Things Not Going Well in Venezuela, 2.0

[Fozzz 152]

1 hour ago, Not a cat said:

Dear God, listening to this woman is a beat down.  Oh sure before the 2017 sanctions people were already hunting rats and raiding zoos for food but it was the US sanctions that ruined the socialist utopia.  

Hey another one who supports the US starving Venezuelans to death. Fucking ghoul. 

[Anastasis 23479]

Flag guy is my hero in life. 

[Not a cat 5660]

20 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

Hey another one who supports the US starving Venezuelans to death. Fucking ghoul. 

Omar is that you?  I feel I'm arguing politics with the underpants gnome

1.Supports guy that is starving hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans so they hunt rats for food despite sitting on the largest proven oil reserve in the world.

2.  Accuse others of supporting said starving.

3.  ??

4. Profit

 

 

[hpslugga 4062]

6 hours ago, Not a cat said:

Omar is that you?  I feel I'm arguing politics with the underpants gnome

1.Supports guy that is starving hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans so they hunt rats for food despite sitting on the largest proven oil reserve in the world.

2.  Accuse others of supporting said starving.

3.  ??

4. Profit

 

 

Oh brother 

[Fozzz 152]

8 hours ago, Not a cat said:

Omar is that you?  I feel I'm arguing politics with the underpants gnome

1.Supports guy that is starving hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans so they hunt rats for food despite sitting on the largest proven oil reserve in the world.

2.  Accuse others of supporting said starving.

3.  ??

4. Profit

 

 

You're a fucking idiot.  US sanctions have killed tens of thousands of Venezuelans and has made it nearly impossible for the Venezuelan economy to stabilize.  You should probably spend more than five minutes watching cable news before opining on this topic.

[bad_teammate 13218]

The US Sanctions are killing people and our goal is to starve the Venezuelan people until they start a civil war which kills thousands outright.

The economic sanctions don't hurt Maduro, they hurt the people. That's the point.

[atomheartbevo 89743]

17 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Skin works here and it works in Latin America. 

 

https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/second-day-of-venezuelan-protests-idUSRTX6TZZI

Enhance on photo #19

[InkaUtexas 26010]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Enhance on photo #19

paging ramjet... 

 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

In this thread surly libs blame the US for the failures of socialism.  

[bad_teammate 13218]

*Maduro and his entire government in the background, stuffing their mouths with empanadas to keep from laughing out loud*

Gen Padrino: "Si, senor Bolton, we will be out on the streets with Presidente Guaido! All we are waiting for is his call!"

*covers receiver, giving a big thumbs-up to Maduro*

"Yes, yes, the Venezuelan military stands against the dictator Maduro!"

 

[Jim Tom Pinch 120]

13 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

In this thread surly libs blame the US for the failures of socialism.  

That’s how it goes among the intellectually bankrupt.

[hpslugga 4062]

It’s amazing that people are still claiming Venezuela is a socialist society

[Anastasis 23479]

7 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

*Maduro and his entire government in the background, stuffing their mouths with empanadas to keep from laughing out loud*

Gen Padrino: "Si, senor Bolton, we will be out on the streets with Presidente Guaido! All we are waiting for is his call!"

*covers receiver, giving a big thumbs-up to Maduro*

"Yes, yes, the Venezuelan military stands against the dictator Maduro!"

 

F John Bolton. 

[atomheartbevo 89743]

Bolton is feeling his oats.  Me thinks he's got Trump's ear on this one.

Unless Daddy Putin told Trump to back down.

[tx 3 putt 77180]

socialist countries have free elections ?

[Revolution512 1491]

2 hours ago, hpslugga said:

It’s amazing that people are still claiming Venezuela is a socialist society

Christ on a cracker......is this Dennison’s sock account? There’s no way there’s more than 1 of you

[Zonahorn 8079]

4 hours ago, Revolution512 said:

Christ on a cracker......is this Dennison’s sock account? There’s no way there’s more than 1 of you

There is, and he is correct. Venezuela hasn't been socialist in a long time. More like a kleptocracy 

[hpslugga 4062]

6 minutes ago, Calihorn said:

There is, and he is correct. Venezuela hasn't been socialist in a long time. More like a kleptocracy 

They weren’t even socialist to begin with. When the private sector controls nearly 70% of the economy, it’s beyond wrong to call that socialist regardless of how strongly one wants to believe otherwise. It takes more than an elected president using socialist-sounding phrases in speeches to make a “socialist country.” To believe otherwise is an exercise in superficiality and gullibility.

Edited May 4, 2019 by hpslugga

[Revolution512 1491]

I see you’ve entered stage 3. Good luck 

[Fozzz 152]

https://twitter.com/evagolinger/status/1124678434406436865

Would be a shame if they got sunk by the Russians. 

[David Dennison 18938]

17 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

In this thread surly libs blame the US for the failures of socialism.  

Who should we credit with the successes of socialism? 

[SDG 3319]

45 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Who should we credit with the successes of socialism? 

Outside of a few genetically attached tribes socialism has never been a “success.”  

 

If im miss remembering some utopian socialist society please let me know.  

[David Dennison 18938]

2 minutes ago, SDG said:

Outside of a few genetically attached tribes socialism has never been a “success.”  

If im miss remembering some utopian socialist society please let me know.  

Socialist policies are a success in America. They are a success in Europe. They have been successful in all western democracies.

 

[bad_teammate 13218]

"Genetically-attached tribes," I say, very not-racistly.

[suddenly shaggy 929]

1 hour ago, Fozzz said:

https://twitter.com/evagolinger/status/1124678434406436865

Would be a shame if they got sunk by the Russians. 

Fuck off Russian troll. If anyone had any doubts that your loyalties lie with Russia and not the United States, advocating for the Russians to sink two aircraft carriers, killing thousands of US sailors should remove those doubts. 

[SDG 3319]

3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

"Genetically-attached tribes," I say, very not-racistly.

To you; everyone is a racist or a bigot. That’s your go to when you have no facts...

 

nothing i I said isn’t based in reality. There are tribes on islands or in South America and Africa where socialism has been successful, but outside of that it fails every time.

[bad_teammate 13218]

Just now, SDG said:

nothing i I said isn’t based in reality.

Explain the connection between social welfare policy and genes.

[Fozzz 152]

2 minutes ago, suddenly shaggy said:

Fuck off Russian troll. If anyone had any doubts that your loyalties lie with Russia and not the United States, advocating for the Russians to sink two aircraft carriers, killing thousands of US sailors should remove those doubts. 

So you would rather Venezuelan civilians be bombed then?  How humanitarian. 

[SDG 3319]

8 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Explain the connection between social welfare policy and genes.

The connection isn’t hard.  Are you more likely to give a relative or a stranger money?  

[bad_teammate 13218]

1 minute ago, SDG said:

The connection isn’t hard.  Are you more likely to give a relative or a stranger money?  

No social welfare programs involve me giving anyone money except the government. It's an absurdly stupid question designed to hide a racist argument. Medicare and Social Security have worked very well and are extremely popular in this racially and genetically diverse nation.

Please tell me how a genetically and racially diverse society isn't capable of efficiently executing a welfare state.

[suddenly shaggy 929]

11 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

So you would rather Venezuelan civilians be bombed then?  How humanitarian. 

Can you even make a post without gaslighting? Nothing I said can even remotely be construed to get your response. It's like you're a bad chatbot. 

[Fozzz 152]

1 minute ago, suddenly shaggy said:

Can you even make a post without gaslighting? Nothing I said can even remotely be construed to get your response. It's like you're a bad chatbot. 

What do you think carriers do?  If they are used as part of a military action against a sovereign nation that poses no threat to us then my sympathies lie with the Venezuelans and not the foreign invaders. 

[suddenly shaggy 929]

2 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

What do you think carriers do?  If they are used as part of a military action against a sovereign nation that poses no threat to us then my sympathies lie with the Venezuelans and not the foreign invaders. 

They are likely intended as a show of force, but that is completely irrelevant to the fact that you advocated for the deaths of thousands of US service men and women. You've repeatedly shown your loyalties lie with Russia, not the US, this is just more obvious than usual. 

Edited May 4, 2019 by suddenly shaggy

[SDG 3319]

9 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

No social welfare programs involve me giving anyone money except the government. It's an absurdly stupid question designed to hide a racist argument. Medicare and Social Security have worked very well and are extremely popular in this racially and genetically diverse nation.

Please tell me how a genetically and racially diverse society isn't capable of efficiently executing a welfare state.

“Except the government”. Do you know how socialism works?  I use the term genetics because it matters in that socialism works in small family units.  It doesn’t, and has never, worked in the larger context of society.  Humans are inherently greedy meaning that there  has and will always be haves and have nots.  

 

Edit it to add: I’m not trying to attack you, I actually appreciate the respectful exchange of ideas.  

Edited May 4, 2019 by SDG

[bad_teammate 13218]

Just now, SDG said:

“Except the government”. Do you know how socialism works?

Yes, I do.

Make the argument. Explain what genetics have to do with this.

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Humans are inherently greedy meaning that there  has and will always be haves and have nots.  

What does this have to do with anything? lol 

[Fozzz 152]

6 minutes ago, suddenly shaggy said:

They are likely intended as a show of force, but that is completely irrelevant to the fact that you advocated for the deaths of thousands of US service men and women. You've repeatedly shown your loyalties lie with Russia, not the US, this is just more obvious than usual. 

lol. A show of force is going to do nothing to help overthrow the Venezuelan government. They will need to be used to perform air strikes, as is currently being considered by the administration. If that were to occur then I hope Venezuela and her allies do everything they can to protect the people of Venezuela. 

Edited May 4, 2019 by Fozzz

[David Dennison 18938]

29 minutes ago, SDG said:

To you; everyone is a racist or a bigot. That’s your go to when you have no facts...

nothing i I said isn’t based in reality. There are tribes on islands or in South America and Africa where socialism has been successful, but outside of that it fails every time.

This is simply factually incorrect. Socialist policies are working in all western democracies.

[suddenly shaggy 929]

4 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

lol. A show of force is going to do nothing to help overthrow the Venezuelan government. They will need to be used perform air strikes, as is currently being considered by the administration. If that were to occur then I hope Venezuela and her allies do everything they can to protect the people of Venezuela. 

 

Nothing we do is going to help overthrow Maduro. It's going to have to come from the Venezuelan people. 

Unlike you, most of the posters on here are patriotic Americans whose loyalties lie with the United States. There is no scenario where we would wish death on US service members. You show your colors as a pro-Russia troll frequently, but this is one of your more blatant examples. 

Edited May 4, 2019 by suddenly shaggy

[SDG 3319]

2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Yes, I do.

Make the argument. Explain what genetics have to do with this.

What does this have to do with anything? lol 

I have.  You are more likely to give a family member(genetics) money, food, whatever over a stranger.  That’s a proven fact.  

 

People being greedy is the primary reason why socialism hasn’t or will never work.  

[Fozzz 152]

Just now, suddenly shaggy said:

Nothing we do is going to help overthrow Maduro. It's going to have to come from the Venezuelan people. 

Unlike you, my loyalties lie with the United States. There is no scenario I would wish death on US service members. 

My wish is that we leave Venezuela alone and discontinue our murderous sanctions. 

[suddenly shaggy 929]

1 minute ago, Fozzz said:

My wish is that we leave Venezuela alone and discontinue our murderous sanctions. 

You just advocated for the deaths of thousands of US service members. You showed your true colors Comrade. 

[David Dennison 18938]

4 minutes ago, SDG said:

I have.  You are more likely to give a family member(genetics) money, food, whatever over a stranger.  That’s a proven fact.  

People being greedy is the primary reason why socialism hasn’t or will never work.  

But socialist policies do work. In many places. All democracies.

[Fozzz 152]

Just now, suddenly shaggy said:

You just advocated for the deaths of thousands of US service members. You showed your true colors Comrade. 

You seem to have succumbed to the same disease that has stricken Hugo. I hope the damage isn’t irreversible. 

[suddenly shaggy 929]

4 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

You seem to have succumbed to the same disease that has stricken Hugo. I hope the damage isn’t irreversible. 

You seem to think posters can't read halfway up the page to see what you posted. I'll help them out. 

 

2 hours ago, Fozzz said:

https://twitter.com/evagolinger/status/1124678434406436865

Would be a shame if they got sunk by the Russians. 

 

Fozzz is hopeful that the Russians sink two aircraft carriers, killing thousands of US service members and igniting World War III. 

[Fozzz 152]

So it’s your argument that it wouldn’t be a shame if that were to occur?  Pretty messed up dude. 

[suddenly shaggy 929]

8 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

So it’s your argument that it wouldn’t be a shame if that were to occur?  Pretty messed up dude. 

Take your gaslighting elsewhere Comrade, you've already exposed yourself on this thread and your shitty attempts to derail it and put this back on me somehow are childish. You know exactly what you were implying and just in case, you explicitly stated it on the last page.

You want Russia to sink two US aircraft carriers, killing thousands of US service members and igniting World War III. 

Edited May 4, 2019 by suddenly shaggy

[Fozzz 152]

You know the Soviet Union dissolved decades ago, yes?  Using that term to paint someone as a Russian sympathizer or whatever crazy shit you believe is rather anachronistic. 

[suddenly shaggy 929]

6 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

You know the Soviet Union dissolved decades ago, yes?  Using that term to paint someone as a Russian sympathizer or whatever crazy shit you believe is rather anachronistic. 

Since we aren't in a declared war with Russia, traitor doesn't apply, so I think Comrade is a perfect term for someone advocating Russia sink two US aircraft carriers. 

 

Edited May 4, 2019 by suddenly shaggy