EPL 2021-22

[shadow_operative 15932]

7 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Was the penalty for the shove on Son who was airborne?

as soon as he blew his whistles he pointed to his arm and indicated that it was for handball. they then watched the replay, saw there was no handball, and just said, "oh there was a foul." total bullshit. 

[MoJames 8254]

That pass looked uncatchable to me.

[mdmost 43050]

Yeah, you're asking for it with that stupid move. 

[Captain Ron 12921]

You should throw a straight red at that. That was a clear arm to the head.

[shadow_operative 15932]

Son is elbowing people in the face with no call (which i honestly don't mind in a game like this), the game is extremely physical with no whistles, and then all of a sudden every breath that an Arsenal player takes is a booking. what an absolute fucking sham.

[shadow_operative 15932]

Just now, Captain Ron said:

You should throw a straight red at that. That was a clear arm to the head.

i have to assume that you're referring to Son's blatant elbow to the face of an Arsenal player. surely that's what you mean.

[Buzzrock 14941]

What were spurs fans chanting just before that last free kick?

[Captain Ron 12921]

2-0 and a man up!

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

11 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Was the penalty for the shove on Son who was airborne?

Looks like the shove happened when he was on the ground. Then got clattered when falling. 

https://v.fodder.gg/v/yvawd2

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

And that's two.

[mdmost 43050]

This is about to get ugly. 

[sidis 9832]

58 minutes ago, sidis said:

dang, aresnal is +225 to win today.  that seems like decent odds for what i see as a 50/50 game.  son and spurs defense looked really good against liverpool last weekend but still see it as 50/50 given arsenal's form.  maybe i'm missing something but gonna jump on that.

Good call!

[shadow_operative 15932]

absolute sham. i'm not watching tottenham beat arsenal, i'm watching arsenal being blasted in the ass incompetent officiating. the game starts off like it's bulls vs pistons in the late 80's, and then out of nowhere the home team starts getting the softest/most bullshit-ass favorable calls left and right, and the game is completely changed. absolute fucking horse shit. ive watched this arsenal teams lose a lot of games that they straight up deserved to lose. this has not been one of them. infuriating. 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

This is about to get ugly. 

We call it entertainment.

[shadow_operative 15932]

play Son's elbow and Holding's shoulder side by side, and realize that that the softest bit of a shoulder lean got a player sent off, while a blatant, premeditated elbow to the face resulted in nothing. you cannot say that this game has been properly officiated. 

[Longhornfan1024 1707]

Two good calls to give the pk and the second yellow.  Arsenal going Spursy here.

[Buzzrock 14941]

[Buzzrock 14941]

[406W30th 1111]

I thought that penalty was soft but Holding absolutely deserved to get sent off.

 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

Just now, 406W30th said:

I thought that penalty was soft but Holding absolutely deserved to get sent off.

 

Yeah, the last replay they showed was horribad. Shoulder, then forearm across the face. Could have easily been a red.

[shadow_operative 15932]

18 minutes ago, Longhornfan1024 said:

Two good calls to give the pk and the second yellow.  Arsenal going Spursy here.

holding deserved a booking for that foul, that's true. the penalty is absolute horseshit. 

[MoJames 8254]

2 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

holding deserved a booking for that foul, that's true. the penalty is absolute horseshit. 

So good news, you are only down 2-0 with 10 men in that scenario.

[shadow_operative 15932]

kane shoving gabriel to the ground to set up that goal was 10x more contact than anything that cedric did for that "penalty", but ok. 

Edited May 12, 2022 by shadow_operative

[mdmost 43050]

Yeah but it's Harry Kane. 

[406W30th 1111]

My Arsenal friends are blowing up the group chat complaining about Harry Kane fouling Gabriel and I mean, I get it, it's a big game, but I literally laughed out loud when I read that.

But I read on this message board that it's Liverpool fans who complain incessantly about the refs.

 

[mr. littlejeans 184]

arsenal just needs to claim holding has "covid" and get this game postponed again.

[Captain Ron 12921]

3 minutes ago, 406W30th said:

My Arsenal friends are blowing up the group chat complaining about Harry Kane fouling Gabriel and I mean, I get it, it's a big game, but I literally laughed out loud when I read that.

But I read on this message board that it's Liverpool fans who complain incessantly about the refs.

 

[MoJames 8254]

8 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

kane shoving gabriel to the ground to set up that goal was 10x more contact than anything that cedric did for that "penalty", but ok. 

Ok so only down 1-0 with 10 men in this scenario.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

1 minute ago, MoJames said:

Ok so only down 1-0 with 10 men in this scenario.

Keep going and they'll be up 3-1 with Spurs down to 10 men.

[sidis 9832]

27 minutes ago, 406W30th said:

My Arsenal friends are blowing up the group chat complaining about Harry Kane fouling Gabriel and I mean, I get it, it's a big game, but I literally laughed out loud when I read that.

But I read on this message board that it's Liverpool fans who complain incessantly about the refs.

 

both things can be true but the latter is a known, universal truth.

[MoJames 8254]

Xhaka felt left out and needed a card.

[Firemans4Horn 18122]

Paul Tierney is a shitty, inconsistent ref. Who knew. 

[hobbes2702 13073]

It’s almost like the premier league is a terribly officiated league across board. Crazy that no one has pointed that out before and it’s just LFC fans that complain about them.

[Schulz2.0 29011]

[Captain Ron 12921]

Yeah, I gotta agree, very disappointing that we were cheated a good game by this ref.  All those shitty calls.

 

 

 

[mdmost 43050]

 

[MoJames 8254]

18 minutes ago, mdmost said:

 

[shadow_operative 15932]

Arteta: "If I say what I think I am suspended for 6 months."

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CdeSmcXoyPZ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

 

[MoJames 8254]

Arteta: "We should've only lost 0-1."

[Firemans4Horn 18122]

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

 

[ztejas 43537]

Maybe something like this but in Newcastle colors.

[Longhornfan1024 1707]

holding deserved a booking for that foul, that's true. the penalty is absolute horseshit. 

Nah. You can't go into a guy's back while he's in the air like that and get mad when a foul is called.

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[shadow_operative 15932]

1 hour ago, Longhornfan1024 said:

Nah. You can't go into a guy's back while he's in the air like that and get mad when a foul is called.

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uh, yeah you can. there isn't a single ball into the box from a corner or a close free kick where 10x more violent/intentional clashes happen with no call. tierney called a handball, the replay showed that call to be wrong, so they said, 'fuck it, we'll just call it a foul, because we can call a foul on literally every single ball into the box like that." 

it reminds me of this moment from the FA Cup final between Arsenal and Villa:

Koscielny gets his shirt pulled over his head hockey style on a corner with no call. ask a chelsea fan or an arsenal fan- Giroud routinely got straight manhandled on corners, and he wouldn't complain even a little bit because it's simply SOP to be able to just thrash attackers in the box. whatever contact made by Cedric today is never ever ever called a penalty, which is exactly why his "foul" wasn't even called until the VAR review took place.

what happened today was a referee making an incorrect call, only to be bailed out by his buddies working the VAR, because obviously. you've never heard Arteta say the things he said after the match today. this was a total screw job. the officials absolutely took over and decided what should have been an intensely thrilling game. fuck everything that happened today. total horseshit. 

Edited May 13, 2022 by shadow_operative

[Captain Ron 12921]

4 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

Arteta: "If I say what I think I am suspended for 6 months."

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CdeSmcXoyPZ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

 

 

[Captain Ron 12921]

1 hour ago, shadow_operative said:

uh, yeah you can. there isn't a single ball into the box from a corner or a close free kick where 10x more violent/intentional clashes happen with no call. tierney called a handball, the replay showed that call to be wrong, so they said, 'fuck it, we'll just call it a foul, because we can call a foul on literally every single ball into the box like that." 

it reminds me of this moment from the FA Cup final between Arsenal and Villa:

Koscielny gets his shirt pulled over his head hockey style on a corner with no call. ask a chelsea fan or an arsenal fan- Giroud routinely got straight manhandled on corners, and he wouldn't complain even a little bit because it's simply SOP to be able to just thrash attackers in the box. whatever contact made by Cedric today is never ever ever called a penalty, which is exactly why his "foul" wasn't even called until the VAR review took place.

what happened today was a referee making an incorrect call, only to be bailed out by his buddies working the VAR, because obviously. you've never heard Arteta say the things he said after the match today. this was a total screw job. the officials absolutely took over and decided what should have been an intensely thrilling game. fuck everything that happened today. total horseshit. 

A. That Arsenal-Villa game was 7 years ago. IIRC, Arsenal won, you might want to let It go.

B. It wasn't the incorrect call. In replay, he was clearly showing a forearm shove in the back, not a handball. He saw a push in the back and he called it. It might be soft, and let go a ton of the time, but it's also called a lot too. 

C. Take the L pussy.

 

Edited May 13, 2022 by Captain Ron

[shadow_operative 15932]

53 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

 

he's not wrong, and he's never spoken like this before. that officiating was particularly egregious considering the stakes. 

[mr. littlejeans 184]

54 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

he's not wrong, and he's never spoken like this before. that officiating was particularly egregious considering the stakes. 

“Arteta is a really good coach but he has just started this job and he has to be more focused on his team and not to keep complaining,” Conte said. “In six months here [at Spurs], I have listened to him complaining a lot. He needs to be more calm. But if he doesn’t want to accept my advice, I don’t care.“

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/12/antonio-conte-mikel-arteta-to-stop-complaining-after-holding-red-in-arsenal-defeat-tottenham

[shadow_operative 15932]

6 minutes ago, mr. littlejeans said:

“Arteta is a really good coach but he has just started this job and he has to be more focused on his team and not to keep complaining,” Conte said. “In six months here [at Spurs], I have listened to him complaining a lot. He needs to be more calm. But if he doesn’t want to accept my advice, I don’t care.“

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/12/antonio-conte-mikel-arteta-to-stop-complaining-after-holding-red-in-arsenal-defeat-tottenham

of course he's complained before. every manager has. and frankly anyone who follows the EPL knows that the running joke about Arsenal constantly getting shafted by officiating isn't some meme, it's a fact. anyway, while arteta has complained about poor officiating before, he's never refused to actually comment while saying, "if i say what i believe i will be suspended for six months." i don't know a single person who watched that game who thinks it wasn't horribly officiated. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

 

i watched Fabinho make about six or seven tactical fouls vs spurs before getting booked. you can't tell me that arsenal don't get officiated differently.

Edited May 13, 2022 by shadow_operative

[mr. littlejeans 184]

17 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

of course he's complained before. every manager has. and frankly anyone who follows the EPL knows that the running joke about Arsenal constantly getting shafted by officiating isn't some meme, it's a fact. anyway, while arteta has complained about poor officiating before, he's never refused to actually comment while saying, "if i say what i believe i will be suspended for six months." i don't know a single person who watched that game who thinks it wasn't horribly officiated. 

i watched the game. seemed pretty fair to me.

and holding didn’t get carded because he made a tactical foul. he got carded because he put his shoulder into son’s earhole while doing it.