Southwest or every other airline in the history of the world?

[gernblansten 3254]

19 minutes ago, RPM said:

But about the handy?

If the pilot asks if you've ever been in a Turkish Prison, you can probably give him one.

[RPM 26566]

6 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

If the pilot asks if you've ever been in a Turkish Prison, you can probably give him one.

This is the kind of inside information I'm looking for.

I'm assuming there's a warm towel involved at some point?

Edited February 15, 2022 by RPM

[conVINCEd 21477]

35 minutes ago, RPM said:

Flying round trip to Vegas on SW in Business Class for the first time. Tell this surly poor how to maximize. Is it wrong to ask the stew for a handy or is that extra?

 

whatever floats your boat.

[Your Mom 4957]

You’re not flying in business class. You bought a ticket with “business select”. Two very different things. You’ll sit with the rest of the unwashed masses and you’ll like it. Only difference is you’ll board a little bit before most of them.  Your only other perk will be a free drink. Really the best you can hope for is a seat on the right side of the aircraft for a nice view of the Grand Canyon on the way in. Or the left side if you prefer seeing Hoover Dam. 

Edited February 16, 2022 by Your Mom

[Chopper 17429]

Biz select allows you to use whatever SWA calls their shorter security line too. Even if you don't have TSA pre. Depending on the airport.

[RPM 26566]

So there's no Admiral's Club with complimentary snacks to relax pre-boarding?

[gmr548 16681]

So there's no Admiral's Club with complimentary snacks to relax pre-boarding?

lol

[Chewbacca 7827]

1 hour ago, Your Mom said:

You’re not flying in business class. You bought a ticket with “business select”. Two very different things. You’ll sit with the rest of the unwashed masses and you’ll like it. Only difference is you’ll board a little bit before most of them.  Your only other perk will be a free drink, and if you’re flying before March 20 you won’t get that.  Really the best part you can hope for is a seat on the right side of the aircraft for a nice view of the Grand Canyon on the way in. Or the left side if you prefer seeing Hoover Dam. 

And the way SW lets people pre-board, even if you're A1, there will be 10-30 people who get on the plane before you do.

[The Ace of Aces 5366]

7 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

And the way SW lets people pre-board, even if you're A1, there will be 10-30 people who get on the plane before you do.

And depending on where the inbound flight is coming from - there could be 50 people on the plane already. 

[closetohumping 17784]

50 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

And depending on where the inbound flight is coming from - there could be 50 people on the plane already. 

People with snot nosed kids, I see you family of four trying to peddle your 14 and 16 year olds as toddlers, trying to sneak in before the A group.

[TTU13 108]

Sat first class last week on AA. Well worth the upgrade price. FA kept the woodford reserve flowing and no fucks given about wearing a mask.

Especially worth it since I was running late and didn’t have time to hit up the Centurion lounge ahead of time per usual.

[Redneck Mutha 8165]

18 hours ago, Your Mom said:

You’re not flying in business class. You bought a ticket with “business select”. Two very different things. You’ll sit with the rest of the unwashed masses and you’ll like it. Only difference is you’ll board a little bit before most of them.  Your only other perk will be a free drink. Really the best you can hope for is a seat on the right side of the aircraft for a nice view of the Grand Canyon on the way in. Or the left side if you prefer seeing Hoover Dam. 

Enjoy your dam flight.

[midtown 3350]

8 hours ago, TTU13 said:

Especially worth it since I was running late and didn’t have time to hit up the Centurion lounge ahead of time per usual.

I call bullshit.   Centurion lounges are almost unusable in the past year.  Every time I try to go It's at least a 45-1hr wait time.   

[Ag with kids 581]

3 minutes ago, midtown said:

I call bullshit.   Centurion lounges are almost unusable in the past year.  Every time I try to go It's at least a 45-1hr wait time.   

I've been numerous times over the past year...never had a wait.  Sometimes had a bit of an issue finding an open seat, but that's because I want to use my laptop, so I kind of want a table.

This is at DFW and MIA...

[TXSooner518 2455]

Enjoy your dam flight.

Is this a god dam? You know, god dam?

[TTU13 108]

I call bullshit.   Centurion lounges are almost unusable in the past year.  Every time I try to go It's at least a 45-1hr wait time.   

Legit never had an issue. Worst experience was in PHX, it was a 5 min wait to get in.

DFW has the best centurion experience. Servers gladly pour doubles and let you order multiple drinks instead of one drink at a time.

[TTU13 108]

To clarify - what made it “bad” was the morons who dont pre check in and then argue and cause the line to back up.

I’ve flown 20ish times the last 6 months.

[midtown 3350]

9 hours ago, TTU13 said:

Legit never had an issue. Worst experience was in PHX, it was a 5 min wait to get in.

DFW has the best centurion experience. Servers gladly pour doubles and let you order multiple drinks instead of one drink at a time.

I guess I'm just unlucky. I've been in almost every centurion lounge in the US and only had problems the last year.

Last March the lounge in Houston closed at 5pm. My flight landed at 6.  Denied.

Last May in Dallas.  1 hour wait.

Last summer in Seattle with my kids.  1.5 hour wait.

 

FYI here is a post from an amex group I follow on Fb from this morning.

Edited February 17, 2022 by midtown

[closetohumping 17784]

19 minutes ago, midtown said:

I guess I'm just unlucky. I've been in almost every centurion lounge in the US and only had problems the last year.

Last March the lounge in Houston closed at 5pm. My flight landed at 6.  Denied.

Last May in Dallas.  1 hour wait.

Last summer in Seattle with my kids.  1.5 hour wait.

 

FYI here is a post from an amex group I follow on Fb from this morning.

That looks awful.  Maybe there's a special line for Tech grads?  Or maybe he works there?

[Ag with kids 581]

1 hour ago, midtown said:

I guess I'm just unlucky. I've been in almost every centurion lounge in the US and only had problems the last year.

Last March the lounge in Houston closed at 5pm. My flight landed at 6.  Denied.

Last May in Dallas.  1 hour wait.

Last summer in Seattle with my kids.  1.5 hour wait.

 

FYI here is a post from an amex group I follow on Fb from this morning.

That's why I'm glad I've got Admiral's Club access too...

I've never seen it that busy, though.  That's ridiculous.  Probably the reason they're restricting guests starting next year.

[Guest Lobo]

I'm not surly 1%, but if I waited an hour in a line to get into a lounge...that would just suggest to me that I showed up to the airport way too early.  I've never understood people's fascinations with getting to the airport early (unless traveling with small children).  If you are connecting and have hours to kill and wait in line, I get it.  But most us live in major urban areas with dozens, if not hundreds of non-stop/direct flights and no need to kill hours on end in the terminal.  If you check out from your hotel and have hours to kill before your flight, don't burn it in the airport lounge.  Leave your bag at the hotel and go for a walk, see a museum, visit a park, a local watering hole, anything but the fucking terminal.  It is the most bizarre status achievement I've ever know and I used to travel a shit-ton for work.  I arrive 45-60 minutes to the front door.  If I have eligibility to use a lounge and there's no wait, I'll run in there for 2 drinks...if not I'll have two at the bar nearest my gate and that's that.  Again, if you're connecting...what's the fucking point?  To do work or make calls...do that at the hotel lobby where it's cleaner and quieter.  /rant

Having said that, what the fuck is going on with passengers freaking the fuck out at altitude lately?  Every week, it's some "almost crashed the plane" incident with some unruly cunt on a U.S. airline.  

Edited February 17, 2022 by Lobo

[conVINCEd 21477]

13 minutes ago, Lobo said:

I'm not airline 1%, but if I waited an hour in a line to get into a lounge...that would just suggest to me that I showed up to the airport way too early.  I've never understood people's fascinations with getting to the airport early (unless traveling with small children).  If you are connecting and have hours to kill and wait in line, I get it.  But most us live in major urban areas with dozens, if not hundreds of non-stop/direct flights and no need to kill hours on end in the terminal.  If you check out from your hotel and have hours to kill before your flight, don't burn it in the airport lounge.  Leave your bag at the hotel and go for a walk, see a museum, visit a park, a local watering hole, anything but the fucking terminal.  It is the most bizarre status achievement I've ever know and I used to travel a shit-ton for work.  I arrive 45-60 minutes to the front door.  If I have eligibility to use a lounge and there's no wait, I'll run in there for 2 drinks...if not I'll have two at the bar nearest my gate and that's that.  Again, if you're connecting...what's the fucking point?  To do work or make calls...do that at the hotel lobby where it's cleaner and quieter.  /rant

Having said that, what the fuck is going on with passengers freaking the fuck out at altitude lately?  Every week, it's some "almost crashed the plane" incident with some unruly cunt on a U.S. airline.  

Apparently traveling 500 mph in a metal tube 35k feet  off the ground is perfectly fine with everyone, but when you ask them to put a small piece of fabric over their mouth and nose the shit hits the fan.  That and we all hate each other.

[Guest Lobo]

Yeah, every fucking video I click on lately looks the passenger brawl that ensues in "Airplane!" 

the Constitution clearly speaks to individual liberties whilst flying between the 50 states, even if over international waters.  That's why I always fly with a copy of the document, along with 2 xanax and 7 cocktails coursing through my veins.  

[Ag with kids 581]

19 minutes ago, Lobo said:

I'm not surly 1%, but if I waited an hour in a line to get into a lounge...that would just suggest to me that I showed up to the airport way too early.  I've never understood people's fascinations with getting to the airport early (unless traveling with small children).  If you are connecting and have hours to kill and wait in line, I get it.  But most us live in major urban areas with dozens, if not hundreds of non-stop/direct flights and no need to kill hours on end in the terminal.  If you check out from your hotel and have hours to kill before your flight, don't burn it in the airport lounge.  Leave your bag at the hotel and go for a walk, see a museum, visit a park, a local watering hole, anything but the fucking terminal.  It is the most bizarre status achievement I've ever know and I used to travel a shit-ton for work.  I arrive 45-60 minutes to the front door.  If I have eligibility to use a lounge and there's no wait, I'll run in there for 2 drinks...if not I'll have two at the bar nearest my gate and that's that.  Again, if you're connecting...what's the fucking point?  To do work or make calls...do that at the hotel lobby where it's cleaner and quieter.  /rant

Having said that, what the fuck is going on with passengers freaking the fuck out at altitude lately?  Every week, it's some "almost crashed the plane" incident with some unruly cunt on a U.S. airline.  

If you're traveling international AND checking a bag, AA requires you to have that bag checked no less than 1 hr before flight.  I've almost missed a flight to Paris (luckily it was delayed) because the line to check bags was crazy and it took 30 min before I could get the bag checked in.  I got there 1 hr 15 min before my flight.

Now, I add a cushion just in case...and that means lounge time.  And why not?  Free premium liquor or go to a non-airport bar and PAY?

[Guest Lobo]

Yeah, if you're going international, certainly.  or with kids, as I stated.  But 80% of travel for the folks on here is domestic, sans kids.  For me, anyway, means don't leave home/office before I need to and upon return, don't ride to the airport with 4 hours to kill.  Yes, the free booze is nice.  But I'd rather hang back at home or in the city I'm leaving and spend my time exploring.  I know what airport lounges look like, I do not know what the exhibit at the BMFA looks like this year.  But I get it, it's travel.  To each their own, but I keep hearing horror stories (in addition to shitty passengers up in the sky) about folks having to wait extended periods of time to enter airport lounges.  Just a big head scratcher to me.  It's not studio 54.  I'm not waiting in one line (TSA) to wait in another line (premium lounge) to wait in another line (to board the plane). 

It's just me, I hate airports because they remind me that I've gotta get on an airplane and I fucking hate flying.  I'm not afraid of crashing or terrorists.  I'm afraid I'll have a heart attack during bad turbulence.  And now I also gotta worry about some Oakley-wearing cocksucker fucking with the crew or plane itself.  I

[Gil Bang 26178]

CHEEKTOWAGA, N.Y. (WKBW) — A JetBlue pilot was removed from the cockpit of a plane in Buffalo, New York on suspicion he was intoxicated, authorities said.

The pilot has been identified as 52-year-old James Clifton of Orlando, Florida.

According to the Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority (NFTA), Clifton was passing through security Wednesday when a TSA officer noticed the pilot may be impaired.

NFTA police were notified and Clifton was removed from the cockpit. The pilot was reportedly given a breathalyzer test and registered a blood alcohol content (BAC) of 0.17. According to the FAA, pilots should not be flying with a BAC over .04.

Clifton was taken into custody but released to JetBlue security. He could still face federal charges.

The flight, JetBlue 2465, was delayed four hours and 10 minutes according to data from FlightAware.

 

[Nueces River Rat 5759]

33 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

CHEEKTOWAGA, N.Y. (WKBW) — A JetBlue pilot was removed from the cockpit of a plane in Buffalo, New York on suspicion he was intoxicated, authorities said.

The pilot has been identified as 52-year-old James Clifton of Orlando, Florida.

According to the Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority (NFTA), Clifton was passing through security Wednesday when a TSA officer noticed the pilot may be impaired.

NFTA police were notified and Clifton was removed from the cockpit. The pilot was reportedly given a breathalyzer test and registered a blood alcohol content (BAC) of 0.17. According to the FAA, pilots should not be flying with a BAC over .04.

Clifton was taken into custody but released to JetBlue security. He could still face federal charges.

The flight, JetBlue 2465, was delayed four hours and 10 minutes according to data from FlightAware.

 

Dang.....  Federal Charges????   

[closetohumping 17784]

2 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

Dang.....  Federal Charges????   

I have no problems with that

[TXSooner518 2455]

He should also personally pay each passenger stuck on the plane for 4 hours due to him showing up to fly wasted $500. 

[Gil Bang 26178]

I mean...it's one thing to get totally hammered on a layover.  Mofo was in Buffalo afterall. 

But, to report like that?  Didn't any of the crew on the van notice that he was lit?   

OK, so I got really, really drunk.  I'm still drunk.  Van is coming to pick us up in an hour.  Maybe, just maybe, you call in sick and tell them that you've got the shits?   Instead of shitting away a very lucrative career? 

[Sam Lin 3591]

Pilots showing up drunk is not as uncommon as you'd like.

[DaysOff 8157]

I mean...it's one thing to get totally hammered on a layover.  Mofo was in Buffalo afterall. 
But, to report like that?  Didn't any of the crew on the van notice that he was lit?   
OK, so I got really, really drunk.  I'm still drunk.  Van is coming to pick us up in an hour.  Maybe, just maybe, you call in sick and tell them that you've got the shits?   Instead of shitting away a very lucrative career? 

He's a professional. Those types could blow a .24 and you wouldn't know it.

[closetohumping 17784]

2 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

He's a professional. Those types could blow a .24 and you wouldn't know it.

Is that a recent avatar?

[CooterBrown 18273]

A buddy in the early 90s used to joke that his uncle wasn’t allowed to drive a car due to DWIs but he could still pilot for SWA.

[royiv 9706]

2 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

I mean...it's one thing to get totally hammered on a layover.  Mofo was in Buffalo afterall. 

But, to report like that?  Didn't any of the crew on the van notice that he was lit?   

OK, so I got really, really drunk.  I'm still drunk.  Van is coming to pick us up in an hour.  Maybe, just maybe, you call in sick and tell them that you've got the shits?   Instead of shitting away a very lucrative career? 

Very lucrative career? He's a pilot for fucking JetBlue. 

[Gil Bang 26178]

39 minutes ago, royiv said:

Very lucrative career? He's a pilot for fucking JetBlue. 

you're a fucking moron.

 

he typical JetBlue Captain salary is $272,853 per year. Captain salaries at JetBlue can range from $194,218 - $572,809 per year. This estimate is based upon 8 JetBlue Captain salary report(s) provided by employees or estimated based upon statistical methods. When factoring in bonuses and additional compensation, a Captain at JetBlue can expect to make an average total pay of $284,807 per year.

[royiv 9706]

43 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

you're a fucking moron.

 

he typical JetBlue Captain salary is $272,853 per year. Captain salaries at JetBlue can range from $194,218 - $572,809 per year. This estimate is based upon 8 JetBlue Captain salary report(s) provided by employees or estimated based upon statistical methods. When factoring in bonuses and additional compensation, a Captain at JetBlue can expect to make an average total pay of $284,807 per year.

Or we have very different ideas of what is very lucrative. Fucking moron.

[Gil Bang 26178]

OK Rocko, post your pay stub.  

 

The average salary in the US is $47k and change.   So, 4X average for the minimum salary is "lucrative" for anybody that isn't a complete moron with his finger up his own asshole.  Which, of course, excludes you. 

Edited March 3, 2022 by Gil Bang

[royiv 9706]

15 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

OK Rocko, post your pay stub.  

 

The average salary in the US is $47k and change.   So, 4X average for the minimum salary is "lucrative" for anybody that isn't a complete moron with his finger up his own asshole.  Which, of course, excludes you. 

Dude, calm the fuck down. You're awfully triggered by a smart-ass comment. I guess selling real astute in Southern California isn't so lucrative these days.

[Sam Lin 3591]

Real astute observation.

[Chewbacca 7827]

Dude, calm the fuck down. You're awfully triggered by a smart-ass comment. I guess selling real astute in Southern California isn't so lucrative these days.

Just admit you were wrong instead of doubling down on stupid.

[royiv 9706]

12 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

13 hours ago, royiv said:

Dude, calm the fuck down. You're awfully triggered by a smart-ass comment. I guess selling real astute in Southern California isn't so lucrative these days.

Just admit you were wrong instead of doubling down on stupid.

Gil’s numbers are wrong. Ain’t no JetBlue captain making $500k a year unless they’re flying transcon red eyes every day of the month. JetBlue captains top out at $275/hr. Guarantee is 70 hours per month so that translates to $19,250 monthly. So right around $240k annually. Definitely a good living, but not what many folks would consider VERY lucrative.
 

That said, I was making a smart-ass comment about JetBlue since, you know, it’s a shitty airline and Gil got triggered for some reason. 

[closetohumping 17784]

15 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

you're a fucking moron.

 

he typical JetBlue Captain salary is $272,853 per year. Captain salaries at JetBlue can range from $194,218 - $572,809 per year. This estimate is based upon 8 JetBlue Captain salary report(s) provided by employees or estimated based upon statistical methods. When factoring in bonuses and additional compensation, a Captain at JetBlue can expect to make an average total pay of $284,807 per year.

@GreenspointTexas

[Chewbacca 7827]

51 minutes ago, royiv said:

Gil’s numbers are wrong. Ain’t no JetBlue captain making $500k a year unless they’re flying transcon red eyes every day of the month. JetBlue captains top out at $275/hr. Guarantee is 70 hours per month so that translates to $19,250 monthly. So right around $240k annually. Definitely a good living, but not what many folks would consider VERY lucrative.
 

That said, I was making a smart-ass comment about JetBlue since, you know, it’s a shitty airline and Gil got triggered for some reason. 

$250k per year for only working 10 days a month would be considered lucrative in most circles.  Not Surly 1%, but not flying rubber dogshit out of Hong Kong, either.

[Your Mom 4957]

8 hours ago, royiv said:

Gil’s numbers are wrong. Ain’t no JetBlue captain making $500k a year unless they’re flying transcon red eyes every day of the month. JetBlue captains top out at $275/hr. Guarantee is 70 hours per month so that translates to $19,250 monthly. So right around $240k annually. Definitely a good living, but not what many folks would consider VERY lucrative.
 

That said, I was making a smart-ass comment about JetBlue since, you know, it’s a shitty airline and Gil got triggered for some reason. 

Edited for too much Rocko. 

Edited March 4, 2022 by Your Mom

[After irth 1245]

Pilot paycheck talk not going away. 

[Nueces River Rat 5759]

On 3/2/2022 at 5:17 PM, closetohumping said:

I have no problems with that

I don’t either really. I was thinking more since the FFA was involved, it would be handled more like a civil vs criminal action.  

[Gil Bang 26178]

2 hours ago, Nueces River Rat said:

I don’t either really. I was thinking more since the FFA was involved, it would be handled more like a civil vs criminal action.  

this didn't occur on the A&M campus.  It was at an airport. 

[Nueces River Rat 5759]

1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

this didn't occur on the A&M campus.  It was at an airport. 

 

F.A.A Federal Aviation Administration 

Fricken IPad 

[Moby Ric 2058]

On 2/15/2022 at 1:52 PM, RPM said:

So there's no Admiral's Club with complimentary snacks to relax pre-boarding?

I got a chuckle thinking about what a SWA club would look like.  I m picturing the soda and fatty snack aisle at walmart.