Pipeline Problem Potentially Problematic, production possibly paralyzed

[Wally Fairway 5600]

besides the pipeline, it looks like gasbuddy.com is also not available. in addition to not being able to access the app for a couple of days, when I did get in none of the local stations had any pricing and it says it can't find my favorites list. 
Hey DeHaan, quit making public statements and get your shit together

[Fudge Nuggets 19276]

Just now, Judge Roybeanbag said:

Yeah, don't do that.  Put it in a big styrofoam cooler instead.

This is an especially good idea if the supply chain shortages have impacted your napalm supply.

[ztejas 43743]

2 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

besides the pipeline, it looks like gasbuddy.com is also not available. in addition to not being able to access the app for a couple of days, when I did get in none of the local stations had any pricing and it says it can't find my favorites list. 
Hey DeHaan, quit making public statements and get your shit together

Noticed a day or two ago in Austin that Google maps wasn't displaying prices on stations like it normally does. And 2 days ago the closest spot was out of everything but the super premium bullshit. Then late last night I went to the closest station to my house and filled up for $2.59 and thought... hmmm this doesn't seem like a gas crisis. 

[fattyflattie 4639]

21 minutes ago, GringoSalado said:

Run it to the vent line and it isn't gravity fed. That's what most guys w/ transfer tanks do, from the tank into a tee fitting spliced into the filler vent. So fuel transfers to main tank as fuel pump empties it out and draws new fuel in through the vent  /csb

That may be what it was. I know some DOT gave him shit for it but he kept it, so maybe DOT was wrong. Or story got fucked up.  I’ve drank ALOT since those days.  

[The Maestro 762]

15 hours ago, Incredulity said:

 

Holy shit
 

 

2 hours ago, bolverk said:

 

Edited May 12, 2021 by The Maestro

[fattyflattie 4639]

This is an especially good idea if the supply chain shortages have impacted your napalm supply.

Napalm you say?




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[Telegraph_it 3371]

Lulz. Anyone need a job!

 

[Guadaloopy 11039]

[Judge Roybeanbag 11824]

1 hour ago, fattyflattie said:

That may be what it was. I know some DOT gave him shit for it but he kept it, so maybe DOT was wrong. Or story got fucked up.  I’ve drank ALOT since those days.  

Back in the late 70s early 80s a lot of the farmers/ranchers had their trucks converted to run on either propane or gas.  Some gas tractors ran on propane too.  

 

[fattyflattie 4639]

19 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

Back in the late 70s early 80s a lot of the farmers/ranchers had their trucks converted to run on either propane or gas.  Some gas tractors ran on propane too.  

 

10/4 yeah I’ve been around some of that.  This was more I don’t want to stop for diesel every few hours so will plumb in the 150gal transfer tank and never worry about that type of deal.  

[Johnny Sack 8397]

4 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

10/4 yeah I’ve been around some of that.  This was more I don’t want to stop for diesel every few hours so will plumb in the 150gal transfer tank and never worry about that type of deal.  

Our ranch trucks all have those diesel tank/toolbox combos.  I think they hold around 90 gallons in auxiliary.

I am about to by a used F250 from an uncle -- he is the type of dude you absolutely want his used cars.  He upgrades everything, garage stores it (yes, even his F250), puts about 5,000 miles a year on it (he has other vehicles), and keeps it in immaculate condition.  Be nice to top off my tanks at the ranch.

[Chewbacca 7793]

2 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

besides the pipeline, it looks like gasbuddy.com is also not available. in addition to not being able to access the app for a couple of days, when I did get in none of the local stations had any pricing and it says it can't find my favorites list. 
Hey DeHaan, quit making public statements and get your shit together

The app worked for me last night.

[Parliament 14371]

Our ranch trucks all have those diesel tank/toolbox combos.  I think they hold around 90 gallons in auxiliary.
I am about to by a used F250 from an uncle -- he is the type of dude you absolutely want his used cars.  He upgrades everything, garage stores it (yes, even his F250), puts about 5,000 miles a year on it (he has other vehicles), and keeps it in immaculate condition.  Be nice to top off my tanks at the ranch.

And plumb the service tank right in to the injection pump. Offroad diesel, Baby!

[Chewbacca 7793]

47 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

How were they feeling when they had no power back in Feb?

[Incredulity 11687]

Few months ago I watched some jackass pour acetone into a styrofoam coffee cup trying to take some to where he was working on a job.  Moron.

No idea why he didn’t just take the can of acetone.  But, then again humans continue to amaze me. Not in a good way.

[Storm the Field 5305]

 

[Guadaloopy 11039]

8 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

How were they feeling when they had no power back in Feb?

Just fine while sitting in their heated car in the garage watching Netflix, not worried about CO poisoning.  It’s not like they were going to drive anywhere.  

[Johnny Sack 8397]

24 minutes ago, Parliament said:

31 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Our ranch trucks all have those diesel tank/toolbox combos.  I think they hold around 90 gallons in auxiliary.
I am about to by a used F250 from an uncle -- he is the type of dude you absolutely want his used cars.  He upgrades everything, garage stores it (yes, even his F250), puts about 5,000 miles a year on it (he has other vehicles), and keeps it in immaculate condition.  Be nice to top off my tanks at the ranch.

And plumb the service tank right in to the injection pump. Offroad diesel, Baby!

[Wally Fairway 5600]

19 minutes ago, Storm the Field said:

 

Ugh, just what we needed, a Canadian ex-governor of Michigan

[Judge Roybeanbag 11824]

39 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Few months ago I watched some jackass pour acetone into a styrofoam coffee cup trying to take some to where he was working on a job.  Moron.

No idea why he didn’t just take the can of acetone.  But, then again humans continue to amaze me. Not in a good way.

I once saw a guy dump a little bit of some sketchy looking meth into a styrofoam cup of coffee.  He didn't stir it and it melted a hole through the bottom after a couple of minutes.

[fattyflattie 4639]

43 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Bypass main tank, run red diesel.  But there are pesky return lines.   Might work on some old stuff.  

[Dahobbs 17808]

1 hour ago, Chewbacca said:

How were they feeling when they had no power back in Feb?

About the same as everyone else since the pumps didn't work without power either. 

[Royalfan5 2355]

1 hour ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

Back in the late 70s early 80s a lot of the farmers/ranchers had their trucks converted to run on either propane or gas.  Some gas tractors ran on propane too.  

 

Still plenty of 585 M-M propane irrigation motors running on top of the Ogllala Aquifer today that date back to the 60s and 70’s.

[Parliament 14371]

Rather than having the engine (injection pump) draw from the factory tank, filled with taxed, road fuel, you fuel it with the untaxed offroad fuel from the service tank. Cop'll never figure it out.. 80's era Chevy's with dual tanks we especially easy to modify.

[atomheartbevo 90053]

5 hours ago, Incredulity said:

Few months ago I watched some jackass pour acetone into a styrofoam coffee cup trying to take some to where he was working on a job.  Moron.

No idea why he didn’t just take the can of acetone.  But, then again humans continue to amaze me. Not in a good way.

Are you sure he wasn't reading an 80s copy of the Anarchist Cookbook?

[Incredulity 11687]

Pretty sure the dude was illiterate, or at least highly regarded 

[swraith 347]

With the pipeline restarting, hope the people in those photos enjoy sitting on their stockpiles of gasoline.

[F250 28944]

12 hours ago, JFKFC said:

 

Reading that gave me a chubby. That was my wheelhouse when I was a consultant. These places often find the need to implement security after the fact. They can't usually afford to hire adequate employees to actually figure out how to build a security program so they just throw money at consultants to design their program. The newly hired security leadership usually doesn't know what the fuck they are doing so it becomes a buffet for a security consulting firm.

 

 

[Michael Knight 13049]

[Guest Lobo]

Statistically speaking one of these fuel hoarders is gonna park their barrels next to their meth lab.  And Fourth of July come early.  

[Telegraph_it 3371]

These folks have the brain capacity to fill a barrel, plastic container, or trash bag with gas.

Do they now have enough capacity to siphon the gas into their gas tank?

[TexasPride10 580]

2 hours ago, Telegraph_it said:

These folks have the brain capacity to fill a barrel, plastic container, or trash bag with gas.

Do they now have enough capacity to siphon the gas into their gas tank?

That's been my first thought every time I've seen one of those pictures. "How the fuck do you plan on getting that into your car's tank?" 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

2 minutes ago, TexasPride10 said:

That's been my first thought every time I've seen one of those pictures. "How the fuck do you plan on getting that into your car's tank?" 

  Mine was over under on how long before we hear a report of cars suddenly exploding all over the eastern seaboard.

[bernorange 8374]

4 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

 

[WhatTheBuck 28830]

Pfffft.

[Armybrat 40992]

choobacca beat me to it.

Edited May 13, 2021 by Armybrat

[Goredho 17510]

On 5/11/2021 at 3:57 PM, F250 said:

 

I've heard the same, IT was breached but not OT. Which doesn't really surprise me that much. It's pretty common for this to happen on the IT side while OT is left alone. I've responded to several incidents where the IT was breached and OT was untouched despite there being poor segmentation. No real reason for attackers to stop in IT other than avoiding the hornets nest it would stir. My theory was always that no one outside of state actors were going to fuck with OT and the criminal groups would stick with the IT soft underbelly.

 

 

So no Stuxnet counter fire possibility here?

[F250 28944]

14 minutes ago, Goredho said:

So no Stuxnet counter fire possibility here?

Nah, more than likely this was someone just doing a smash and grab without paying too much attention to the company they were attacking.

State actors often breach the OT network and just lay low and don't fuck with shit waiting for some Order 66 to come. I doubt this was a government sanctioned attack.

[Message Board User 12397]

 

[Captainant 27972]

Man, I'd love to know more about this cryptolocker attack. What was the entry vector? How did it spread? How the shit did they not detect this happening? Do they not have a NOC/SOC??

[Michael Knight 13049]

33 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Man, I'd love to know more about this cryptolocker attack. What was the entry vector? How did it spread? How the shit did they not detect this happening? Do they not have a NOC/SOC??

I mean the past 10 years experts have been yelling about how vulnerable our infrastructure is to outside attack.

[Pescado_Rojo 19453]

42 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Man, I'd love to know more about this cryptolocker attack. What was the entry vector? How did it spread? How the shit did they not detect this happening? Do they not have a NOC/SOC??

Guarantee they phished some 60-something who clicked on a URL and downloaded the package. 

[Brisketexan 105572]

8 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Guarantee they phished some 60-something who clicked on a URL and downloaded the package. 

Look, man, the dude saw a link for a limited-time special deal for low-priced boner pills -- HOW COULD HE SAY NO?

[Captainant 27972]

15 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Guarantee they phished some 60-something who clicked on a URL and downloaded the package. 

I agree - I mentioned earlier in the thread that I'd bet the endpoints were the vulnerability in this hack, not the network itself. It's crazy how simple it is to enforce endpoint protection for a fleet of managed devices, but I also know how many businesses DON'T take such precautions. It's usually smaller businesses and older businesses that lag behind on basic security best practices.

Gonna be a very interesting post-mortem whenever we get more details

[Doc Reeves 6434]

SIAP

Pipeline may have been shut down because hacker hit company’s billing system and execs were afraid they wouldn’t be able to bill people correctly

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New details from within Colonial Pipeline have come to light surrounding the decision to shut off supply. Those briefed on the matter have suggested that fuel flows were shut down due to the company's billing system being compromised. Company officials were reportedly concerned that they would not be able to accurately bill customers for fuel delivered, and chose to stop delivery instead.

No evidence available has pointed to the pipeline's operational systems actually being compromised. Of course, in the wake of the initial hack, the full scale of the ransomware's penetration into company systems would have been unknown. Thus, the decision to shutdown could easily be explained as taking a highly cautious approach.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/40583/the-colonial-pipeline-is-finally-back-online-and-pumping-gas

[Guest Lobo]

ERCOT Governor-appointed officials were unavailable to comment on this possibility as all passed out from post-climax trauma with notes saying “Holy shit; that’s a thing?”

[Hagbard Celine 10995]

18 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

SIAP

Pipeline may have been shut down because hacker hit company’s billing system and execs were afraid they wouldn’t be able to bill people correctly

https://www.thedrive.com/news/40583/the-colonial-pipeline-is-finally-back-online-and-pumping-gas

a quick scan of their careers reveals they are running legacy oracle

[Michael Knight 13049]

 

[Judge Roybeanbag 11824]

1 hour ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Guarantee they phished some 60-something who clicked on a URL and downloaded the package. 

Most of the successful phishing attacks I've seen over the past few years have been that - board of director types and senior management, who either don't get cybersecurity training or don't pay attention when they do.  

[Michael Knight 13049]