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I saw a mayoral candidate get shot in broad daylight -- right in front of everyone while she was holding a microphone.

The zetas were unlike anything anyone could even ponder in the evil department. Fast forward to the CJNG. Good grief. Terrifying. It's a failed state and in ten years could likely be an official narco state without anymore denial. 

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2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

People are losing their shit because of a severed head?

In Jalisco there have been several decent sized towns where just about everyone has to grab their most important documents and nothing else while hauling ass without a plan beyond being anywhere but there. 

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We really ought to pay more attention to what's going on with politics and everything else happening just south of the river. Here's a pretty dry account of the election results:

Mexico President’s Grip on Congress Slips, Showing Limits of His Mandate
Early results of midterm elections suggested that Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s coalition would not obtain the supermajority needed to push through his ambitious agenda.

MEXICO CITY — Voters in Mexico tapped the brakes on President Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s ambitious plans to overhaul the country’s economy and society by narrowing his leftist coalition’s majority in Congress in midterm elections on Sunday.

The governing Morena party was expected to hold between 190 and 203 seats in Mexico’s lower house of Congress, a decline of up to 60 lawmakers, according to preliminary results released late on Sunday night by the country’s electoral board.

Although Morena, together with allies, will still be the dominant force in the 500-seat legislature, the coalition is expected to fall well short of the two-thirds majority required to push through the most sweeping aspects of Mr. López Obrador’s agenda.

“It’s a powerful reversal,” said Carlos Bravo Regidor, a political analyst and professor at the Center for Economic Research and Teaching in Mexico City.

Morena has also suffered heavy losses in Mexico’s capital, a megalopolis of nine million that had voted for leftist candidates since 1997, losing seats in the local assembly and key municipal offices. The defeats in Mexico City were an important blow to the government, symbolically as well as substantively, underlining the ebbing of support for Mr. López Obrador’s project among the country’s educated middle class, said Genaro Lozano, a political scientist at Mexico’s Iberoamerican University.

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While many aspects of Mr. López Obrador’s agenda are already underway, such as the construction of major infrastructure, the election results will make other changes more difficult. In particular, the results will hinder Mr. López Obrador’s flagship plan to return Mexico’s energy sector to state control.

Despite the president’s enduring popularity, especially among the poor, the results appear to show the limits of his popular mandate to change the nation under a bold program he has billed Mexico’s “Fourth Transformation.”

In a silver lining for the government, Mr. López Obrador’s coalition was expected to make major gains in the more than 20,000 local and regional offices also contested in Mexico’s largest-ever elections, deepening Morena’s national reach and cementing the ascendancy of a party that was founded less than 10 years ago.

The elections were marred by one of Mexico’s worst waves of political violence, underlining Mr. López Obrador’s challenge on confronting crime, which polls showed was one of the voters’ main concerns.

Thirty-four candidates were killed during the campaign and dozens of polling stations were shut down by armed assailants, or out of fear of retribution. A human head was thrown at the entrance of one polling station in the city of Tijuana, on the border with the United States, and body parts were found nearby. It was not immediately clear to authorities who did it, or why.

The Mexican peso rallied nearly one percent in early Monday trading, one of the best performances among emerging market currencies, suggesting the business sector was reacting positively to new checks on Mr. López Obrador’s power.

The main opposition parties performed better than expected at the polls, after deciding to put aside major ideological differences and confront Mr. López Obrador in a coalition. The pro-business National Action Party will be the biggest opposition force in Congress, with 106 to 117 seats. An opposition candidate also led the preliminary results in the governor’s race for the state of Nuevo León, Mexico’s economic powerhouse.

Mr. López Obrador has spent much of his three years in power attacking opposition parties and independent institutions such as Mexico’s electoral commission as wasteful or downright corrupt, widening the political schisms in Mexican society, said the political analysts. Now, in order to push the more radical changes he is pursuing, the president faces the choice of doubling down on his polarizing approach and trying to govern by presidential decrees or negotiating with the opposition, they added.

Governing by decree could prove challenging: To date, most of the president’s landmark laws are tied up in Mexico’s courts, which so far have resisted presidential pressure to allow the bills to take effect.

“We’re seeing a ruling party that’s been humbled, that will need to negotiate from now on,” said Mr. Lozano, the political scientist. “We are far from political hegemony.”

On Monday morning, during his regular news conference, Mr. López Obrador appeared to strike a more conciliatory tone.

“Unlike in previous times, the state did not intervene,” he said. “The people spoke — they decided who should represent them.”

 

 

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53 minutes ago, Chooky said:

I saw a mayoral candidate get shot in broad daylight -- right in front of everyone while she was holding a microphone.

The zetas were unlike anything anyone could even ponder in the evil department. Fast forward to the CJNG. Good grief. Terrifying. It's a failed state and in ten years could likely be an official narco state without anymore denial. 

The problem with calling Mexico a failed state is that implies it was stable at some point. But has that ever really been the case since independence? Maybe for about a quarter century or so post WW2, but otherwise it’s been one period of instability after another. “Things not going well in Mexico” could have been a thread at just about any time.

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4 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

The problem with calling Mexico a failed state is that implies it was stable at some point. But has that ever really been the case since independence? Maybe for about a quarter century or so post WW2, but otherwise it’s been one period of instability after another. “Things not going well in Mexico” could have been a thread at just about any time.

If you judge it by the standard of All of Mexico Must Be Doing Well At The Same Time, it's been pretty awful most of the time. But since it's big with lots of distinct areas, lots of times 9/10s of the country might be OK while a small part sucks, and sucks theatrically.

EG in the early 2000s people were scared to go to the border because they were doing border antics, but where I lived in Colima it was Mayberry. Recently Colima was listed as dangerous as Afghanistan. I suppose that is not good.

I agree that the era of Pedro Infante and TinTan movies was probably the best in the past 100 years.

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27 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

The problem with calling Mexico a failed state is that implies it was stable at some point. But has that ever really been the case since independence? Maybe for about a quarter century or so post WW2, but otherwise it’s been one period of instability after another. “Things not going well in Mexico” could have been a thread at just about any time.

I don't agree that "failed" implies former success. 

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1 hour ago, formermav43 said:

The problem with calling Mexico a failed state is that implies it was stable at some point. But has that ever really been the case since independence? Maybe for about a quarter century or so post WW2, but otherwise it’s been one period of instability after another. “Things not going well in Mexico” could have been a thread at just about any time.

I see your point.  It has never been peachy, but as far as cartel and sicario bullshit, the last two years seems to be on another level.  Even when the government seems slightly sincere about containing CJNG, the military can't handle them some of the time.  They're seemingly on somewhat even footing when it comes to weapons, tech and equipment.

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It would be pretty disrespectful if you were being a smartass and did a write in ballot for the guy who was just a head.  You knew he was only a head.  You saw the severed head down there before you voted.

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7 minutes ago, Chooky said:

It would be pretty disrespectful if you were being a smartass and did a write in ballot for the guy who was just a head.  You knew he was only a head.  You saw the severed head down there before you voted.

Counterpoint: I have voted in several races where a severed head would have been a preferable candidate.

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2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Counterpoint: I have voted in several races where a severed head would have been a preferable candidate.

Any Statewide race in Texas

54% Severed Head (R)

46% Veteran with purple heart that builds houses for the poor and drives old ladies to Sunday school (D)

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1 minute ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Any Statewide race in Texas

54% Severed Head (R)

46% Veteran with purple heart that builds houses for the poor and drives old ladies to Sunday school (D)

Well, yeah, because Severed Head tells it like it is, and sure as hell wouldn't be SOCIALIST!  Have you ever met a severed head that favored socialism?  Yeah, I didn't think so.  Checkmate, libtard.

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23 minutes ago, Chooky said:

It would be pretty disrespectful if you were being a smartass and did a write in ballot for the guy who was just a head.  You knew he was only a head.  You saw the severed head down there before you voted.

Head of State, imo.

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10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Well, yeah, because Severed Head tells it like it is, and sure as hell wouldn't be SOCIALIST!  Have you ever met a severed head that favored socialism?  Yeah, I didn't think so.  Checkmate, libtard.

Put a cowboy hat on severed head and the margin goes to 60-40

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37 minutes ago, Chooky said:

It would be pretty disrespectful if you were being a smartass and did a write in ballot for the guy who was just a head.  You knew he was only a head.  You saw the severed head down there before you voted.

Hey, don't badmouth the head.

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20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Well, yeah, because Severed Head tells it like it is, and sure as hell wouldn't be SOCIALIST!  Have you ever met a severed head that favored socialism?  Yeah, I didn't think so.  Checkmate, libtard.

Reporter. "Do you believe in a welfare state?"

Severed head. ....

Reporter. "The silence is deafening."

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41 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Counterpoint: I have voted in several races where a severed head would have been a preferable candidate.

32 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Well, yeah, because Severed Head tells it like it is, and sure as hell wouldn't be SOCIALIST!  Have you ever met a severed head that favored socialism?  Yeah, I didn't think so.  Checkmate, libtard.

 

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17 hours ago, bolverk said:

We really ought to pay more attention to what's going on with politics and everything else happening just south of the river. Here's a pretty dry account of the election results:

Mexico President’s Grip on Congress Slips, Showing Limits of His Mandate
Early results of midterm elections suggested that Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s coalition would not obtain the supermajority needed to push through his ambitious agenda.

MEXICO CITY — Voters in Mexico tapped the brakes on President Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s ambitious plans to overhaul the country’s economy and society by narrowing his leftist coalition’s majority in Congress in midterm elections on Sunday.

The governing Morena party was expected to hold between 190 and 203 seats in Mexico’s lower house of Congress, a decline of up to 60 lawmakers, according to preliminary results released late on Sunday night by the country’s electoral board.

Although Morena, together with allies, will still be the dominant force in the 500-seat legislature, the coalition is expected to fall well short of the two-thirds majority required to push through the most sweeping aspects of Mr. López Obrador’s agenda.

“It’s a powerful reversal,” said Carlos Bravo Regidor, a political analyst and professor at the Center for Economic Research and Teaching in Mexico City.

Morena has also suffered heavy losses in Mexico’s capital, a megalopolis of nine million that had voted for leftist candidates since 1997, losing seats in the local assembly and key municipal offices. The defeats in Mexico City were an important blow to the government, symbolically as well as substantively, underlining the ebbing of support for Mr. López Obrador’s project among the country’s educated middle class, said Genaro Lozano, a political scientist at Mexico’s Iberoamerican University.

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While many aspects of Mr. López Obrador’s agenda are already underway, such as the construction of major infrastructure, the election results will make other changes more difficult. In particular, the results will hinder Mr. López Obrador’s flagship plan to return Mexico’s energy sector to state control.

Despite the president’s enduring popularity, especially among the poor, the results appear to show the limits of his popular mandate to change the nation under a bold program he has billed Mexico’s “Fourth Transformation.”

In a silver lining for the government, Mr. López Obrador’s coalition was expected to make major gains in the more than 20,000 local and regional offices also contested in Mexico’s largest-ever elections, deepening Morena’s national reach and cementing the ascendancy of a party that was founded less than 10 years ago.

The elections were marred by one of Mexico’s worst waves of political violence, underlining Mr. López Obrador’s challenge on confronting crime, which polls showed was one of the voters’ main concerns.

Thirty-four candidates were killed during the campaign and dozens of polling stations were shut down by armed assailants, or out of fear of retribution. A human head was thrown at the entrance of one polling station in the city of Tijuana, on the border with the United States, and body parts were found nearby. It was not immediately clear to authorities who did it, or why.

The Mexican peso rallied nearly one percent in early Monday trading, one of the best performances among emerging market currencies, suggesting the business sector was reacting positively to new checks on Mr. López Obrador’s power.

The main opposition parties performed better than expected at the polls, after deciding to put aside major ideological differences and confront Mr. López Obrador in a coalition. The pro-business National Action Party will be the biggest opposition force in Congress, with 106 to 117 seats. An opposition candidate also led the preliminary results in the governor’s race for the state of Nuevo León, Mexico’s economic powerhouse.

Mr. López Obrador has spent much of his three years in power attacking opposition parties and independent institutions such as Mexico’s electoral commission as wasteful or downright corrupt, widening the political schisms in Mexican society, said the political analysts. Now, in order to push the more radical changes he is pursuing, the president faces the choice of doubling down on his polarizing approach and trying to govern by presidential decrees or negotiating with the opposition, they added.

Governing by decree could prove challenging: To date, most of the president’s landmark laws are tied up in Mexico’s courts, which so far have resisted presidential pressure to allow the bills to take effect.

“We’re seeing a ruling party that’s been humbled, that will need to negotiate from now on,” said Mr. Lozano, the political scientist. “We are far from political hegemony.”

On Monday morning, during his regular news conference, Mr. López Obrador appeared to strike a more conciliatory tone.

“Unlike in previous times, the state did not intervene,” he said. “The people spoke — they decided who should represent them.”

 

 

Morena lost some seats in the lower house of congress, but romped in the governor races in Mexico (10 of 15 races).  They only had 4 before (and none were up for re-election), so they now have almost half of the governor seats (14/32) + CDMX mayor (which is almost governor-like, similar to DC's mayor) 

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1 hour ago, fattyflattie said:

Sucks. I loved my time living in Mexico. 

 

Just now, Zepol87 said:

Same. Living in Monterrey a decade ago was amazing. 

fear not: mexico is still fucking awesome, despite its warts.*

 

* got into a car accident friday picking up my kids from school. was turning left into a parking lot and a 15 year old kid on a massive dirt bike tried passing me on the left going at least 50mph. flew probably 30 feet in the air and his head bounced off a parked car (no helmet of course). accident was my fault apparently for not looking behind me to see if someone was going to pass me going 50 in a school zone. had to pay a fine but fortunately wasn't sent to jail.**

 

** he fucked up my car and apparently i bought a policy that doesn't cover damages to my car.***

 

***pinche gringo

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14 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

got into a car accident friday picking up my kids from school. was turning left into a parking lot and a 15 year old kid on a massive dirt bike tried passing me on the left going at least 50mph. flew probably 30 feet in the air and his head bounced off a parked car

How did his head end up at a polling station in Tijuana?

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1 hour ago, fattyflattie said:

Sucks. I loved my time living in Mexico. 

San Carlos, Mx just north of Guaymus is definitely on my radar as a retirement spot.  And it had been pretty much unscathed by the violence of other areas.  But apparently it is creeping in around there as well.

This is sold, but something like this on the water and I am good to go.

https://encantadorealty.com/property/328-creston/

 

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Mexican cops are really easy to work with at a crash site so long as nobody has to go to the hospital. My one experience, they encouraged me and the other guy to haggle it out on the spot, or else they would have to impound both our vehicles. It was good motivation and we got it done.

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3 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

San Carlos, Mx just north of Guaymus is definitely on my radar as a retirement spot.  And it had been pretty much unscathed by the violence of other areas.  But apparently it is creeping in around there as well.

This is sold, but something like this on the water and I am good to go.

https://encantadorealty.com/property/328-creston/

 

You can either hire a couple of security guys to watch that for you, or else not hire them, and have them come in through the window.

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36 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

San Carlos, Mx just north of Guaymus is definitely on my radar as a retirement spot.  And it had been pretty much unscathed by the violence of other areas.  But apparently it is creeping in around there as well.

This is sold, but something like this on the water and I am good to go.

https://encantadorealty.com/property/328-creston/

 

I was looking at a nice ranch down there recently that was basically 33% of the cost of what it would be 25 miles north.  Just got me thinking a bit.   I’d be 300# if I still lived there (and if still alive).  We didn’t exactly hang out at the smartest places now that I think about it. 

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