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This was a really good discussion that Spurs really need to mix up their management and get bigger. Levy doing it all is just bad.  

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It would have been funnier to draw Nottingham Forest.

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On 6/16/2021 at 8:32 PM, DeepEastTexas said:

I was completely furious at sacking Poch and hiring Jose to begin with. 
 

Bale still had something left in the tank, maybe not every match day, but he still had something left. 

11 goals in less than a 1000 minutes last season. Better goals/minutes ratio then anyone else in the League.

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Coming over the wires now, Harry did not report for preseason medical as expected

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Man City target Harry Kane fails to report for Tottenham training, pushing for move - sources

 

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Harry Kane failed to report to Tottenham Hotspur for preseason training on Monday morning as he attempts to force through a move away from the club, sources have told ESPN.

Kane, 28, was due at Hotspur Way for COVID-19 testing and routine blood work after an extended break following England's run to the final of Euro 2020.

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However, Kane chose not to attend, a move that represents an escalation in the stand-off between the striker and Spurs chairman Daniel Levy. Kane had previously expressed his desire to leave the club this summer.

Manchester United and Chelsea are monitoring the situation, but sources have told ESPN that Manchester City are the front-runners and are hopeful of completing a deal.

Levy is reluctant to sell, however, given Kane's importance to the team and the fact he has three years remaining on his £200,000-a-week contract in north London.

Kane believes he has a gentleman's agreement with Levy that would see the club listen to appropriate offers for the club this summer. However, Tottenham value Kane at around £150 million -- a figure City have so far proved unwilling to match.

City have previously indicated they are willing to offer around £100m, although sources at both clubs denied a formal bid had been tabled.

Kane's failure to report back is a major disruption to Tottenham's preseason plans ahead of their first Premier League game, which coincidentally comes against City at home on Aug. 15.

Spurs play Chelsea in a friendly at Stamford Bridge on Wednesday, although Kane was always unlikely to feature in that fixture. They then face Arsenal on Sunday, and it is unclear at this stage whether Kane will be involved.

Last month, new Spurs head coach Nuno Espirito Santo played down speculation Kane could depart.

"Harry is our player, period," he said. "No need to talk about anything else.

"Now is the moment for Harry to recover his energy, to rest. When he comes again, we will have time to speak. We will have good conversations, but now is the moment for Harry to rest and to prepare for what's coming.

"And I'm looking forward to him joining the group and starting working together."

The Athletic also reporting, but can't copy/paste on mobile

https://theathletic.com/news/harry-kane-tells-tottenham-he-will-not-train-amid-manchester-city-interest/QH4zr7iai6Q7

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Tottenham Hotspur will fine Harry Kane for failure to return on time to training

Whether this is the first of many fines remains to be seen.

 

By Sean Cahill on August 2, 2021 6:05 pm

 

 

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Actions have consequences, and Harry Kane had to expect this.

 

According to Dan Kilpatrick, Tottenham Hotspur will fine the want-away striker an undisclosed amount of money for his failure to report to preseason training Monday.

 

 

Tottenham are planning to hit Harry Kane with a significant fine after the striker failed to report back to the club on Monday.

 

Kane was due to return for Covid testing and the start of pre-season after an extended break following the European Championship but chose not to show on Monday morning, as he stepped up his efforts to force through a transfer to Manchester City.

 

For those of us who follow American sports, this happens essentially every season, especially in the NFL. A player wants a new contract or a trade to a team that will compete by sitting out training camp, thus forcing the team to fine him for every day he misses. It doesn’t happen nearly as often in European football, but we’re now watching it in real time with one of the best strikers in the world.

 

While this saga has continued, today was really the only question mark in the entire fiasco: Would Kane risk his image and Spurs legacy to force a move by sitting out? We now know the answer to that question is a resounding “Yes.”

 

The club has no choice but to respond accordingly and while we don’t know what that fine is going to be, Kilpatrick adds this to the story:

 

The final penalty is likely to be dependent on how the situation unravels, with it unclear when or whether Kane will agree to return to the club in the foreseeable future.

 

Kane is not thought to have communicated the reasons for his no-show to Spurs on Monday but the 28-year-old is desperate to join City this summer.

 

Nothing is really surprising here. If Kane sees the backlash as too much to handle, he can report tomorrow to try and smooth things over and the club will dock him some cash. If he keeps this up and doesn’t report at all, that fine is going to grow into a large number quickly.

 

Manchester City, who are the only club linked to Kane, are finalizing a deal for Aston Villa’s Jack Grealish to the tune of £100m. While we can spend a lot of time talking about FFP and how City could probably do both transfers easily, this is more about how Spurs are going to respond and they’re doing exactly what they should. You have to punish a player, regardless of their stature, for not adhering to club rules.

 

The question has now changed to “Have we seen the last of Harry Kane at Hotspur Way?” and it’s impossible to give an answer to that. We may see him in training tomorrow!

 

Or, we may never see him in Spurs gear again.

 

Buckle up.

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Harry Kane's no show for Tottenham training leaves a sour taste - but is it understandable?

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It would be nice to know how Harry Kane spent the morning of August 2, 2021. Mowing the lawn? Admiring the jerseys, match balls and individual awards in his frustratingly sparse trophy room? Playing FIFA 21 on career mode and trying to engineer a transfer from Tottenham Hotspur to Manchester City? We just don’t know yet.

 

What we do know is that he didn’t report for pre-season training. He was due to report at Tottenham’s training ground on Monday morning, having had a three-week break since England’s defeat in the European Championship final, and he didn’t show. Nearly four months after The Athletic broke the news of his desire to leave, Kane is finally putting his exit strategy into action.

 

The no-show leaves a sour taste. Kane’s reputation is based on honesty, integrity and, yes, loyalty to the club he first joined when he was 11 years old. That doesn’t mean he has to stay there for life if, as is clearly the case, he feels he needs to move in order to find the fulfilment and team success that has eluded him at Tottenham. But it does mean treating the club with respect, whatever his frustrations with executive chairman Daniel Levy.

 

Kane believes he has a “gentlemen’s agreement” with Levy, allowing him to leave if Tottenham receive a suitable offer. But the chairman feels he is entitled to hold firm, insisting that the England captain is not for sale. Kane, barely halfway through a six-year contract, feels he has to do something drastic to break the stalemate.

 

If Kane gets the move he wants, he will come to look back at this as a means to an end. Given Levy’s reputation for playing hardball, he was not likely to get to City by being polite and doing things by the book. As one agent told The Athletic’s Stuart James, “If you can’t find a solution, you do whatever is necessary. ‘I’m not playing’, tossing it off in training, bad body language, not putting the effort in. You never get a move by being nice.”

 

But then, in the same article, another agent warned, “What you must never do is get an owner angry.” Uh oh…

 

It isn’t a laughing matter, though — certainly not for Tottenham and their supporters, who, whatever their frustrations with Levy, are likely to side with the chairman rather than Kane on this issue.

 

Where the fans might sympathise with Kane is that he signed his contract in 2018 after being persuaded to embrace the vision of an incredibly bright future at a new stadium with an improving team. That vision involved competing for the game’s biggest prizes, not gearing up for a Europa Conference League play-off against Pacos de Ferreira or Larne. (And as a side-point, shouldn’t Nuno Espirito Santo have made contact with him to explain his vision as soon as possible after he got the job on June 30? It looked naive, bordering on complacent, to say “we count on Harry”, but then say that a conversation could wait until Kane was back in the building in August.)

 

Kane’s disillusionment at Tottenham is understandable, given that they have not won a trophy since 2008 and have regressed in terms of Premier League placing every year since finishing runners-up to Chelsea in 2016-17. He is hardly the first Tottenham player who, having seen on-pitch ambitions fade, has found himself frustrated by Levy’s intransigence. But that doesn’t excuse a player failing to show for work. It looks like an act of rebellion. What’s more, that is surely how it is meant to look.

 

Rio Ferdinand made the point on Twitter that another player — he specifically said Paul Pogba — would be damned for failing to show up on the first day of pre-season training.

 

 

Slight exaggeration, perhaps, but Ferdinand had a point. This is the English football’s golden boy we are talking about and it does feel as if some observers are looking at this situation through rose-tinted glasses, giving him the benefit of the doubt over a course of action that would usually attract condemnation.

 

But Ferdinand issued a clarification.

 

 

Then came an interjection from Ferdinand’s former England team-mate Jamie Carragher.

 

 

There speaks a one-club man. And most of us, as football fans or journalists, would side with the Carragher view. Is Kane right to want to leave Tottenham in search of trophies? We can all have a different view on that, but most will sympathise with or understand his frustration. Is Kane right to skip training? Unless there is some kind of private issue we don’t know about, most of us would say a resounding no.

 

It is quite striking, though, to note that there are those in the football industry who will say — whether publicly, like Ferdinand, or privately — that a player in these circumstances has to do whatever it takes to get the move he wants. 

 

It wasn’t like that in the summer of 1998, when Pierre van Hooijdonk failed to report for pre-season training at Nottingham Forest, citing broken promises about investment in the squad since winning promotion to the Premier League.

 

Van Hooijdonk’s failure to return to training sparked fury in the dressing room. It worsened when he stayed away and his team-mates made it abundantly clear he would not be welcome to come back — which made things strained when finally he did three months later. As manager Dave Bassett colourfully put it not long after Van Hooijdonk returned, “If he thinks we’re going to offer him an olive branch, he knows where he can stick it.”

 

However, as former Forest full-back Alan Rogers explained here, the lore of the dressing room has changed significantly since those days. “It’s almost accepted now,” Rogers said. “I’m not saying it’s like what we had with Pierre at Forest, but it seems to be pretty much accepted now that players will play up to try to get a move. The players have so much power these days. You look at certain players where they’ve made clear they don’t want to be at a club and they seem to be taking the piss, but in a lot of cases now their team-mates just seem to put up with it.”

 

This is true. When Thibaut Courtois stayed away from pre-season training at Chelsea in the summer of 2018 to try to force his way to Real Madrid, there were collective shrugs from players and supporters alike as if to say, “This is just what happens.” Even when Diego Costa went AWOL from Chelsea at the start of the 2017-18 campaign after a fallout with Antonio Conte, accusing the club of treating him “like a criminal”, Eden Hazard described him as “a top guy, a top player” and said he hoped to see him back on the pitch soon.

 

 

Courtois forced a move to Real Madrid from Chelsea in 2018 after staying away from training (Photo: Darren Walsh/Chelsea FC via Getty Images)

Anyone expecting a furious backlash of the type Van Hooijdonk faced 23 years ago is likely to be disappointed. What felt like a cardinal sin in 1998 is largely accepted within dressing rooms as a legitimate means of getting a transfer. Whether it is pulling out of matches (competitive or otherwise) citing mysterious ailments or staying away altogether, it tends to meet with resigned shrugs rather than the fury of the past. It has reached the stage where even turning up for pre-season training, as Jack Grealish did at Aston Villa on Sunday, is excitedly interpreted in some quarters as an unequivocal show of commitment to the cause rather than simply doing what is required under your terms of employment.

 

Kane’s commitment and contribution to Tottenham over the years have been exceptional. Even last season, by which time disillusionment had set in, he performed to an outstanding level in a team that lost its way.

 

That was the gist of Ferdinand’s response to Carragher. “He has given his all for that club,” the former Manchester United defender tweeted. “When the dust settles they will remember him in the positive way his time there will deserve.”

 

They should do, yes. And if Kane is frustrated and ends up returning to the fold at Tottenham, you can be certain his act of mutiny will be brushed under the carpet in the same way that usually happens in such instances. There is no shortage of players who have openly pushed for a transfer, appearing to burn their bridges as they did so, only to be welcomed back with open arms. Another couple of former England captains, Steven Gerrard at Liverpool and Wayne Rooney at Manchester United, are among the first names that spring to mind.

 

Kane’s actions — or non-actions — on Monday were designed to tell Tottenham that there can be no way back from here. But it remains to be seen whether they will make the slightest difference to Levy. Tottenham have given the impression all along that they will not sell, even if some sources believe Levy has an asking price of £150 million in mind. City, for their part, seem happy to take a back seat while waiting to see if something changes at the Tottenham end.

 

It is a stand-off, with Kane’s leverage severely reduced by the three years remaining on his contract, and right now it is hard to see how it will be resolved by the deadline on August 31, let alone by the time Tottenham play City on the opening day of the Premier League season on August 15. It seemed unlikely that Kane would play any part in that game. Now it looks almost unfeasible.

 

This shadow is going to hang over Kane as the new season begins — perhaps much longer. The question is whether that shadow will have lifted, and what colour shirt he will be wearing, by the time he returns to action.

 

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Romero deal to be officially announced shortly. Had his medical in London this morning. 

Tanganga to Galatasaray on loan is agreed to, pending Tanganga's decision to join them. 
 

Who else do we get? Hearing Sissoko, Aurier, and Sanchez are being shopped. Sending those three packing would make my day. 

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Rumors that Ndombele will want a move if both Sissoko and Aurier are sent packing.  As they should be..

I think it's time to admit this is going to be a complete shit year.   Esp with the crap Kane is pulling.   Apparently his teammates aren't too happy about it either. 

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Any surly Yids able to attend the Spurs v Manure on Oct 30th in London at WHL 2.0? 

I'd fly out on the 28th.  And then head over to Belgium and Amsterdam on the following Sunday and then fly home.  Probably a 7-8 day trip.  Delta has RT tickets on pts for 35000.  Thats a steal that I think Ill jump on today.

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1 hour ago, midtown said:

Any surly Yids able to attend the Spurs v Manure on Oct 30th in London at WHL 2.0? 

I'd fly out on the 28th.  And then head over to Belgium and Amsterdam on the following Sunday and then fly home.  Probably a 7-8 day trip.  Delta has RT tickets on pts for 35000.  Thats a steal that I think Ill jump on today.

why?

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1 hour ago, midtown said:

Any surly Yids able to attend the Spurs v Manure on Oct 30th in London at WHL 2.0? 

I'd fly out on the 28th.  And then head over to Belgium and Amsterdam on the following Sunday and then fly home.  Probably a 7-8 day trip.  Delta has RT tickets on pts for 35000.  Thats a steal that I think Ill jump on today.

No Rona restrictions?

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why?

cause I like beer and I had a great time in Bruges and wouldn't mind checking out Ghent and/or Antwerp.   And it's on the way to Amsterdam

 

10 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

No Rona restrictions?

London  looks clear with vaccination and I thought the Schengen region was also welcoming vaccinated muricans.  

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