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3 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

Katrina’s path was the absolute worst path for New Orleans.  It hit 20-30 miles East, meaning the due north winds of the northwest quadrant of the storm were stacking massive water on the south shore of Pontchartrain.   That caused the levee failures, along with the massive winds/rain.   

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Ida came to the same general place from a slightly different direction. Several hurricane experts fear that difference in angle may put New Orleans more in the dangerous storm quadrant — the right front part of a hurricane — than it was in Katrina, when the city was more devastated by levee failure than storm surge. Katrina’s northeast quadrant pushed 28-foot (8.5-meter) storm surges in Mississippi not New Orleans.

Ida’s “angle is potentially even worse,” McNoldy said. Because it is smaller "it's not going to as easily create a huge storm surge ... but the angle that this is coming in, I think is more conducive to pushing water into the lake (Pontchartrain).”

 

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1 minute ago, Trey3216 said:

I was there with boats from Sunday through Tuesday and it never stopped raining, and it had been raining on many areas since Thursday.   

I cannot speak about that.  I know in my neighborhood, it was largely over on Monday night.  I had relocated myself and the dogs to the LaQuinta on 290 during one of the lulls (I could not go to my friend's house south of I-10 as all access was cut off), and came back home on Tuesday AM after @SydneyCarton told me all the water had receeded in the hood.  Our street didn't look like there had been any flooding at all as of noon on Tuesday.  It was kind of nuts.

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9 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Maybe you ought to sit this one out for a while, it's nothing personal but Surly probably isn't the best place for somebody who is justifiably on the ragged edge.  But here's the thing it's not gonna change for just you so best advice is take a breath and do something else.  

I've been here since 2011 (Surly/Shaggy). I know what I am dealing with.

I think it would be in everyone's best I best that I stuck around and threw a little cold water on the over the top Doom and gloom nonsense where my local knowledge permits.

Ragged edge..pffft.

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23 minutes ago, FartingMonk said:

 Also ERCOT does not operate in Lousiana.  

Are we sure about that?

39 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

So apparently, Entergy made the decision to not bury powerlines in NOLA as it would be too expensive. They also apparently didn't do any improvements on anything since 2005.  

 

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5 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

 

We shall see.  I’ve discussed with several PHd weather folks (I took 9 hours of meteorology in undergrad as elective courses because it’s fucking fascinating)  and they were all of mind that the most devastating hurricane in the US would be a cat 4/5 just east of NOLA (due to the NW quadrant having winds going due south and stacking massive amounts of water on the southern Pontchartrain), a stalled hurricane over Houston (Harvey ended up fitting the bill after a few days), and a straight Andrew level disaster hitting South Beach.   

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Just now, conVINCEd said:

The judges would also accept lowest lying area that is routinely in the path of hurricanes.

Or lowest lying area that is surrounded on multiple sides by large bodies water.

Wonder if they will ever do something about the Rigolets - a while back I remember them talking about floodgates of some kind.

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2 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

So, 1/3 of the Netherlands is below sea level, and they have buried all their low and medium voltage power lines.  Hell, a lot of Europe has done it.  

This should seriously be something that is done in the US, especially coastal areas.  

Well, you see, the shareholders.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

So, 1/3 of the Netherlands is below sea level, and they have buried all their low and medium voltage power lines.  Hell, a lot of Europe has done it.  

This should seriously be something that is done in the US, especially coastal areas.  

American think taxation is theft, remember? 
 

The Netherlands is ky fav country on earth btw. We have good friends there - they own a bakery and their own windmill. It’s wild. 

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2 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

American think taxation is theft, remember? 
 

The Netherlands is ky fav country on earth btw. We have good friends there - they own a bakery and their own windmill. It’s wild. 

I don't like taxes, but infrastructure to me is one things that absolutely should be taken care of.  It is so frustrating.

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4 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

we'd have to bury a lot more miles of lines than the netherlands and given the tremendous cost it's just not feasible without gvt help.

I can think of 2 Trillion dollars we have spent over the last 20 years that could have gone to this...

The electric delivery infrastructure in the USA is just as important as highways, bridges, etc...

 

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39 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I think it was abandoned.  427 S Rampart.

 

At one point housed a pawn shop that Louis Armstrong worked at based on this.

Louis did more than work for them. He considered them his family and wore a Star on David for the rest of his life after leaving nola.

He wore a necklace.  No flair.

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1 hour ago, Jiggy-Z said:

Everything is not going to be under 10 feet of water.  Get real. This situation is bad enough without your completely unnecessary exaggerations.  

You leave MIA alone!

He's a sadistic ginger psychopath, but he's our sadistic ginger psychopath.

He's probably right anyways.  I keep hearing all of New Orleans is under at least 10 feet of water, and the death toll will be in the tens if not hundreds of thousands.

Me:  You super cool MIA!

MIA: Naw, you super cool MIA2!

Me: Nu uh, you are!

MIA: Nope, you hella dope!

@MissingInAction  I got your 6 cheeseface! 

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9 minutes ago, MissingInActionToo said:

You leave MIA alone!

He's a sadistic ginger psychopath, but he's our sadistic ginger psychopath.

He's probably right anyways.  I keep hearing all of New Orleans is under at least 10 feet of water, and the death toll will be in the tens if not hundreds of thousands.

Me:  You super cool MIA!

MIA: Naw, you super cool MIA2!

Me: Nu uh, you are!

MIA: Nope, you hella dope!

@MissingInAction  I got your 6 cheeseface! 

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29 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I can think of 2 Trillion dollars we have spent over the last 20 years that could have gone to this...

The electric delivery infrastructure in the USA is just as important as highways, bridges, etc...

 

You think giving $$ or resources to Louisiana is gonna do anything?    It took their governor several days  to call a disaster when Katrina hit leaving tens of thousands of federal rescue resource vehicles sitting just outside their border.   

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1 minute ago, Jiggy-Z said:

Clearly, it has been a long day. For some us more than others. 

I’m more confused why I can’t copy and paste a gif from google all of a sudden. That’s like 50% of my posts lol.

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7 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

You think giving $$ or resources to Louisiana is gonna do anything?    It took their governor several days  to call a disaster when Katrina hit leaving tens of thousands of federal rescue resource vehicles sitting just outside their border.   

Nope.  Since these lines would be part of the national delivery system, it should be overseen federally. We know Louisiana isn't equipped to do it.  They might take the money and build a bridge to a casino like they did with federal money meant to shore up the levees before Katrina.  

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11 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said:

Clearly, it has been a long day. For some us more than others. 

Hang in there, dude. I'm watching some of the local news, and it looks like the city proper has survived the worst of the bad weather. Clean water and power are obviously the long-term concerns. Wind damage to roofs sounds like it's going to be...significant.

They're driving through the Quarter right now.

 

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2 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

I'd point out the city survived Katrina....initially.  That isn't doomsday shit just saying don't spike any footballs just yet.  

I think they’ve seen the worst in the city proper. Storm had moved and the lake didn’t see a huge rush of water that’s threaten the levees. 
 

The power issue and all the wind damage is a huge problem - but I think for flooding purposes they won’t face anything catastrophic.  

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6 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

I'd point out the city survived Katrina....initially.  That isn't doomsday shit just saying don't spike any footballs just yet.  

Concur. The light of day will reveal mother nature's new and devilishly clever work around. 

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4 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said:

Concur. The light of day will reveal mother nature's new and devilishly clever work around. 

I wouldn't doubt that a lot of those little shotgun shacks in Central City will have quite a bit of roof damage, but it sounds like the levees and pumps did their jobs to keep most of the water out. In the city, at least, I think this will be remembered more as a wind event than flood one.

Have you heard from your boy?

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The giant electrical transmission tower that sends major lines from west to east bank has fallen in the Mississippi. That provides 90% of power to Metairie and New Orleans. HUGE fuckup.

Also, power out and no good drinking water in both parish water treatment plants. Residents asked to limit water use so sewerage does not back up. Several week wait for power.

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49 minutes ago, MissingInActionToo said:

You leave MIA alone!

He's a sadistic ginger psychopath, but he's our sadistic ginger psychopath.

He's probably right anyways.  I keep hearing all of New Orleans is under at least 10 feet of water, and the death toll will be in the tens if not hundreds of thousands.

Me:  You super cool MIA!

MIA: Naw, you super cool MIA2!

Me: Nu uh, you are!

MIA: Nope, you hella dope!

@MissingInAction  I got your 6 cheeseface! 

I can always use another friend. Welcome aboard.

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3 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

The giant electrical transmission tower that sends major lines from west to east bank has fallen in the Mississippi. That provides 90% of power to Metairie and New Orleans. HUGE fuckup.

Also, power out and no good drinking water in both parish water treatment plants. Residents asked to limit water use so sewerage does not back up. Several week wait for power.

Yep.  Which is just fucking nuts.

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