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Last paragraph is wrong. I’m not a partisan  I’m an ideologue- I get roasted for anything anti Dem. Bad Teammate is an ideologue not a partisan. He gets roasted for anything anti dem in the other side. That board is cheerleading for team blue. 

Workswithseed was welcomed but his posting material and snark earned the ire. Sack earned the ire of people because he would post incorrect or misleading content.

It has nothing to do with politics but everything to do with posting style.

And Team Blue is not launching coordinated efforts to undermine the Republic, lying about everything, making a pandemic a political issue, and obstructing or engaging in rigging elections. I think you see it and you just cannot defend it or don’t care and you left.

Team blue is called plenty of shit. Most of us on the left and even those center right members keep calling team blue out for their stupidity. It it like supporting a Charlie Strong Texas game. Yeah we want to win, but damn.
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I'm fed up with this bullshit. This forum is for news that has no ties to anything political. That means if you want to discuss policy, how laws work, bitch about laws, bitch about whatever fucki

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Man, some of yall seem to forget the site you are on and it's roots in crass discourse. I didn't realize so many of you all were so sensitive and fragile to the point of needing your own space to not

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the conservative exit from the board, on shaggy, was possibly due to what led to the [serious] manifestation.  what a lot of you don't understand is that a lot of moderation is driven from report

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1 hour ago, bernorange said:

Political discourse inthis community from HF to Shaggy to here has been a case study in idiocracy.  Maybe it's a reflection of our political theater.  Maybe it's a result of the growing polarization effect of social media and partisan traditional media.  Maybe it's just a truer than we would like to believe barometer of our devolution.

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Or maybe a bunch of college-educated posters changed their minds and their worldview when presented with new data.

Which is something that people with college educations sometimes do.  

In this case, it happened fairly rapidly after 2016, and so it was a lot more noticeable.  I imagine this same thing happened on a somewhat smaller scale after we invaded Iraq back in 2003, but it was somewhat drowned out/diluted by the fact that 9/11 was still fresh, and people were still trying to be patriotic.

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12 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

gif jihad confounded by reporting was very very special. 

 

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

To be clear, I think it was actually a reporting bias and not a moderation bias, but the differential was certainly evident. 

I think I have been clear @washparkhorn. I too think that the mods do a good job generally both here and the previous site. That particular period though was a total shit show of inconsistent moderation.  

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8 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

To be clear, I think it was actually a reporting bias and not a moderation bias, but the differential was certainly evident. 

I believe this is absolutely true and what drove the differences. Reporting and not moderation for sure. 

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To add- I don’t think I disagreed with any of the moderator decisions toward conservatives on the serious tag threads (I thought it was bad policy but it wasn’t about what got flagged) it was more problematic that seemingly 10-1 left posts that were equivalent to what got flagged from the right got through without moderation. The word was the conservatives just weren’t flagging posts. I know I never flagged a single post because I fundamentally disagreed with the policy. 

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25 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

On a serious note that’s when the cabal took over the cloak room and turned it into a wretched shithole. 

I don’t think one thing had anything to do with the other.

And the cloak room has always been a shithole. Especially back when swam, clear lake horn, etc ruled the roost. 

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9 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Reporting what by whom?

Reported! Jk, you can do it yourself.  It's probably highly moderated.   To paraphrase HJ, "there's a team of highly qualified induvials investigating the situation"

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Before November 4th, I had a combined zero posts in shaggy or surly's Cloak Rooms. Discussing politics is just not my jam. But November 5th hit me a lot harder than I expected, with so many otherwise intelligent people that I respect believing every word from the dude who told us exactly what he would do if he lost for over a year. A dude with a very loose grasp on truth and reality as is. It was the damnedest thing I've ever seen, and I needed somewhere to vent.

Honestly, since I never visited, I assumed that CR was still heavily slanted towards Republicans, so it was actually a (nice) surprise that it had done a complete 180 with one "side" self-immolating. Before 2016, my voting record was probably closer to Johnny Sack's than it was bad_teammate's, but, like others have mentioned, the only viable alternative to what has very clearly become a cult are the bleeding heart, sanctimonious assholes on the other side.

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39 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Before November 4th, I had a combined zero posts in shaggy or surly's Cloak Rooms. Discussing politics is just not my jam. But November 5th hit me a lot harder than I expected, with so many otherwise intelligent people that I respect believing every word from the dude who told us exactly what he would do if he lost for over a year. A dude with a very loose grasp on truth and reality as is. It was the damnedest thing I've ever seen, and I needed somewhere to vent.

Honestly, since I never visited, I assumed that CR was still heavily slanted towards Republicans, so it was actually a (nice) surprise that it had done a complete 180 with one "side" self-immolating. Before 2016, my voting record was probably closer to Johnny Sack's than it was bad_teammate's, but, like others have mentioned, the only viable alternative to what has very clearly become a cult are the bleeding heart, sanctimonious assholes on the other side.

I hate liars. One of the benefits of Covid to me personally came about while on one of my long walks during Covid was I figured out why.

Im not gonna bore the board on my own personal story on that. But I hated trump even more than before because I figured out why he was such a liar on that and it caused me to hate him even more.

And the lies continue. He won the election in a landslide. It’s a total lie. 

Fuck him and throw him in prison. As well as his supporters.

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5 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I think my last post in CR happened when I was talking about something and someone brought up, completely off topic, me going on my RV adventure during Covid and how that made me a piece of shit that wasn’t worth having an opinion and that post got all sort of likes. 

The thing that sucked was- I’ve been, at all times when talking about covid, up front about the fact that none of the bad effects of the thing are being felt by me (or almost anyone here) bc we are upper middle class, educated people that can work from home and will take care of our kids. That’s never been my point and I’ve always felt bad for the poor and marginalized (it was the reason I took a two year fucking sabbatical teach kids- I have a heart for that shit. I always have. I’ve always done whatever I can to try to do right). But they completely misrepresented what I was saying and got cheered on by the mob. And my question was- where is the hate for @troph?  She did the same thing with her kids on an rv during the summer. It’s an awesome way to get out, was safe during Covid, enabled us both to spend a bunch of time with our kids and make memories, but she’s a hero bc of her life story and I’m a piece of shit because someone disagrees with my politics. 
I’m pretty good natured about all sorts of things. I call myself an idiot all the time, I am way more likely to post a story where I’ve done something foolish or goofy and look stupid than I am to try to make myself the hero of the story. 
But for someone to call Troph a hero and me a piece of shit for literally the exact same behavior?  Where we are each just looking to do right by our family?  Seriously, who needs that? 
Then that person shows up on the divorce thread and you just say, nah, life is too short. 

I’m a hero because I wear a cape. It’s really that simple. 

 

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in all seriousness no one should give you shit for the RV.  I disagree with the Walmart parking lot strategy but plenty do it.  Anyone slamming you for RVing during covid is lame. It was a great example of teaching your kids to do the best you can with what life deals you. Kudos.  
 

And your thread is one of the greatest of all time and many say that as well.  

 

as for politics well, an overwhelming percentage of educated folks despise Trump and many are conservative. That’s a lot of what’s going on here.  And as the social stuff continues to change it’s only getting worse for Trump and his party. I can’t help you there. 

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23 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

[Serious] was the grandfather of the CR / DT schism 

Bracketed text?  A grammar nazi thing?

(bracketed text is optional, e.g., you may disregard the serious requirement here). Was that misunderstood?

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2 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

Bracketed text?  A grammar nazi thing?

(bracketed text is optional, e.g., you may disregard the serious requirement here). Was that misunderstood?

I think you were away for that interlude. [Serious] threads were in CR and no trolling was to be allowed. Our conservative brethren took this to mean they were being repressed. This was pre-Trump, as I recall. 

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43 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

I think you were away for that interlude. [Serious] threads were in CR and no trolling was to be allowed. Our conservative brethren took this to mean they were being repressed. This was pre-Trump, as I recall. 

Yep, it wasn't even just trolling. It was shit talking, and gif use was restrained. [Serious] shit.

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14 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I can’t believe there are adults who don’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to subject themselves to being called a cunt over and over because their politics is different than the majority of the board. 

If someone invited you over to their house and repeatedly told you that you were stupid and called you names whenever they disagreed with something you said, and compares you to Hitler would you keep going over to their house? If so why?  Are you that self loathing?  
why should my hang out on the internet be different than my real life?  

it’s funny- on the old site I think I noticed like 5 or 6 of the 8 or 9 people that acted the worst to me posting in the “I have a drinking problem” thread. 
theres 3 or 4 I can think of right off the bat that I don’t need to get into, but just awful and terrible shit. Go on a bender and just torch anyone you disagree with. Why would I want that?  Why would anyone? 

I bet, to think of one person that’s a lightning rod- @Johnny Sack is a good hang. But he’s reviled by the cabal. I bet in real life none of them would say anything. But on the flip side people giving him shit seem pretty fucking miserable and probably on benders a lot of time. Why should he post somewhere where everyone is going to ignore whatever he says and tell him fuck off trust fund baby?  Should he debase himself to that?  For what purpose?

I have zero doubt that @workswithseed is good people. But he’s treated like shit by plenty. He’s basically a kid without fully formed opinions trying to figure life out for himself and he’s clearly got a good heart. Does that matter

to a bunch?  No. 
and he brings up a good point about our resident commie @bad_teammate  he’s without a doubt the worst teammate. But he engages in idea based debate respectfully without being a dick. I could laugh at him for being a lunatic all day long and never once want to distance myself from being around him because I don’t agree with him. 
Fuck that shit man. 

No one is forcing you to post here. If you don’t like how the people in this community act then don’t be apart of the community.

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I bet we've got at least 100 posters on here who are/were registered Republicans who voted for Biden.  

I bet we've got at least 50 posters on here who didn't vote on a regular basis who voted for Trump.

I bet we've got at least 25 posters on here who are Qanon subscribers.

I bet we've got at least 10 poster on here who are card-carrying members of the Socialist Party. 

We are vast, we contain multitudes.  It would be nice to have general news threads that didn't get into a political pissing contest.  As educated and wise as much of this user group is, we still tend to emulate what's going on in the rest of the country---which is the politicization of the most unrelated shit.  I don't mind the political talk, most of the DT didn't mind me bagging on Obama or Hillary for 8 years on TOS.  While I'm not part of the liberal cabal by philosophy, I do get lumped in with them now because I simply needed a place to laugh and vent---and CR does the trick. 

But as high level as this site can be sometimes, we devolve back to making sure we twist everything and anything into political teams because it's just instinct nowadays in America.  I didn't believe it for longer than most despite being much closer to politics than most.  I just didn't see it, or I chose not to, or I fooled myself.  But from 2014-2018, I still easily separated out politics from everything and I thought the nation did as well.  Even as Trump's presidency fractured the nation even more, I thought the whining about him in 2017 and even 2018 was annoying and counter-productive.  And it wasn't until 2019 that I really noticed, not just the divide, but our uncanny ability to spin every single fucking news story into some pro-Trump/anti-Trump canvas.  We're not gonna change that on this site until we change it on our daily lives.  

Also, fuck Steve Adler. 

 

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8 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

[Serious] was the grandfather of the CR / DT schism 

The tag was a response to behavioral/cultural issue that had long since manifested and was festering.  It's a milestone marker on our devolution, but it was a response to an existing problem, not a causal factor.  For all the feels we get when we tell ourselves that we're an educated community, that experiment proved we can't have nice things.  The savages won.  

P.s. if you read that last sentence and thought I was referring to a political team, you are part of the problem.

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29 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

No one is forcing you to post here. If you don’t like how the people in this community act then don’t be apart of the community.

Holy terrible terrible terrible reading comprehension Batman. See, this is literally the perfect example of what I’m talking about. I think literally everyone who has read that post understands it’s an explanation and example of why conservative posters don’t choose to post in the cloak room. The cloak room is notorious, throughout the entire site, for being populated by a completely different vibe then everywhere else, which is sort of the entire point of this entire thread, and my entire post explaining why certain people don’t post there anymore. 
Then you, who have posted here way long enough to have a context in all this come up breathlessly in your clown car, smeared in your own outrageous makeup, and completely miss the point, in a way that seems totally and completely intentional bc, how could someone who has posted here this long, and read this entire thread,  then this post, get it so hilariously wrong?

Nowhere in that post did I say anything remotely close to where that response makes any sense. 
 I did all of this response- which isn’t kind or friendly and definitely fits within the parameters of “oh that surly, those guys are a bunch of assholes” without attacking you as a person, focusing only on your horrible take, and without name calling you. I didn’t tell you that I wished you were dead, or that you should be sent to prison for refusing to vote for Biden, or that you were a piece of shit or a cunt or the worst person in the world which is all stuff that I was told when I had the audacity to say I wasn’t voting. Imagine if I’d have voted for Trump. 
Yet, I can have an interaction anywhere else on this site, about anything else, and it goes fabulously!   As long as some ankle biters from the cloak room isn’t following me around posting bullshit! And those people are on ignore?  And you think the prescription is “if you don’t like it don’t post on this site?”  Bad take man, bad take. 

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16 minutes ago, bernorange said:

The tag was a response to behavioral/cultural issue that had long since manifested and was festering.  It's a milestone marker on our devolution, but it was a response to an existing problem, not a causal factor.  For all the feels we get when we tell ourselves that we're an educated community, that experiment proved we can't have nice things.  The savages won.  

P.s. if you read that last sentence and thought I was referring to a political team, you are part of the problem.

This is only half right. It was a response to the devolution as you said. But it really greased the path for the almost complete conservative exit from the board as the only comments bringing moderated out and leading to bans were from the right. 
that’s my take anyway. Maybe I’m wrong. 

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predictably, and without any sense of irony, many of you morons in this thread immediately started staking claim on which group owns the CR, and interpreting "no politics" as "their group dont want to post in the CR because they didnt want to hear our opinion"

 

no politics means we're not interested in your opinion , either conservative OR liberal.  news can be news without the need to editorialize.  the rest of the world dont care if you jerk off to nancy pelosi or betsy devos. 

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