jobs in Georgia and Texas known to pay six figures now, perhaps saying "few" coaches pursue the coaching profession at the high school level is a more accurate statement nowadays. 

Now, granted, those types of jobs come with a different level of pressure and expectations, but the fact remains that coaching high school ball can provide a comfortable living for a select few. 

One of the states that annually churns out some of the football talent for college and the NFL is Florida, and coaches there have been vocal about wanting more for their coaching stipends for a while now.

The stipend for Florida coaches is likely pretty comparable to what coaches in Michigan, or Ohio, or California get.

However, the main difference is those states aren't losing their top coaching talent to those nearby states like Georgia and Texas. In those states, administrations are more than willing to pay six figure salaries to coaches and are also willing to get rather creative with their coaching stipends.

A grassroots movement to address the issue has popped up with a new Twitter account and hashtag promoting calling themselves the Florida Coalition For Higher Coaching Salaries.

The account tweeted out a letter (see below) sharing their objectives and why they're passionate about their mission to get higher coaching salaries to high school coaches in The Sunshine State.

Time will tell whether the group is able to get some traction and make the waves required to enact change.

 

Folks trying to get pay increases for Florida High School football coaches...

 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,236]

13 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Siap...   A grassroots social media movement to address the pay for Florida high school coaches has begun to combat losing top coaching talent to neighboring states.

9 HOURS AGO      DOUG SAMUELS

A coalition fighting for higher coaching pay has popped up for Florida coaches

 

Folks trying to get pay increases for Florida High School football coaches...

 

Wow.. says Florida HC gets only around 3-5K extra (above teaching pay) depending on county and experience.  Looking at Texas pay where over 200 coaches make six figures. Florida's stipend is about what our district pays for middle school football HC.

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On 12/27/2021 at 6:22 PM, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said:

For those still curious about the Decatur debacle, they opened up the job.  New Supe and same board that pushed Fuller out are making the call on who it is. 

Not surprised. Unless the interim coach won state this year, they were going to open it up. Think we see a whole new coaching staff next year, boys and girls.

It’s a cluster f 

[TreatyOak 16,332]

As a tribute to @Ricky's one-hitter, here is my final Westlake Sunshine Pumping post of the year. @Helobious was correct, as Chaps QB Cade Klubnik was named National System Player of the Year. The award is given to "the physically and mentally limited player who most benefits from being in a superior system." 

 

 

And Chaps Coach Dodge was voted National Underdog Coach of the Year for his "success in leading players with physical limitations in regards to ethnicity, size and speed."

I really enjoyed this season, as our rag-tag team of underdog misfits somehow managed to overcome huge disadvantages in resources to finish ranked #2 in nation by Max Preps. Here's to the David's of the world!

Joking aside, this 2021 squad is probably my favorite Westlake team and I would put this 3-year run up there as one of the greatest in Texas HS football history. And yes, we didn't play North Shore, but we beat them last year when they were arguably better. Cheers and health to you all in 2022. @Beau Vine thanks for your amazing contributions. 

 

[Scholz 11,943]

15 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

...to finish ranked #2 in nation by Max Preps. 

1st loser 

[TexasBeta 1,261]

On 12/21/2021 at 8:53 AM, sidis said:

 

Did someone say Jessie Armstead?

F that dude.. His choice of Miami began the flow of big time recruits out of Texas.. I remember it to this day. 

[SHOOTER12 8,810]

9 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

As a tribute to @Ricky's one-hitter, here is my final Westlake Sunshine Pumping post of the year. @Helobious was correct, as Chaps QB Cade Klubnik was named National System Player of the Year. The award is given to "the physically and mentally limited player who most benefits from being in a superior system." 

 

 

And Chaps Coach Dodge was voted National Underdog Coach of the Year for his "success in leading players with physical limitations in regards to ethnicity, size and speed."

I really enjoyed this season, as our rag-tag team of underdog misfits somehow managed to overcome huge disadvantages in resources to finish ranked #2 in nation by Max Preps. Here's to the David's of the world!

Joking aside, this 2021 squad is probably my favorite Westlake team and I would put this 3-year run up there as one of the greatest in Texas HS football history. And yes, we didn't play North Shore, but we beat them last year when they were arguably better. Cheers and health to you all in 2022. @Beau Vine thanks for your amazing contributions. 

 

Always love reading these posts, and can't wait until next season to start reading them again. +Rep