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C-Man

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23 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

I loathe Northern California. SF is a fucking dump.  I've enjoyed Southern California many times.  LA is a fucking insane food town.  I couldn't afford to live there, but I certainly don't mine visiting on putting on a few lbs.   I've always like San Diego the best, tho, although the last time I was there I was kinda shocked by the homeless and filth in the Gaslight.  Like, we bailed early from a bar because we were a little worried about late night crime.  Has a very Dirty Sixth vibe these days.

I've only been up there three times but I loved Carmel/Big Sur. I thought San Francisco was cool -- but that was nearly 20 years ago.

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11 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I've only been up there three times but I loved Carmel/Big Sur. I thought San Francisco was cool -- but that was nearly 20 years ago.

It's changed noticeably over the 15 years I've been travelling their periodically for work.

I will say:  I love Marin County.  I get that.  It's so fucking nice. Point Reyes is the tits.

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The Bay Area and Northern California in general are gorgeous. San Francisco and the surrounding area, much like Austin (probably more so being the true epicenter) seems to have had much of it’s former soul devoured by tech bro hegemony. Shame.

I’d probably give SF a try if the opportunity came up because it’s largely the opposite of everything I loathe about TX. Wouldn’t be surprised if I just found it to be the equal and opposite reaction, but I’d give it a try. If I ever got fuck you rich, the Marin/Sonoma/Napa/Mendocino County area would be on the shortlist for sure. It’s beautiful up there.

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59 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Well back to recall news - 

SurveyUSA has it down to 36% support.  

https://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=e3ae1d7e-9d6e-44b2-b1f8-e51c51df9ea2

If the recall vote somehow won, the leading contenders are: Would not support any of the announced candidates (all Republicans) at 38% and Undecided at 26%. 

Can't believe Mary Carey is not getting more love.

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Well back to recall news - 

SurveyUSA has it down to 36% support.  

https://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=e3ae1d7e-9d6e-44b2-b1f8-e51c51df9ea2

If the recall vote somehow won, the leading contenders are: Would not support any of the announced candidates (all Republicans) at 38% and Undecided at 26%. 

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22 hours ago, Lobo said:

I'm a little gay and a little Republican.  

Anecdotal and all, but I know 4 gay men who worked for, or were appointed to prominent roles, by Bush 43.  2 of them are also Hispanic.  3 of them still work in Republican politics today, 1 of whom went on to serve as an extremely high ranking member of the Dept. of Commerce.  If I can think of 4 just in one little corner of politics, there have to be tens of thousands of LGBTQ+ conservatives.  Likely in the hundreds of thousands.  

Rick Perry?

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22 hours ago, Lobo said:

I'm a little gay and a little Republican.  

Anecdotal and all, but I know 4 gay men who worked for, or were appointed to prominent roles, by Bush 43.  2 of them are also Hispanic.  3 of them still work in Republican politics today, 1 of whom went on to serve as an extremely high ranking member of the Dept. of Commerce.  If I can think of 4 just in one little corner of politics, there have to be tens of thousands of LGBTQ+ conservatives.  Likely in the hundreds of thousands.  

DC was crawling with closeted GOP gay men during 43.  I have several gay work colleagues who were on the hill back then and they’d always point out the ones on the DL. 

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1 hour ago, Bateshorn said:

DC was crawling with closeted GOP gay men during 43.  I have several gay work colleagues who were on the hill back then and they’d always point out the ones on the DL. 

Everyone knows Grindr and local gay escort services explode during the RNC. 

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On 5/6/2021 at 10:37 AM, DonkeyCigars said:

Deconstruct why you think this (if this is in reference to me). I guess there is a chance I'm "trolling" unintentionally, would like to know what to avoid so in the future I don't make you feel this way.

The only way you can do that is to post things approved by him.

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11 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

West Marin County is my favorite part of the world but the global warming thing is hitting it pretty hard.

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All the west coast cities SF and north do "dumpy" pretty well.  But the surrounding country is too nice for it to be a deal breaker.

nick's cove! is this your pic? that whole area is magical. 

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for those of you who live in the bay area, what's the dissatisfaction level with chesa boudin?  is it even something people are paying attention to?
I live in San Francisco. Im not aware that he's a thing. What's the story?


For the SoCal / NoCal discussion, I moved here from my native San Diego almost 8 years ago. I love San Diego and thought I'd never leave, but now I dont ever see myself going back. San Diego is beautiful and warm, but it lacks the variety of Bay Area.


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56 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

for those of you who live in the bay area, what's the dissatisfaction level with chesa boudin?  is it even something people are paying attention to?

I’d say it’s very high and reached a fever pitch after the hit and runs, which triggered the recall petitions. It’s not necessary his policy stances, it’s just that he’s a very poor vessel for his message and folks really would appreciate a focus on QOL crimes. 

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54 minutes ago, AnotherUTFan said:

I live in San Francisco. Im not aware that he's a thing. What's the story?
 

chesa boudin is the DA, he got elected on a platform of deincarceration with alternatives of treatment reform but there's been an effort to recall him as a couple criminals have committed murders after he's released them.  his critics claim he doesn't have a plan for deincarceration as much as he just refuses to prosecute cases. 

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chesa boudin is the DA, he got elected on a platform of deincarceration with alternatives of treatment reform but there's been an effort to recall him as a couple criminals have committed murders after he's released them.  his critics claim he doesn't have a plan for deincarceration as much as he just refuses to prosecute cases. 

That’s a shame, because I really like boudin.
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37 minutes ago, We’reTexas said:

I’d say it’s very high and reached a fever pitch after the hit and runs, which triggered the recall petitions. It’s not necessary his policy stances, it’s just that he’s a very poor vessel for his message and folks really would appreciate a focus on QOL crimes. 

 

what do you mean he's a poor vessel for his message? 

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31 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

 

what do you mean he's a poor vessel for his message? 

He constantly cites his childhood growing up seeing his parents in prison as his inspiration for a career addressing the disparate impact of the justice system on minorities. This is fine, except, as you’re probably aware, that his parents were involved in the murders of three security guards and police officers during the Brinks robbery and he had the privilege of having a stable childhood and an elite education. He has never been able to comprehend the magnitude of his parents’ involvement in those murders and seems to believe they were almost innocent bystanders (that piece was the harshest I’ve ever seen him be on them). He seems unaware the story he sells elicits no sympathy and actively hurts his image, but self-awareness is not the strong suit for a guy who worked for Hugo Chavez’s government and wrote a cringe-inducing book romanticizing it.

More to the point, San Francisco is not really a city in drastic need of progressive criminal justice reform. I support many policies and ideas that are considered to fall within that sphere, but I think cities like New Orleans and Baltimore, with significant drug violence and histories of police corruption, are places that need serious institutional restructuring. San Franciscans don’t really care about white collar crime and police brutality because these aren’t problems. Car break-ins, petty theft and violence among the homeless are huge problems, but as you note, these aren’t of much interest to Chesa. It’s important to note that he came to office in a low-turnout special election, so he doesn’t have much of an electoral mandate. 

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28 minutes ago, We’reTexas said:

He constantly cites his childhood growing up seeing his parents in prison as his inspiration for a career addressing the disparate impact of the justice system on minorities. This is fine, except, as you’re probably aware, that his parents were involved in the murders of three security guards and police officers during the Brinks robbery and he had the privilege of having a stable childhood and an elite education. He has never been able to comprehend the magnitude of his parents’ involvement in those murders and seems to believe they were almost innocent bystanders (that piece was the harshest I’ve ever seen him be on them). He seems unaware the story he sells elicits no sympathy and actively hurts his image, but self-awareness is not the strong suit for a guy who worked for Hugo Chavez’s government and wrote a cringe-inducing book romanticizing it.

More to the point, San Francisco is not really a city in drastic need of progressive criminal justice reform. I support many policies and ideas that are considered to fall within that sphere, but I think cities like New Orleans and Baltimore, with significant drug violence and histories of police corruption, are places that need serious institutional restructuring. San Franciscans don’t really care about white collar crime and police brutality because these aren’t problems. Car break-ins, petty theft and violence among the homeless are huge problems, but as you note, these aren’t of much interest to Chesa. It’s important to note that he came to office in a low-turnout special election, so he doesn’t have much of an electoral mandate. 

thanks for the well written and cited reply.  i actually thought him growing up without his parents would lend credibility to his backstory- a tailwind to his moral quest.  but you bring up a good point i didn't consider in that SF isn't in need of that kind of superhero.  someone needs to send up the bat signal.  and by bat signal i mean mid 90s rudy giuliani signal. 

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On 5/9/2021 at 10:45 PM, troph said:

For the record, fuck Caitlyn Jenner, she’s not our friend. 

weird interview: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/politics/caitlyn-jenner-dana-bash-interview/index.html

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"I didn't even vote," Jenner told Bash in a wide-ranging interview at her home in Malibu. "Out here in California, it's like, why vote for a Republican president? It's just not going to work. I mean, it's overwhelming."

"It was voting day and I thought the only thing out here in California that I worry about, which affects people, is the propositions that were out there," she said. "And I didn't see any propositions that I really had one side or the other. And so it was Election Day and I just couldn't get excited about it. And I just wound up going to play golf and I said, 'I'm not doing that.' "

Complete voter apathy but she wants to be governor.

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

weird interview: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/politics/caitlyn-jenner-dana-bash-interview/index.html

Complete voter apathy but she wants to be governor.

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"Out here in California, it's like, why vote for a Republican governor? It's just not going to work. I mean, it's overwhelming."

Sorry Caitlyn, this isn't 2003 anymore.  California's last gubernatorial elections Arnold was re-elected:

  • 2010 - D+13
  • 2014 - D+20
  • 2018 - D+24

2010/2014 were two of the most miserable years in terms of Dem turnout in history and the GOP still could not get within single digits of the governor's chair.

Stop trying to make a GOP governor happen in California.  It's been 15 years since the last time one managed to get elected and that GOP doesn't exist anymore. 

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5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Sorry Caitlyn, this isn't 2003 anymore.  California's last gubernatorial elections Arnold was re-elected:

  • 2010 - D+13
  • 2014 - D+20
  • 2018 - D+24

2010/2014 were two of the most miserable years in terms of Dem turnout in history and the GOP still could not get within single digits of the governor's chair.

Stop trying to make a GOP governor happen in California.  It's been 15 years since the last time one managed to get elected and that GOP doesn't exist anymore. 

I don't see why not. Same for Texas being blue, isn't going to stop happening. Why should republicans? It probably won't happen, but it's political suicide if you don't try. Like I said, California Republicans don't seem to have a libertarian bent to'em at all, so I don't really care, but politically it would be dumb.

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2 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

I don't see why not. Same for Texas being blue, isn't going to stop happening. Why should republicans? It probably won't happen, but it's political suicide if you don't try. Like I said, California Republicans don't seem to have a libertarian bent to'em at all, so I don't really care, but politically it would be dumb.

It should be pointed out that the GOP has run real shitheads in those elections. 

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2 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

It should be pointed out that the GOP has run real shitheads in those elections. 

CA 2010-present: Meg Whitman, Neel Kashkari, John Cox, Caitlyn Jenner.

Texas 2010-present: Bill White, Wendy Davis, Lupe Valdez. 

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