Jump to content

Pam and Tommy Starring Sebastian Stan and Lily James

Viper

By Viper
in Movies and TV

 Share

Recommended Posts

henrygandorf

henrygandorf 29,191

Posted
Posted
23 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

The way Lee is portrayed here is a complete 180 from in The Dirt, the Crue biography movie on Netflix. In The Dirt, he’s a good natured doofus. In this, he’s a megalomaniac. I guess the truth is probably somewhere in between.

the dirt was "written by" the band, wasn't it?  this seems like it was from the perspective of rogen's character, though i'm not familiar with the source material (article).

i wouldn't expect anything from the dirt to be that accurate or overly negative about the band.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bateshorn

Bateshorn 9,928

Posted
Posted
19 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

the dirt was "written by" the band, wasn't it?  this seems like it was from the perspective of rogen's character, though i'm not familiar with the source material (article).

i wouldn't expect anything from the dirt to be that accurate or overly negative about the band.

The Dirt does not portray the band in a good light.  It portrays them in all the light. Good, bad, ugly.  It’s probably one of the best rock biopics ever done.  Because Crue thrived on chaos, I don’t think they blocked much going in the book. 
 

The only person who comes out half decent is Mick Mars.  The rest were total degenerates.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Js1

Js1 85,353

Posted
Posted
6 minutes ago, Junior Miller said:

I'm shocked any streaming site still releases all at once when stretching shows out keeps people who only subscribe for 1 or 2 shows on the hook longer than a single month. 

Netflix does bc they pump out a lot (of shit) so you feel like it’s hard to unsubscribe. Hulu and Disney and Apple release less so they can spread it out and maintain subscribers.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Deej

Deej 76,811

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

i'm enjoying the shit out of this so far.

agreed that the rogan/offerman storyline is more entertaining right now and i'm not sure it's close.

the devolving chain of porn company pitch meetings was great.

Offerman is fantastic.

  • Hook 'Em 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Eskimohorn

Eskimohorn 5,635

Posted
Posted

Saw the highlights of the sex scenes. Jesus Christ!

If the moral of the story was about the consequences of invasion of privacy, then they recreate all of that for our entertainment pleasure, without their permission, then they failed miserably because they are part of the story now.

Its like Mel Gibson’s Hacksaw Ridge - a movie about a pacifist in World War 2, which was a movie that also glorified battle scenes with war porn. Conflicting messages.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
TrashMaster G

TrashMaster G 17,558

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:

Its like Mel Gibson’s Hacksaw Ridge - a movie about a pacifist in World War 2, which was a movie that also glorified battle scenes with war porn. Conflicting messages.

What a load of crap.  The movie tells the story in context.  It shows, quite effectively, what Doss went through and survived in order to stick to his principles.  The movie did not send conflicting messages, the conflict was the story.

  • Hook 'Em 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Eskimohorn

Eskimohorn 5,635

Posted
Posted
What a load of crap.  The movie tells the story in context.  It shows, quite effectively, what Doss went through and survived in order to stick to his principles.  The movie did not send conflicting messages, the conflict was the story.

The battle scenes could have been straight out of Tropic Thunder. I think I saw 2-3 trampolines where dudes jumped like storm troopers after bombs exploded. Battle scenes looking cool with CGI, and dramatic music, sell tickets and save money for the studio. But they’re not successful in demonstrating the horrors of violence, especially when the main protagonist is a pacifist. Its like whats his problem? I thought he was a pussy until he saved all those soldiers.

Had Gibson searched his own resume, he could have watched Gallipoli. When you watch that movie, you’re like, “no fuckin way!”

Getting back to Pam Anderson. The premise of the movie is that she was exploited in the 90’s and had her privacy violated. But, now she’s being exploited again with this movie, recreating and lampooning and sexualizing her likeness. I havent watched the movie, so I dont know the full context. Is this wrong?
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Js1

Js1 85,353

Posted
Posted
4 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:


Getting back to Pam Anderson. The premise of the movie is that she was exploited in the 90’s and had her privacy violated. But, now she’s being exploited again with this movie, recreating and lampooning and sexualizing her likeness. I havent watched the movie, so I dont know the full context. Is this wrong?

To my knowledge, she hasn't said how she feels about this show telling her story.  Lake Bell says it's giving her a voice at a time (the 90s) when there was no voice given. 

But I have seen some people (Is Hulu’s ‘Pam & Tommy’ Exploiting Pamela Anderson All Over Again? | Vanity Fair) saying exactly what you're saying - if she's not involved in any way, isn't this just exploiting her all over again?

It's different than American Crime Story: Impeachment, because Monica Lewinsky was heavily involved as a co-producer. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Eskimohorn

Eskimohorn 5,635

Posted
Posted
To my knowledge, she hasn't said how she feels about this show telling her story.  Lake Bell says it's giving her a voice at a time (the 90s) when there was no voice given. 
But I have seen some people (Is Hulu’s ‘Pam & Tommy’ Exploiting Pamela Anderson All Over Again? | Vanity Fair) saying exactly what you're saying - if she's not involved in any way, isn't this just exploiting her all over again?
It's different than American Crime Story: Impeachment, because Monica Lewinsky was heavily involved as a co-producer. 

It really comes down to the idea of biopics of contemporary figures. They can be done, but the degree of difficulty gets higher without the parties cooperation.

Imagine them recreating the Monica cigar scenes and having an actress smear CGI semen off her face, partly as a goof. Thats kind of the vibe I saw in the Pam/Tommy Lee clip.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing


Football ... Basketball ... Baseball ... Other Sports ... Futbol ... 🤫995🤫 ... Gambling ... Movies & TV ... Music ... Hobbies ... Lulz ... Food & Travel ... Daily Texan ... Business and Markets ... Cloak Room ... Help ... For Sale ... Board Discussion ... Subscribe!... Donate!... Advertise... COOKIE MONSTER!

×
×
  • Create New...