Critical Race Theory policy in hiring at UT

[Fudge Nuggets 19146]

59 minutes ago, F250 said:

LOL

I had something similar happen when I sold our first house a long time ago. I sold it to a big Guatemalan family. A buddy told me our old neighbors were pissed.

 

Old neighbors should have pooled their funds and made a better offer because free markets and shit 

[TwiceHorn 31262]

2 hours ago, David Dennison said:

This kind of racism is as American as apple pie. It is just one of a long list of reasons why Black folks have had difficulty building generational wealth through home ownership.

I can't tell if that's based on skewed data employed in the appraisal or some subjective evaluation by the appraiser, or some pressure exerted by the lender.  Probably all three.

This is the toughest kind of bias to root out and why it's important for individuals to understand where bias lies, even if no "official" or systematic action is taken.

[DonkeyCigars 144]

41 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Old neighbors should have pooled their funds and made a better offer because free markets and shit 

Exactly.

[DonkeyCigars 144]

2 hours ago, TornACL said:

Friends of mine are selling their house, and their neighbor happened to come by and urge them to make sure they sell their house to a "nice white conservative family". 

I can't imagine being such a piece of shit human that you even care what the political leanings of your neighbors are, much less the race thing. 

I have no fucking idea who my neighbors vote for, nor to I care, nor is it any of my business. 

But anyway, that stuff makes me wonder is systemic racism is built by the system, or if it's slowly accumulated by the bricks of individual racists. 

That bolded part is a bridge too far. I get being concerned with the character of your neighbors if you have children and think they will be around their kids, or if you have a tight-knit community, but signaling out both political affiliation and race is egregiously wrong.

What did your friends do/say in response? That seems like a good teaching moment.

[pyrohornIII 4809]

 

16 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

No, no, no. You've got it all wrong. Slavery was bad, but everything was magically solved in 1965. Sure there were a "few" racists in some backwood areas after that, but it all stopped when Obama was elected in 2008. So everything is good now. Nothing to worry about.

- the John Roberts Book of Judicial Logic

14 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

True, but when you think about conservatism at its core, it makes sense. 
 

Definition:

commitment to traditional values and ideas with opposition to change or innovation

 

They oppose change. Their whole existence is to keep the status quo. Why? Because the status quo is awesome for them. They have the money, the power, and the womens. They shoot guns because its fun. They have the dominant race. They’re not getting their loan rejected. Their God is a white man who says women should be subservient to men. They don’t have a policy, other than cultural wars because they don’t want anything, they already have it. 
 

They have convinced the dumb poor whites that taxing the rich is bad. Paying for expensive private healthcare is good. As long as they’re told they’re better than the blacks, the dumb poor whites don’t give a shit if aunt Susan dies of cancer because she can’t afford the premiums. At least her daughter didn’t marry an immigrant. 
 

Had to repost because this is so spot on.

13 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Ironically, conservatives outlawing CRT taught in public schools is a decent example of CRT in practice.  
 

Order is preserved by the silencing of challenges to the established order. 

They know history is written by the victors.  Decades ago history was stored in textbooks which took years to publish.    With the internet they realize they need to be parsing and editing at a quicker pace, like in real time, but it's nearly impossible in this climate of sound bites.    So instead of editing textbooks, they just banned the teaching altogether.  

4 hours ago, Captainant said:

For another example, a black woman was able to double her home's appraised value by having a white man stand in. Home went from $125k to $260k just based on who the lender thought was trying to sell.

 

3 hours ago, David Dennison said:

This kind of racism is as American as apple pie. It is just one of a long list of reasons why Black folks have had difficulty building generational wealth through home ownership.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortgage_discrimination   While not a specific law, it was and is still is a policy.   Same pretty much for any lending situation for all minority races.

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

5 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

They know history is written by the victors.  Decades ago history was stored in textbooks which took years to publish.    With the internet they realize they need to be parsing and editing at a quicker pace, like in real time, but it's nearly impossible in this climate of sound bites.    So instead of editing textbooks, they just banned the teaching altogether. 

Once done, it becomes as Modi has done or is attempting to do. Lock down the internet.

As has been done in the past, going to have to go old school and keep finding work arounds to pass the knowledge along.

[bad_teammate 13132]

Critical race theory made me buy a Korean burrito from a food truck for lunch and want to fall asleep the rest of the day

[Dahobbs 17437]

28 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

That bolded part is a bridge too far. I get being concerned with the character of your neighbors if you have children and think they will be around their kids, or if you have a tight-knit community, but signaling out both political affiliation and race is egregiously wrong.

No fucking shit captain obvious. 

[TwiceHorn 31262]

Just now, Dahobbs said:

No fucking shit captain obvious. 

And it's not the signaling that's wrong.

Those neighbors may have been and probably were pieces of shit going back forever.  But they wouldn't have dared say that out loud until about 2017, more likely than not.

Let's hope the next "conservative white family" they get is the Duggars.

[DonkeyCigars 144]

3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

No fucking shit captain obvious. 

Trying to be an ally here dude, sorry.

[Dahobbs 17437]

Just now, TwiceHorn said:

And it's not the signaling that's wrong.

Those neighbors may have been and probably were pieces of shit going back forever.  But they wouldn't have dared say that out loud until about 2017, more likely than not.

Let's hope the next "conservative white family" they get is the Duggars.

Agreed except: it's not only the signaling that's wrong. The signaling is still definitely wrong. 

[TwiceHorn 31262]

Just now, DonkeyCigars said:

Trying to be an ally here dude, sorry.

Here's the thing, though.  As has been mentioned a couple of times on the thread, people feel it legitimate to seek the best neighborhoods, schools, and neighbors in defense or protection or for the advancement of their families.  Sometimes that has an intentional racist component and sometimes it doesn't.

But if you get thoughtful about it, first, you won't assume that there's anything fundamentally wrong with the brown family you're thinking of selling your house to, or that just became your neighbors.  You might not leave a neighborhood and school district that can use your family's talents and money to help keep it from sliding into oblivion due to white flight.  And your family may have something to learn from the Haitians, Asians, and Serbo-Croatians that are moving in.

It's hard to create empathy out of whole cloth, but I think coming to a better understanding of what your fellow man had dealt or is dealing with can only be a positive, both personally and from a governmental or policy standpoint.  If that is accomplished by "racial sensitivity" training, or DEI, or CRT, or whatever, it's probably a good thing and people shouldn't close their minds to it.

[Dahobbs 17437]

12 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

Trying to be an ally here dude, sorry.

I get it, I guess. But it is an odd way to say: "that's horrible." It sounds less like an expression of outrage and more like an argument explaining why it is horrible. If someone needs to explain their reasoning as to why they think an obviously terrible act is terrible, it makes me concerned that maybe the obvious wasn't so obvious to them. No one should need argument or convincing as to why such a racist statement/action is terrible. 

Just like, no one needs to say "the holocaust was terrible because. . ."

We don't need the because. It's understood. Or at least it should be. 

Edited May 26, 2021 by Dahobbs

[MC Fresh Breath 4074]

On 5/19/2021 at 2:37 PM, PHLaggie said:

CRT is an evolution of postmodernism and of cultural Marxism-- 

 

I'm not reading all 20 pages of this thread (yet), but as I read this, I thought "WTF is cultural Marxism?"  So wikipedia to the rescue I suppose:

 

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Cultural Marxism is a far-right antisemitic conspiracy theory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

 

Oh. OK.

 

[wildcat09 29224]

Just now, MC Fresh Breath said:

 

I'm not reading all 20 pages of this thread (yet), but as I read this, I thought "WTF is cultural Marxism?"  So wikipedia to the rescue I suppose:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

 

Oh. OK.

 

Cultural marxism just means jews.

[Pancho 44454]

House CRT talk not going away…

I’m selling my house right now , and I’m always wondering if the fact that I’m Black and my realtor is a Black Woman will cause any issues. My current neighborhood is very diverse so I hope not.

 

But it’s definitely in the back of my mind…

[F250 28679]

2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Critical race theory made me buy a Korean burrito from a food truck for lunch and want to fall asleep the rest of the day

Now I am craving some bulgogi tacos.

 

[Satchel 6908]

3 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

 

- the John Roberts Book of Judicial Logic

Had to repost because this is so spot on.

They know history is written by the victors.  Decades ago history was stored in textbooks which took years to publish.    With the internet they realize they need to be parsing and editing at a quicker pace, like in real time, but it's nearly impossible in this climate of sound bites.    So instead of editing textbooks, they just banned the teaching altogether.  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortgage_discrimination   While not a specific law, it was and is still is a policy.   Same pretty much for any lending situation for all minority races.

The Dallas neighborhood where President Bush and wife Laura will move once they leave the White House had a rule that only white people could live there – as recently as 2000.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/president-bush-new-dallas-neighborhood-whites-article-1.356538

[TornACL 7675]

19 hours ago, DonkeyCigars said:

That bolded part is a bridge too far. I get being concerned with the character of your neighbors if you have children and think they will be around their kids, or if you have a tight-knit community, but signaling out both political affiliation and race is egregiously wrong.

What did your friends do/say in response? That seems like a good teaching moment.

Maybe I'm cynical but people like that are beyond teaching. 

[C-Man 27041]

Pretty good read.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/what-is-critical-race-theory-and-why-is-it-under-attack/2021/05?fbclid=IwAR17pSSTfGZCW1rodJHsp89BiTepwccLr17K4iA2la7WjL1r24cnvn0EaXk

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Is “critical race theory” a way of understanding how American racism has shaped public policy, or a divisive discourse that pits people of color against white people? Liberals and conservatives are in sharp disagreement.

The topic has exploded in the public arena this spring—especially in K-12, where numerous state legislatures are debating bills seeking to ban its use in the classroom.

In truth, the divides are not nearly as neat as they may seem. The events of the last decade have increased public awareness about things like housing segregation, the impacts of criminal justice policy in the 1990s, and the legacy of enslavement on Black Americans. But there is much less consensus on what the government’s role should be in righting these past wrongs. Add children and schooling into the mix and the debate becomes especially volatile.

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School boards, superintendents, even principals and teachers are already facing questions about critical race theory, and there are significant disagreements even among experts about its precise definition as well as how its tenets should inform K-12 policy and practice. This explainer is meant only as a starting point to help educators grasp core aspects of the current debate.

Just what is critical race theory anyway?

Critical race theory is an academic concept that is more than 40 years old. The core idea is that racism is a social construct, and that it is not merely the product of individual bias or prejudice, but also something embedded in legal systems and policies.

The basic tenets of critical race theory, or CRT, emerged out of a framework for legal analysis in the late 1970s and early 1980s created by legal scholars Derrick Bell, Kimberlé Crenshaw, and Richard Delgado, among others.

A good example is when, in the 1930s, government officials literally drew lines around areas deemed poor financial risks, often explicitly due to the racial composition of inhabitants. Banks subsequently refused to offer mortgages to Black people in those areas.

Today, those same patterns of discrimination live on through facially race-blind policies, like single-family zoning that prevents the building of affordable housing in advantaged, majority-white neighborhoods and, thus, stymies racial desegregation efforts.

CRT also has ties to other intellectual currents, including the work of sociologists and literary theorists who studied links between political power, social organization, and language. And its ideas have since informed other fields, like the humanities, the social sciences, and teacher education.

This academic understanding of critical race theory differs from representation in recent popular books and, especially, from its portrayal by critics—often, though not exclusively, conservative Republicans. Critics charge that the theory leads to negative dynamics, such as a focus on group identity over universal, shared traits; divides people into “oppressed” and “oppressor” groups; and urges intolerance.

Thus, there is a good deal of confusion over what CRT means, as well as its relationship to other terms, like “anti-racism” and “social justice,” with which it is often conflated.

To an extent, the term “critical race theory” is now cited as the basis of all diversity and inclusion efforts regardless of how much it’s actually informed those programs.

One conservative organization, the Heritage Foundation, recently attributed a whole host of issues to CRT, including the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests, LGBTQ clubs in schools, diversity training in federal agencies and organizations, California’s recent ethnic studies model curriculum, the free-speech debate on college campuses, and alternatives to exclusionary discipline—such as the Promise program in Broward County, Fla., that some parents blame for the Parkland school shootings. “When followed to its logical conclusion, CRT is destructive and rejects the fundamental ideas on which our constitutional republic is based,” the organization claimed.

(A good parallel here is how popular ideas of the common core learning standards grew to encompass far more than what those standards said on paper.)

Does critical race theory say all white people are racist? Isn’t that racist, too?

The theory says that racism is part of everyday life, so people—white or nonwhite—who don’t intend to be racist can nevertheless make choices that fuel racism.

Some critics claim that the theory advocates discriminating against white people in order to achieve equity. They mainly aim those accusations at theorists who advocate for policies that explicitly take race into account. (The writer Ibram X. Kendi, whose recent popular book How to Be An Antiracist suggests that discrimination that creates equity can be considered anti-racist, is often cited in this context.)

Fundamentally, though, the disagreement springs from different conceptions of racism. CRT thus puts an emphasis on outcomes, not merely on individuals’ own beliefs, and it calls on these outcomes to be examined and rectified. Among lawyers, teachers, policymakers, and the general public, there are many disagreements about how precisely to do those things, and to what extent race should be explicitly appealed to or referred to in the process.

Here’s a helpful illustration to keep in mind in understanding this complex idea. In a 2007 U.S. Supreme Court school-assignment case on whether race could be a factor in maintaining diversity in K-12 schools, Chief Justice John Roberts’ opinion famously concluded: “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” But during oral arguments, then-justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said: “It’s very hard for me to see how you can have a racial objective but a nonracial means to get there.”

All these different ideas grow out of longstanding, tenacious intellectual debates. Critical race theory emerged out of postmodernist thought, which tends to be skeptical of the idea of universal values, objective knowledge, individual merit, Enlightenment rationalism, and liberalism—tenets that conservatives tend to hold dear.

What does any of this have to do with K-12 education?

Scholars who study critical race theory in education look at how policies and practices in K-12 education contribute to persistent racial inequalities in education, and advocate for ways to change them. Among the topics they’ve studied: racially segregated schools, the underfunding of majority-Black and Latino school districts, disproportionate disciplining of Black students, barriers to gifted programs and selective-admission high schools, and curricula that reinforce racist ideas.

Critical race theory is not a synonym for culturally relevant teaching, which emerged in the 1990s. This teaching approach seeks to affirm students’ ethnic and racial backgrounds and is intellectually rigorous. But it’s related in that one of its aims is to help students identify and critique the causes of social inequality in their own lives.

Many educators support, to one degree or another, culturally relevant teaching and other strategies to make schools feel safe and supportive for Black students and other underserved populations. (Students of color make up the majority of school-aged children.) But they don’t necessarily identify these activities as CRT-related.

As one teacher-educator put it: “The way we usually see any of this in a classroom is: ‘Have I thought about how my Black kids feel? And made a space for them, so that they can be successful?’ That is the level I think it stays at, for most teachers.” Like others interviewed for this explainer, the teacher-educator did not want to be named out of fear of online harassment.

An emerging subtext among some critics is that curricular excellence can’t coexist alongside culturally responsive teaching or anti-racist work. Their argument goes that efforts to change grading practices or make the curriculum less Eurocentric will ultimately harm Black students, or hold them to a less high standard.

As with CRT in general, its popular representation in schools has been far less nuanced. A recent poll by the advocacy group Parents Defending Education claimed some schools were teaching that “white people are inherently privileged, while Black and other people of color are inherently oppressed and victimized”; that “achieving racial justice and equality between racial groups requires discriminating against people based on their whiteness”; and that “the United States was founded on racism.”

Thus much of the current debate appears to spring not from the academic texts, but from fear among critics that students—especially white students—will be exposed to supposedly damaging or self-demoralizing ideas.

While some district officials have issued mission statements, resolutions, or spoken about changes in their policies using some of the discourse of CRT, it’s not clear to what degree educators are explicitly teaching the concepts, or even using curriculum materials or other methods that implicitly draw on them. For one thing, scholars say, much scholarship on CRT is written in academic language or published in journals not easily accessible to K-12 teachers.

What is going on with these proposals to ban critical race theory in schools?

As of mid-May, legislation purporting to outlaw CRT in schools has passed in Idaho, Iowa, Oklahoma, and Tennessee and have been proposed in various other statehouses.

The bills are so vaguely written that it’s unclear what they will affirmatively cover.

Could a teacher who wants to talk about a factual instance of state-sponsored racism—like the establishment of Jim Crow, the series of laws that prevented Black Americans from voting or holding office and separated them from white people in public spaces—be considered in violation of these laws?

It’s also unclear whether these new bills are constitutional, or whether they impermissibly restrict free speech.

It would be extremely difficult, in any case, to police what goes on inside hundreds of thousands of classrooms. But social studies educators fear that such laws could have a chilling effect on teachers who might self-censor their own lessons out of concern for parent or administrator complaints.

As English teacher Mike Stein told Chalkbeat Tennessee about the new law: “History teachers can not adequately teach about the Trail of Tears, the Civil War, and the civil rights movement. English teachers will have to avoid teaching almost any text by an African American author because many of them mention racism to various extents.”

The laws could also become a tool to attack other pieces of the curriculum, including ethnic studies and “action civics”—an approach to civics education that asks students to research local civic problems and propose solutions.

How is this related to other debates over what’s taught in the classroom amid K-12 culture wars?

The charge that schools are indoctrinating students in a harmful theory or political mindset is a longstanding one, historians note. CRT appears to be the latest salvo in this ongoing debate.

In the early and mid-20th century, the concern was about socialism or Marxism. The conservative American Legion, beginning in the 1930s, sought to rid schools of progressive-minded textbooks that encouraged students to consider economic inequality; two decades later the John Birch Society raised similar criticisms about school materials. As with CRT criticisms, the fear was that students would be somehow harmed by exposure to these ideas.

As the school-aged population became more diverse, these debates have been inflected through the lens of race and ethnic representation, including disagreements over multiculturalism and ethnic studies, the ongoing “canon wars” over which texts should make up the English curriculum, and the so-called “ebonics” debates over the status of Black vernacular English in schools.

In history, the debates have focused on the balance among patriotism and American exceptionalism, on one hand, and the country’s history of exclusion and violence towards Indigenous people and the enslavement of African Americans on the other—between its ideals and its practices. Those tensions led to the implosion of a 1994 attempt to set national history standards.

A current example that has fueled much of the recent round of CRT criticism is the New York Times’ 1619 Project, which sought to put the history and effects of enslavement—as well as Black Americans’ contributions to democratic reforms—at the center of American history.

The culture wars are always, at some level, battled out within schools, historians say.

“It’s because they’re nervous about broad social things, but they’re talking in the language of school and school curriculum,” said one historian of education. “That’s the vocabulary, but the actual grammar is anxiety about shifting social power relations.”

 

[TwiceHorn 31262]

On 5/26/2021 at 5:16 PM, Satchel said:

The Dallas neighborhood where President Bush and wife Laura will move once they leave the White House had a rule that only white people could live there – as recently as 2000.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/president-bush-new-dallas-neighborhood-whites-article-1.356538

Just a point of clarification.  That was a deed restriction.  There's no homeowners association there, or other source of "ordinance," other than the City of Dallas.

As mentioned upthread, such deed restrictions persisted in deeds for decades beyond Shelley v. Kraemer that made judicial enforcement of such covenants unlawful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_v._Kraemer

If for no other reason that the pre-printed deed forms used by title and mortgage companies contained them and they were just SOP from the 20s to the 40s.  It wouldn't even surprise me in a place like Oak Cliff.

I'd venture that deeds up until the 60s in most places in Texas contained such restrictions.

Edited May 28, 2021 by TwiceHorn

[wildcat09 29224]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Just a point of clarification.  That was a deed restriction.  There's no homeowners association there, or other source of "ordinance," other than the City of Dallas.

As mentioned upthread, such deed restrictions persisted in deeds for decades beyond Shelley v. Kraemer that made judicial enforcement of such covenants unlawful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_v._Kraemer

If for no other reason that the pre-printed deed forms used by title and mortgage companies contained them and they were just SOP from the 20s to the 40s.  It wouldn't even surprise me in a place like Oak Cliff.

I'd venture that deeds up until the 60s in most places in Texas contained such restrictions.

That's actually not the reason. The real reason is that, until the passage of the Fair Housing Act in 68, the FHA would only guarantee a residential developer's loans if the developer adopted racially restrictive covenants.

[Satchel 6908]

Point being, the deed restrictions had the desired effect. Preston Hollow is still virtually all white and is likely to remain so in perpetuity.

[Brisketexan 104557]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Just a point of clarification.  That was a deed restriction.  There's no homeowners association there, or other source of "ordinance," other than the City of Dallas.

As mentioned upthread, such deed restrictions persisted in deeds for decades beyond Shelley v. Kraemer that made judicial enforcement of such covenants unlawful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_v._Kraemer

If for no other reason that the pre-printed deed forms used by title and mortgage companies contained them and they were just SOP from the 20s to the 40s.  It wouldn't even surprise me in a place like Oak Cliff.

I'd venture that deeds up until the 60s in most places in Texas contained such restrictions.

Our first home was in Allandale, built in 1957.  The original deed (which was part of our closing docs) sure as shit had a racial restriction in it.  I expected it to be there, found it, and showed my wife.  She was aghast.  She really didn't know that this sort of shit was functionally codified into EVERY transaction, until shortly before we were born.

But, you know, it's all good now.  Racism is over, everything is hunky dory.

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

On 5/20/2021 at 1:48 PM, Pancho said:

1.) Ordinariness - racism is difficult to address and cure because it's not acknowledged.

2.) Interest Convergence - because racism benefits both elite Whites and working class Whites, large segments of society have little incentive to eradicate it. 

3.) Social Construction - race and races are products of social thought and relations.

4.) Differential Racialization - The "dominant society" racializes different minority groups at different times.

5.) Intersectionality - No person has a single, easily stated, unitary identity.  (Example: A White feminist can be Jewish, a Black activist can be male/female, straight or gay, a Latino can be a Democrat, a Republican, or even Black.)

6.) Storytelling - Because of their different histories and experiences with oppression, a PoC can communicate to Whites the matters and experiences that Whites are unlikely to know.

(Delgado & Stefancic, 2017)

 

 

*This is the framework I used for my dissertation.

My thoughts on the first couple of points....

 

1. Disagree somewhat; it is acknowledged, but there is a curve behind what is universally regarded as racism (Klan rallies, use of n-word, etc.) and more pernicious forms. We hear about racism constantly; it is America's obsession, the way class is in England. And just as in England, there are obvious forms of classism and others that are so ingrained there are nigh invisible.

2. Yes, racism benefits wealthy whites, always, and working class whites but only in the short-term. In very early Virginia, before the Black Codes, there was no eternal slavery. Blacks and Whites alike served terms of indentured servitude and then were freed. This went on for a few decades and then all of a sudden the Tidewater elite noticed they were facing and impoverished class of Black, White, and mixed-race former servants whose interests did not gibe with theirs. This rabble pretty much chased the elite rulers of Virginia all the way back to London....Meanwhile, similar events were unfolding in Barbados. The rulers of both these plantation societies huddled up and realized that the British class system could not be exported to the Americas intact. The lower orders of Whites tended to think they were above their station on this new frontier.  And then you had these people who looked so different and came from so far away, but nevertheless, they and the White rabble were intermarrying, and no good could come from that. Why not set the Black ones on the bottom, and make all Whites "better" than all Blacks? Divide and conquer. 

That's been the MO ever since. I believe prisons are distillations of society, and you can see this implemented there even more starkly than in America at large. When a group of lessers gets too big for the elite to handle, set them to fighting each other. Like in California: prisons were manageable when you just had Blacks, Whites, and Mexicans. Thanks to our prison state, suddenly there was an overwhelming number of Mexicans in there. What to do? Divide them between Surenos and Nortenos, that's what. 

Taking the larger view again, a workforce disunited along racial lines is perhaps the main reason we don't enjoy the sorts of benefits Europeans get, most prominently healthcare. John Q Six Pack Cracka Ass Cracka don't want his hard-earned money paying for some welfare queen's sugar diabetes, so he'll impoverish himself first, just like his bosses told him to do.

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

In the final chapters of the Autobiography of Malcolm X, he talked about how making his Hajj to Mecca made him realize that race was not an immutable fact the whole world over, because he saw Muslims of ever color united in their faith. And then he was killed.

MLK tried to pivot from a being a leader of Black people to a leader of poor Americans of ever color, and he was killed with the quickness.

Fred Hampton tried to start out where MLK left off and they took him out toot suite.

It's the third rail -- don't ever try to unite the poor across racial lines if you want to live.

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

Imagine the shitshow now if poor Blacks and Whites reached out to the illegal Brown workforce. 

[Satchel 6908]

Recently heard this guy theorize about what he calls strategic racism and how the rich profit from providing it sustenance.

In this groundbreaking examination of "strategic racism," Freeman carefully dissects the cruel and deeply harmful policies within the education, criminal justice, and immigration systems to discover their origins and why they persist. He uncovers billions of dollars in aligned investments by Bill Gates, Charles Koch, Mark Zuckerberg, and a handful of other billionaires that are dismantling public school systems across the United States. He exposes how the greed of prominent US corporations and Wall Street banks was instrumental in creating the world's largest prison population and our most extreme anti-immigrant policies. Freeman also demonstrates how these "racism profiteers" prevent flagrant injustices from being addressed by pitting white communities against communities of color, obscuring the fact that the struggles faced by white people are deeply connected with those faced by people of color.

https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501755132/rich-thanks-to-racism/

Edited May 28, 2021 by Satchel

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

Can't help but think that this was always the destination. 

 

 

[bad_teammate 13132]

*attends birthday party of black friend's grand-daughter*

"This is Praxis. I am doing Critical Race Theory."

[fattyflattie 4636]

On 5/28/2021 at 1:58 PM, Satchel said:

Point being, the deed restrictions had the desired effect. Preston Hollow is still virtually all white and is likely to remain so in perpetuity.

The article said 80%.  

[TwiceHorn 31262]

On 5/28/2021 at 1:54 PM, wildcat09 said:

That's actually not the reason. The real reason is that, until the passage of the Fair Housing Act in 68, the FHA would only guarantee a residential developer's loans if the developer adopted racially restrictive covenants.

I knew the Fair Housing Act finally did away with them, but I didn't know that about the FHA.

I think they continued to persist in documents well into the 70s, without any  intention of enforcement.

Great example of institutional racism hiding in the nooks and crannies of housing policy.

Edited May 30, 2021 by TwiceHorn

[TwiceHorn 31262]

35 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

The article said 80%.  

Preston Hollow encompasses at least three zip codes.  It said the Bushes' zip code is 80% white.  That zip code, 75229, may encompass some areas outside Preston Hollow, which, to the west, probably includes some sketchier areas.

[Willfully Horn 7913]

While reading about the razing of Greenwood (100 year anniversary,) and about what was called Black Wall Street, I was intrigued to learn that areas of Tulsa were owned by folk who refused to sell to white people.

Interesting. While I’m not equipped to comment on whether that was critical to the success blacks enjoyed in Tulsa, it certainly is an interesting historical fact.

[Willfully Horn 7913]

Most white Americans piss me off.

 

[Satchel 6908]

After the Republican spin machine kicks into high gear, white Americans are not likely to support diversity, multiculturalism or the golden rule either.

[Neonmoon 38127]

The same people who don’t believe they are racists are the same people who don’t want their children marrying someone of color. 

[Willfully Horn 7913]

Here’s a story that ought be taught in schools.

 

 

[washparkhorn 9935]

On 5/20/2021 at 12:20 PM, Poe It Up said:

Considering race relations are getting worse by the day, I wonder if the folks pushing stuff like CRT ever think they might need a change in approach. It doesn’t appear to be working. 

The CRT framework is an attempt to understand - using every available lens.  What about that is controversial?  It is a tool for Academia.

Some of you may be confusing confused corporate policy messaging for some embodiment of CRT. 

[washparkhorn 9935]

13 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Most white Americans piss me off.

 

BLM, like Antifa, became labels for the dark right. 

Edited May 31, 2021 by washparkhorn

[washparkhorn 9935]

15 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

 the Fair Housing Act

The Fair Housing Act shows how long it took to get there, as an aside. 

I miss Texans like LBJ. 

 

Edited May 31, 2021 by washparkhorn

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

18 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

While reading about the razing of Greenwood (100 year anniversary,) and about what was called Black Wall Street, I was intrigued to learn that areas of Tulsa were owned by folk who refused to sell to white people.

Interesting. While I’m not equipped to comment on whether that was critical to the success blacks enjoyed in Tulsa, it certainly is an interesting historical fact.

This guy's thread gives a little color to how it happened.

 

[bad_teammate 13132]

4 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

BLM, like Antifa, became labels for the dark right. 

Should teach a lot about how we should not let the right wing determine our messaging for us. As is happening all too often.

[Sawbonz 27398]

5 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Here’s a story that ought be taught in schools.

 

 

Or maybe even make a movie about it

[Underdog 28445]

Like anyone would watch it... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn good movie. 

[NWBuck 8547]

11 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Here’s a story that ought be taught in schools.

 

 

Worth adding this, then: https://time.com/5836444/black-memorial-day/

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The fact that the freed slaves’ Memorial Day tribute is not as well remembered is emblematic of the struggle that would follow, as African Americans’ fight to be fully recognized for their contributions to American society continues to this day.

 

[HenryJames 65887]

 

[Neonmoon 38127]

A pro Hitler tweet?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

The replies are great

[RDCanecutter 26249]

On 5/26/2021 at 1:29 PM, bad_teammate said:

Critical race theory made me buy a Korean burrito from a food truck for lunch and want to fall asleep the rest of the day

+1 for the unstated mockery of the Irish.